Mad Dog questions Dustin Johnson, Phil Mickelson & others for leaving PGA Tour for LIV Golf Series

[@jakeallen476]

Dustin Johnson being top 3 or 4 all time is an insane take by itself.

[@jeffreyval9665]

Hes not even top 25 of all time and even that's being generous.

[@braxtonandrews4047]

He even tried to whisper it lol

[@JK-br1mu]

He meant 3rd or 4th best golfer in the world, 15th best all time. Which is still a stretch I think.

[@dmoneyas24]

@@JK-br1mu he meant what he said and what he said was BS lol

[@gregorycampbell9386]

He clearly doesn't know golf or he thinks the majority of the people watching this don't know golf, either way it's negligent reporting that's become commonplace with espn anchors.

[@bobbygreene7748]

For one of the first times ever, I'm with Stephen A. The PGA is trying to stand on some moral high ground when they're really doing nothing more than trying to monopolize professional golf.

[@blackout07blue]

Foh. Anyone cheering LIV would be cheering golf leagues paid for by Hitler or Putin too. Disgusting.

[@prescottmotley5225]

Just because they are doing it for the wrong reason does not mean the cause is wrong. What ever happen to never forget 911 but I guess all you non patriotic Americans put money over American values.

[@MoMoMyPup10]

Let's say, you're a good young baseball prospect who wants to one day hopefully make a living playing the game you love, because what's the alternative -- Wall St. or laying brick? You're just hoping to be good enough to make it playing. Now, MLB drafts you and _here's your opportunity_ -- which one you going to take -- Wall St. or MLB? These professional _leagues_ they offer you a place to make _millions_ and play the game you love at the same time. They put up the money, they generate the income, and you get the big check at the end of the week. Yeah, they make millions more than you but what's a zero or two between fellow millionaires? Now you're going to sabotage this league after the amazing opportunity they provided for you and your family to enjoy the sweet life (that may've not been so easy laying bricks) and retire a wealthy and healthy man? For a monopoly, that's quite the rich deal they offer you if you can hack it. BTW, there's also a European Tour, and an Asian Tour, if you think you're 'stuck' playing here.

[@bobbygreene7748]

@@MoMoMyPup10 the difference is, in baseball you get a check each week whether you bat .400 or strike out. In basketball, you get your game check whether you score 30, or score 4 pts. League minimum is $900k/year. So, you get that even if you're the last guy on the bench and never play. Football and soccer, same thing. In the PGA, you have to win or place high to make millions. You have to make a cut every weekend just to get a paycheck. You also have to be a top player to get the lucrative sponsorship deals. These are professional athletes who have sacrificed years and put in an unimaginable amount of work to become a pro golfer. They deserve some kind of guaranteed money. I can't get mad at players for seeing guaranteed money with a commitment to only have to play 8 tournaments a year, and taking it. For the players with exemptions, they still get to play majors. It's a win for the players, and a win for the PGA tour. More of the world will get to see these golfers, and the game will grow.

[@tonychen1860]

@@MoMoMyPup10 the league doesn’t make the players, it’s the players that make the league. 10 times out of 10, I will choose a 100m/5y guaranteed contract over 20m one year, 5m the next, etc. But by your argument, LIV allows players to play the game they love while making millions? Why is the PGA Tour on a pedestal? If LIV makes it seem like the PGA is underpaying their players then maybe they need to rework their business model to accommodate the top players. Btw an extra zero is a multiple of 10, so yeah it’s a fat difference. 10 generations of wealth or 1? You pick.

[@FatMaverick]

Besides the opening in England, not a single event is played in Europe. That’s why he’s not called Map Dog.

[@angel-po8wo]

gulf sucks anyway

[@samyarlagadda9981]

Map dog😭😭😭

[@jacoburanga218]

And he said Sergio Garica is a great player who’s on the pga tour😭😂 Sergio went to LIV😂

[@docentofkathu]

1 out of 8 events are in Europe. 5 out of 8 in the US. The lack of knowledge of the subject he is supposedly debating on, clearly means he shouldn’t be debating?! Mad Dogs - usually loud and nonsensical.

[@blackout07blue]

Anyone cheering LIV would be cheering golf leagues & players paid for by Hitler or Putin too. Disgusting…

[@Paulafan5]

I'm baffled as to why people on tv are so angry that golfers are "daring" to leave the PGA tour. PGA doesn't pay anyone's salaries; the players EARN their paychecks with performance. And if they want to play somewhere else, that's their choice.

[@RoughOnStuff]

Arnold Palmer won 62 titles and made less than two million dollars. Justin Thomas made seven hundred thousand dollars more for winning the PGA championship a couple weeks ago. That’s the tours doing, not the golfers. And this group of has bins is cashing in on their generations of work for blood money. It’s gross and everyone has a right to be deeply offended at the betrayal.

[@jeffreyval9665]

They should be banned from ever playing in a pga event ever again. Most of these guys are already set for life anyway. Just a bunch of guys that can't beat the best players in the world anymore.

[@madD8845]

The players are independent contractors. The PGA tour pays no one. If you are on the tour you have to earn everything you get. Question…. Name a professional league where the rookies have to come up with $200k to participate in the season. The PGA’s policies has hindered the ability for poor and middle class people to join the league because of the cost which has been a huge barrier to entry. People thought that because of Tiger you would see more black and brown people on the tour but the opposite has happened. We had more black golfers on tour in the 70’s and 80’s than we have right now. The PGA is a joke of a league and organization and this league is exposing them for what they really are. I bet most of y’all didn’t know that the PGA tour had a Caucasian only clause up until 1961 and then after they removed the clause they put it on the golf courses to police, who still wouldn’t let blacks play.

[@jeffreyval9665]

@@madD8845 don't make this a racial thing. Most blacks just aren't that good to compete on the tour. Of your good enough believe me your sponsors will get you thru until you start winning money and if u can't win money then u weren't good enough in the first place.

[@williamgray9692]

@@jeffreyval9665 sounds like your trying to cope

[@mleonard1223]

A wise man once said, "The biggest problem with media is that people tend to talk about something in an educated manner when they know close to nothing about it"..

[@antoniosaxon8605]

ZZZZZZZZZ

[@brandonbeil6736]

Was that Sir Skip Bayless?

[@blackout07blue]

Anyone cheering LIV would be cheering golf leagues paid for by Hitler or Putin too. Disgusting..

[@mleonard1223]

@@brandonbeil6736 Skip is only wise about Lebron and TB12 stuff...lol

[@benedquistbaritone]

“He’s gonna go beat charl schwartzel?”… Well this aged like milk

[@LunchBox68]

I absolutely love when people especially athletes break tradition. Evolution & progression is more important than tradition.

[@angel-po8wo]

gulf sucks anyway

[@Thechickinaaronscar]

Yea but Saudi literally kills journalist .

[@Bluecollarworker01]

Well said. I love it. Let the competition begin! More competition=better product for consumers

[@PGO_Gaming]

@@TheBrindleBoxer It's not a huge part of sports for casuals. They don't care. That is why they are casuals. They shouldn't even have a forum to give an opinion. You got guys that have never watched one drive off of a tee on TV weighing in. Absolute nonsense.

[@LunchBox68]

@@TheBrindleBoxer yes it is but sticking to tradition limits future progression & current development.

[@Bonelesswatrmelon1]

Why does espn have guys who don’t know anything about the sport their supposed to talk about talking about other sports they clearly have no clue about

[@golfingdad3321]

Have the PGA tournaments become great because of the players who played them, or are the players great because the played and won at those courses? I think it's the former rather than the latter. Things change, evolve or stagnate.

[@jensgronning4436]

It’s a devolution not an evolution you dolt. I hope your wife’s boyfriend is a role model for your kids.

[@blackout07blue]

Anyone cheering LIV would be cheering golf leagues paid for by Hitler or Putin too. Disgusting…

[@MoMoMyPup10]

It's the latter, not even close. You can't have the former without the latter.

[@golfingdad3321]

Of course you can. Great players are great on any course. The tournaments are what they are because of the players. The PGA's true value is the players, not the tournaments - it needs to treat them better.

[@billyoliveira910]

Dustin Johnson is going to have more time to be his family. They also don't have to play 4 rounds any longer. Having said that, they are going to well paid.

[@thehop639]

yea because he couldn't pick and choose tournaments with a 100 million already in the bank could he........

[@ACT1O1]

@@thehop639 someitmes you gotta leave Amazon do your own thing.

[@thehop639]

@@ACT1O1 agree but not jumping ship from a place that has made you to a corrupt pile of nonsense funded by blood money!

[@zbabyg6998]

@@thehop639 tell every billionaire in the world that they should donate everything they have over 100m and let me know how that goes. Everybody always wants more than they have.

[@ACT1O1]

@@thehop639 this is part of life. People get rich on your hard work.

[@cameronschmit6472]

The quicker they have to lean on stuff like “tradition” and “prestige” the worse argument they have. The issue for me, is the ultimatum the PGA is leveling. There’s no reason they can’t play in both leagues. The PGA is harpooning themselves

[@jcx5659]

I expect the PGA has every right in the world to set their own rules.

[@hsld8930]

What’s the movie quote? Only siths deal in ultimatums.

[@heynowls3058]

Wrong. Ban them. Shame them. Tradition ha! Taking murderers $$$ is more important. Tiger and Nicklaus knew better. Good for them

[@cameronschmit6472]

@@heynowls3058 there isn’t any reason they can’t do both.

[@tonychen1860]

@@cameronschmit6472

[@marksias6764]

The PGA is threatening it's own players. No wounder players are leaving. The LIV gives players choice. The PGA takes choice away from players.

[@MoMoMyPup10]

Most ignorant comment on here. Congrats!

[@rickcastellon9090]

Take your blood money. And learn how to SPELL WONDER.........

[@blikketty77]

Golfers only care about money? Next thing you gonna tell me water is wet!

[@DoronBond]

🤣 no not wet but moist 🤣

[@Thechickinaaronscar]

Blood money .

[@RealYoutube33]

ESPN upset that they will be losing money.

[@madD8845]

Professional athletes care about money. Most of us who are professionals in our field are always looking the next best opportunity that’s going to pay us more.

[@DoronBond]

@@Thechickinaaronscar and Americas no different? …🤨🤔

[@keithtobin4786]

Steven A very well said!!!

[@salfont]

Stephen A is right on. Do the players want the cash? Of course they do. Should they be held up to a higher standard than our own government who continues to do business with the Saudi's? Of course not. I love the game of golf. What I hope happens is the PGA realizes they need these players as much the players need the tour and the real changes Phil spoke about can happen because of it.

[@NGMountains]

If I'm not proven wrong later, I believe the PGA is learning a valuable lesson that's long overdue. Most of these golfers have pretty substantial monetary lives without golf. The name of the game is "making money" for the golfers and the PGA. These talking heads are all liars if they insist anything other.

[@MoMoMyPup10]

My friend, the PGA has been making such changes ever since Tiger entered the arena. This isn't new, it's just the latest of ways the Tour is improving. And in the end, it doesn't justify the means. Golf has 3 of the top 4 wealthiest athletes of all time, and Phil is _8th_

[@SonofAGunFrom410]

Why shouldn't we hold them to a high standard?

[@coophandluke3697]

We sell weapons to the Saudis for 1 reason, to keep Iran in check!!

[@vince11harris]

@@SonofAGunFrom410 for what reason when our government is working rn to get oil from them

[@hottakes2633]

Phil is 51 and already has a great legacy as a PGA Golfer. Now he wants the bag, which is totally fine.

[@DoronBond]

Just like the nba players

[@DoronBond]

@Fire Haze easy!!!

[@joeterzio7175]

Phil has a legacy of being a scum bag. Do more research on him.

[@jacklitz6024]

I’ve never agreed with Steven more in my life then now… Great take Steven … that’s exactly correct

[@jakesjacobs5075]

Liv golf format is like a breath of fresh air, and will grow in popularity.

[@ForsakenWar]

Really? You like those +23 & +24 scores did you?? That tournament was like watching a minor league Korn Ferry Tournament 🤢😅

[@anthonyrobinson2292]

I didn’t think I would ever agree with Steven A in two lifetimes. He is an expert at putting people down. Especially people of color. Perhaps that’s why he supports Phil who by the way spoke truth. And I am proud of him

[@gregthegoatostertag8579]

He puts everybody down, you only pay attention when it’s people of color. What white basketball player is he supposed to criticize? Lmao

[@anthonyrobinson2292]

@@gregthegoatostertag8579 You wouldn’t understand

[@anthonyrobinson2292]

@@gregthegoatostertag8579 I said he puts everyone down

[@gregthegoatostertag8579]

@@anthonyrobinson2292 he does put everyone down, not just black people. You should say: I only care when he puts black people down because I feel it is unfair….because you shouldn’t be allowed to put black people down even though you’re putting them down for a reason and not their skin color.

[@anthonyrobinson2292]

@@gregthegoatostertag8579 I apologize. That’s not exactly what I said. I said he is an expert at putting people down.

[@Pulse2AM]

The Olympics are held all over the world in questionable countries nobody snubs them.

[@nicksandmann5874]

Wait a minute hold on let me get this straight we had a former president and a current president who have both been accused of being foreign assets and you guys are tripping over Phil Mickelson making a couple dollars in the sand.

[@garland1123]

Your on the sports network. You can hear talk about your fake political grifts on CNN/Fox news

[@Beey56]

Always funny to see Americans outraged when other countries do it but it’s totally acceptable if it’s Amurika

[@daedae1522]

A couple of dollars?

[@Legendary_UA]

Yep, Obama and Biden are traitors.

[@Sffhjjngtggb]

It’s like PGA never tasted Saudi money. 😂

[@CC-xl9ow]

He was cracking me up saying you're telling me Dustin Johnson is going to get turned on by beating Lee Westwood and Charles Schwarzel 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@DanielSong39]

He finished miles behind Schwartzel

[@paulmurphy8993]

In the end Mickelson will be proven right even if his tactics were brusque. The tour will ultimately make needed changes to favor players and Phil will become even more beloved...if that's even possible.

[@865354hayden]

Capitalism at work

[@Thechickinaaronscar]

@@865354hayden blood money at work lack of morals at work .

[@865354hayden]

@@Thechickinaaronscar money is money. But definitely capitalism by definition.

[@swardmusic]

And favour viewers. Wiltshire on yt has already put up full access video of dj on his practice round. When has pga tour ever allowed that. Never.

[@jeffreyval9665]

@@swardmusic who cares? You might be the only DJ groupie in the world. Seems like he misses every cut lately. Needs to go play guys that are basically retired and amateurs to have a chance.

[@kup4ever]

SAS said "stop bringing up other people's pockets" Bruh☠️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣gtfo

[@icjmcmullen]

Stephen A. jumps on every sport 😂

[@rayreese8924]

And knows nothing about almost all of them

[@ayubhussein201]

@@rayreese8924 He knows what’s important Baseball, Football and basketball.

[@krynnC]

He has really Good take on this because it's not just Golf but about business.

[@mullumadaan]

PGA tour at one point had no legacy, it all starts somewhere

[@TheIncomparableGolfer]

Finally we get the real truth of what Phil said, and not some cut up version to make him look bad.. Thanks Steven A

[@madD8845]

I’ll be watching the tourney this week.

[@christophercarpenter3807]

they will play some awesome golf course

[@decarlocalloway01]

Stephen A. right on with this.

[@mrb43605]

They play at 3 top 100 golf courses in the world! The courses are great!

[@sayhey5323]

The golfers, not so much.

[@greenbeech3055]

Tiger Woods is one of the cheapest/greediest people out there. The Navy Seals let Tiger train with them for a few weeks, and the last day they all went out to lunch. Tiger who is a billionaire, made each of these guys pay their bills instead of picking up the tab. These guys still talk about that.

[@rayreese8924]

Tiger didn’t leave the PGA Dafuq Tiger got to do with this

[@soisaidtogod4248]

@@rayreese8924 Had to get the racial dig in. They seem to search it out on the net. Sad lives they have.

[@IRONMIKE_D]

PGA is shook ! They are afraid it might grow to something HUGE !

[@jamesnelson5618]

Like what huge There Scared of?

[@chuckwalla2967]

shaken.

[@IRONMIKE_D]

@@chuckwalla2967 in the south we say Shook.

[@shaketin]

@@chuckwalla2967 shaken lmao. I’ve never heard someone use that term like that. PGA is shaken!🤣🤣🤣

[@RayNLA]

@@jamesnelson5618 Scared of becoming irrelevant!

[@TheGolfCommunity1]

ESPN IS SALTY AND I LOVE IT 😂😂

[@omo708]

Same 😂

[@pitbull64]

This is so much fun with these two. Russo needs to be on more than one a week but he's got MLB and Sirius XM so I understand.

[@Tesla99]

The pga golf courses should step in and support liv tournament play! That’ll hammer the nail right in the pga!

[@charliefrey4782]

Absolutely! You know that LIV will throw money at Pebble Beach, Torrey Pines, Oakhurst, Pinehurst, Bethpage, etc... to host LIV events. What's the PGA going to do then? Suspend having tournaments at these legendary courses?

[@ForsakenWar]

@@charliefrey4782 Why?? Because of the level of play at the LIV tournament in London?? They probably don't want 80% of those golfers on their course tearing it up.. +23 & +24 scores!? Dam.. I shoot better then that!?😅🤣😅

[@DanielSong39]

@@ForsakenWar The course was way tougher than the course they played down in Canada

[@SOLDOZER]

@@ForsakenWar You shoot better? I did not see your name on the board.

[@mikebird5148]

LIV already giving access to KZbinrs to give us behind scenes access, LIV already doing something the PGA doesn't do.

[@thrillhouse4784]

who cares?

[@mikebird5148]

@@thrillhouse4784 uhhhm, a lot of people?

[@thrillhouse4784]

@@mikebird5148 behind the scenes of a bunch of washed up golfers?

[@mikebird5148]

@@thrillhouse4784 Uhm ok? it's not for you, cool man.

[@SOLDOZER]

@@thrillhouse4784 2020 US Open winner is washed up? Dustin is ranked as one of the top 15 greatest......

[@JL-po3wl]

The problem is the PGA Tour!

[@natethompson8740]

Agreed

[@retsoptihs0]

@Robbie Hynes Breaches against Yemen, too? Whose weapons did they bomb Yemen with? Oh that's right, US and UK weapons. If our governments can form an alliance with and even arm the Saudis why can't our players take their oil money? It's not blood money, that doesn't even make any sense (I know you didn't call it blood money but plenty have, and I find that an absurd statement unless they're literally paying the players with $100 bills covered in blood. More likely a bank transfer). There's just too much hypocrisy. The PGA Tour had no objections to letting Harold Varner III, DJ and plenty of other PGA Tour members at the time play in Saudi Arabia earlier this year and last year. That's because the Asian Tour doesn't represent a threat (yet). They let their players like Billy Horschel, Rory, Rahm, etc, play on the DP World Tour. Why? Again, it doesn't represent a threat and is even a strategic partner (i.e. the PGA milks all the best talent from Europe until there's nothing left but a load of schoolkids and the ghost of Seve).

[@per_growth]

Everyone talking about how the "defectors" made the right or wrong decision. Everyone talking about how this is 'nothing but greed' or 'for growing the game' Everyone talking about how this is good or bad for the game. It stands to reason that 99% of those who comment here (me included) HAVE NO REAL IDEA how the PGA inner workings go. Phil does. DJ does. Those handful of PGA professionals do. Maybe there is a reason - which they are privy to (and we are not) - that we should all be looking at before judgments can be made.

[@andrewvancura2901]

Dustin’s had back issues more money less rounds makes sense

[@dankool688]

They won't be missed...pga will go on...

[@tonychen1860]

The PGA Tour is afraid that if they allow LIV to coexist, top players will earn so much from the 8 events that they will focus solely on those tourneys, the majors, and take the rest of the season off. There’s two ways to deal with this, either let it coexist, which would enter a new player in the market. Or, they can denounce it outright. If money attracts all the best talent to play LIV, the PGA would eventually lose most of their revenue stream, which is generated mostly from the top .1% on the owgr anyway. I can see why they came to this decision. It’s a way of retaining most of their best talent instead of quickly losing it to a rival tour, and thus quickly losing all their revenue. They chose to lose later instead of lose now. If they let all their players partake, LIV will outgrow the PGA tour and redirect most of the tour’s revenue to the Saudi’s pockets. If they let players slowly funnel out with a threat of barring them from returning, they would dissuade players from leaving and, thus lose less revenue. However, we all know this is a bluff. If enough high ranked players leave and Bryson wanted to come back, you think the PGA Tour would say no? BUT, the PGA Tour still retains strong support from Tiger and Rory, their first and third most revenue generating contractees, and a slough of the best players in the world. Their best case scenario is that LIV will die out in a few years when their revenue is far outpaced by their spending. The PGA tour is still regarded as the premier tour, ranking ahead of the DP World and KFT. So they’re essentially a monopoly with the best talent. I personally think they’ve been more than fair with the prize money and last year’s social media fund, but it’s also fair that players take that amount of money as it guarantees generational wealth. (Think of Anthony Kim’s insurance case). Wait. He’d actually be perfect for this tour. Anyways thanks for listening to my rant. It’s my analysis from a game theorist’s perspective.

[@s.marshian8455]

Problem is Tiger is getting up there in age and I don’t see him ever getting back to total dominance again. Lol and I don’t think LIV can run out of money since they’re financed by Saudi Arabia money.

[@tonychen1860]

@@s.marshian8455 Definitely not, but Tiger will sell tickets well into his 60’s. He barely played 2 tournaments last year and made the PGA Tour the most money. Not sure what the situation is with LIV, haven’t dug into it. But even the most ambitious oil money projects get stalled when it is determined to be unsustainable in the long term. The Kingdom Tower was supposed to be 1km tall and has not resumed construction in nearly a decade after building the first 1/3 of it.

[@NGMountains]

I believe the viewers will decide how relevant LIV GOLF will be. The talking heads only care about maintaining the PGA monopoly on golf.

[@ForsakenWar]

Well.... a hundred thousand viewers on streaming and about 50% attendance in London... so..🤢😅

[@NGMountains]

@@ForsakenWar Well I'd say that outpaced the first PGA event exponentially then. 🙄

[@jnikolas7084]

Stephen A and Mad Dog make a great show.

[@tony84.]

1:58 😂These two are gold!

[@shaund823]

Wait a minute; did SAS just mention China when talking about not excusing human rights violations?!?? ESPN may not be a fan of such a comment….

[@DoronBond]

You see how quick Molly eventually…..I’m surprised that they put that clip on KZbin

[@shaund823]

@@DoronBond right after you hear her say something quick offscreen like she got told by the man in her ear; and she still had some surprise on here face when she comes back on screen.

[@DoronBond]

@@shaund823 oh dang let me go back and look 😂😲

[@julianpapin9428]

Love how mr uppercut king is now expert in golf as well.

[@Ryanlexz]

I don't blame them! PGA still love tiger woods

[@omo708]

Cause he brings the money

[@mattmcbeth2078]

Sergio Garcia in playing LIV I bet more will make the jump mad dog is for sure MAD

[@zbabyg6998]

As a sports analyst, how can you critize a player moving for more money? Nearly every player from every sport is willing to move for more money... even the massive millionaires.

[@poumpea9371]

Not NF!!, right

[@jeffg1524]

I can see Mad Dog's point about the Saudi's but have to agree with Stephen. The PGA has become too monolithic and doesn't listen to the marginal players who don't get all the glory and have trouble eking out a living. As Stephen pointed out, the PGA has already started to change. If it weren't for the LIV competition catalyst would they have? Doubt it.

[@MoMoMyPup10]

My friend, the PGA has been making such changes ever since Tiger entered the arena. This isn't new, it's just the latest of ways the Tour is improving. And in the end, it doesn't justify the means. The reason some don't get all the glory is because they aren't good enough. Golf has 3 of the top 4 wealthiest athletes of all time, and Phil is _8th_

[@jeffg1524]

@@MoMoMyPup10 He definitely is now with all those Saudi millions.😁

[@DoronBond]

PGA Tour vs LIV Golf equates to ‘Who Moved My Cheese’

[@clancyflood5950]

Let's revisit that conversation lmao. Love the moral highground

[@greenbeech3055]

These dudes are more upset about golfers playing for the Saudi tour, than they were about Tiger Woods driving 90mph during rush hour in a residential zone, lucky he didn't kill someone.

[@authenticapparel1906]

This guy is such an Italian wise guy.

[@Simon-nv5zj]

We will see after a few years whether this will take off or not. If LIV golf doesn’t recruit more top ten etc players, it will fall in a heap. The Saudi’s are not dumb, the amount they are spending and the purse prize won’t be sustainable unless they attract the best players in the world.

[@jaymaster2215]

Great player and Champion of the game.

[@Roroncy-eb8xj]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥wow finally someone is calling out the PGA on their BS!

[@Steelers2841]

Phil made a good point there needs to be change at the PGA Level. & Don't even blame the players either if they want to jump ship

[@Flatzee1]

They can still play the majors and LIV. Why wouldn’t they do it? More golf is good for golf.

[@ForsakenWar]

Lol! Ummm... yea... I hate to tell you.

[@milly7205]

You didn’t say anything about Rory mcilroy leaving the European tour , to play in the US..best course in the world are in Scotland.

[@DanielOliverio]

The High School reality show drama going on in the game of golf right now is laughable. It’s truly an embarrassment and humiliation. It’s like going through a bad public divorce and airing out all the dirty laundry for the world to see. Totally degraded and defamed the image of the PGA and golf as a sport as a whole. Making a mockery of the prestige of golf on the PGA tour in my opinion. Suspended indefinitely at war feuding instead of cooperating & making the best out of a bad situation. Things work out best for organizations that make the most out of how things work out. PGA has handled this so poorly. The game of golf should be welcomed everywhere all over the world and expand into as many territories as possible. PGA Tour Imperialism thinks they are the most elitist organization on Earth and everyone should bow down to them. Who do they think they are? It’s a GAME! A silly game! It’s the greatest game ever played that’s for sure but a game nonetheless and shouldn’t be taken so seriously. Golf is meant to be enjoyed by every race, gender, culture and on every nation to unite people in the game of sport. These Saudis are businessmen. AMERICA has blood on their hands just the same as the Saudis so condemning players while American history of war after war is different how? Native American genocide and theft of the land? African slavery? EUROPEANS have been peasants, servants, slaves and serfs trapped in generational proletariat blue collar forced intensive labor since it’s inception. How many fathers, mothers, sons, daughters and Americans have been murdered in our country. Mass shootings recently? When did the PGA ever believe these athletes compete to say I’m a proud member of the PGA. They compete for money for their families plain and simple. Money is the motivator not legacy. Tiger should have 100% UNITED THE TOURS and WELCOMED THEM WITH OPEN ARMS & TAKEN THE $1 BILLION. Remember after his scandal the way they treated Tiger? Remember the speech they chastised and talked down to him as if he were a child berating him for making a human mistake. TIGER TAKE THE BILLION! PGA tour are CHEAP like the UFC! Pay more MONEY PGA and UPDATE TO THE NEW WORLD IN 2022 with your OLD RULES & THIS IS THE WAY ITS ALWAYS BEEN DONE MENTALITY and maybe players won’t have to jump ship to other tours. NATURAL SELECTION EVOLVE THE GAME OF GOLF OR DIE!

[@TheHubrisOfMan]

Love the passion, young man! And, couldn't agree more!

[@DanielOliverio]

@@TheHubrisOfMan The PGA had a choice on how to react. War or peace. Inclusion or exclusion. They chose war and exclusion. In todays world it would have been real progressive to figure out a solution for cooperation and send a message to the youth and golf lovers around the world that the game of golf is going to work with everyone to find solutions.

[@neuuser7071]

It’s really a weird meltdown by pga. Their pr messaging has just been out of touch and heavy handed.

[@TheHubrisOfMan]

@@neuuser7071 I've also been amused by ESPN and other "media" outlet's overtly being shills for the PGA's crusade to preserve the "sanctity" of America's status as the top of the golf world.

[@DanielOliverio]

@@neuuser7071 Absolutely. I worked in pr/marketing/advertising/publishing for years and this may be the worst handled situation by a major sports league I have ever seen. Who is the person in charge of their PR? How could they let this degradation of such a prestigious organization happen? They should be fired immediately.

[@MissDaisyTheRacoon]

$220 Million sounds better than $95 Million. If LIV offered these guys $25 Million a year to be an analysts, they would be praising the players that moved to LIV Golf.

[@jacedaace01]

SAS aligning himself with Phil's sentiments on the PGA trying to monopolise how the public watches pro golf is significant & intriguing. Jay Monahan & the PGA are risking a lot by thinking that the public's interest in pro golf will start to wane with the introduction of a new golf tour/series. As a golf fan, I really don't care where the golf is being played, how much the prize money is, what tour the tournament is associated with....I just want to watch the best players in the world playing golf! It's that simple. LIV Golf, carry on...

[@ForsakenWar]

So you enjoyed watching that sh*t show LIV called a tournament this week then?😅 48 golfers.... 8 shot par or better and there were even some +23 & +24 scores in there... You think you were watching the best players in the world?😅🤣 🤡

[@violabeaumont3758]

Golf was already in a stagnate and dying state as a sport anyways. Golf Courses have been struggling because the PGA has utterly failed to drum up interest, and lets be honest the PGA tour has never drummed up interest. Gold exploded thanks to the emergence of Tiger Woods. Before that Golf exploded thanks to Jack and Arnold. PGA tour has done nothing but cater to ultra elite sponsors who shill overpriced watches, clothing, and Golf Equipment.. driving up the cost to even participate in the sport as a hobby beyond a great portion of the worlds reasonable means.

[@retsoptihs0]

@@violabeaumont3758 Excellent points. The only tournaments that pay decent prize money on the DP World Tour are sponsored by Rolex. Who can afford a Rolex? Older people, mostly. That's not the best demographic for long-term growth. Jack and Arnie set the tour up by the players FOR the players, not for Jay Monahan. Jay needs to remember that because I think in the near future the players will revolt (not necessarily to join LIV but to oust Jay and take control of their own tour and not be beholden to anyone as independent contractors). Tiger's presence is what made the PGA Tour lucrative. It has nothing to do with Monahan.

[@solemander9856]

He ain’t right all the time, but Stephen A hit it on the head. The PGA is acting like that kid who got beat the first game, complained and took his ball home with him.

[@felix207]

It's gonna happen in disc golf also. Don't call it frisbee golf!!!!

[@zacharytaylor6677]

S A is 💯 right on this one

[@sparkles43]

DeChambeau, DJ, Phil, more will follow. The dam has broke How can the PGA tell these players where they can and can't play and how they can make money? These strong arm tactics won't work long and are already failing as we can see. Once most of the Top 20 take the plunge what's the PGA going to do? Are they going to have Augusta without all the best players showing up because they put a line in the sand. They are going to have to eventually eat some crow on this one. The one upside is if all the big names and best players hop the fence, Tiger can maybe compete against some weaker talent and eek out those last few Major PGA wins once all the top guys bail

[@DoronBond]

Yep.

[@Gnofg]

The biggest problem will be OWGR points. I don't think any sanctioning body will award points for a 3 round tournament.

[@Criminal.Lawyer.2024]

@ted dillon I agree with a lot of what you are saying...but personally I wouldn't take money and play for murderous dictators. The way the media works, and the way people think, every time Saudi beheads someone we will all be reminded that Mickelson indirectly supported those murderous dictators. It's a bad look.

[@DanielSong39]

@@Gnofg Asian Tour will step up big time with big money events Saudi International and International Series, that's already 11 tournaments Probably a handful more in the silly season

[@Criminal.Lawyer.2024]

@ted dillon The parts you are right about is that the PGA is not fair. But the way capitalism works eventually another tour will emerge to challenge the PGA. I wonder if Phil and Dustin will play for Putin or Kim Jong Un? Would they have played for Hiter, Stalin, or Mussolini?

[@floridianpicker]

Actually have to applaud Steven A for mentioning China and Saudi Arabia in the same sentence.

[@Entername-md1ev]

Saudi, China and Russia are all from the same cloth

[@decafmocha211]

I read an interesting article : "The majors hold all the cards." I agree with that. The PGA can ban the LIV players from the PGA tournaments. But the Majors can also ban the LIV players from the Majors. This is just another way to protect the PGA and I think they have that right.

[@finalfrontier001]

They won't if they did it would a legal action against them. Worse case scenario... Greg creates his own versions. Oh boy.

[@soisaidtogod4248]

The majors are just a usa marketing thing. That is what they are shitting about, loss of exclusivity.

[@DanielSong39]

@@soisaidtogod4248 Yeah the modern concept of 4 majors didn't really take hold until the 1960's and people weren't really counting majors the way they do now

[@DanielSong39]

@@finalfrontier001 Shades of pro tennis before the Open Era

[@visionaryinsightsports]

Stephen A & the Dog are a good combo

[@226butters226]

And JJ Reddick has been a great addition keeping SAS at bay. Hope they keep him around

[@EllisEntertainment]

Let the comments get spicy 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@lookfeelbehealthy6320]

I don't say this often, but good points, SAS.

[@dylantenbrinke3260]

I think this is going to be amazing.

[@sh19808]

I love how he was like I love capitalism and then was like how dare the PGA have a monopoly that’s exploiting the golfers of the PGA.

[@904Zambo]

A "perfect" capitalist system is based on competition... So yea makes perfect sense to me. There is no perfect system, so ultimately monopolies or dictatorships are issues, but his take here holds up.

[@cliff13333]

Monopolies are anti capitalist. Lol.

[@retsoptihs0]

@@cliff13333 Exactly lol

[@dantediego]

Soon as you say China producers Jump in like go to break

[@schnare1]

Well said!

[@G225-t4w]

Why these fools counting other men’s pockets they fam not gone eat off a legacy

[@joeterzio7175]

Type in English maybe.

[@billyhassett2728]

Love The Maddog. He’s a great addition to,the show and he’s not a lib hack like Max. Go get’m Maddog!

[@GuruLiving4]

I absolutely love the LIV tour!

[@Blacklist324]

Pro golf was ran by the PGA of America, the PGA was started because the players wanted bigger purses but the PGA believed the money should go into the general fund to "help grow the game" a group of players led by Arnold Palmer & Jack Nicklaus left the PGA of America and started the PGA Tour. It was all about money, not history not trophies.

[@travissmith6380]

We get it, SAS will do ANYTHING for money. You want him to act like a clown. No Problem, You want him to put a cowboy hat and do a stupid accent, sure. You want him to shuck and jive...stay tuned.

[@Gnofg]

you do realize shuck and jive is pretty racist.

[@bayodaman]

lol Bro what's your problem? I bet you would do it for a 100 million dummy. This isn't real life bra the Stephen A on TV is not the same person in real life. he's not our friend he's a personality.

[@travissmith6380]

@@bayodaman so you would do anything for money?? No questions asked. And you don't need to cape up for SAS. Stop D1$k Riding

[@PGO_Gaming]

@@travissmith6380 You have no idea how many people would sell their souls for 1 million dollars, let alone 100 million. The vast majority of people around you are just robots. They don't think for themselves. They can't function without someone else beside them. They'll sacrifice their families for their own success. Disgusting human beings.

[@mikekrispey6136]

So y’all are defending the golfers but were the first wanted to say college athlete shouldn’t be paid…? Make it make sense

[@mattmcbeth2078]

Not going to play on any great golf courses? Really

[@Paulafan5]

Golf club technology has ruined most of the "great" golf courses for pros. There are great courses that are obsolete now because of the technology.

[@dm-ns4zt]

WELCOME PGA TO FREE AGENCY. IT'S ABOUT TIME. LIV GOLF PLEASE HIRE HOLLY SONDERS - WOULD BE AWESOME

[@pastusek1]

Money talks

[@marksias6764]

Pushing Saudi hatred is racist. We do business with Isreal and they have huge civilrights issues in how they treat non jews.

[@solenvy]

Mad Dog nails it.

[@recyclops3587]

When do you see real competitors take more money to compete with lesser opponents, less coverage, less legacy, less history, and play in a lesser league? They took easy money and didnt care whose pockets were providing.

[@RolandKaos]

LIV is a business. PGA is a business. Its essentially two businesses fighting for dominance. The players make their decision where to play, that's their right. If they make that decision to go with LIV, they lose that right to play on the PGA. That business has chosen to suspend them. Fair enough.

[@gregthegoatostertag8579]

The fact that he has made, in his career, what he will make in a year says enough. The PGA makes billions, is non-profit/doesn’t pay taxes and the players make 3 million for a major victory? What a joke.

[@2Thes22]

Wow! Mickelson’s comments have been proven correct. LIV leverage has forced the monopolistic PGA to make changes. In fact, the PGA’s changes make it more like LIV.

[@RealYoutube33]

Oh the saltiness of ESPN and pga monopoly starting to break.

[@erichbiggart6366]

It’s naïve to say someone should care more about the legacy of a tour or historic players vs the best way to make their own living as a professional. This is a business for the players and the Tours and no one is in the business of giving money away. The employer now has to figure out a way to replace the talent that felt undervalued and underpaid and found an option that meets their current professional needs. Period.

[@RoughOnStuff]

I’d call it naive to conflate making a living, which the tour has allowed hundreds if not thousands of young men to do, with hundred million dollar pay outs for yesteryear’s stars. As for replacing talent, that’s not an issue the PGA tour has.

[@mrfabulous17]

Mad Dog is an angry old man holding on to the past.. ESPN reached with this one..

[@Drj-69]

I miss Max Kellerman... This show sucks since Max left this show...

[@erictriplett33]

1) "Nobody cares" -- that's not true. I watched the first LIV golf event and it was very entertaining and the new format was refreshing. 2) "not going to play on any great golf courses" -- also not true. That Centurion Club in London was a beautiful course. The last LIV event is in Miami on Doral / Blue monster, which the PGA Tour should never have left IMO.

[@correcttheculture1829]

Dog left the best talk sports show ever for more money.

[@matthewjohnson1643]

I don’t agree with Steven ain’t very often but he’s 100% correct. I love when people get on their moral high horse at certain points but not others. If you want to be moral you have to be more all the time not when it suits you.