Madame Stealing (He)Arts with M'Exposure

When working for exposure already isn't viable enough as an option, let's also throw in the concept of not paying someone for their work because they're not a professional.
While I give more leeway to people under the age of 24, targeted harassment and attempting to dox a minor's phone number is generally something you don't need to be fully mature to recognize is kind of a bad thing.
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❤ Featured Fanart ❤
“The Octomama Giving Advice” by steams_nightmare
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“A Hot Ass Octomomma” by maddii_roo
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“Octomoms” by lee_zhe_squid
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“Ponder Sprocket” by jollyrummboogster
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“WTF” by roses.luckride.art
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“A Pink Ponder” by wstaudrey
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“Octo Momma” by juzzy.art
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“A Ponder Sprocket Bust” by momapprovedyo
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“Fanart of EmptyBrooke” by spacee._.cadett
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“Babs Getting Along” by emsmelody
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“A Pinup of Ponder Sprocket” by pcvaughn8
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“Ponder Sprocket” by mdev_theartist
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[@Nezziemonster]

Leafy = No Chin Madame = No Skin

[@syliic934]

No skin or backbone

[@bigmeatysausage]

Nezziemonster oof gottem

[@emmasuarez9475]

B r u h you’ve destroyed her

[@wormfrogs3576]

*oh my god you madlad*

[@notyourdaughter666]

Nezziemonster holy shit dude that is a HOT fucking burn

[@chocodoeeyes]

Moral of the story: don’t look up to a Leafy clone. Just don’t...

[@Tamaki742]

More importantly, _don't_ be a Leafy clone.

[@rii7531]

even more importantly, dont anger the art community beehive

[@Tamaki742]

@@rii7531 The sad thing is, some people on the internet, for whatever reason, just don't want to respect artists. Like they think being an artist is easy, "it's just lines on paper"/"drawing digitally is easier"/"it's just drawing", and they don't want to pay for art but desperately wants it from artists who specifically offers *commission* .

[@rii7531]

Tamaki742 honestly, yea and theres the same issue for like every profession. we tend to oversimplify what we dont learn

[@Tamaki742]

@@rii7531 I mean that's fine if it's just that, but some people are just so bullheaded about it.

[@incw.2601]

If she’s Female Leafy then of course the Female Content Cop got her.

[@sauceenjoyer6511]

Gottem

[@wickedblue6618]

l m a y o

[@InvaderBB]

Now we wait for the female leafy to commit despacito. If she really wants to be like him. (I’m kidding. She’s a bitch but I’m not that cruel.)

[@tsulee7876]

700th

[@Sinstarclair]

Nawnii

[@prettyevil6662000]

"I approached a 15 year old and was appalled they were a 15 year old" is basically Madame's whole argument, isn't it?

[@Lucifersfursona]

The amount of times I have heard this crap “This child I targeted because they were a child??? I found out they were A CHILD” like great cool water is wet and you’re garbage

[@Herorajna]

She'd probablly be like ,,You act so childish 🙄🙄🙄" to a 5 yo ToT

[@birdiehouse143]

Madame: *THEY HARASSED ME* Also Madame: Here's her number btw

[@launatheartistsstudio3466]

Ashley what she did was just very low Madame is just playing Mean and she calls the damn teenager unprofessional when she's the one who's unprofessional sure she made a mistake commenting on a public platform but that doesn't mean she should just lash out on her and stuff and just tell people to harass her because that's just a stupid move and a childish move *who else thinks that?*

[@toadallysuki]

I made it 666 likes 😶

[@birdiehouse143]

@@toadallysuki now we can summon satan, thank you

[@launatheartistsstudio3466]

@@birdiehouse143 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[@prosperosmoon]

@@toadallysuki Oh shit, I made it 666 too... wtf is up KZbin?

[@MsKiko000]

"As A vIcTim Of RaPe MySelF" doesn't mean shit, everyone can handle things differently. Some vent it out to anyone, others hide it to everyone including their partners and friends. So yeah, As A vICtIm MySelF, there is a whole spectrum of how humans can react based on their personality.

[@softestshade7813]

Rebecca N Personailities, support, mental health, experiences, so much goes into how someone deals with horribly traumatic things. There is no one right way and Madame making her out to be a villain that way is??? Diiiiisgustinggg

[@sacreddeer9711]

As another vIctIm MySelF, you're right and you should say it.

[@seasaltcosmos]

As A vIcTim MySelF you're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR SAYIN IT

[@dazedandconfused2557]

And maybe she didn't have anybody she could talk to or trusted enough to tell, and she just really needed to talk about it so she told a person who she looked up too and thought would give her some support

[@Angelface11]

YEP! And every reaction is fine- We all deal with things differently...harming others isn't ok..but I find it odd how everyone judges how people react when trauma happens. You cannot control it.

[@_fluff.e_]

"The cherry on top of the Dumb Sundae" The Dumdae

[@pebbles3609]

YEEEAAAAAAAHHHH

[@kieranindahouse]

XD

[@dottieszabo3530]

I would serve that dish to my brother in a heartbeat

[@lawgobrr6233]

me who is named dae: cries

[@Sagee69]

i love this

[@avianace6201]

if i hired an artist and they publicly commented on the video their art is in, saying they wanted credit, i would simply apologize, credit them, and thank them for letting me know. that’s it. if it was really a big deal about the public comment, i would tell them privately “thank for you letting me know about the lack of credit, but next time can we keep those things in private conversation”. thats it. because if you care so much about professionalism, BE PROFESSIONAL.

[@solarchaotica]

Also like , it's unpaid work. Being "professional" is not an expectation of a kid doing fanart. However, the adult with a KZbin account, a large following, is likely profiting off the account and fans... And if she wants to get into "professionalism" ... Madames th one who should be expected to be "professional" Nevermind that the kid handled the situation better and more professional than she did.

[@mi-fc1mh]

She’s talking in yea and alr and other stupid slang while the 15yo is actually making sentences and senses lmao talk about professionalism

[@sirkae5322]

@@mi-fc1mh The 15 year old uses "u" and "ur" often

[@lunabat1911]

Artist: Hey I noticed you didn't credit me like I asked, can you do that? Madame: *Is this a personal attack?*

[@vazti]

Madame: Oh god, she's trying to cancel me!

[@minto3522]

@@vazti and as a victim of sexual assault, she shouldn't have told this to a total stranger *proceeds to tell her 100k viewers* and since she lied about a lot of things, she could most possibally lie about that too

[@eh7975]

*And then attempts to leak their number, even thought they are a MINOR*

[@fluffy-moon1949]

madame: o h we l l AHEM TOTALLY TIME FOR DRAMAM BIII-

[@aashycoconut]

Lmao

[@Kralisedra]

"almost like she's not treating this as a commission" like it's a request, with no monetary involvement! Me: *laughs in artist*

[@midnightartist43]

*laughs in anime artist*

[@Thewaterspirit57]

yeah... thats the funny part XD and also the 'unprofessionalism' due to it not involing money

[@gunkgirl]

*laughs in fan artist*

[@jessirocks-yd2eo]

*laughs in "i just painted a teletubby"*

[@squidly3270]

*laughs in cartoon and realistic combo artist*

[@Doodletones]

"The Streisand effect is a phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet." ~Wikipedia

[@V2ULTRAKill]

Heya doodle

[@pinkPinkBlissey242]

The more you know

[@andrewmichael9201]

Wikipedia is not a reliable source

[@Doodletones]

This is... literally just a definition, wdym? XD

[@V2ULTRAKill]

@@andrewmichael9201 wikipedia has a 98% accuracy rate meaning outside of classrooms with pedantic teachers it is a VERY reliable source

[@goodolsammie]

"I would collaborate with CreepShow Art" r/agedlikemilk

[@C3r3b3lluhmmm]

yep

[@futonrevolution7671]

Funny how someone else is still defending their "That didn’t age well." comment about wanting to collaborate with Hopeless Peaches.

[@skythedragon7897]

I've been looking for this comment. Hindsight is funny like that

[@laughableInflection]

The comment about cryaotic too

[@wanderer_808]

​@@laughableInflection yeahhh

[@TheNamesJunkie]

I lost it after "Ma'am this is a Wendys" remark. XD

[@handburgerro6045]

same

[@michaelrodriguez8509]

please, stop using "XD" unironically

[@TheEtherealLuka]

Michael Rodriguez XD

[@TheEtherealLuka]

Michael Rodriguez XD

[@TheEtherealLuka]

Michael Rodriguez XD

[@AnimatedZorox]

This situation is basically having ur mom cook you breakfast and then complaining because its not a 5 star gourmet meal XD

[@chickenandchips1263]

Ponder Sprocket don’t approve them, it’s so annoying!!!

[@biscuitbagels4509]

@@rainbownekokitty7022 >:(

[@DrPlagueReborn]

@@rainbownekokitty7022 Yeah right _liar_

[@leonfergozi]

Gordon Ramsey: I-...

AND FOR FREE WTF

[@TheFlinchyDinosaur]

When you're 16 and go to college but then someone immediately thinks you're a compulsive liar because you say you're 16 and go to college.

[@cjandauntieyaya1446]

Started going to college in my Senior year of High School due to my school district having a new program giving both HS and College credit for college classes. Was legit. Bet Madame was just jelly.

[@virtualgambit577]

In my area we are able to attend college starting at age 14 or 15. It’s not that deep, I don’t know why Madame was so mad about it and claimed a 16 y/o can’t go to college. I’m in the US, plenty of my friends took classes from college, so did I. It was a way to get free college credits before you finished high school...

[@KawaiiiKiwis]

Literally at my high-school as a junior you can go to college with a program called running start so it is completely possible, my friend started it at 15 and is now 16

[@TheFlinchyDinosaur]

@@KawaiiiKiwis My highschool required us to take 20 college credits by graduation

[@KawaiiiKiwis]

@@TheFlinchyDinosaur oh wow, we don't do that here. We don't even have to do any. We have a choice to of course with AP and duel credit

[@pascaleelliott63]

Anyone's response to Madame saying she acts like a child : "She IS a child. What's your excuse?"

[@eaglefan2569]

I understood that reference

[@krystal-animations]

@@eaglefan2569 so did i

[@whatamidoing.6854]

I thought it was Captain Underwear or something It took me 5 minutes to realize it was Steven Universe

[@-_Alina_]

@@whatamidoing.6854 lol

[@whatamidoing.6854]

@@firelily7738 HAHAHAHA (love your Courtney pfp by the way)

[@dantethespoon1087]

This woman must think that every country is like America cause in England, we start college at 16

[@dumbnoodle8327]

Oop

[@deadaccount3859]

There goes the England vs America Difference war. We're everyone is very defensive about their country and very stereotypical about others.

[@dantethespoon1087]

@@deadaccount3859 I'm not being defensive, I'm just saying that the whole "lying about her age" thing didn't make sense to me and the only place I know about with education is America

[@madbustinmatt]

@@dantethespoon1087 I was offered to take college when I was 15 in Denton Texas, USA at UNT (United North Texas) back in 2004. Pretty sure they still have that program too. Although typically the education system here in America sucks. And the general public are just "standardized test scaled" and "attendance is money grants". But there are plenty of exceptions

[@tigerstripedsinger]

@@madbustinmatt nah college is literally the last 2 years of highschool in the UK, then you go to university after. Basically college doesn't mean the same thing in each country Obviously there are some brainiacs that go to uni early but I think that's actually more common in the us than here

[@mythicalgrim7046]

1:02:32 Madame: "I wish the people who deserve to be cancelled GET cancelled" Oh the *irony*

[@Forlorn_Overseer]

Dave says this is ironic (kudos for people who get this reference)

[@tyattdraws571]

Homestuck-

[@Calories_To_Calibers]

We call this the "Onision effect"

[@Forlorn_Overseer]

@Bruhbruhbruhbruhbruh Bruhbruhbruhbruhbruh ah yes a fellow fan of this abomination

[@potpourri565]

I just realized the vid is over 1 hour long because of this comment

[@sleepycowboy18]

>being very hostile to the artist >"I mean well for her" _visibly confused_

[@franziska9260]

*pikachu meme*

[@amys.9069]

Ironic.

[@maskchan5269]

Madame: "I dont want to disrespect her with lies but here have her number teehe ~" Wtf she litterally was prepared to put a minors life potentially at risk, put her family's potentially at risk and overall put her wellbeing at risk by releasing her personal phone number, all because she called her out?! Tf. And by the way she typed it out it sounds like she knew damn well people would take this number, harass her, potentially tell her to harm herself etc etc. All because Madame got called out for not giving credit. I literally have no words. Thank god it was a fake number

[@SoulDevoured]

It wasn't a fake number, it was her real number, but this "unprofessional" 15 year old was smart enough to get it through an app rather than give out her personal cell number.

[@Sus-nf1lq]

Off topic but Omg 707 pfp :D heyy

[@LiterallyInklingGirl]

Yeah but slimurs a horrible liar even though you can disprove their lie

[@urgae9125]

@@LiterallyInklingGirllol what

[@MrAwesomeMatty]

​@@LiterallyInklingGirlLegitimately, nothing Slimurs had ever said about this whole ordeal was proven to be a lie. You are chatting nonsense.

[@shyadri]

"A victim doesn't just tell their sexual assault to a complete stranger." Ignoring the fact that Madame keeps flip-flopping between being friends and not; if that were the case, then Crisis/Suicide/Abuse/Rape Hotlines wouldn't exist in the first place. You know, phone lines were people tell their experiences to COMPLETE STRANGERS to have their voices heard. Madame is so out of it that she either can't make the connection that a fan knowing you went through something similar and wanting to be heard by you is very possible, or she does and doesn't care. It is disgusting to simply dismiss this, when it could possibly be 100% true.

[@whatisthis1958]

It's actually much easier to tell strangers, especially online, in my experience. I don't know why, maybe it's because it hurts less if they don't take it well, or you don't have to look them in the face. Same with mental illness and stuff, though that's just my opinion. It also seems less weighty (?) and less real , less serious, somehow, maybe due to the anonymousity of the internet.

[@nottvarg]

also oversharing is,,,, literally a symptom of trauma

[@shyadri]

@@nottvarg Right? Madame seriously has no idea how these serious topics can affect others, and she expects us to take her seriously? What a joke.

[@shyadri]

@@whatisthis1958 Yeah that makes sense. Even if people get upset (with is a horrible response) you can just get a new account. It is much easier to move on online than in real life. It can be a good way to share your story with someone without facing friends and family. Slimerz probably had a similar mindset plus the fact that she was a fan of Madame.

[@nottvarg]

@@shyadri i can't really comment on the rest cuz i didn't finish the video (had class before i could) but discounting someone's claim of assault because they told you is,,, real shitty

[@SleepyPandaStudio]

What bothers me is that she’s Fifteen and acting more mature than someone older than her. Also- the fifteen year old IS FIFTEEN!! THE SAME AGE AS ME! HOW PROFESSIONAL DO YOU EXPECT HER TO GET?!!

[@nanah846]

especially if she didn’t have a pay pal or any other way to get paid, and didn’t have a good understanding of commissions, madame should’ve known she wasn’t professional and was an amateur artist

[@idk-uu8gi]

Wait she's my age i-

[@sadisticgirl_]

You fell for it. Kids, she wasn't the unprofessional one trust The kid brought up the lack of credit and that bitch brought up her mental health and called her a compulsive liar

[@astronic9979]

people who do animal jam commissions are more professional than madame

[@prosperosmoon]

@@sadisticgirl_ this person in so sad

[@pawcanada]

As a UK resident, I want to clarify that College here is more akin to the last two years of high school, which you can use to get the grades to go to University. The alternative is to stay at Secondary School for what is called "Sixth Form", where you can get the same grades necessary to go to Uni, so no, Madame is incorrect when she likens college in the US to the one in the UK.

[@24kaicy]

Ello us citizen in us. There three ways get college credit first is call ap classes next is ib classes the third is going college directly at same as high. You can start this after winter break if you're GPA is required amount. Minimum age could 14 or 15 So 15 year old going to college is very plausible because she is also going to high school at same time.

[@AmyoftheFlowerField]

@@24kaicy This is true! I took AP courses in high school and my sisters and some friends took college courses their junior and senior year. Granted, they were 16/17, but the idea of a 15 year old taking a college course, especially if they are advanced in a particular subject. ADDITIONALLY, students can test and get placed into college level courses in the united states, if they test out of the highest level of difficulty in the high school area.There are plenty of stories out there about 14 year olds graduating from college or being in college. Additionally, as long as a student is part time, meaning less than 12 credits, they don't even need a GED to be enrolled in college. They could sign up and pay tuition for a single class every, say, night. So as far as we know, it is PERFECTLY PLAUSIBLE for a 15 year old to be in college courses, and even if it's one college course, it takes a lot of preparation for a transition.

[@TotallyNotRosie]

Amy47101 I’m taking an ap course this year! There’s also a highschool program that allows you to take college courses if I’m correct. It’s called middle college?

[@lilowleelani]

I am currently attending an early college high school, where you can take college classes while still doing high-school classes. It’s definitely possible to be 15 and be graduating college at around that age. It may be a different situation for her but from my experience it’s possible.

[@theberrby6836]

Ahh I remember these times :3 Also very informative stiil!

[@venusthebenus]

Let’s also bring up the fact that when Madame said “lol she’s dead” about Marley, she was laughing about a child dying. Marley was 16. What a fucking piece of work.

[@ICEBUNNo]

She’s throwing the “compulsive liar” word around quite a bit. But she really seems like one herself.

[@ut_girl666]

"You are using that word a lot. I do not think it means what you think it means." XD

[@someoriginalname7870]

@@ut_girl666 Do you mean or...?

[@ut_girl666]

Colors & Stuff I mean, I don’t think Ma- *damn* -e is mature enough to use that word, cause she’s kinda one herself. XD. And I’m using that meme. Lmao.

[@imadiva6339]

Ya know, I hate it when people are like "sToP lYiNg", when you're a compulsive liar. Like hun, it's second nature for us, it took me years to break my habit, I STILL AM TRYING TO BREAK IT, being a compulsive liar is like being a compulsive gambler or compulsive drinker. THEY NEED TO BE TREATED THE SAME PLEASE AND THANK YOU 💞

[@smartfellasnn]

@@imadiva6339 tf you mean gambling addiction and not being sober Aren't the same as compulsive lying

[@TacoTuesdayzz]

Omg I hate when I ask for a due date and they say " oh theres no rush, i dont have a due date take your time" I will legit save your project for last if theres "no rush" I have no clue where to place your work among other things accept after I've finished projects that have a date.

[@franst3909]

I actually don't mind waiting, I try not setting a deadline because I really don't like rushing an artist but I know it's frustrating to not be given a timeframe. So usually what I do is ask them "How long will it take you?" So they can set one for themselves fitting their own schedule. However I think the advice Nerd City gave was good too, ask the artist to complete it within two months even if there's no rush so the artist doesn't delay your piece or forget. It's a reasonable timeframe.

[@sharknom8867]

Brianna Wooten Omg yes just be like a date around ___. That way I know when I can finish it and how important it is

[@Garden0flowr]

I dont give a timeframe most of the time because I'm absolutely terrified of asking for anything remotely specific or having expectations of any form due to edgy anime backstory™

[@Tamaki742]

@@Garden0flowr No please, give a timeframe. You might feel like you're pressuring someone but we need it. We don't want to disappoint the commissioners either because we're late in giving the results.

[@cameoshadowness7757]

@@Garden0flowr I understand but you should still give a time frame. Maybe not a tight one if you feel strongly that way but one none of the less. Give it a wide enough one so things are good on both ends. Try giving a few months so there isn't heavy expectations. It makes things better on each end.

[@thxwanderer]

I honestly don't think Slimurs commenting on the video was a "mistake." Plenty of people do that when they have not been credited and like the video said... the person usually fixes it, says "my bad" and moves on. Madame's response was volatile and super gross, even if Slimurs didn't contact her privately. It was never that deep.

[@BreaBabii]

YESSS !! You dropped this 👑

[@insecurebee]

Ikr! Like, why making such a big drama just because she commented? It's not the end of the word kurva [¬_¬]

[@daya-kuracy3539]

Thx Wanderer honestly, I’m 10 minutes in and I’m so done with this girl 🙄 it wasn’t a big deal, she could of just said okay I’ll credit you in the description and that would be the end of the story. But she just had to keep going.

[@GothPappyGrimm]

It seemed like she has this imagine in her head that shes all perfect and couldnt stand anyone saying otherwise specially in public

[@stardoogalaxie9314]

Yeah! I don't think Slimurrs did anything wrong by commenting publicly at all. Artists usually work as quickly as possible when it comes to stuff like lack of credit and the easiest way to contact the creator is via a public forum, where someone is most likely to see it. Even if Madame claims she stops reading her comments a day after uploading.

[@TuesdaysArt]

In the South, people DON'T take SA cases seriously. Someone close to me went to the police and they blamed him for his assault. It isn't farfetched that Slimurs wasn't taken seriously by law enforcement.

[@notreallymagical]

Plus children are taken even less seriously

[@BonkVibin]

I feel like it's unfair to lump all southern places together buuut I can't defend where I live on that matter. They let a serial rap1st go from prison and didn't arrest him when they got more than 5 reports of him going back to his crimes and at one point even got caught red handed (by police officers themselves) with a deadly weapon in hand at one of his victim's house with the intentions of k1lling her/her children or to assault her again. I was close to this case personally as I knew this woman specifically. Don't even get me started on a certain corrupt judge who took bribes-

[@nightmarefanatic1819]

Doesn't happen in the other areas of the country either.

[@ecaterinavisan8178]

What shocked me the most? How this whole drama started instead of Madame just saying in the next video ”Hello guys, I want to start this video by saying the fact I forgot to add in my last video, the credit to the artist who made my new art you see in the video. It was made by X and you can find her my in description bellow!” That would had took like what? 1 minute? But no, instead she had to make a soap opera like story.

[@julien4305]

Im pretty sure Madame knew what she was doing She did all this shit to gain popularity Like she could literally do shitty stuff,then genuinly apologize and make things better and she'll IMIDIETLY have a fucking reputation of a "bad turned good" type of bullshit Ive seen this shit done so many times on deviant art

[@율동-s7v]

@@julien4305 Well, possibly. However, she has scammed her fans multiple times, one for an "onision law suit" where she pocketed the money and now shes doing the same thing for Australia. If you go to her videos its been riddled with shit about the donations. Nobody likes her st this point

[@Syd448]

I totally agree. It would of been so so easy for all of this to be over with and not online like this 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@julien4305]

@@율동-s7vi am aware, but she might actually get sued since its a charity stream and not patreon

[@UnpleasantMirrorWolf]

I don't think anyone, especially KZbinrs, should Commission or Request Artwork if they don't know how the transaction actually works in that type of case.

[@michinyo]

I have been sexually assaulted more than once. I've spoke about it before on tumblr shortly after it happened, because I was still processing everything and trying to figure out how to get out of a harmful situation. I had people say I was lying about what had happen at AGE 24 because people don't talk about assault openly. Also, when I was sexually abused at 12, even CPS closed the case, and I was told I wanted everything to happen. Not only do I believe that the police would dismiss what Slimurz said happen (because police do it OFTEN cause lack of proof and her father could say it's a lie to cover it along with other family members), but I am not surprised Madame would say she's lying cause she's sharing what happened. A lot of people have that view still, despite saying we should SPEAK UP ABOUT OUR ABUSE. Especially as someone who was sexually assaulted before, I find it ABSOLUTELY disgusting for Madame to imply Slimurz was lying. EVEN WORSE, OUTING SLIMURZ'S ATTEMPTED ASSAULT TO TONS OF PEOPLE AGAINST HER PERMISSION. HOW FUCKING SLIMY DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO DO THAT SHIT?!

[@nyandoesthings]

I'm really sorry you weren't believed. I haven't been personally sexually assaulted, but most of the women in my life have. I try to believe the victim, because it's a terrible thing to not be believed about that. My sister tried to commit suicide because she was so scared she wouldn't be believed. It's the fault of hateful people the falsely accuse people. I was falsely accused by someone and she still is trying to be my friend and talks to me all the time. She acts like she never did anything wrong. I can't prove it of course, but her friends tell me that she accused me because I didn't return her romantic feelings towards me. I'm a compulsive liar, I won't deny it. I've been getting better at being truthful. But I wish that everyone could stop telling lies. People who deserve to be believed would be, and those who don't won't wreck any lives.

[@aaaaaaaa-tz7tu]

Oh my God, I'm so sorry you two went through that. I have the luck to have never, but I know a lot of people who have. It sounds absolutely horrible, and I'm so sorry this happened to you. Unless I have a specific reason to distrust the victim, I usually believe them. I know how terrible it feels to be doubted on something so serious, and I'm just- so , so sorry. Stay strong y'all.

[@adeepseafish1238]

So sorry you had to go through that! I hope you’re doing better now, and please stay safe during this time

[@roguewolf7053]

I know right?! Just wish the 15yr old would’ve filled harassment & bullying charges against her so that MAYBE she could learn it’s a serious offense. I’m so sorry for your experience. 😞😞

[@MidnightDreamTides]

Im listening to this video again and realizing something: Madame is claiming that people dont talk abt their SA with strangers/people they just met. And then i remembered something. SA AWARENESS AND THERAPY GROUPS EXIST, WHICH GENERALLY CONSIST OF PEOPLE YOU DONT KNOW OR JUST RECENTLY MET.

[@pondersprocket2274]

WHEEEELLPPP

[@starrycharacter]

Yea also imagine a young or just a impressionable fan of Madame watching that video not knowing that the person they are watching and potentially looking up to is spewing a bunch of BS and then carrying that belief with them unfortunately there are a lot of kids with SA trauma and this kind of mentality that Madame is speaking about really just promotes kids and even adults staying silent and not telling people that they need help

[@swededontknow]

completely unrelated: i love how buff your avatar is, i don’t know if that’s based upon how you look or whatever, but i absolutely love how it looks

[@pondersprocket2274]

Nah, Ponder Sprocket is actually a character that I designed for a comic originally. I used her for my commentaries because she was fun to draw and because her personality matched how I wrote my scripts, but she and I look nothing alike.

[@daddlis]

right?

[@gothbimbo9470]

Kinda like a bouncer!

[@genderlesstoast6633]

Dude saaaaame I fucking love how she looks!

[@emadrewington]

@@gothbimbo9470 club good youtubers, madame isnt aloud.

[@AlexFox-kf9wl]

"Leave me alone! Block me! >:,(" Did she forgot she can just block her herself?

[@ronja7915]

My theory is that if she had gotten Slimurz to block her, she would’ve used that as a yet another accusation, along the lines of “I tried to be the reasonable person with this unprofessional artist but she BLOCKED me!!!”

[@PostMortemAnimations]

SpixBiscuits That is true, she could've used it as a accusation against a minor.

[@svt9924]

SpixBiscuits yea that’s what I thought, I believe she would’ve actually done that if slimurz had blocked her

[@Sinstarclair]

So Unprofessional Amirite

[@Revanbzn]

They always forget. Wonder why

[@NiiGHTBURN]

The fact that she thinks it’s just furries that dislike her *laughs in furry*

[@narararamammily5386]

n i g h t b u r n . *Laughs in weeb* Don’t worry, us weebs hate her too.

[@ManicBeast95]

*laughs in human*

[@bugeyedbitch7953]

*laughs in друг*

[@roborte.o.speedwagon6712]

*laughs in apex predictor*

[@deadaccount3859]

_Laughs in Daily Commenter_

[@silverfire1248]

Side note about PewDiePie, he’s also exceptionally good at giving credit. Any time a song is used in his videos, even in snippets, it’s credited. So exposure from him is almost guaranteed to be a good deal.

[@aashycoconut]

Lmfao ok

[@ponponpatapon9670]

@@aashycoconut is that all you have to say? is that everything your brain is capable of mustering up? are you okay, did something happen to your brain?

[@comedienne_historian]

@@ponponpatapon9670 and in response to a comment posted a year ago! people are the best/worst thing about the Internet.

[@aashycoconut]

@@ponponpatapon9670 Man I was so fucking scared when I saw this reply without context. Thank god it’s just an irony kid

[@EGLollipopped]

I have literally told strangers about my story of being sexually assaulted as a child. My therapist told me that when I had the capability to tell strangers about it, then I was no longer the victim and I was a survivor. It's called moving on with your life, not giving the perp the power over you that they once held and giving yourself back that power. -EDIT- Thank you everyone for the likes. Please drink some water and sit in the sunshine, you're worth it

[@cia1985]

K

[@teaforthepoor]

tbh though it honestly depends on the individual. i'm a csa survivor and i saw that telling complete stranger about my story was easier than telling the people i'm close to because the personal connection isn't there. it's like talking to a brick wall for me. but i can understand how it's different for you and how it no longer gives power to the assaultor because that is the most important thing when it comes to trauma

[@thilsiktonix]

I know lots of people do this, but good job on that. That's so amazingly strong of you, and I respect it a _lot._ Much love! ^^

[@ElloFantasy]

Then there's also the situation where people are able to talk about their problems basically to anyone, but on an emotional level, they've created such a strong shield in their subconscious that they can literally tell someone anything, but not be able to get close to anybody (or very rarely they can) with the thought process that "There's nothing I can say that will hurt me anymore than life already has" This from personal experience, not a survivor of sexual assault, but I have faced some tough situations which I've...shared with complete strangers a few times. The situations haven't made me a mute, but have made it very very hard to connect with anybody. So yeah, people can be effected by things in different ways.

[@i5m5bob]

bet you liked it

[@oldusty523]

“It’s fair game in my eyes!” What... what *eyes*

[@bananakitofinternetclan8350]

Lol so true

[@illicitbike2782]

*illuminati theme plays*

[@imblack6953]

*EYES*

[@moomoneyy1825]

I'm starting to think that anyone who says "I'm the Leafy Is Here of ____" is someone you probably should be worried about.

[@KirbyKips]

Taylor Mooney I don’t even understand what the heck this means. I don’t know much about the KZbinr and from what I have heard, he’s not that good of a guy.

[@PlasticKnight]

KirbyKips he was known for edgy content, most ppl who copy him also copy his attitude and comedy style which ends up completely killing their reputation, exactly the same as what happened to leafy

[@KirbyKips]

@@PlasticKnight Yeah, I'm the same as Ponder as all I've ever heard about the guy is that he's always involved in some controversy, but never knew what the controversies were about. But did something actually happen and kill him off for good? I also don't understand why anyone would want to call themselves the LeafyisHere of [this] community. I get copying his attitude or style, but flat out admitting to being like him is like painting a target on your reputation.

[@PlasticKnight]

KirbyKips leafys downfall was basically because of the content cop video on him that called out his hypocrisy and the fact that he usually targeted smaller KZbinrs with the majority of them being minors, as well as not crediting fan artists (and disappeared off of the internet when his nudes got leaked but that was unrelated to his drop in subs) But also yeah calling yourself the “leafy” of a community makes you look a little dumb. Most ppl who know about leafys downfall know why it happened so associating with him is just bad. I get they wanna be like “I’m edgy like these older youtubers were” but they never think of the connotations of it Btw I don’t remember to the full extent of what leafy has done, but the content cop on him is a good reference if you wanna explore old callouts

[@KirbyKips]

@@PlasticKnight Oh I see. So Madame wasn't kidding when she was saying she's also a Leafy clone. Good grief. People should really find a new KZbinr to base themselves off of.

[@gayslinky5236]

Also when Madame said "fine, whatever I was gonna give you a shout out but I guess not anymore" that's actually a tactic of making the person apologise so they get this thing you've taken from them, and it's usually used when the person saying this was never gonna give them it in the first place but they want them to apologise. Sorry I hope this is worded okay, I'm kinda stupid and I struggle explaing things

[@nightynightshade]

1 word: Gaslighting.

[@Aerials135]

i agree, i think she just wanted any excuse not to give credit. isn't it standard to give credit regardless of whether the art is paid for? but she twists it, like "oh hey you were rude so now i'm gonna steal your art" basically.

[@stormeslikeswellness]

@@Aerials135 exactly, like even if u paid for it and talked about it, it’s kinda like a no brainer to give credit. Even if that person didn’t tell u to credit them u should still give them credit.

[@Aerials135]

@@stormeslikeswellness that's what i thought! it's common sense to give credit in my opinion. even if she had paid to use the art, she'd be ripping off the artist if she didn't still give her credit. & if i was the artist, i would've expected that in addition to the shoutout they discussed because that just sounds like an extra bonus thing, and even in context it sounded like that's what madame had offered it as

[@puppetpawss]

My dad does this almost CONSTANTLY and it's the most annoying shit ever

[@herecomedatboi9646]

Clowns : exist Ponder: I'm about to end this man's whole career.

[@KostisPlayz]

*Joker:* _Am I a joke to u?_

[@whatnoisedoesaclownmake7646]

*actual clowns:* am i a joke to you

[@KirbyKips]

MissDeadInside IT Clown: Am I a joke to you?

[@alexbluer]

Ponder: You Are Not a Clown. You Are The Entire Circus.

[@notyourdaughter666]

Madame your username nearly gave me a heart attack

[@needtoknow29]

The fact that whole thing turned from a simple misunderstanding to full on gaslighting and harssment against 15 year old. This is why I love/hate the internet.

[@scaledwolf]

Love hate relationship, aye?

[@andy_B_goode]

*-Master Plan-* 1) Send Fan Art 2) Hope for job offer

[@pondersprocket2274]

Clearly we're working with top tier villain schemes right here.

[@lillyuwu4054]

3) profit

[@BeanTheDino]

*stonks*

[@ut_girl666]

XD we have new cards for Cards Against Humanity. LMAO.

[@ut_girl666]

@@lillyuwu4054 CAH. (Cards Against Humanity.)

[@ArtisticallySpoken]

God, there is so much gaslighting going on in the conversation with Madame and the artist. Also, "I removed the credit because I don't like how they act" or whatever isn't a valid excuse to remove someone's credit. You had a transaction with that person, and if you're continuing to use their work you should still continue to credit them regardless of their passed actions - or use your own work. Edit: watched further into this video. God she is so toxic, how does she have fans?

[@juni2583]

THATS like misgendering someone because they're being rude

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@juni2583 id say its a little diffrent there isnt any transaction involved in two people talking. and yeah ive seen some real monsterous bunch of people who say vile crap that deserve to have it spat back at them. of course there is a scale of things someone simply rude or standofish in no way justifys it HOWEVER if they start slinging slurs for instance....

[@mykaruest3620]

John Lennon syndrome, Madame has a great public face that's a cover for a a terrible behind-the-scenes monster. Except that John Lennon could hide behind-the-scenes stuff until mostly after his death while the internet pulls it on blast now. God, would the Beatles happen today with John's terrible behavior?

[@xtrasmolbean]

Nobody: Slimurz: H- Madame: OHHHH MY GOD YOU'RE SO UNPROFESSINAL!!11!! LITERALLY!! CREDIT?? ASKING IN A COMMENT SECTION??? HOW D A R E !! Even Leafy's career lasted longer then hers lmfao

[@midnight-hq4zg]

Why do I feel like I've seen you before?? 🤔

[@xtrasmolbean]

@@midnight-hq4zg don't know lol

[@lilactown9778]

W H E E Z E---

[@pufflord4230]

what career?

[@wolfspeed2000]

You just made me realize Madame is on the fast-track to becoming a professional Karen.

[@Kichiip]

28:01 "YOU DONT HAVE TO CREDIT A COMMISSION" im going to vomit in my cereal god

[@labaccident2010]

THEY SAID WHAT

[@insecurebee]

No, not the cereal!!

[@kn-jt9dj]

Pls leave the cereal alone

[@金カトゥラ]

Even tho it’s year now I like you profile picture

[@Closet_lol]

People who think that "yOU Don'T NEeD tO CrEDiT a CoMMisSioN" probably eat popcorn with a spoon and draw the sun where it sets.

[@kaiser9598]

>”This artist is unprofessional!” >”TAKE THEIR NUMBER! Do what you want :)” Unprofessional you say?

[@sappy_]

"I've never talked with someone SO unprofessional" What do you expect? They're a teenager! Trying to figure out business and correspondence at that age is probably pretty hard.

[@Nublet864]

A lot more kids nowadays graduate at least a year early in the US. Hell one kid in my city went to college as an 11 year old, not taking college courses on the side like straight up attendings. It should also be noted that graduating early is no indication of maturity since being able to answer questions about math or writing a college level essay is a different kind of intelligence than the one connected to maturity. She could even say someone is too dumb to go to college right, what kind of a leafy clone is she? Also holy shit how shitty do you have to be to try to accuse someone of lying about their sexual assult over FUCKING "commision" credit!! Like imagine lying to your audience trying to dismiss the validity of someone's sexual assault *instead* of putting their fucking Instagram handle in the description.

[@Toastedmint]

Nublet864 I agree I recently turned 17, and because I went to an alternative school I will be starting collage in December, but even tho I qualify for collage doesn’t mean that I qualify for..audlting I guess, I still make mistakes and things and as a person that wants to be an artist and make it my career this situation is really opening my eyes to mistakes I’ve made in the past and how I should do my commissions in the future.

[@newneen25]

My best friend is almost 3 years younger than me, she got into highschool early AND graduated along side me. I love, admire, and respect her greatly for her dilignents (and as a person in general) but our age gap constantly comes out as a noticeable difference between us. She's sensitive and vulnerable about her self. Always letting her emotions make her do dumb things, just like I had a few back. Just cause someone young can come off mature or is amazingly intelligent doesn't mean they'll be able to act like an adult with every challenge or situation.

[@Nublet864]

@@Toastedmint Yo I'm 20 and I don't qualify for adulting lol. That's a whole thing though maturity in itself is a divided thing there's, the whole independence aspect the emotional aspect, ability to resist peer pressure ect. Madame's whole "She's obsessive and childish" point is just so bad. Hell I'm willing to bet that the reason the artist "went on and on" about Madame to Madame's friends is because she was got nervous about talking to someone she didn't know and she decided to take about the only thing they had in common, being friends with Madame.

[@Tetodash]

Wait 11 years old? How? I know some kids can take college classes in high school but actually being in college as an 11 year old doesn’t make any sense to me.

[@shiranuifirefox7897]

@@Tetodash nah, it happens. My mom would sometimes tell me about a 14 year old boy who was in her college way back.

[@mysryuza]

For a 20 year-old like me, Madame doesn't realize that exposing someone's personal information endangers a MINOR to PREDATORS. Either that or she KNOWS but doesn't care because "m-muh profeshonalisum" among other bullcrap Also, I like your art, Ponder! ^u^

[@Tamaki742]

Which for someone who (scammed) collected money to sue Onision (a legit predator) from her fans, is very hypocritical.

[@theholysalt18]

Ha, but you see this is the internet and for some reason, weird shit doesn’t get in much trouble But in seriousness, you’d have to have the balls to do this especially if you do to a fan, Fucking asshat, especially that you are harassing a fucking child who is a fan of yours and only wants to be credited not even paid, just fucking credited. Why the fuck do people like these exist, *sigh*

[@jirameow4849]

I agree. I still think it was messed up that she gave her number to random strangers, so called her “friends”, she was so lucky that madame had her fake number. If she didn’t have that fake number she would be harassed every single day, probably.

[@confusedaf1112]

Not to mention had it not been Slimurs's number, Madame could've literally just directed harassment at some random person who didn't even know wtf was going on.

[@confusedaf1112]

@@theholysalt18 The human species is de-evolving.

[@teaforthepoor]

I'd like to note that I LITERALLY started college at the late age of thirteen due to a college program that was available that had it so the students can get their graduates degree AND associates. Although these programs can start later, there are High School programs that give college and job opportunities. And this is in the US. So, shut the fuck up, Madame. (Also, anyone who claims that someone lies about their sexual assault without evidence and to try and shove it in a pile of harmful claims are absolutely toxic and should NEVER be trusted until they learn their lesson and actually change from their mistake)

[@isabellap.364]

can confirm, had the same program. I went to high school in middle school and college in high school. Madame should google "early college high schools"

[@sallydagger19]

Yeah same, I went to an early college so I started college at the age of 15 as a junior. The exact same as Slimmurs. Madame needs to broaden her horizons when it comes to college stuff because it’s never static.

[@JuriAmari]

One of my classmates started college at 16 while most of us were 17/18. It’s totally possible. Considering Madame was older, she should’ve taken the higher road and just gave her credit. That’s all slimmurz was asking for!

[@leooliver7293]

i know this drama is super old, but how could she claim that slimur wasnt intelligent/mature enough to be going into college while being smart enough to manipulate her and predict her actions to cancel her?

[@GamingWithJazz]

I'm super late. Clearly, Madame hasn't heard of AP/honors classes (which can count as college prep) I figured Slimmurs was preparing to take advanced classes.

[@MsUnamusedNerd]

She’s blaming the entire art community for her “predicament“ it’s really sad.

[@arthoniandefender4163]

Yeah, and after a few dozen videos about the same subject and this one, this is really starting to piss me off. And the fact that she changed the name of her channel doesn't help either. I honestly wondered if she is worried about the KZbin situation.

[@milou1975]

I love how throughout the video ponder is slowly going mad over madames idiocy

[@pondersprocket2274]

Pretty par for the course for me, honestly.

[@IShipYouNot]

@@pondersprocket2274 it's genuinely what I come to your videos for. Ponders a riot and I love listening to you point out the stupid with all the rage of an angry elephant in a giant hamster ball.

[@lendag861]

Isn't Madame also the person who's potentially scamming people out of their money because she claimed to be suing Onion Boy? Sounds like a sketchy person overall.

[@MarshieGoat]

Is that the same Madame? Damn I wanna know-

[@angel-ts1lz]

@@MarshieGoat She is.

[@blankuser987]

yeah and she used that money to buy a trashy looking $2000 bag that goes bad in a few years since it was made out of sheep ( i think?) skin

[@yeah89347]

she acting like it’s a commission boo you didn’t pay a cent for it

[@knasigrackare3296]

i like how madame called slimurz “unprofessional” yet she kept blaming slimurz for a small mistake she made, even after slimurz apologised.

[@lemonmeat]

especially when slimurs was literally 15-16 at this time

[@LiterallyInklingGirl]

And then threatened their safety by leaking their phone number and telling their audience they were a bad person so she could have been spammed or swatted and falsely reported. Madames so dumb

[@what.a_man7725]

ma’am, this is a wendy’s.

[@whatnoisedoesaclownmake7646]

Ma'am,👩👩 this 👁👄👁is a wendy's💅💅

[@lovedella6483]

oh hey it's you, hey

[@what.a_man7725]

Lovedella omg hi

[@seniormoros_rose6402]

What the fuck kinda Wendy's has a answering machine, What do I say I wanna burger rger tomorrow??

[@monicaraybrandt]

who's peko

[@facelessfigure7985]

"Ma'am this is a Wendy's" Ponder your combination of sarcasm and humour are fucking hilarious and the wait is always worth it.

[@table2.0]

Oof, Cryaotic being referenced in this is something that hits different now XD

[@TheRealizer367]

Literally heard the reference, then checked comments to see if it was noticed too;;

[@dollykumo2959]

why may i ask ?

[@chezborg]

what happened?

[@table2.0]

@@chezborg hes a creep, look it up

[@bigbeefy1]

same with creepshowart!

[@CryFry]

Anyone who seriously calls themselves a "leafy clone" should be avoid at all cost. Yeesh.

[@vaalarah]

her bio on KZbin currently states, proudly, that she is a "professional cyberbully". Yeah, she needs to be avoided.

[@Tigerdazzledash]

it's a way for when people call her a leagy clone she can be like 'HAHA! I already made fun of myself for it!"

[@megajebac]

Cry Fry my name doesnt count... right? (I dont shit talk people btw)

[@birdiehouse143]

*I know this is old* but she once got a lil upset over someone calling her a leafy clone... but then made merch where she's dressed as leafy

[@ladessakeltner8384]

Oooh, so this brand of polished, lipstick on a pig, parasitic sewer leech horse shit content is trying to make a comeback, huh? Two words for youtubers: squash it.

[@Voxagra]

Take a shot every time Madame says "unprofessional" It is so annoying to hear her use that word despite being more unprofessional and immature of the two involved.

[@duckietheduck]

If leafy's word was "literally" hers is "unprofessional"

[@ICEBUNNo]

I can’t, I’d die from alcohol poisoning the first 20 minutes.

[@InvaderBB]

I took so many shots my blood is now alcohol. Wtf madame.

[@aimeeharding8097]

There’s so many holes in Madame’s story it’s looking like slices of Swiss cheese 🧀

[@aimeeharding8097]

And also by the way, your really cool. Art style wise and the verbal ass-beating wise. 🙂

[@theotherkimmy6232]

And that’s where you’re wrong because *a block of Swiss cheese* would have less holes than her story.

[@4x3ll3x2]

But that would also mean there’s no cheese, and it’s just holes in the air.

[@theotherkimmy6232]

That_one_Weird_human exactly. Her story is just hot air

[@scrubadubdubdub]

Where's the swiss cheese again?

[@BB-vz2mm]

The way you investigate and try to understand what happened from both sides is actually something many commentary youtubers don't do. It's so enjoyable to see the way you do things.

[@dreamybombstudios724]

Ahhh she's my favorite commentary channel

[@jaiden8948]

Nobody: Madame: "pRoFeSsIoNlIsm" "cOmMiSsIon" "fAbRicAtIon"

[@insecurebee]

I legit read commisions as communisum...

[@Kappa-o1g]

“ApPaLlEd”

[@discodetectiive]

hey! dont bully her, she can’t help it that those’re the only words in her vocabulary! (/sarcasm)

[@aliasfinch3210]

Lmao true. Using words that in theory sound nice but don’t apply to your argument legit just make you sound dumber

[@yeah89347]

who taught this woman big words

[@animuauntie]

It's laughable how easily this could've been avoided. But if people didn't constantly pull middle school shit, where would half of KZbin be? Also the idea that she's the "female leafy" is giving me some content cop nostalgia.

[@BEEDRILL303]

“ I had to wait 2! Weeks! For stills “ oof 2 weeks is so damn fast! Especially since the quality of the stills is so good, if she has asked any other person that used still commissions she would have known that 2 weeks was way fast. OTL.

[@BEEDRILL303]

I know multiple ppl that were taking collage courses while also going to high school it’s actually pretty fucking common, she’s so stupid damn.

[@kirbyvirgo]

Madame: You can't use the excuse that you're a 15 year old!! Also Madame: I was a 14 year old girl!!

[@Comfortdoll]

I heard someone just added the word MADAME to the urban dictionary to be a synonym for scamming or stealing, lol

[@id10cyy]

lesson of the day: *never name your channel madame.*

[@franziska9260]

LEGEND

[@ICEBUNNo]

Did you see she changed her channel name btw? Like that’ll hide what she’s done lol

[@yoylejuice]

HOLY SHIT

[@ethereal4037]

oh wow

[@Purpura-kuro]

“She can’t go to college, she lives in the US” Me: *laughs in best friend being in early college*

[@Aldersnap]

Madame: "I don't want to work with you anymore!!" Also Madame: "It's mine so I might still use it..."

[@nanah846]

Maya Ziman it’s disgusting how she claims it’s hers when it’s actually not. All she needed to do was give credit and maybe all this shit wouldn’t have happened. Smh she’s so toxic.

[@Kat-pm3kd]

@@nanah846 1. Didn't hold up her end of the deal of the payment, being credit and exposure. 2. Did not buy the product as she did not pay. 3. Did not create it herself and cut off ties with the artist, not wanting to have anything to do with her anymore. Yeah she definitely does not own those images, this is scamming and theft.

[@aharrypotterfan5951]

Krispy Aly they were saying madame is toxic and disgusting

[@Kat-pm3kd]

@@aharrypotterfan5951 i know thats what i was also saying agreeing with them

[@McChicken03]

It’s so cringe to hear Madam using the word “Furry” like that makes people bad or stupid. “Guys! People who dress in animal costumes as a hobby are saying I’m lying! 😱😱😱” ✨connotation✨

[@mangledfoxy2052]

Ikr? The people who call furries toxic and cringe tend to be toxic and cringe themselves, IMO

[@transsnack]

Cringe culture died off in 2019. Since people just insist on trying to dig it back up, for some reason.

[@schemesthefox1255]

I’m cool with furry jokes (even though they’re pretty unfunny now) but using it like that is just…. Weird

[@teletubbiesharvest5615]

people who use furry as an insult are so stupid, furry stuff is literally so cool looking they gotta be delusional to think it's a bad thing

[@cymk_is_stuck]

Me: oh this doesn't seem so bad! Madame: literally never talk to me again Me:oh

[@blgdoesthings4122]

WHOLE 👏 ASS 👏 MOOD 👏

[@rainbownekokitty7022]

Proof Madame is innocent: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3_YnYZpZ5l5rdk

[@elementalfenix9470]

@@rainbownekokitty7022 Stop spamming

[@egon2499]

@@rainbownekokitty7022 Where's Thanos when we need him.

[@MelodyRose96]

You know, Madame acts almost EXACTLY how my bullies in high school used to act. Being a special ed kid myself back then, the way she talks about and treats that poor SpecEd. boy reminds me of my own experiences of how those bullies used to talk about and make fun of me. Even though those same bullies would compliment my art and ask me to draw for them(I did, but I would draw them in horrible situations/being murdered by Pyramid Head, which incurred more bullying and them going to the staff but that's a unpleasant story for another day). Thankfully, they never got me on camera. But even though Madame would like to make it seem like she grew and moved on from that behavior, this entire situation just proves to me that she didn't. Especially about how she didn't try to talk her friend down about putting that video on the internet, even though she knew it was a bad idea. She harassed and nearly doxxed a fucking 15 year old, she clearly hasn't moved on from being a school bully.

[@Add183]

Melody Rose when did she mock a spec Ed kid? Yeah....I’m done with her

[@Sammyribbitribbit]

When Ponder gets angry, I legit feel scared and anxious. Ponder’s fury is capable of making people who isn’t suffering under that fury feel like they are. Makes me think twice before pissing off Ponder. Don’t piss of Ponder.

[@bigbraintime207]

It's almost arousing to women with cool muscles, but then I remeber, "Why would I want someone older, who've I've just started watching, and is a KZbinr, plus that's weird, I'm a greysexual, and you promised yourself basically an 'Artemis hunters vow of eternal chastity' lol-"

[@dungeonsanddragonsanddrive2902]

_Echo_ Mei_ What?

[@Tamaki742]

@@bigbraintime207 The fuck?

[@kaptainsalty7335]

_Echo_ Mei_ um. TMI, much???

[@shsluwu8256]

@@bigbraintime207 hun, sweetie, love, baby, tmi.

[@sheepleweeple9822]

I love how passionate you got about defending this young girl. I only just turned 16 and it can really help to know that there are people out there who would be willing to defend young people who have been wronged. Thank you

[@mr.meloetta1939]

Why can't the whole "not respecting artists at all" thing just die already? Seriously the entitlement of people like Madame just makes no sense, pictures on the internet are worth alot more than they think. But no it's okay to not credit because "tHEy'Re UnPRofEsIONaL". Good video.

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

Oh no, a 15 year old is unprofessional, better slander then

[@InsanityVirus]

One day it'll die. ATM though, artists still have to deal with their job "not being a real job" and "why do I have to pay for this when I can just draw it myself?" and "you were unprofessional so I'm not going to give you credit and try to ruin your whole fucking life and end your whole damn career"

[@TC70]

It isnt a real job, art in the real world isnt as applicable as you guys make it seem. There are jobs for it, but most are hard to find, and or most people want already celebrity or high reputation artists to fill those rolls

[@TC70]

Akinning something you drew with colored pencils to worth something equal to a piece of furniture for example. It isnt a real job, your contributing nothing to the real work other than a piece of paper or jpeg with some drawings thar could be amazing or horrible

[@TC70]

I only speak outside of the situation based on other artists, on the situation, its the 15 year olds fault for trusting someone on the internet. Most of the time you cant

[@DinaNorlund]

OMG I was just watching this because... ya know, drama can be entertaining and I did not expect my name to pop up haha! Honestly, I would shout you out because I do digital as well but I do get your point

[@luckster6255]

55:49 "I don't have the heart to lie about someone, I'd much rather dox them." Yes Madame, you are *clearly* such a virtuous soul. :/

[@warriorgirl1220]

on a completely unrelated note, watching the laces be drawn and colored was so weirdly satisfying

[@MintyZedGrimes]

I ran out of music to listen to and went to the homepage AND THIS WAS THERE LIKE A GODSEND

[@avajones2648]

Minty Zed Grimes OMFG SAME

[@BtsArmy-sv4xd]

Epic

[@aquavertihama7367]

Imagine giving a fifteen year old a panic attack on a platform that they have very strong ties to

[@lukyyuki3290]

"We would have long calls, like 6 hours long...... but I barely knew her" ...okay.

[@robotjam3238]

Notice how Madame uses "but okay" or "but alright" repetitively and how Slimurs is constantly apologizing. Madame uses "but okay" and "but alright" to shift the blame more onto Slimurs.

[@lisatipman9542]

how does madame say she lied about her age just because she’s going to college in a year? the middle college program (college during high school, where you earn a degree) is getting increasingly popular and is being provided to more and more students.

[@wolfspeed2000]

I used a program like that and was wondering that when she first said it. The entry age for mine was 16.

[@dovescribbles7888]

or she might be in a country where college is 15/16 like England

[@septicaemia5699]

@@dovescribbles7888 THANK YOU! YES THAT IS CORRECT!

[@oddbaii6322]

“Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s” I know this is a serious video, but that little bit at the beginning gave me a quick wheeze :D

[@lizunok8058]

Fun fact: college prep can be done several years before college I had to go to open days, and figure stuff out up to 2/3 years before I actually went to uni. So I dunno,

[@solariumy190]

Totally! In my school we have a college prep for 10th graders where they literally go to college and as seen as a college student!

[@shigarakitherat6483]

@@solariumy190 Yeah same, 10th grade and college prep

[@lonelyfox7778]

24:08 "Madame explaining the situation to a third party [Creepshow Art]" Ah yes. That aged about as well as milk, huh. Welp, I guess birds of a feather flock together, eh?

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

Tbh, when CSA was outed, my mind immediately went to Madame. Both of them try to appear sweet and supportive by being aggressively vocal about injustice, except in the end it turned out both of them were putting on a facade to garner fans who would defend them and to get away with their obsession with drama and harassing more talented people. People like these two are basically drama vacuums; they address drama to pat themselves on the back, and need it in their private lives to feel like the victims. It’s a tragic example of people who are too dependent on attention to use the internet healthily.

[@Need2disconnect]

I honestly didn’t know about the denial of sexual assault. That’s just disgusting.

[@ninjafrog6966]

Madame took leafy’s business model exactly Attacking children while constantly repeating herself over and over again

[@Dreamm-Cattcher]

NinjaFrog6 let’s not forget she also has his ability of not crediting people

[@SparDanger]

I think she goes after kids because she knows adults can file counter-claims and are more aware of contract law.

[@imperfect_star8025]

✨ *It doesn’t matter if the artist is a shit person or if you don’t like them! If you use their art you MUST credit them!* ✨

[@megamaggotman7025]

Drama/commentary channels use the art of who they are talking about and dont credit them at all...

[@megamaggotman7025]

@SHADYBICH :OOOOOOO9

[@scp-phenomenon014]

Even I credit my ex-friend for a commission he made for me, and i hate that guy with a burning passion xd

[@megamaggotman7025]

@@scp-phenomenon014 cred

[@mi-fc1mh]

EXACTLY

[@dumbnoodle8327]

>be me >get free art >don't credit artist >real angery hours >flip story over > *_unprofessional_*

[@aharrypotterfan5951]

dumbnoodle you forgot fabrications

[@EmoRiverGirl]

Also Marely was a TEEN as well when she passed away. She mocked a kids death. maDAMN is wild.

[@EmoRiverGirl]

Oh. MaDAMN is a local for me. HECK DUDE

[@umok8433]

EXACTLY

[@whatteamwildcats4033]

@@Lemonade-u9o I'm assuming omg's friend my heart hurts just thinking about it

[@insecurebee]

wat

[@avajones2648]

I hate people that be like Good person: I’m very sorry, I should’ve done better Absolute scrub: **keeps going on about how they were wrong**

[@crazykittygirl3508]

And the one when they see swearings : The one is OK : holy fuck,that is a lot of swears The one that is an ABSOLUTE fucking strict on YT rules : PleAse DoNt SwEar ItS ILLEGAL GO TO HELL

[@francisthe_artist]

That was seriously the one thing that annoyed me about madames messages to slimmurs the most!

[@lynnclaywood4043]

I'm still bothered just by?? madame repeating every other word in that chat??? its like she had one thing to say and kept saying it over and over again aaaaaaagh

[@omegathehalfskeleton1608]

That, my friend, is not only rubbing salt into the wound, but also shooting yourself in the foot. *dear god madame does love doing that-*

[@coolycelebi4797]

iKR

[@milostrawmaw5785]

Madame:"they harrased me and made me have to wait 2 weeks for the stills!" Madame:*whispers*btdubs here's her phone number

[@spinel6786]

at this point your channel is like one of those cartoons with ridiculous villains and ponder is like the hero that just body slams them out of existence with facts and memes JNCERNFGWJKNRG

[@stevjiro]

Slimurs: “here take this art and give me a shout out imma go now” Madame: “..Heh..”

[@ArendAlphaEagle]

"I don't have it in my heart to fabricate a story back." -Madame Well that's clearly a lie.

[@nanah846]

ArendAlphaEagle she claims people are compulsive liars when she actually seems like the compulsive liar

[@aharrypotterfan5951]

I read this as celery a lie-

[@Kappa-o1g]

Madamn: well yes, but actually n- Ponder: -stops maDAMN- *YES*

[@theveganduolingobird7349]

I’ve never heard someone be hypocritical about every single word they say Complains about unprofessionalism but is unprofessional. Calls her a liar while literally lying for 15 minutes straight. Imagine getting free work from a minor and complaining they don’t have the work credit of a 30 year old business woman