Madison Beer Was Supposed To Be In The Video | Celebrity Deep Dive

[@ashleynorton]

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[@selinkorkmaz1019]

ive been following mad since 2012-13. the amount of hate shes been getting has always been rooted in nothung but teenage jealousy.

[@TacticusPrime]

Wait, people were just sharing ***illegal*** nudes on Twitter? And then people dogpiled on the girl instead of the psycho that shared them? People are such trash.

[@ashleynorton]

And sadly it’s not the only time it happened. Acacia Brinley went through basically the same thing. Beyond gross

[@Isabellediaz112]

Pretty sure it happened to charli and Dixie damelio too

[@iguana6513]

It's the one thing I hope our generation is better at. There's no reason at all for her to have gone through all that horrific trauma and adults let her down like that. I never want to go back to how women were portrayed even just 10 year ago. It's sad thinking how I and many other women grew up with this treatment normalized. Eugh!! I sure hope we can all continue to grow, and continue to not put down other women just because of internalized misogyny 👏

[@amppyo]

and david dobrick saying he did those things to videos of who he thought was a underage girl like wtf

[@rima7286]

@@ashleynorton this was absolutely the norm in 2014. even "woke" stan twitter wouldnt do anything about it

[@gabi-eg7tg]

the IRONY in jack saying 'you're a slut!!!' and then saying 'I am going to sleep with every girl in LA', This poor woman, the trauma that she had to go through as a young girl. Also, the word 'slut' was used so flippantly, as an insult back then that looking back, you know that there was no real insult that they could have used so they just went with the most horrid misogynically charged one

[@sugarplum2467]

Girls like her call every Tik Tok guy a 'fuckboy' I don't see why she would be upset at the word 'slut'.

[@es1645]

I found that comment to be so weird. Like ok? Have fun at the std clinic. Who sleeps with people outta spite 💀

[@gabi-eg7tg]

@@es1645 sleeping with people is so okay if you are safe and use protection and disclose your STD status!!!! but something tells me that men like him would be sad if their intimate partner wanted him to wear protection

[@steamyvegetables1445]

​@@es1645 My sister's toxic bf, and he said that it front her face.😀

[@steamyvegetables1445]

​​​@@gabi-eg7tg Bare in mind sleeping around may not be safe, you don't know if that random guy or girl you're sleeping with may poke holes in the condom or commit stealthing or commit other forms of SA, the risks are just too high.

[@Laura-pq3uh]

The fact that taylor went so much out of his way to label madison as trash and s*ut makes me think that he definitely hit on her and she turned him down and he was pissy cause his fragile pride couldn't take it. Hes disgusting

[@hannahnielsen7403]

i’d bet my life that this is 100% correct

[@talyachambers4722]

i was thinking this 🙄🙄

[@MashaRistova]

His behavior made it sooooo obvious that this is exactly what happened

[@Effexxor]

'Do not date a man who humps the floor for clout' is a fucking iconic line.

[@sparksflylove]

I’m gonna get it tattooed as a tramp stamp

[@TheSoftestGirlYouKnow]

@@sparksflylove 👌✨

[@MustAvoidScurvy]

And a great piece of advice, tbh! 😅

[@balletslippers43]

dude the video of the girl screaming about how upset she is that madison is [allegedly] lying about having filler/plastic surgery is peak weirdo internet behavior imo.. very strange behavior to me

[@kkuudandere]

I genuinely hope she eventually talked to someone who could help her through her feelings instead of screaming online. Like, I sort of understand her point but her anger about it.... that's something else And celebrities telling us they DID have surgery... doesn't change the fact they're still good looking lol

[@LilyLewis771]

This section pissed me off SO much because they’re basically just getting mad at Madison for being beautiful. Like just Madison existing is apparently “setting unrealistic beauty standards”… so what, Madison should change her face and body to please them? Is that not the problem women are complaining about? If you’re not beautiful you need to change and if you’re too beautiful you need to change. I can’t say whether Madison has had plastic surgery or uses photoshop or not but- I’ve seen plenty of women in person who are utterly gorgeous and have amazing bodies, it’s absolutely possible she really looks like that. The problem is how much society values beauty and makes women that aren’t beautiful feel worthless. The problem is that some girls feel bad because they’re not in the top 10% of beauty, not that those beautiful women exist.

[@liviaelectra422]

I was looking for someone else talking about this. Very concerning for her to be that upset over another woman’s alleged filler and surgery. Screaming until your face turns red probably isn’t a healthy reaction lmfaoo. Embarrassing but hopefully she has grown since then.

[@alishaoop2676]

and even if madison beer got surgeries which she didnt, she would still look like MADISON BEER, just with surgeries.

[@KellyVibes-26]

That video was scary

[@emlish]

What the hell by PINK??? Girl show Avril some respect 😤😝

[@rivert132]

That’s what I was thinking LOL

[@saneira]

I was searching for my fellow Avril fans in the comments because I knew someone had to have also noticed that lmao

[@ArisaArtisan]

legit i got So Confused like... ????????????

[@byulharangforlife]

isn't it SO WHAT by Pink??

[@ashleynorton]

cancelling myself immediately. I failed our Canadian pop punk queen

[@00Rav3n00]

I won't lie, i completely respect madison for confronting that girl and for the way she did. You'll notice at the end of the clip she offered to speak in private and i think that is a very mature thing to do. It's really sad that she had to mature so quickly and that she had to go through so much on her own; i dont know her parents (obviously) but i think they suck.

[@lizzyblitz07]

It's really sad she had to, and infuriating she didn't get credit for it. You're right, that was the most mature and open minded response. Given all the insane arguments on video today, she needs props for that

[@layton6202]

You sound very young

[@Kloves818]

Clarifying the alegriers drama (as someone who witnessed it real time): Ale was a magcon stan living in LA. She had constant run ins with the guys, not enough to be close or anything but they definitely remembered her from meeting so many times. Hated Madison for whatever reason (at the time she said Madison was rude to her friends). Ale had a fan meet up at the Grove - just a bunch of teens on twitter wanting to make friends. That same day, Madison was coincidentally also at the Grove meeting fans of her own. They told Madison that Ale (the girl who threatened her on Twitter) was there and Madison sought her out to confront her irl. Ale was caught off guard and didn't expect to fight at the Grove of all places, hence the awkwardness. They talked everything out on the spot and were fine after.

[@ashleynorton]

Thank you for the context! What I would give to have seen that go down irl

[@teddykaz47]

can’t wait to learn about someone i have never heard of

[@edwarddorey4480]

*of whom I have never heard. I recommend not putting prepositions at the end of clauses.

[@cheribitch5396]

@@edwarddorey4480I love you, I agree with little grammatical and sentence things like this

[@abrielle13]

​@cheribitch5396 You didn't even use a period, though. 😂

[@VultureSkins]

@@edwarddorey4480ew, why are all of your comments corrections? Ppl aren’t out here trying to write perfectly constructed sentences. You’re in the KZbin comments.

[@mjray1]

Me every time I click on an Ashley Norton video

[@tidelinetori]

In his statement- he says: "if she didn't help me overcome my ways and change"..that is never, ever YOUR responsibility and if you feel this way about a partner, leave. Or at least seek therapy and support. It isn't healthy to feel the need to "help" someone else be a better person. There's a difference between growing together and changing over time VS expecting others to carry the responsibility of your shitty ways. I wish I would have learned this a long time ago. Sincerely- a former "ride or die" "you can fix him" woman.

[@Grace-rt7ts]

this point definitely doesn’t compare to some of the larger devastating events she’s gone through but like after all of that, i can’t imagine people not even taking your sexuality label seriously. she came out as bisexual and people were like .. “nope. you’re not sorry.” like jesus christ, let the girl have ONE THING.

[@selinkorkmaz1019]

Listen I love Madison to pieces and have been following her since 2012-13, went to her concert but sadly didn’t get m&g tickets, but she herself said she isn’t bisexual in a live in like 2015

[@mophead_xu]

not to be like, a downer or an "uhm axshelly" kinda guy but ... unfortunately that is a very common experience for bisexuals. 🥲 it's either that or people just go "ok" and then sweep it under the rug and completely ~forget~ about it. it's a rite of passage, at this point.

[@josephine-rt6jw]

@@selinkorkmaz1019 and in 2020, she said she was bisexual and had been out for years

[@flubblub]

@@selinkorkmaz1019 its almost like people are IN the closet and then COME OUT of the closet, thats kinda how this whole thing goes, that was 8 years ago and this is today

[@wonyounglover]

she was in a relationship with a girl

[@mollobee]

This honestly made me tear up. This feel like your most objective observation of a celebrity, and its just so kind and understanding. I didn’t know much about Madison before watching this but I will definitely look into her more now. I HIGHLY suggest an Acacia Brinley deep dive next. She had a very similar start on the internet. Could be really interesting to have parallel story.

[@ashleynorton]

I've done an acacia deep dive! It's one of my older videos so the quality is not the same. But yes, a lot of parallels in the saddest ways

[@DumiNihi]

It's crazy how they "exposed" her for having the audacity to share that he abused

[@HHAASSS]

Hearing that “freestyle rap”?????? Was so painful

[@lizzyblitz07]

THANK YOU! It was so god awful, while making fun of someone, I cannot believe he didn't get absolutely flamed for that. YOU have sh*t to say when you're acting like THAT?

[@tessapal]

Her mom’s the villain of this story, oof. Especially with the stuff about Colleen Ballinger coming to light, I totally get the “it’s weird to be besties with and heavily rely on a fan” take. There’s an inherent power imbalance in that relationship that could easily be taken advantage of.

[@suoutubez19]

I agree, and the fact that she puts her mom on a pedestal is so sad.

[@heathermartin7459]

@@suoutubez19 NO FR. I didn’t know about all of this stuff with her mom but she always posts about her and I thought her and her mom were close with this amazing relationship. Kind of sounds like her mom exploited her and didn’t protect her

[@leahdavis9434]

​@@heathermartin7459unfortunately it's often both. When an abuser is involved in your formative years, you can be really close to them and rely on them and defy them receiving justice for what they did to you while also knowing and seeing what they did to you as it is

[@rosieglows]

She's absolutely stunning. I feel bad for her because of the jealousy and internalised misogyny of her peers.

[@bipedalspider2248]

As a monster high fan I too believe everything Madison Beer did in that era is iconic

[@nataliarocha9820]

sounds like taylor was mad she hook up with “everyone” except him lmao

[@buttersaltedpopcorn]

im actually in love w ur account. the way u talk about these people's lives w such empathy i genuinely admire

[@jennd2515]

Has that boy who leaked the pictures ever been called out? What a terrible person. Shame on him, and I hope he's faced some consequences...

[@ruliak]

You are doing such important work for us (gay people)

[@squirrel.fingers]

1:00:19 “Two women can have similar styles and exist without being pitted against one another” SAY IT LOUDER

[@janelane187]

ASHLEY for the love of GOD drop the dewy skincare/makeup routine. You are glowing

[@ashleynorton]

Thank you! the camera and ring light works a lot of magic, believe me

[@gule111]

Thanks for this video. I never looked into her story really. I just knew that she was being hated but i never knew why. This video completely changed my perspective on her and I truly admire her strength for being able to live with such a horrible past. What an admirable woman

[@feelgood2994]

14:40 What the hell is by Avril Lavigne, not P!nk. I know that must irk that you missed it in the edit. But good video.

[@RealGermanish]

I encourage everyone to check out her music. I went in without knowing much about her except that everyone seems to hate and it's honestly just really good music.

[@georgemichael420]

“Local jar of radioactive mayonnaise” 😭😭😭😭😭😭💀💀💀💀💀 you are everything

[@Squella7]

The amount of plastic surgery that young stars get (likely due to pressure from adults that mange them in some capacity) is pretty absurd. These kids/young adults then get blamed for doing what they were told to do by authority figures. I clearly have no idea whether Madison has had work done on her face (besides what she mentioned). But the anger and ire from folks should be directed at the adults that force these kids to alter themselves in a way they wouldn't otherwise.

[@micagarcia2642]

She’s definitely done things that are fundamentally wrong, but literally every human being has. So she deserves some grace and room to improve.

[@catlover4319]

Madison seems like a sweetie. If anything she seems to be too forgiving and willing to let people that mistreat her stay in or come back in to her life

[@mpazinambao2938]

i like this video, most of the people who hate her should realise they are absolutely jealous of this girl and whatever they're internalising should be resolved within themselves.

[@natalym7650]

Aw poor Madison, I really feel for her and I feel so bad that she went through that. She was on Pretty Basic podcast and she was saying how she was training for her concert and was really hungry and her team wouldn’t even stop to McDonalds for her to eat. Her team is really shitty and trash. I hope she gets a better team one day.

[@WendlaBergmann]

i had no idea she went through so much. i only knew madison through the k/da songs. during the nudes section, i had to stop and walk away from the video for a bit because i was so upset. sure, there is pretty privilege out there, but society will destroy girls without a second thought. i hope she's got a good support system. (that tiktok of that girl screaming about madison's surgery though?? girl ... chill. media already creates unrealistic beauty standards. not madison.)

[@xChaosReignsx]

Madison has always been so gorgeous.. mad jealousy from people right from the beginning and it’s so obvious

[@smartestgirl]

1:13:29 I feel like Madison likes the book because she relates to Dolores. Madison was assaulted at 13 or 14

[@ripley4884]

i think that i am a madison beer stan now. thank you for approaching this story with such grace & kindness

[@AriChan-e8y]

I loved her on monster high. The victim blaming she experienced was crazy.

[@cucumberbreezee]

the picture of Madison standing behind a tree at a doctors office went so viral

[@danaejer]

It's believed that Madison sold her doll to a doll youtuber's kid, but I really I'm not sure about it.

[@michime7860]

Poor Madison :(( no one deserves S.A

[@chasingdaze]

On the League of Legends stuff (as someone who doesn't play): they famously have always had wildly good animation for promos it's sick

[@sari9645]

This is such a great video! Like most people I used to dislike Madison Beer because I was under the impression she used BLM as a photo op but seeing not only that that was a false rumor but how much Madison has been through made me check out her music and it’s really good! I highly recommend anyone reading this checks out her newest album

[@user-vq9lx6zq4k]

You’re so respectful throughout the whole video ❤

[@Levi_Tollefson]

So that Taylor Caniff dude must have been rejected by her or something. Still doesn't excuse his dumb ass obviously, but I can't figure out any other reason he'd dislike her so much. Can't just be because she's wish his friend

[@mariya_tortilla]

The way Madison was treated post her child p*rn release is so insanely sick and twisted. I had no clue any of this was going on. I didnt even know about the leaked image from Madison. Literally a child who was duped by her sick peers and then attacked basically by the media and the adults around her. THATS CHILD p0RN FNSDLJFDKFJDKLS:FJ ooohhh that makes me so angry. "hope you all enjoy that child porn you sick fucks," is what i wish she tweeted, but hindsight is 20/20 obviously. Make them all know what theyre doing point blank is a crime! UGH!! People make me SICK!! im so glad people are realising that thats a crime being committed AGAINST HER

[@carolinenitardy6231]

BAE WAKE UP NEW ASHLEY VID JUST DROPPED 💯‼🙏

[@fr0giewrld]

I ALMOST SPAT OUT MY MILK WHEN YOU SAID "something tells me this child is a gemini" 😭😭😭

[@vawqer1744]

I love these deep dives! If you're looking for people suggestions, I think it could be cool to do one on Charli XCX. I don't think she's very controversial (besides that one Taylor Swift comment that was taken totally out of context), but her music career is interesting with a lot of odds twists. Plus, she has the documentary about her pandemic album.

[@ArtesLemures]

The song "Villain" may not be her style, but god damn how much of a bop it is!

[@sladunkaAa]

i had to pause this video and go listen to KDA since you mentioned it, its been a whole two weeks that i havent listened to them or arcane soundtrack ooo

[@antoniamariamocanumic8844]

The hate for this girl it’s so forever for so many years like… now everyone loves her. Ironic 😔

[@Grace-qr8yr]

I feel so bad for everything that’s happened to her. Looking at her you’d never guess what she’s been through.

[@runa7618]

this video made me realize I know nothing about madison beer despite being very much conscious during her rise

[@rivadavis5050]

It’s so sad that beautiful young women are just the worlds punching bag. People just can’t let other people win

[@astralspeckles]

being beautiful and talented is like walking around with a target on your back. Im surprised her songs arent bigger, there pretty good

[@jillm9165]

why did that jack/madison audio shake me to my core!!! omg flashbacks of my fucking psycho ex

[@zoegarden]

two of the girls in K/DA w/ Madison are actually in the girl group (G)-IDLE! If you like K/DA, you’ll like their stuff

[@officialellimac262]

Every Taylor Caniff clip was unbearable. Thank you.

[@Nicolesid1]

I agree with the weird feeling of a fan being her BFF. I was around when Selena was killed, so yeah😳

[@jlaurenk]

Love this video, your commentary, and all the effort you put into this!! 🫶🏼

[@Angelll36]

i never really comment here, but, the video is sooo well written. as a big kda fan i oddly didn’t expect to see kda here, it kinda melted my heart to see u appreciate arcane and kda songs in general! her past just breaks my heart since I been through the exact same situations as her - she’s a big safe place for me. thank you sm for this video

[@oniricodosfatos8286]

1:09:17 ooooooh my GOD, no one is responsible for the way other people perceive them... so what that there are celebrities with crazy bodies and faces?? I cannot hear someone saying dumb stuff like this and not seeing the envy behind this. This video has truly made me sympathize with Madison.

[@sims4cowgirl]

I need a correction okay... what the hell is not sung by pink!!!! It is Avril LAVIGNE...

[@_enki]

the magcon section....i need those boys DECIMINATED at once!

[@sleepyghostgirl]

every man mentioned in this video deserves jail time

[@thebirdandthecricket]

wow, i had no idea about so many things in this vid, especially that madison has BPD. I just got diagnosed this summer and its been really hard; definitely want to read her book now for some solace

[@MissJeriB]

Man, connections and privilege helped a lot in getting her platformed

[@MissJeriB]

you were pretty charitable in the BLM part...

[@MissJeriB]

ok I dont know a lot about maidson but this video is very very very charitable.

[@MichouThe]

​@@MissJeriBwhat do you exactly mean with charitable?

[@gracekelly2282]

OMG i remember your old video talking about making this video, and wow i never guessed it was gonna be madison beer (don’t know her much) so i’m super excited. Like most the people you cover i never heard of and yet i find your videos so great and relaxing, so just trying to say thank you and you’re really talented at this stuff

[@missbellaiza]

I just want Madison beer to grow and omg she’s thriving and is happy. Wish me and her can be friends ❤

[@FireyCurls22]

14:39 “What the Hell” by AVRIL LAVIGNE lol

[@rivers0ng]

I actually think madison served that argument with that girl, shows all trolls are cowardly children irl but the shot of all the converse is making me WEAK

[@dieSchreckschraube]

I'm surprised you recommend Celebrity Memoir Book Club. I used to be a listener, but the ignorance of the hosts towards so many topics and their expressed reluctance to change anything about said ignorance really turned me off. They often are so vapid and superficial and sometimes outright mean. They often aren't willing opr prepared to look at things from any other angle than their own narrow world view. The longer I listened, the more frustrating it became. There are several better podcasts out there in the field of celebrity autobiographies.

[@BrandiG31]

Your videos just get better and better 💖

[@sydneyelise7260]

Step 2- Marry Justin Foolproof 😂😂😂😂😂 Took me out

[@-FartNoise-]

the courage it takes to stay and work to become an independent artist when the entire internet has brutally beaten you alive. She is truly a strong person.

[@Happy_Adjacent]

This is one of the first deep dives that has made me stop what I’m doing to listen and genuinely cry for this woman. I’m glad you do these videos, it not only introduces me to different celebrities I otherwise wouldn’t know, but it opens my eyes to just how traumatic things can be behind the scenes. 🩵

[@madisonemily4083]

wow David Dobrik really sucks. telling a woman you got off on what you thought was her underage, leaked nudes is not the compliment he thinks it is. she should've dropped him then!!

[@emilyr8668]

he needs to be put on some sort of panel to answer for his long list of crimes

[@dysmissme7343]

My jaw genuinely dropped that is UNHINGED

[@JayPee575]

That’s literal child p

[@mariya_tortilla]

PUT him on the sex offender list.

[@chillarypuff]

He's so fucking weird

[@wheresthelambsauce8273]

the hate towards her is a mixture of jealousy & sexism

[@emmichelleyellow]

Completely agree

[@Lore.n]

So true, I’ve never really seen valid criticism of hers. I would understand if people disliked her cause she was mean, or stuck up but she actually seems so sweet. I think the only criticism of hers that I can agree with is her lying about her lip fillers, but I think she got them dissolved (correct me if I’m wrong)

[@lexiesawyer1583]

Exactly. She just minds her business and makes music.

[@G333M]

spot on

[@KaydenVelasquez-y8j]

No it's also because of her saying the n word and using the black lives matter protest as a photoshoot.

[@graceann457]

Madison is a victim of the internet in every sense.

[@Beautyg111rl]

She deserves sm better

[@whatever3145]

Lol no she isn't. She's a wealthy connected white girl. She sucks.

[@KaydenVelasquez-y8j]

​@@Beautyg111rl it's also because of her saying the n word and using the black lives matter protest as a photoshoot

[@fawndonut]

@@KaydenVelasquez-y8jshe didn’t say the n word and she’s been hated wayyyyy before 2020

[@user-pi9de6nq5l]

@@KaydenVelasquez-y8jgirl that shit never happened yall literally believe anything

[@mouthbreatherz]

people criticizing madison beer for saying her favorite book is Lolita even tho she herself was a girl being groomed and sexualized from the age of 13 feels......weird. like have we considered she maybe related to dolores in a way or are we just gonna assume the worst of her and also discredit this book that, while heavily portraying pedophilia, does not endorse it in any way and could resonate with a lot of young women who have been groomed by their own humberts

[@doubleh333lix]

yeah, it’s also an objectively well written novel. you can like frankenstein without relating to dr frankenstein too.

[@vlogily8043]

Agree, but also agree with her response to people, like that dark subject matter can be fun for lotsa people, but some people can’t handle it and also I think she should revisit it personally and see if she still likes it and also try and see if she can find a book she likes better, because then she would be reading which is good for her and also rereading it she could have more insight and fun with it

[@Rose-hh7mk]

Right? A lot of people with trauma tend to read books and watch movies that involve that trauma to see others' POVs even if they're fictional.

[@aleynazkll]

she also said that she was sa’ed and s** abused at age of 6, so sad…

[@cluelessascher6195]

thats not why she was criticized. after saying her favorite book was lolita during a livestream someone commented “please don’t tell me you romanticize lolita” to which she responded “i definitely do but we’re not gonna talk about that”…

[@taylorgayhart9497]

“Gorgeous girl at 14.” Can we PLEASE stop this creepiness!!!

[@ARIADNE204]

Ikr, that was so GROSS and CREEPYYYY!!!

[@peepeehead2633]

I snapped my neck to look at the screen bc i couldn’t believe what that man said….

[@v01d747]

so glad i wasn’t the only one who caught that

[@briansupermega5692]

He said 13 not 14

[@demetriam2408]

​@@briansupermega5692that's WORSE 😭😭

[@starsiadraws]

As someone who only thought of Madison beer as "one of those tikTok girls who got famous for being pretty and doing dumb dance trends," this video has really opened my eyes to see that she's much, much more than that. From her abusive ex, to the leaked nudes, to the internet constantly dragging her name through the mud, ALL WHILE BEING A CHILD, I sincerely hope she is able to heal from everything she's been through and finds peace someday.

[@angelmata5976]

Am glad am not the only one who thought this 😅

[@tenzinselden3533]

Her voice is soooo good how can ppl not see this

[@svgerd]

@@selenesaint they admit they didnt know much about her + were wrong about her - you don't have to be young have avoided really looking into a celebrity. some people just dont pay much attention to celebrity culture, honestly maybe those who look too much into it are the out of touch ones... what is your point in making this comment when og's changed their perception on her and wishes her the best?

[@emily11106]

@@selenesaintpeople like you who constantly bring out the insult of young age are so boring.

[@wheresthelambsauce8273]

@@tenzinselden3533 true... she is a super talented girl but people overlook that and only focus on her looks.

[@memepink6202]

Madison reminds me so much of Megan Fox; both starting in the media at young ages and being overly sexualized aswell as hated by the media for not apparent reason than just being associated with other people, being completely judged by anything they did and didn't.

[@yespls4184]

Her vibe always reminded me a bit of Megan Fox. I think she got a lot of intense hate out of jealousy

[@astridvvv9662]

They both suck.

[@danaejer]

They both look alike. Maggie Lindemann has a similar story as well and she also kind of looks like both of them

[@dreamkitty]

it’s insane how society picks and chooses how to treat very pretty people. either you become a fav in hollywood or bullied relentlessly

[@joelman1989]

I saw this post on Instagram “what’s a celebrity you hate for no reason” and Madison was the most common name. I was mostly appalled 98% names were women but this makes it so much worse.

[@heyitsrin6556]

sadly it doesn’t surprise me that most of them were women, it still makes me really upset though 💔

[@flowerheit4512]

​@@heyitsrin6556i guess I hope that the reason they were mostly women is that men celebrities seem to always give us a reason to hate them

[@KS-vf3ru]

@@flowerheit4512literally! When I read the original comment I immediately thought about how I hate Matthew McConaughey but then I realized that I actually have reasons for that lol

[@Handwoven8138]

Anne Hathaway is another one. Literally the most inoffensive celebrity I could think of yet people/tabloids were ruthless about her

[@Aidynoh]

@@Handwoven8138she is genuinely one of my favorite celebrities! She’s so sweet and genuine!

[@BrookeAlesya]

I’m a huge monster high fan and like…. If someone on the spot asked me to explain “frights , camera, action” in an interview my brain would melt? There’s a bunch of random shit that happens ?? And explaining any of it would give away the entire twist ?

[@ashleynorton]

She was just avoiding spoilers

[@Lacmene8]

frights camera action is such a hot mess tbh, i'm big into MH but its honestly one of the messiest movies (boovies) ive ever seen

[@sanabakkoush]

i always find it weird when ppl hate on women like madison for "setting unrealistic beauty standards" because these beauty standards are rooted by misogyny. madison is not a perpetrator, she is a victim of misogyny with or without plastic surgery

[@sanabakkoush]

also at this point in time, we need to move forward from villainising people who undergo cosmetic surgeries.

[@Its_about_drive_its_about_po]

Yes cause why she is being blamed about a whole societal issue?? And one that also actively harms her??

[@alwaysrootingfortheantihero123]

I haaaaate when people say that a woman is pushing unrealistic beauty standards just because she happens to be one of the few who fulfils those standards

[@horizonkyun7203]

@@alwaysrootingfortheantihero123 she’s naturally stunning, but she’s certainly gotten something done.

[@horizonkyun7203]

i mean? one can be a victim and a perpetrator. i think the whole “setting unrealistic standards” thing is weird anyway, because it’s so bizarre to police people’s bodies like that. but you can be a victim and then perpetuate the harm.

[@trinifernandez8870]

I love Jack's argument of "Yeah, I verbally abused her, but she POSTED about it ANONYMOUSLY, so who is really the bad guy here?".

[@layton6202]

She is what she did was a very predatory form of manipulation

[@Strawlighte]

It sounds like she was so exploited in other peoples quest for fame. It’s sad to hear she was so unprotected from harassment and abuse. I hope she’s getting the support and love she deserves!

[@niaivy]

❤❤❤❤

[@cariwhyte]

nothing will ever top the pure serviage of “who’s ur friend????” like she really conquered that entire interaction i can’t lie

[@commentsareuss]

Not far into the video at all and already put off by the news man saying “gorgeous girl at 13” idk if that was necessary sir

[@firestarhk3875]

Okay I’m glad I’m not the only one

[@ashleynorton]

Totally agree. That was probably just the tip of the iceberg

[@Urmominator9000]

Why did she have pay someone to take down videos of child porn? That’s fully what it was.

[@CRUSH40GIRL]

MADISON MADE THAT WHY BE RACIST WHEN YOU CAN BE QUIET QUOTE??? It’s so iconic I’ve seen it everywhere for years now, what an icon!

[@astroblast2325]

She didn't first tweet it, I had to look it up, lol. It was a guy named Brandon who first coined the quote

[@saneira]

@@astroblast2325 thank you for doing the research 🙏 I wasn't sure but I thought that quote had been around for a bit before that time period. And also that era of pop culture twitter was so rife with people tweeting cute or funny quotes as their own tweets so it was so hard to tell who were the originators

[@papadzules]

I remember seeing a picture of frank ocean wearing a tshirt with that quote on, in tumblr Years ago. But I dont know What happened first..

[@es1645]

I seriously doubt she came up with it, I saw it on tumblr back in like 2013 on t shirts

[@danaejer]

​@@papadzulesI also saw Michael Clifford wearing a shirt that had that quote, but that was from around 2018

[@rkkwc]

i think criticizing a girl whose body has been constantly scrutinized by grown ass people for her entire life for finding lolita particularly interesting is kind of fucking crazy. it's like people can't possible imagine this girl engaging in critical reading. maybe her words on the book weren't the best-thought but this assumption that someone's favorite book is their favorite because they relate to or agree with its narrator (especially in the case of a book like lolita!) is ridiculous.

[@vicquemare]

they don't have critical thinking skills and no understanding of the book beyond the botched adaptations and they are going to take it out on everyone else.

[@kwangya]

i mean.. it's not like her words were taken out of context since she herself said she romanticized the book.

[@lisafenzi9739]

@@kwangya yeah but especially considering her life story and waht she went through at such a young age, i don't know why ppl feel they should hate her for it. A lot of survivors are drawn to this book and it's probably a big reason why it's legacy remains so strong despite the countless botched adaptations. Maybe she relates to Dolores in some ways, maybe it helps her make sense of her situation, maybe she answered without really considering the weight of the question since she was on instagram live ???

[@kwangya]

@@lisafenzi9739 it’s different to romanticize the book and appreciate it bc u relate to a character. she clearly said she romanticizes it. there’s not an excuse. what is there to romanticize as a survivor on a book that is all abt how a 12yo is being groomed by a middle aged man, especially when the book is written by the pov of the pedophile?

[@goeatsanta5600]

right. just because I watch a Jeffrey Dahmer movie, that doesn't mean I think serial killers are cool. people can like darker media without it being a reflection on them

[@Effexxor]

Also, I really love these kinds of videos. Not to sound parasocial, but it reminds me of hanging out with your slightly tipsy friend as she infodumps about the internet rabbit hole she went down a few days ago. The drama is no stakes for you, you get to learn about some random thing that you never would have known about and everything is chill, fun and safe.

[@meghansullivan6812]

Absolutely!!

[@jessicamattes4208]

Describing Taylor Caniff as "local jar of radioactive mayonnaise" is one of the most accurately eloquent descriptions I've ever heard of a person. Thank you Ashley for giving me a new phrase to add to my insult vernacular

[@hannahnielsen7403]

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!! LIKE IT COULD NOT GET ANYMORE ACCURATE

[@SaintAvangeline]

I didn’t realize her rise to fame was so tragic and horrifying. It’s insane how so many famous women’s horrific stories of abuse are simply brushed and glossed over and everyone forgets. So gross. (Before I get a nitpick response, I’m specifically referring to celebs in this context and I’m aware this happens to women as a whole, celeb or not.)

[@umairashraf5167]

What do you mean brushed over? Rihanna's abuse by Chris Brown is talked about all the time his name is brought up ,also Taylor brings up names of her ex's and she's praised? Talk about having a victim mentality

[@SaintAvangeline]

@@umairashraf5167 just looked at your previous comments and replies to ppl on this channel and I'm not surprised you'd take my comment like this. Gross lmao. Good job. You mentioned 2 famous women (who are often berated and Chris brown is still praised).

[@umairashraf5167]

​@@SaintAvangelineand? IDK about Rihanna but Taylor still gets praise and admiration from her fans and peers for her lyrics of her ex's ,who actually likes Chris Brown? Cuz everytime I see his name brought up, people always bring up Rihanna Again y'all are stuck in this victim mentality which I find annoying because it's not like this happens every time , Madison still has fans and still is here despite everything and you all just take pity like she's dead.

[@chickenstrips5313]

Didn’t know much about Madison before this vid. But this girls life after becoming famous is literally depressing and devastating Fr. This poor girl.

[@edwarddorey4480]

You should place an apostrophe between "girl" and the "s" that follows, i.e., "girl's." As your statement stands, your second sentence has incorrectly used the plural version of "girl."

[@SaintAvangeline]

@@edwarddorey4480Do you get off by correcting everyone’s grammar in the comment section? This isn’t the first comment of yours that I’ve seen doing this. Cringe.

[@edwarddorey4480]

@@SaintAvangeline Good God, I do.

[@blondiesaband]

@@edwarddorey4480 well no one's impressed so maybe put an end to that

[@psychoPilgrim36]

@@edwarddorey4480using correct punctuation is not important in a youtube comment

[@puffball4484]

I hate that we terrorize under aged girls for sexualizing themselves as if we don't live in a society that tells girls from a very young age that their only worth as a female is their sexual currency. As if we don't live in a society founded on the male gaze in which they will be sexualized anyway even if they do nothing, ESPECIALLY if they fit traditional beauty norms like Madison does.

[@umairashraf5167]

That's bs to me,underage girls shouldn't and Should not be sexualized. what is this with "expressing yourself"? , sounds like something a pedo would say

[@layton6202]

Blaming society for what you do can only go so far before it’s just you

[@recreatio]

@@layton6202 it is society's fault though, for the most part

[@layton6202]

@@recreatio really it’s societies fault she keeps on finding herself in these situations?, doctoring a story about your ex being abusive so you can win some sympathy points

[@bilbo7115]

@@layton6202 jack being verbally abusive is a fact though? there is video proof

[@martharopp3911]

I’m realizing a lot of negative feelings I had towards Madison Beer when she first became famous were based in jealousy and misogyny. I think she was treated horribly by boys and men, but also by women and girls who should’ve stood by her more but couldn’t because of this inherent competitiveness and jealousy that can tinge our acceptance of beautiful and successful girls/women. she embodies the pitfalls of that kind of anti-feminism, because I think some of the intense attacks come from people who see her living this wattpad dream and want to take that from her or make that dream less appealing by ruining it for her… I haven’t watched the whole video yet, but I’m excited to. Also the whole nepotism angle is soooooo annoying because even if the rumors are true this is how so many artists lie or fudge things to seem like they are more home grown. To be honest compared to someone like Dakota Johnson or Lily Rose Depp, this nepotism is like the least egregious case ever.

[@huijan8036]

Yyhyay

[@TheNecromorphkiller]

"She embodies the pitfalls of that kind of anti feminism" sounds like there is a kind of anti feminism that is good, so I hope ur journey is going well ❤️ lol

[@umairashraf5167]

What do you mean by that she "embodies pitfalls of anti-feminism" can you elaborate please?

[@espeon871]

I agree, it was so awful!

[@espeon871]

@@umairashraf5167 like she embodies the pitfalls of how people blinded by their own biased hate like oh shes a prettier girl thus i have to tear her down cuz that means im not as good that people were conditioned due to misogyny for eg, to see her as a person and just found whatever reason to get at her.