The Fake Studio Ghibli Artist in "La Niña y La Farsa"

[@apocalypserising1026]

"My uncle works at Nintendo" type situation

[@trixxart777]

I was the first American to work on Sonic/ref

[@Lover_of_ebrietas]

Broooo that dude us nuts​@@trixxart777

[@ZurielKhemra]

"my dad works at animal jam" headquarters xd

[@soffissweetcorner4585]

​​@@trixxart777 your mother must be very proud

[@Alam_Gutz]

on steroids

[@vincentthesnom7903]

I immediately knew she was lying when she said Hayao Miyazaki “affectionally nicknamed her the Colombian.” Miyazaki. The guy who’s memed for how cynical he is. The guy who walked out of his own son’s film to smoke a cigarette and called his son’s movie bad. THAT Miyazaki? I looked into it and even in a work relationship that’s lasted 11 films(Joe Hisashi) he’s described as emotionally distant. I doubt he’d ever affectionately nickname someone he met 3 times.

[@Madjichen]

Miyazaki can be quirky at times but no, he would never take a liking to some newbie from across the world lmao.

[@gerdalapyte582]

the only way I see Miyazaki giving some random animator a nickname is if he called her 'the Colombian' because he didn't bother knowing her name and she interpreted that as a nickname 😅

[@Mafon2]

He did it to spite Goro :--D.

[@GaetorCreation]

people are way too nice towards Miyazaki that man is known to break new, young and aspiring animators

[@enderkatze6129]

​@@gerdalapyte582that would have been my Interpretation too. Being called by my nationality exclusively almost seems derogatory.

[@oftheriverr]

No animator works ALONE on an entire scene. Even in Japan. Storyboarding, rough animation, cleaning and coloring are all SEPARATE JOBS. There is no such thing as "illustrating" a scene. Sincerely, an animation student.

[@unturned6066]

The concept art, even for singular scenes, story boarding, rough sketches to show the movement, line-artists for clean lines, background art, coloring the characters, coloring the background, shading the characters, shading the background, polishing off... all of these are individual tasks. TF she means she did it all, with those skills? The real question is why those journalists ran the story 😂

[@VanAkita]

Girl what? Acrylics? Watercolors? Copic markers? In the era of 2020s? Everything from Ghibli is digital animation after spirited away, they just use similar processes to traditional animation , which is why it looks traditional. Another clue that this girl had no idea what she was talking about.

[@vivintaylor2170]

Exactly!! Studio Ghibli developed their own 2D Animation software, which has a free version available online!! (OpenToonz) I'm amazed she didn't do the very basic skim of a google search on Studio Ghibli- and about especially about Hayao Miyazaki- after her lie got out of her inner circles.

[@untitled-gv3qp]

I'm nowhere near an animator and I could've figured that out. It's so weird that she decided to make such a serious claim and not even look up anything on animation or even how ghibli films are made.

[@anapple6912]

i thought the background would be drawn in real life then the animation done in digital.

[@VanAkita]

@anapple6912 I don't think they have really drawn traditional backgrounds in ages. Compare the backgrounds in Nausicca and Totoro to everything after Ponyo. If they do, they still have to refine them to look consistent with the digital animation. Her claim that what she drew needed minimal retouching was total bs and was only there for her to boast that she was that good.

[@sanjurosama]

​@@VanAkitaNot that it makes Fernandez any less of a fraud but in the The Boy and the Heron documentary, the animators did still use pencils and paper.

[@SlippyBitz]

“it was like a test” so… A big studio like Studio Ghibli… decided to test a Colombian woman… who wasn’t on the team… by making her draw one third of a movie??? THAT was the fabled “test” she thought people would believe???

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

My brain hurt when she said that it was "like a test" no chance in hell pookie

[@concordiaharmony2302]

Said it in stream earlier, ill say it again. The moment she said that Miyazaki affectionately called her "the Columbian" made me squint really hard. I dont think that man would compliment his own son let alone a random animatorm

[@Jynxxx5]

Yeah I’m pretty sure he was unimpressed by a whole MOVIE his son made 😭

[@MooneyBabbler]

I mean that also just doesn’t sound like a compliment in general. At theoretical best it’s completely neutral, and at worst incredibly rude (to put it mildly).

[@concordiaharmony2302]

@@Jynxxx5 to be fair, the two movies his son headed was Tales of earthsea... and Earwig and the witch.

[@ennipumpkin]

@@concordiaharmony2302Also he directed up on poppy hill and I know he didn’t do the screenplay but like… that movie left such a weird impression on me. ”You’re my brother but I still love you!” like seriously, is that whole plot not kinda weird?? This isn’t really related but I’ve just never gotten to talk about it xD

[@thanatoast]

​@@concordiaharmony2302 From up on poppy hill was good

[@ennipumpkin]

… How in the hell does she not know what a storyboard is??? Like I think anyone with the slightest knowledge of how films are created would know. Even for a beginner artist that seems like pretty common knowledge don’t you think?

[@artpathie9864]

Especially when she says she also does comic book work, which, *are literal storyboards*. I've been taught the difference between panel sketching and animation storyboarding is nigh nonexistant, you just do more of those for each shot of an animation.

[@zombiecat5019]

The funniest thing Is the líes Is was a comercial thing for You the company who she Is worke it . I

[@CEOofTired]

Anybody that's an actual artist would know that a storyboard is REQUIRED for all processes of Animation, period lol.

[@infsm27]

​@@CEOofTiredi dont use storyboards

[@LiterallyInklingGirl]

@@infsm27 it would be helpful to use one if you wanna

[@table2.0]

Imagine accusing a massive studio of making one individual woman animate 30mins of a feature length animated movie. What part of that did she think was believable, exactly?

[@thelonleyUchiha1]

I think she was hoping that by her saying she was “preyed upon” she was hoping people would just take that at her word cause how hard the industry can be so if ghibli by chance caught on and called her out that she didn’t do what she claimed she could just say they were lying to not get in trouble for exploitation….she didn’t think this through

[@Madjichen]

​@@thelonleyUchiha1Right. I find it hilarious cause her claiming that she created 25K drawings? I get your grift girl but do you not know how unrealistic that sounds to believe your lie realistically?

[@thelonleyUchiha1]

@@Madjichenit helps when you have no clue how animating works lol

[@madmanarrivednow]

Being not credited actually happened to me in my first job. First it was a bummer, then I saw the finished product and I was glad. I was paid. I had an NDA, I actually saved my scenes in a file, so I can show them after the NDA was lifted. But to be clear. I had 4 or five scenes and it was in the coloring department. There was a possibility of it to happen, and I wasn't the only one, since we were just the "outsource of the outsource", so maybe there is a credit I am, or was not familiar with, so I was in a "block". And still... I didn't effin' believe her, mainly because a first timer won't gat that kind of job. Unless you have an "uncle working at Ghibli" you start as an intern or at the tail end of the pipeline. At least that is my experience.

[@CEOofTired]

The fact that it got her a job?

[@Kralisedra]

Like half of the comments said, it's striking how she mischaracterizes Miyazaki. It's such a small thing, but it is just striking how little she seems to know about the studio she claimed to work for. Even very casual Ghibli fans know how standoffish and cynical Miyazaki is. How many memes have been made comparing Miyazaki and Junji Ito's demeanors? So not only does she know less about animation than me (self taught and not a great animator, believe me), she also doesn't seem to know what Miyazaki is like. Like, damn. Edit: And for the record, I am not saying this to deride Hayao Miyazaki. I'm an artist and animation fan, of COURSE I love Ghibli. and while he might not be an affectionate person himself, there's no denying that his work has a very special place in my heart.

[@Kralisedra]

Also I don't know much about laws in either Colombia or Japan, does anyone more experienced happen to know if there's any kind of legal consequence for lying like this in either country? I'm not actively hoping for that, I'm asking out of curiosity. I think in the US there could be grounds for a cease & desist, maybe.

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

​@@Kralisedra I think the fact that she implied they took advantage of her could be grounds because it's lying about a company saying they did something bad to you when they didn't. But tbh this has blown up in her face because she lied badly and got caught, so idk if they'd bother.

[@flowerdream2732]

@@theblackcatgirl7013 I think that counts as defamation. But yeah, I'm not sure either if they would bother with that, since she got caught already.

[@juanpablorobayo3437]

My girl literally wrote fanfiction of her being Miyazaki’s besto friendo

[@leavemealone802]

The guy doesnt have to be a sweetheart to be a great artist. And that doesnt make him a bad person Either Not Everyone gets that

[@twisteddanid]

This sounds like the plot to an episode of a kids cartoon lmao. Where the main character tells a little white lie and that lie is blown out of proportion to the point where the character has to make up more lies in order to cover it up. And at the end the main character learns that lying is bad and telling the truth is always right, or whatever lmao.

[@rosysquid]

Sharktale be like

[@pennysanchez7656]

Isn't that just the plot of Shark Tale where Oscar does exactly that when he "killed" a shark?

[@potatopotayto8332]

shark tale is a great comparison but may i also mention steamed hams

[@razzyromeo]

dear evan hansen

[@NicoleFlores-hq5nh]

Everybody is saying sharktale, which fair comparison, yet my mind is telling me Camp Rock 😭

[@BlinkingTwin]

Person making a monumental lie about a well known beloved studio: Surely, no one will ever bother to fact check this.

[@Madjichen]

Big brain, galaxy brain even!!

[@genericname2747]

The news sure didn't

[@akinaharris4587]

All I can think about after finishing this is:..oh, she is so blacklisted from the animation industry.

[@rosysquid]

Nah she doesn’t even work in the animation industry in the first place She used to work in a glass factory called “Technoglass” before getting fired

[@thelonleyUchiha1]

@@rosysquidI think they mean that even if she tried to go for jobs in the future there’s no way she’d get them after this stunt

[@AntiVectorTV]

I love the assumption that, while working for _Studio Ghibli, for years,_ she would only have met Miyazaki three times. _Edit: Copic markers. For a Studio Ghibli film._

[@BADLUCKCHARM]

COPIC MARKERS KILLED MEEE 😭

[@greenbird6435]

"she doesn't even go here!"

[@LiliannEnder]

Do you even go to this school? /ref

[@juanpablorobayo3437]

Hi. Colombian here. This girl is SUCH an actual embarrassment it’s insane. We can’t believe this is a thing anyone would do. Also, the whole thing about “he affectionately nicknamed me ‘La Colombiana’ “ is funny for a very key reason. In Colombian culture, we would absolutely make nicknames around people’s nationality, or appearance, or job, or whatever. It’s a form of affection FOR US-but not for the Japanese. Japanese people wouldn’t be like “konnichiwa America-jin-San”. No??? That’s not how Japanese culture sees affection. If anything that is a method of ‘othering’. If anyone did that it might be seen as an insult. Like “Hey, it’s the foreigner”. Japan values people being together and homogenous to an extent. So, why is this funny? It’s because she said this to Colombian interviewers. Because “La Colombiana” would resonate with the Colombian audience she wanted to target. This is like when someone writes a fanfic of a foreign culture and inserts something clearly around their own culture into it. Any Colombian-or any person-who has any experience with Japanese culture, would pick up on the lie. But not everyone knows, right? Not everyone is privileged enough to be able to study a foreign culture. This means that she was banking on the people who interviewed her to be uneducated. She wanted them to be stupid. To be hicks. She wanted them to be as ignorant as her, and in doing so she embarrassed her country. Literal clown moment. And we are so sorry about it. We don’t claim this lady.

[@casualdork6661]

her blatant lies actually make my blood boil. i just cant believe so many artists work their whole lives to get recognized and this lady, who doesnt know jack squat about the medium shes talking about, gets paraded around

[@Madjichen]

The world indulges in liars and cheats. It's disgraceful :(

[@Meimoons]

Not only that, she stole the work slots of more deserving people

[@batty1952]

Spanish speaker here, my favorite part of this fiasco was in one of her interviews, for a "demonstration" of her skills in animation she did the most BASIC excercise ever (the ball motion one), and the news station was like "omg guys she an expert" LMAOO that's what cemented it for me, putting aside the "lovely and attentive Hayao Miyazaki gave me a cute nickname ^o^" comments,

[@rattlethatanimation]

*draws ball bouncing in flipnote studio "yeah Im kind of a professional 😏"

[@RaiRaiRaven]

BABE WAKE UP, MAMA PONDER HAS GRACED US WITH NEW BACKGROUND NOISE TO DRAW ART TO

[@ZurielKhemra]

help 💀🩷

[@shadowgamera1124]

Literally me 😭

[@Mafon2]

So true, lol. I don't even care what she talks about, she might have been reading a telephone book.

[@enderkatze6129]

Very Well researched Background noise So Well researched infact that calling it Background noise almost feels insulting

[@Bongo-sb1gs]

am i tripping? isnt this a reupload?

[@Raven_Anime_]

As someone in animation school its make me so cringe everytime she try to explain how the studio work and im just here like "NO THAT NOW HOW THAT WORK, YOU SOUND LIKE YOUR EXPLAIN HOW TO MAKE A ILLUSTRATIONS NOT A ANIMATION !!!" Here actually how that work: pitch/script > storyboard + character design >revision of the storyboard character design if need it> animatic> revision of the animation > bg sketch, bg color grey scale, bg color, matpainting bg> importation of bg in animation>REVISION OF ANIMATIC FOR THE FULL ANIMATION AND THEN YOU CAN FINISH IT! its not "revision at the end" NO its all the fucking time durring every process because if you do at the end, you will basicly go back to 0

[@lilliansahara8625]

Isn't it also mostly different people working on different parts? Like you've got someone doing the storyboard, someone doing the keyframes, someone for the background, and so on, and so on

[@caramel9154]

@@lilliansahara8625 yeah you've got storyboard artists, people specializing in animatics, so on so forth. iirc different animators generally work on specific characters too but that can vary from studio to studio

[@nanonano2595]

@@lilliansahara8625 depends on the size of the production and studio. Which also affects the process, a super small production is also gonna skip several steps. More experienced artists may also have multiple jobs even in a larger production, especially if they're in an older studio that started out small.

[@ryandoggo]

As a 40 year old, I still feel embarrassed that I lied that I know how to play musical instruments when I was in high school. Just because I wanted to impress a few people that I know. It was really embarrassing when I got busted. I don't think I have the guts to lie to this level.

[@pondersprocket2274]

I kinda feel like the ridiculous lies we tell in highschool and getting called out and mocked for them then is supposed to teach us not to do it as we get older XD The embarassment and shame should certainly be enough, what with the hormone-riddled brain of teenagedom.

[@yukimisouzou3036]

That credit lies really irk me. Like, every single people who are involved in making them will always be credited, Japanese names be written in Japanese, Chinese be in Chinese/Mandarin, and English be in English. Foreign names with foreign language will be credited just as it is, unless they want to be credited under different name. Yes, there are cases of people not being credited for their crafts, but without proper evidence, how can others believe it? At least those who genuinely got discredited can proof their words by showing a lot of the WIPs and their progress within the project.

[@juanpablorobayo3437]

You know why she said that her name would be in Japanese? Cuz she was like “not many Colombians know Japanese. They won’t know I’m lying.” Girl was trying to milk ignorance, and as a Colombian myself, she absolutely was being racist to herself and her country here

[@chacha_rouge]

As an animation student, I want to mention that if any of this were a true tale, she'd have basically completely shut down any recruitment prospects within the industry because of NDAs, defemation, and basically lying about her experience with malicious intent (clout chasing by defamation is malicious). The animation world has blacklists, and they share them. An easy example: if you are caught leaking or revealing information while under NDA, or of any project you do not own, the company WILL blacklist you, and it's over.

[@remyalyssa4510]

good thing she doesnt seem to actually want to work in the industry lolol

[@Mothy2003]

Hi hi hi!! I signed an animation-related NDA years ago in Highschool (it wasn't even legally binding, I was barely 15, but I never broke it because I'm a good little boy) and it has long since expired (I didn't see anything that it told me not to disclose, they were working on unreleased care-bear episodes and the TTG movie, but I didn't see shit lol) and the NDA she's trying to explain makes absolutely 0 sense. I HEAVILY doubt that they'd let a STUDENT animate in a project that massive. That and, well, everything else lol. I did get some cool insight on why old, 'cringe' memes get put in kids cartoons. It's simple: Storyboard artists get bored as shit, draw a funny to make the cleanup artists laugh, and the cleanup artists just lock-in and and animate the dumb meme.

[@YourWaywardDestiny]

You're right, there is a bigger question here: what else did she do that she never got called out for? How do you even managed to get so used to lying? There really _is_ no way she wasn't lying constantly to even _imagine_ that this massive of a lie up.

[@zombiecat5019]

Culture latín stuff and sistem of Bad information of social latín media i Guess.

[@mothynightmares6342]

For anyone curious I did the maths. If she's claimed to draw 25,000 stills, that only adds up to 17 minutes, at a stretch you could maybe bump it to 18 minutes. So how, even if working with another team, is she claiming credit for over double that time????

[@itzfroggi22]

Plus, she wouldn't even get to finish the deadline!

[@primalycia]

I was very confused by the math, personally. It takes roughly 130,000 individual frames for a 90 minute movie so if 25k is 1/3 of a film it's either not 90+ minutes or it is at a very low frame rate. HOWEVER, they could have assumed the animation was done on twos in which case to people unfamiliar with animation such as the interviewers could lead to confusion and thinking that's actually 12 frames per second which would drop that 130k drawings per film to 65k drawings to complete the film.

[@eptck]

i think the hand injury serves a double use here ; not only does it show her " dedication , " but it also serves as a reason for people not to ask her to draw in the ghibli style as a way of checking her . even if realistically she could still do it , most people won't think to ask out of courtesy for her injury

[@pondersprocket2274]

That's a very good point!

[@ayepotamono3442]

24:23 NOT HER CLAIMING SHE WAS A DIGITAL ILUSTRATOR AND JUST FUCKINGGG FIGURED OUT ALL THESE TRADITIONAL TECHNIQUES AS SHE WENT I GUESS??

[@fullmetalfangirl12]

"I focused mainly on the illustration and frames" like it can't be overstated just how little she knows about animation! I'm not an animator but I know that animation and illustration are 2 different things! Edit: I forgot to even mention the bit where she says she used "acrylics markers and pencils" and "my room was filled with frames". Correct me if I'm wrong (and maybe ponder brings this up I haven't finished the video) but isn't this movie animated digitally? Like the backgrounds are probably hand painted but this is a digitally animated movie, right?

[@tinyshinyfeathers]

The lie's especially obvious if you _are_ familiar with the 2d animation pipeline, because a fully staffed studio will have cleanup artists and colorists who, well, clean up and color the animators' frames! So every single frame is actually the product of multiple people's work…

[@fullmetalfangirl12]

@tinyshinyfeathers exactly! Like unless your studio only has 5 people in it (which obviously ghibli isn't like that) then there's no way only one person is animating 25k frames alone!

[@aspenve]

A lot of animation studios in Japan still do the animation part of the pipeline traditionally-the "Genga". It is then cleaned and colorized digitally. That doesnt make her story any more believable though. Genga is done by a group of people all sporting different job titles. Key animators do the aniamtion keys, inbetweeners do the inbetweens. Somewhere down the pipeline the Genga is handed to senior animators, character designers and animation supervisors, who all do corrections to the drawings on separate pieces of paper. Those all get scanned and layered, and the cleanup artist then traces them digitally. Then it is handed off to the Cel Painter to colorize, digitally. There is no "illustration" part anywhere down the animation pipeline, except for in the backgrounds. A ton of people are responsible for the completion of scenes and even when speaking about individuals "animating entire scenes by themselves" what is referred to is the Keyframing and Inbetweening of the Genga. The cleanup and colorizing is still done by other people. This woman clearly wasn't well versed in her lies and confused the way animation is still done on paper in Japan today with complete production done on cellulose like back in the day. But even then, Cel painting wasn't done with "Acrylics" or "Watercolor" but paints specificslly deisgned for animation to give clean flat colors. (I'm a self taught, independent hobbyist animator. This is taken from my pool of knowledge.)

[@fullmetalfangirl12]

@aspenve ah I see that does make sense and is great insight. It also just makes her claims way more obviously fake but unfortunately I think a lot of people just don't know how animation and the industry work so people like this can get pretty far without much pushback

[@Daiacos]

oh brother when I tell you this is an every tuesday kind of thing here in south america. there's always some nepo baby that doesn't know what they're talking about making up tall tales and claiming to have worked on something popular and atributing someone else's work to themselves I would know, friendly fire is on and they did it to me as well lmao

[@enitenit2791]

obsessed with how she kept acting like this lie just.. fell into her lap. And not something she could've stopped as early as when the university asked her to speak about "her" experience and explain to her friend that she lied.

[@elpanarichie]

It's strangely funny to see a KZbin video about a case that appeared on my local newspaper I'm Venezuelan (From that country next to Colombia). This situation was pure chaos in south America. Basically, when the technoglass company uploaded the video about Geraldine working on studio Ghibli, that's when people started to get suspicious of her, I think that was also the time when she started to get attention by new outlets, who claimed she worked at studio Ghibli without even checking the credits. One of the funniest things she did was that she showed a certificate in Japanese that she claimed was sent to her from studio Ghibli for her work. People quickly found out that the image of the certificate she used to prove her claim was, not only from google, but it had nothing to do with studio Ghibli, it's a certificate for winning a pottery competition or something. I kinda feel bad for her, I do believe that she's a pathological liar, or that at the very least, she's somewhat used to lying, and that it all started as a white lie to her friend group just to show off her artistic prowess or whatever. This still doesn't excuse her for not admitting her lie when things got out of control or her stolen art in her portfolio, she deserves to be called out for it and that's what she got Btw, I love the La niña y la farsa phrase, it's pretty clever (La niña y la farsa translates to the girl and the lie). The whole video is really good

[@radio-transmissions]

Truly the Tommy Tallarico of the animation industry

[@teksemporium]

Her mother's very proud

[@theMrromeijn]

I wonder if she has a 6-foot waterfall in her bedroom, but it makes her wanna pee.

[@enderkatze6129]

Not rich enough

[@osianonymous8065]

Lmao kept thinking this while watching

[@juanjuri6127]

geraldine is below tommy tallarico, because even though a massive amount of tommy's credited work is stolen, he is demonstrably a professional musician and composer, as he claims. geraldine is below milli vanilli, because at least the dancing part of the performance was their own, and the idea for the fraud came from their producer. geraldine is like if someone came up to you and claimed they wrote half of bohemian rhapsody, and when you ask them to prove it they pull out a ratty old casio, hit play on one of the pre-built demo tracks, and tell you they just wrote it that morning

[@blue-simplicity]

It doesn't make sense to me why you would lie on a resume for something so major when it can be easily fact-checked especially in an industry as large and pristine as big animation studioa from things like like Studio Ghibli

[@Gorentaya]

Im not even half way into the video and im getting second hand embarrassment listening to her take credit for some of the most beautiful shots of the movie- and then being complimented for it. “Wow you made this! Thats amazing” I dont cringe easily but listening to that was actually painful

[@rattlethatanimation]

The fact she tried to claim she animated 30 minutes of the movie by herself is insane. Longest video Ive animated is a little over 3 minutes and took me 6-7ish months 💀

[@Samuelnakano]

I just keep thinking how guibli animators and especially Hayao Miyazaki must've reacted to hearing this (If this even reached them) They like "...who tf is this woman? Tf is she talking about?"

[@meatofmink]

“a script is easy” Girl WHAT!?

[@beepboop7345]

Hearing about this around the time is was first being kinda "found out" was one thing but I never really bothered to hear what she herself said in interviews outside of like an article from when it broke. Hearing how big and nonsensically general her claims actually were is insane. Like what does 2000 something "drawings" even mean in the context of an animated movie lmao. She could of at least made it a lil more plausible if she said she did like keys for one scene or helped with backgrounds. Like something small that most weabs even dont pay super close attention to. Even more baffling story hearing the finer details now then it was the first time it broke sjhsjsjdjs

[@Diamond1234]

That's the thing about people with egos, they have to give themselves big important roles to sound self important and amazing (or be the victim for pity points because they want to be the center of attention). They aren't satisfied with a little bit of fame, they want all of it. Probably didn't help that the community ate up those lies so she got more emboldened and the lies got more and more grandiose until the bubble popped.

[@lorddestrustor8828]

"especially when the media did not act with rigor to verify the sources" A.K.A: "boo hoo, it's the media's fault my lie got so big, they should've called me out on it" Bruh, lol.

[@LavenderTea-lr3hc]

to be fair she isn't... technically wrong? I mean no-one wants their news to be feeding them lies, she's obviously shifting the blame but they did still platform her despite literally zero evidence.

[@Mimidiggz]

She could have said she worked on Encanto and that would've been more believable.

[@darth_emerald]

Fun fact: I actually briefly attended a club at my highschool about animation and it was taught by someone who animated at Cartoon Network/Adult Swim (notably, he did some work on Harvey Birdman) he was a great teacher and a swell guy (he also looked like another art teacher, which was a common injoke at the school that they both took in stride)

[@nabuchodonosormcgalapatram6941]

I know it's off topic, but isn't that more of an anecdote instead of a fun fact?

[@SpaceySodaPop]

Off topic but love the re-animator mentions!! I can’t believe you created re-animator. Your loved ones must be so proud.

[@sniegsnieg]

Hello. Just starting out the video and Wolf from Kipo being drawn as youre talking about wolves in sheeps clothing is a pretty fun choice that made me chuckle

[@pondersprocket2274]

I try to do that a lot with my art footage - pick something that's tangentially related to the topic or else a joke I make. The secondary footage was picked because I later reference replication in art.

[@zapacunotres59]

THERE ARE TRAILERS NOW!?!?!? 6 hours and 39 minutes until premier. I'm hyped!

[@aino-kaisav5504]

This makes me sad because I KNOW animators who have made incredibly well-animated music videos alone, projects that took a long time from them. Take Bani-chan animating The Greatest Living Show all by herself. But any time someone, like in the case of this Boy and The Heron situation, lies about their works, it takes credibility from everyone who actually does animation projects alone. Now people have reasons to doubt actual animators.

[@aino-kaisav5504]

27:10 Oh wow, a familiar name! Ohira visited Finland in last years Comic Con!

[@aino-kaisav5504]

31:34 I'm sorry, she lied about being credited under ufotable? Like *the* ufotable?? Studio that has made some of the most incredible animated fight scenes I've ever seen, for example in Fate/Zero? Out of all the supporting studios, she really had to pick the one that is an actual Japanese anime studio. XD

[@Schr0jun1]

OMG THANK YOU FOR GIVING THIS STORY MORE COVERAGE ITS GENUINELY INSANE i remember hearing about it a year ago from the anime man and im happy more people will be exposed to this amazingly bizzare story-

[@StarEyedRuby]

Ive been seeing a LOT of "the boy who cries wolf"- like situations recently. Is life trying to tell me something

[@snowgrave4642]

woof

[@rdarkstorm8414]

Yeah it's telling you not to trust people who lie

[@StarEyedRuby]

@rdarkstorm8414 I mean I don't do that anyways lol

[@rdarkstorm8414]

@@StarEyedRuby wish I could say same with my whole chest lol

[@furyleferret2288]

I'm mexican so I can safely tell you that the translation you are using is very on point with what she said. She really did say those things in the way it was translated which is baffling for some of the claims she made Even counting her 'Apology'

[@Nakkili]

OH MY GOD THIS IS SO FUNNY "Yes I made a third of a film for one of the most famous animation studios in the world, but it was just a test and I had never animated anything in my entire life"

[@enderkatze6129]

So, she says she made 25.000 frames, yes? And she said she worked 4 years, yes? And that she worked into the nights? Because, if that is true, she completed and finished up one frame, fully ready and inserted into the movie as is, in approximately 55 minutes. And that's assuming 16 hour workdays, working every single day of the year without fail. One, according to her fully handdrawn and edited, frame, with character, background, the movement matched to the previous frame perfectly, coloured, shaded In 55 minutes.

[@Infinite_Ztudioz]

When we got the news about this woman, me, my classmates and teachers, who studied ANIMATION, started laughing. It was so obvious that she was lying. Even family members who know nothing about animation or the art area notice it was a fishy situation. the audacity of that lie

[@jjartzlikeslamps]

I'm not even an animator myself, but I feel like anyone who knows how animation works in the most basic, bare bones level, would feel absolutely boggled hearing her trying to describe how her animation process went and that she animated multiple sections *by herself*.

[@crimsonsilvermoon]

Came here from the short, love your stuff

[@crimsonsilvermoon]

KZbin seemingly glitched so I was able to watch this

[@pondersprocket2274]

Nah, that was a me glitch. So you got a sneak peek I guess XD

[@crimsonsilvermoon]

@@pondersprocket2274 unfortunately I watch stuff in one sitting so it was more than a sneak peak for me

[@pondersprocket2274]

@@crimsonsilvermoon *valid*

[@squidy.tea-png8343]

Ponder's videos always just make my art insecurities vanish like I'll go from "god, my art looks so shit right now, every part of it is hot garbage, I'm gonna puke looking at this, ew ew ew ew ew yucky" to "I need to improve, but look at these things I'm doing good! It's not perfect, no art is, but it's makes me happy :-D" no clue why her vids do this, but it's definitely good lmao

[@AntiVectorTV]

"They had different faculties!" The classes are real, they just go to a different school!

[@bored4033]

I find it kinda funny how she didn't expect more people to find out. You don't think a friend or family member wouldn't brag about being close to someone who animated a massive part of a movie from an extremely beloved director?

[@lauraj349]

as a latam its very common for people to mimic or immitate art they like be it from anime or disney so it wouldnt be uncommon for her to get others complimenting her basically being all "wow you draw in x style really good!" as when i had my narito phase in high school i basically got the same thing but also as someone from latam this bring me indredible cringe to see her so casually lie im about to crash my car

[@aino-kaisav5504]

Hey, uh, are you alright? That last sentence makes it look like you had a car crash while commenting.

[@It_Them_Ace]

"Keep yer throat mOiSttt"

[@SecondBestArtMuseum]

Jesus Christ. I can’t believe she doesn’t even know what a storyboard is! Like, why go onto this podcast and make up lies about the Animation industry if you have no idea how it works!?

[@m-0-ths]

The way she talks about the progress of working on the film is SO INFURIATING. LIKE SHE REALLY HAS NO CLUE HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS

[@MaoKittyMaoMao]

I've lied on my resume for technical stuff I can learn, but not for my creative work

[@galactic-hamster7043]

YOURE BACK WHAT

[@Salemshood]

WHENEVER WE NEED PONDER, SHE COMES BACK. 🙏🙏

[@knickgnatts]

desperately needed a video to play in the background while I cram studied and lo and BEHOLD! so excited for this

[@xurkitry]

Around the 30 minute mark when shes showing her... Art. I would like to say the Fierce Deity piece she has is absolutely stolen, I remember seeing it on Deviantart when I was younger and even using it as a reference in either middle or early high school. Lmao.

[@nnhhkk867]

Yeah, the art she shows doesn't look traced but it's 100% heavily referenced.

[@SpinyPufferfish]

I remember reading this story on Cartoon Brew and not giving it too much thought other than "why would you even try something like this"? I should've assumed how much she would have to do keep the lie up.

[@HongoKaslana]

OMAIGOTTO La niña y la Farza I love it La colombiana It was a big topic in the Spanish community, from a news item in Colombia to reaching Japan and Spain. Every day there was a new video about how much La Gera could lie. AMO, No puedo nada mas que amar que por fin les llego a ustedes X,D

[@justchilling1506]

LES LLEGÓ A JAPÓN? qUEee dios que verguenza jAJAJ

[@ryoden8738]

I can't belive La Colombiana's lie was so huge it even reached people who don't speak spanish 2 years after

[@nico_blackeyes]

Wait, 2 years ago? I could swear it hasn't been more than two months since that, time goes fast :')

[@jojode334]

This is a very nice comfort while I'm going through some really rough period pain. Love your always high quality vids 💖✨

[@unripetheberrby6283]

same...

[@suikasss]

Holy shit, I didn't expect you to talk about Geraldine. Man, I'm gonna enjoy this a lot.

[@Moss_006]

I MISSED THE PREMIERE OF A PONDER VIDEO NOOOO. 😭😭😭 PONDER ILY THANK YOU FOR BLESSING HS WITH THIS.

[@FillaneA]

Whats more frustrating than seeing someone lie, is seeing them throw more and more details onto said lies. Reminds me of me as a kid lying to my parents about going to friends after school instead of my ballet lessons. I made up this whole story of what we supposedly practiced...despite mom having the call that i didn't show up

[@Saltteabee]

Unbelievable… That someone has the guts of lying about such a big company where it is so easy to find out if it is or isn't true. It's so distasteful that she even tried to make the company look bad with not giving credit, and then trying to play the victim in her apology, even dragging her country into it. She got what she deserved. I feel so sorry for the company that she tried putting a bad light on them and anyone included that her friends believed her.

[@HeyItsKlause]

Speaking of art lol I love the way you drew Wolf at the start! A bit unrelated but I love Kipo so I thought I should say something

[@toffeefeathers]

The fact she doesn’t specify once exactly what kind of animation she did (roughs, in between, keys, clean-up) was red flag #1 Also that she apparently animated whole scenes alone, that just doesn’t happen in a film like this

[@mowx7711]

Ponder let us out of the basement for some amazing sunlight thank you ponder 🙏🙏

[@crissy4445]

Thank you for including multiple international currencies-I really appreciated that!

[@Lakadaizical]

Her lacking knowledge of basic animation practices made me *SUFFER.*

[@welcometoelijahvale]

not sure how you do it but you always manage to upload some much needed long form content when i have an insane drawing assignment due, amen 🙏

[@scrumptious_human]

41:55 was making them gay your idea?

[@KrisRenegadeAngel]

It's like that guy in the Saw movies who lied about being in a saw trap only to end up in one for real and lose everything and everyone he cherished.

[@beatron07]

The phrase "I did that" reminds me the time that I drew something, and some guy came and said I drew that. Respect Ponder sprocket as an artist.

[@meakimon]

I only heard a little bit about the case, so I'm glad I'm getting treated to over an hour long video on it. It's great just hearing your voice again, and seeing you draw is soothing. ^^ Edit: Hm, I was always told not to use references, so tracing was just faaaar out of the question when I was growing up as an artist. I was also treated harshly, and saw what happened to my siblings when they were caught in a lie, so I was always terrified of lying and being caught. So I only ever tell harmless lies if I absolutely have to.

[@Beansaplenty]

I JUST STARTED THE VIDEO, IS THAT WOLF FROM KIPO FANART??!! :0 THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT!! IVE MISSED YOU SO MUCH BEA!! 💞

[@KittyChuTheKawaii]

🌸 Wow your drawing of Wolf from Kipo looks so good! Your art looks super cool! I absolutely love Studio Ghibli! It was actually what inspired me to be an artist! My favorite movie from Studio Ghibli has to be “Howl’s Moving Castle”. I do like quite a few of the other movies as well. I hope you’re having a wonderful day! ^^ 🌸

[@butteredtoasted]

MOTHER HAS RETURNED TO GRACE USSSS

[@lavendotdurr]

I swear I watched the video but also SO MUCH LOVE FOR THE WOLF ART!!

[@catmintdragon2215]

oh snap is that Kipo fanart being drawn in the first part?

[@Pebbles_Acc]

I love the speedpaint at the start:] barely see anyone bring up Kipo (even though it’s a great show auh)

[@wildpawz8894]

Great video, but I would avoid using "body language" going forward. It's incredibly pseudo-sciency and detracts from the actual facts of the situation. You said yourself that her bodily reactions seem very genuine despite the fact she's lying. Like, even when we tell the truth, if it's a awkward or tense situation we tend to fidget or stutter or shrink back. And people who know others erroneously rely on body language use this to their advantage to feign "perfect" body language. I'm glad you kept that segment short as it is a very weak and uncredible point. Otherwise great vid :D

[@pondersprocket2274]

I would agree with you if I were using her body language to make a solid determination, like accusing her of lying *based* on that. However, since we already know that she *is* lying, the way that she responds to different situations where that lie is both being accepted *and* rejected is fascinating and she *does* react differently between the two.

[@Hyraxas]

Funny thought. What if said friend was fed up with her lies and stealing others work that they reported her brag to the news, knowing she would dig her own grave?

[@tayls1]

Her mom is very proud

[@CMY_Kat]

One time I lied about being in the audience of a Nickelodeon live show. That was back when I was in kindergarten, though.

[@Luminoxie]

I'll be honest, I studied animation and worked with other departments at my university (games, audio, graphic design, film) and I can assure you that graphic design/illustrators have the biggest egos in the industry. So much so that they lie, manipulate their way and pretend to know so much on things they never studied, almost like an obsession. This woman is giving me flash backs to those times and man it's obvious she knows nothing about animation.

[@starri__]

Ponder has graced us with a video let me go get my tablet and snacks :D

[@gwagoo8598]

WOLF FROM KIPO AND THE AGE OF THE WONDERBEASTS I LOVE THAT SHOW IT TOOK ME A MOMENT TO REALIZE WHAT YOURE DRAWING BUT THEN I SAW STALKY

[@sealo1351]

when i was a kid (like 8-9) i used to trace art and claim it as mine to my family I've since then improved a lot after taking art seriously around 2 years ago, and I cringe whenever I remember those days

[@eyreyereye]

the moment she said copic markers i sat back like. how could anyone have bought this story??? copics aren't animation grade AT ALL, not to mention the fact that if this were traditionally animated -- it's not -- it wouldn't be on paper, but cells that must be PAINTED on

[@hiide0us123]

But hey, anime, japan, Copics right?

[@Tsusagi]

I understand this is a very serious video essay but I want to point out that I really adore how you draw arms, little shadows, and the folds in the clothing ❤💕

[@franklygear]

she cant even name animation terminology that every amateur teenage animator knows

[@kraziscribbs4552]

"Each person did their own scene" that is physically IMPOSSIBLE 😂the artsyle in each scene would be drastically different from each other