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In this video, a highly educated individual with a master’s degree shares his frustrating experience of being unable to secure job interviews despite his qualifications. We discuss the challenges and emotions faced in the job market, shedding light on the difficulties many graduates encounter.
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In this video, we talk about a very important issue that many people face today: having a master's degree but still not being able to get a job interview. Our viewer, who has worked hard to earn their degree, shares their story and the struggles they face in the job market.
This video aims to highlight the challenges that many graduates experience when looking for a job. Despite having advanced degrees and qualifications, they find it difficult to even get an interview. We discuss the reasons behind this issue, including the job market's current state, competition, and the gap between academic skills and job requirements.
We also examine the role of networking and connections in job hunting. Often, job opportunities are filled through personal connections and referrals, which can put those without a strong professional network at a disadvantage. Another important point is the impact of location and industry demand. Some areas have more job opportunities than others, and certain industries may have more demand for specific skills.
We hope this video sheds light on the realities of the job market for graduates with advanced degrees. If you are facing similar challenges, know that you are not alone, and there are steps you can take to improve your chances of getting an interview and landing your desired job.

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[@urbanbedouinchill]

I’m a huge fan of starting your own company. I started my own cyber company just doing basic security awareness training for older people in my family and people in my community. When the time came, I was offered GRC duties at my job and it just grew from there. A lot of naysayers act like that’s cheating the system but it’s not. That’s legit experience and if you can speak to it intelligently you’ll probably be fine. I even let my employer know it’s my own company and I do it very part-time, they were fine with that. Be bold people. Create your opportunity, and at the least be ready for when that dream opportunity comes.

[@kaylove4507]

That is brilliant what a brilliant strategy❤❤❤❤❤

[@kaylove4507]

Do you have a degree in it or a certificate or are you a self-taught

[@urbanbedouinchill]

@@kaylove4507 no degree or cyber certs when I got started. I had Google IT Support Professional at the time and about 7 months of helpdesk experience and that was it.

[@urbanbedouinchill]

@@kaylove4507 everything else was self taught

[@grovedwayne390]

😊 I definitely agree

[@drealist]

I was on a similar situation, had a BS in Cyber and Sec+ but no experience... I had to literally relocate mid country to get a decent help desk job. THANKFULLY, my security clearance helped. And I'm now I've been doing IA for about a year.. looking into cloud security and more hands-on technical roles.

[@ftgljared]

i just got a remote help desk job with a cyber degree and certs up to pentest+

[@user-ql5jk2bt9c]

You should not have to relocate "mid country" for a HELP DESK job, with a BS in cybersecurity and a Sec+ cert!!! I hope you meant to say decent cybersecurity job.

[@drealist]

​@@user-ql5jk2bt9cfor 95k , a sign on bonus and relocation, I did.

[@jony3860]

I'm sort of in the same boat myself. I got laid off from a tech job after working there for over 14 years. While working in the tech job, I was pursuing my master's in cyber and got laid off during my last semester. I've got a Security+ cert and even put a project on my resume that I did in the capstone in which I worked with a team to help out a government organization. I got a job offer as a cyber analyst that fell through because I couldn't obtain a clearance in the few weeks that they needed it. The only two offers I ever got after that was teaching at high school level and teaching at college level. Of course I opted for the college one due to better pay and more mature students. I'm afraid at some point that I'll get stuck in a rut with teaching that I can't get out due to lack of real world experience.

[@annai157]

Possible "elephant in the room" in this case. The commenter says he has a Masters from the US and is "based there" - but doesn't mention his or her country of citizenship, or if he has a green card. A lot of cyber jobs require clearances, etc. With recent TikTok and Kaspersky scandals - it could be that potential employers are skittish about calling a non-citizen for an interview. And, as someone with a "foreign" name myself, just letting people know HOW to pronounce your name - or a nickname to call you that they find easy to pronounce - might help with call backs. Americans can be very shy about pronouncing unfamiliar names.

[@luchendrix99]

His spelling and grammar are also big indicators.

[@DestinyAlready]

I have a masters degree and can’t even get a job interview either. I am an American citizen and live in the US. So what now?

[@annai157]

@@DestinyAlready Your Master's is in Cyber?

[@user-ql5jk2bt9c]

@@DestinyAlready interview for what role? master's degree in what?

[@usr21882]

Small chances. I am a naturalized us citizen with an asian name, yet I'm working for lockheed with a security clearance lol. Never have troubles getting interviews either. If you can't even believe in yourself, then how can the employers? It's the resume itself and your work experience that makes the biggest difference, stop worrying about your own name, be proud of it lmao

[@cyber_vadyara]

Josh is spot on. It worked for me! Craft your resume and really treat your projects like a real job and simulate enterprise environment to showcase the skills necessary for the job. Find the projects and customize and make them your own. I did two of Josh’s labs plus a third one but changed them and made them my own. I believe than showed passion and I got the job. Good luck!

[@JoshMadakor]

tysm fort taking the time to comment. This is definitely true and how it works. The hard part is the execution, but if you can do it, you'll def get a job eventually. Great work :)

[@JohnCutter317]

Almost like trolling since he legitimately said he doesn't have skills that's kinda weird. People seem to forget entry level >> promotion>> pivot Is the way regardless of degree or certs

[@franknoneofya9585]

Been doing IT for 23 years, a degree with no experience is just not it. Plenty of people have gotten certs and degrees without ever doing the work.

[@Dee-zy2xv]

makes total logical sense

[@Jorsten]

So, basically, everything is useless.

[@franknoneofya9585]

@Jorsten it's not useless, but I've hired people with degrees that don't have a clue as to how to use tools and even entry level tools, heck I've known people with experience who don't know how to troubleshoot. If you can't identify a problem, you can't resolve a problem.

[@KingFish-ci9pu]

Companies encourage you to attend college so you can learn and they judge that as a baseline. If no one gives you your first job how do you get experience. Some companies don’t care about your projects or building computers at home. That’s just the reality. That’s why @Jorsten said everything is useless.

[@eman0828]

I broke into I.T without a degree or certifications. What I did differently from everyone else is I had a homelab. I used my home lab server infrastructure to develop my practical hands on skills by building stuff, breaking, troubleshooting and fixing stuff. Now I'm a Red Hat Linux Admin. Practical hands on experience is what gets you jobs.

[@FloridaInvestor]

How can you get experience if no one gives you a chance.

[@AgsBud]

I think another good analogy would be... you have great armor and weapon that took you a lot of time to get but you only learned how to do the boss through tutorials/studies and never actually went out and tried it. Raid groups won't pick you up because they see you don't have actual experience killing the boss even though you studied for it.

[@RM-nv1pj]

Thanks for this👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@keithbennett8516]

Im(36m) going for A+ and waiting on the green light to go study computing with cybersecurity and digital forensics I'm collage in september.all my life I've been a bar staff/manager decided one day,i wanted to build own computer,started learning about raspberry pies and lynx.using a type 2 hypervisor and messing around with packet tracer and metasploit(legally),built my own touchscreen pie 5 mini PC and installed a hard drive to boot from.im still a total noob,but in a year ive done alot from ground 0.and i really enjoy it. As for getting a job,that's what I plan to do,make a portfolio and a home lab with for breaking,testing and fixing software. And I'm going to do it with raspberry pies.i shit u not

[@Jorsten]

So what would be considered as a good start for cybsec without a degree? Google security cert along with sec+? Where to go from there? Cloud certs, burp suite for pen testing?

[@zoiks6631]

The short, and likely disappointing to many, answer is that Cybersecurity is not an entry level IT field, no matter how many degrees, certifications, projects, or paid training courses you have. I’ve worked in IT for about 25 years, and the only exception to this is if you already hold active security clearance (typically obtained through military service). Government contractors are always in need of employees with security clearance (but they don’t want to sponsor and pay for people to obtain security clearance since it takes well over a year to obtain), so that is the only shortcut in the Cybersecurity field. If you don’t already have security clearance, you’ll have to work your way up in IT before landing a Cybersecurity role.

[@indexcards9414]

Could you please make a video just about making an online cybersecurity portfolio and how to upload projects onto it? I think that's the biggest gap in my knowledge about how to apply for cybersecurity jobs. Thank you.

[@icecold__]

His github video is what you want to look at, has all that info

[@puremindeinspirational]

I’m so happy I have came across your channel. I can’t stop watching. I have no education nor experience. I’m about to start classes sone. But why not do an internship or apprenticeship?

[@rwxrw]

Thank you again for this.

[@JoshMadakor]

Thank you!!

[@eman0828]

Here's the truth. Experience is what get you jobs. Your degree or certifications are only as good as your experience. A degree alone will not land you a job fresh out of college with zero experience with the exception of an entry-level support role which you can get without a degree.

[@Geomaverick124]

I feel like he is either not applying to enough jobs or just not applying to the right ones...Nothing about his stated profile says Cybersecurity...it resembles an IT or Programmer or systems type of profile. I would honestly suggest he look into getting maybe a more advanced cert or a cloud security cert, post about his journey and projects on LinkedIn. He needs to make it seem like he has been doing this forever

[@Geomaverick124]

And focus on getting a job in roles that say IT, Programming, or Systems and then pivot to cyber

[@user-ql5jk2bt9c]

Communication might have been part of the issue here. If this person has been sending this type of email, or if their resume is filed with similar grammatical errors, it does not give a good impression. They have or do not have cybersecurity skills/experience? As others mentioned, country of origin and immigration status might also be a problem. Does this person require sponsorship for a visa?

[@MarstonConner]

I feel like I am in a similar boat. I would like to break into cyber sec. I have a B.S in CompSci and M.S in Cyber.(WGU) so I have a few certs and some skill, but I have been doing dev ops for about 5 years and tech in general around 8-9 years. All my exp is in infra and automation…not so much in SOC specific task. I do have my own consulting company, but I typically help with pre-sales or cloud services. Do you feel like creating a few of my own projects would be enough, I do have some indirect experience but I know in today’s market that can be a tough sale. Side note I do currently work on security automation for a Fortune 500 company, but I am still very far removed from the analysts, threat modeling, plays etc. I WANT TO USE MY DEGREE! 😅

[@nostalgicnow6001]

I have 3 years networking no degree I get calls all the time

[@Liftheavy85]

I like the wow reference Yeah basically you are looking for people who cleared the raid and you get whispered by a guy who said he hasn't cleared it but watched videos on it. Some people might want to take him in and show him the mechanics others will just move on to someone who actually cleared it that's basically the cybersecurity job hunt. Now instead of saying he watched videos on it and instead actually did the raid on the PTR and cleared it and knows all the mechanics then he will probably get invited

[@JoshMadakor]

This is a great analogy haha, thank you

[@n1c704]

Conveying passion = the things you do to build up skills and experience when you’re not being paid.

[@LB__1]

I am beginning to wonder if it is worth pursuing a BS degree in Cybersecuity.

[@TooHonest4_You]

Tbh I would only do CS or IS/IT degrees because it’s more common. Most cyber roles aren’t entry level anyways

[@JohnWalsh2019]

It's not.

[@OffPHwnr]

100% not

[@hardlessons9732]

Remove the masters from Resume

[@Ghostin93]

Why? Unless they're haters(which I believe a lot of people are) his Master's Degree shouldn't matter. The issue is he barely has any working experience in Tech at all let alone in Cyber.

[@hardlessons9732]

@@Ghostin93 Because the salary negotiations might be tough with someone with a masters vs a BA. You tend to have scenarios in which a MA or BA perform the job but they are able to get a bargain with the BA candidate

[@user-db3vr1yy5w]

I have oscp and bachelor's in cloud computing. How hard would it be for me to get into cybersecurity?

[@JoshMadakor]

It's going to be easier for you than the average person, at least at this point. OSCP is very hard to get as you know, and having a degree is good. You just have to make sure you are portraying everything well on your resume/applications and performing in the interview. Check out the employability framework video if you haven't yet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hF7TpJ6wi8SKh80 TY for the comment!

[@docholliday4546]

I dont feel passion is the correct word...

[@JoshMadakor]

Lol haha

[@outtatv1034]

Not a WoW reference

[@JoshMadakor]

Lol haha

[@DestinyAlready]

That wasn’t unhelpful. False assumptions that something’s wrong with your resume. People out here acting like the system is perfect and just the way it is and that you’re the one that’s doing something wrong.

[@JohnWalsh2019]

Real easy - don't go into IT or Cybersecurity. Go into a skilled trade and you will always have work and money. My friends that went into the trades are all living large while I am still trying to get a job. The IT job market is terrible, the expectations are unrealistic, and the HR Depts and hiring managers are clueless. Plus, we are seeing wages falling in tech which is compounded by rising inflation. Do yourselves a favor and pivot now into a trade job if you can. This channel feels like nothing more than propaganda by a guy that really doesn't understand the real tech job market. Good luck all! #FJB!

[@JohnWalsh2019]

@@ultravioletiris6241 trade jobs, such as HVAC, electrician, plumber, mechanic, mason worker, tile setter, welder, millwright, cnc operator, tool and die maker, fabricator, locksmith, boilermaker, glazier, etc. etc. etc.

[@JohnWalsh2019]

@@ultravioletiris6241 YT just deleted my comment no idea why. There are a lot of trade jobs - HVAC, Mechanic, Plumber, Electrician, tile setter, Mason work.

[@JohnWalsh2019]

@@ultravioletiris6241 you don't know anyone that works in the tech industry? I am confused as to why you are giving any advice then?

[@olafharoldsonnii4713]

I'd have both. Once I land a cyber security engineer/architect job. I'll look at a HVAC cert

[@headshotcaptain8389]

Fuck IT/Cyber Security. Having gone through college getting a bachlors degree in cyber security, completing certifications along with having experience from 2 unpaid internships, I've yet to even land a job in the damn field. I poured blood, sweat and tears with my damn soul as well to break in and NO ONE WILL GIVE ME A FUCKING CHANCE. Despite having a bachelors, certs, internship experience and buidling quite a few home labs projects, nothing works. Waste of fucking money/time and I had only wished that I'd seen the writing on the wall sooner and pivoted to another field such as the medical field where the path/entry to employment is much more linear. Tech is a fucking joke, you hear those with absolutely no education/experience but they do a damn cert and get hired while others go into debt with school/certs and get rejected repeatedly. Like serious what the actual fuck is wrong with this field its so assbackwards, there are no entry level jobs they most definitely require some experience while they pay criminally low rates too.