Madoka Magica Rebellion - Homura and Sayaka confrontation English Dub

[@Yams-Hams7734]

I think what impressed me most about this scene, was the fact that Sayaka was sympathetic of Homura, rather than hostile. It shows how much she matured, she doesn’t have the black and white mentality that she once had. One of the very things that held Sayaka back, was her mentality, her way of thinking. So we really see Sayaka at her best in this movie.

[@spiritualsnail1584]

Yes ! I rewatched the series and noticed how wrong Sayaka always used to be about Homura. But in rebellion, she knows exactly who she really is and even understands her feelings before Homura herself does

[@chunkmcbeefnob717]

Even in the second session, it's shown if Sayaka can find the inner strength to overcome the way she thinks, she becomes a truly spectacular Magical Girl.

[@inesatt1313]

@@chunkmcbeefnob717 She is the best

[@abbycollins]

And that’s why she’s gonna REALLY hate Homura come movie 4…

[@wombat9793]

accepting herself made her far stronger and I love it

[@Nemezja]

Yall I LOVE Sayaka so much in this scene. She's playful, knowledgeable and FIERCERLY confident. And this unnerves Homura SO DAMN MUCH!! She never took Sayaka for a worthy opponent. In the original series Homura could agitate Sayaka by just existing while Homura herself just stayed aloof and above her. But here Sayaka teases her, saying that "if she stopped to think for a second she'd have figured that out", makes a very daring move by stopping her attempt use her shield, and challenges her every thought. Sayaka's her equal, or is even above her. She radiates power and confidence in the way she carries herself. And the worst thing of all maybe, is that Sayaka doesn't hate her. She's actually sympathetic, mockingly playful, but never, ever malicious. And all of these combined throw Homura for a loop completely.

[@bobagaming4074]

yes eXACTLY

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

Shut the fuck up Homura Ass kisser B4 I end you!!

[@atomykebonpyre]

I often see Sayaka get a lot of backlash because of this scene because she knew the whole time that Homura was a witch and she should have just told her, but what they don't understand is that just telling her outright would best case scenario have Homura just deny it and brush it off as Trademark Sayaka assholery, or worst case scenario, Homura transforms into a witch instantaneously at this realization and the stress of such a sudden upset in the delicate balance of her labyrinth would cause the entire labyrinth to straight up collapse. what she's actually doing is trying to clue Homura into the fact that she's a witch by sympathizing in hopes of weakening Homuras witch based hatred, and trying to walk her through each possible witch, which is interrupted by Homura's first attempt to stop time right as she's about to bring up the possibility of Homura being the witch. If Homura hadn't pulled out her shield to stop time when she did at 1:28, sayaka would have pointed out how the unorthodox nature of the labyrinth being made to maintain a status quo rather than lure victims lined up accurately to how everything about Homura revolves around Madoka's safety and the maintenance of a specific dynamic between Homura and Madoka and the rest of the group.

[@Un.Lavi.]

Sayaka isn't above homura. You can't beat time itself. Even if u tried.

[@bustapunk101]

Confidence that comes from overcoming your demons

[@TheQuashingoftheTub]

People complain that Sayaka should have just told Homura she was a witch. The thing is she did. She gave Houra every hint possible. If Sayaka had outright said it, she would have risked Homura snapping or even getting herself killed.

[@MP-qj1wp]

Not only that there is also the huge chance Homura wouldn’t believe her. I dont mean to say this in a bad way but homura sees herself as above the others, except for madoka. I really doubt Homura would believe Sayaka of all people. At least thats what i think

[@MurderedHer0es]

@@MP-qj1wp ya know I don’t think Homura sees herself as above everyone else, she just doesn’t get close because she can only allow herself to focus on Madoka.

[@らごでぃ]

さやかはこのほむらの望んだ世界で少しでもいい夢をほむらに見させてあげたかったのではないかと思います。 1番魔法少女として苦しんできたのはほむらなのだから…

[@arcikkus8227]

not to mention the incubators were watching so it's highly likely that they would have done seen that and tried to manipulate madoka even further

[@hydrofalls8154]

@@らごでぃ hope you can understand this even with Google traduction. The same way I hope I understood you. But that's a great theory. Makes it even more sympathic.

[@r.r815]

I just realized this was basically the first time for decades that the other girls have been unpredictable to homura and that's why she was caught off guard when confronting sayaka in particular

[@mlgproplayer2915]

Ikr!

[@ImmaNort]

Homura: Time freezes! The Wor-*sword in shield* Sayaka: lol no

[@ユサリム]

Were you trying to say the world!? #touhoureference

[@avidarois5505]

Yumekoji Kera You thought it was a Touhou reference, but it was me, the obligatory Kono Dio Da joke!

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

#boycott SHAFT 4 anime sequel to Rebellion

[@linwoodvalentine7693]

Sword in shield past pk reference.

[@yukakkatan8952]

Oktavia: Ora Ora Ora Ora Ora Ora Ora Homulilly: Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda

[@deejay5627]

I know many have said this already, but I really like how Sayaka has changed and grown since the series.

[@piscesthedragon7777]

In Rebellion, Sayaka remembers every single previous timeline. This may be a factor in her maturity here.

[@riopratamamartin7870]

Cookie the Dog ah yeah and since she's already daed

[@kerdunne3422]

Sayaka is probably reflecting on the times she was a massive bitch to Homura in the other timelines when she tried so hard to save them. So when Homura turns into a witch Sayaka empathizes with her and wants to help her in return.

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

Well you can't say the same think when Homira becomes the devil & starts acting like a dick. Personally I hope Homura dies in the upcoming sequel.

[@inactiveandsavedforarchive9312]

@@EveryMan-yz1ce but that's all an act

[@NegativeEdge64]

Did anyone else think Sayaka's behavior was threatening as hell when they first saw this? I was on edge the whole time. Summoning Octavia at the end just made it ten times worse.

[@plasmagruntabby2606]

She's a middle schooler you sicko.

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

And, yet, it was all an illusion since she never intended to fight Homura.

[@BratzRockAngels]

elgatochurro It used to be legal for child marriages, doesn't make it right.

[@bladeblaster1297]

+DarkFiraga64 When this scene happened I was shook .

[@kairou_mikael]

I thought it was badass tbh

[@KurosakiRasenGun]

The back head tilt Sayaka did... Homura did it at the end of the movie

[@Xkun01]

Kyoko did it before both of them.

[@nicholasadam4112]

Zaiho Welcome to the SHAFT head tilt

[@bat_mobile7545]

They called it PAYBACK

[@vaibhavdabwalv1]

The signature shaft head tilt

[@juanpablorobayo9891]

Homura was sassy to the very end

[@Monsicorn]

I like how when Sayaka is about to summon Oktavia, the sky turns into the exact same stars that Madokami has within her dress. Sayaka is calling upon the Law of Cycles to summon her witch, so of course there would be a physical sign.

[@Asmokedetector]

She tried to bring Homura back out into the real world, realized that Homura was going to win and dipped lol. But really, I like this scene, now knowing who this Sayaka is and why she's here makes the scene so much better. Knowing that this Sayaka was sent by Madokami makes the questions and responses she gives to Homura just that more satisfying lol. I love how at 2:36 , after almost laughing at the thought that Homura wants to kill the witch that made that place, knowing that it is Homura herself, she switches to trying to convince Homura that this place might not be so bad, as if shes trying to stop Homura from finding the truth, almost like she's trying to stop a suicide.

[@flavafee]

Wow, nice catch! Thanks for sharing. 4:30 for anyone wondering

[@raixira]

​@@AsmokedetectorIn a very real way, that's exactly what she's doing, because that's exactly what Homura tries to do the instant she becomes a witch.

[@Asmokedetector]

@@raixira still waiting for the next movie

[@raixira]

@@Asmokedetector I feel that, I need it so bad lol

[@yermamuwu6196]

The "oh shit" look on Homura's face when Sayaka jams her shield tho 😂

[@nicholasadam4112]

"Start there, work backwards an-- No"

[@yermamuwu6196]

Nicholas Adam Ha, yep. On a serious note, though, that was some pretty clever foreshadowing.

[@903IDFOLEY]

And that "oh shit" look on Sayaka's face when she tried to do the same thing again...

[@KinomotoAkito]

That moment when Sayaka summons Oktavia is when you realize she's finally matured and she's all like' bitch plz' to Homura. So awesome. :O

[@_kaazukado]

@Every One 1991 Dude wtf

[@rosemary3029]

@@_kaazukado report him he just wants attention

[@ddc_3337]

I still think homura would've EASILYYYYY defeated sayaka. Like, yeah she's matured, but OBVIOUSLY. She's been travelling with Madoka to wherenot as help.

[@erssey6168]

@@ddc_3337 4:33

[@lamaziqali2121]

​@@ddc_3337and then ppl say Sayaka fans are annoying lmao

[@harveyhale1101]

Sayaka: "We just keep working together and having fun. Is the person who wished for a life like that so evil...that she deserves to die?" Funny she says that, because in the ending...

[@lorendaemon7945]

Yeah, that's what she means, even. She knows Homura will learn the truth swiftly, and she wants her to think about it when she does, instead of falling apart.

[@opalskycanvas]

@@lorendaemon7945 I think they're referring to the fact that Sayaka calls Homura a demon for taking a piece of the law of cycles and creating her own world when thats essentially what the labyrinth was.

[@FenrirEX]

@@opalskycanvas She wasn't defying Madoka's agency in the labyrinth...

[@Unclaimed_Username]

That's called Foreshadowing.

[@hydrofalls8154]

I think it's a way to show that Sayaka's word didn't get through to her.

[@rarab1tch02]

"just so you don't have any regrets later" exactly what Hitomi told her. She has grown ughhh love her!

[@candycanestripes1305]

The sassy ones always wear a cape.

[@JasonBrodyForever]

drwholink Exactly his point.

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

Plus Homura is an immature prick. Did you pay attention to how the fight between Homura & Mami started. Mami just wanted answers but Homura chose to use her guns. BITCH!

[@iceluvndiva21]

Candycane Stripes No Capes!

[@yasminafarih3681]

@@EveryMan-yz1ce Cause Mami has a habit of not really listening or/and freaking out. Remember the series?

[@variedadesonline3926]

@@yasminafarih3681 ikr!

[@giancarlorv6073]

THIS IS SO CUTE SOMEHOW LOL BC SAYAKA KNEW HOMURA WAS THE WITCH AND SHE TOLD HER SHE IS NOT BAD FOR WHAT SHES DOING BUT AT THE SAME TIME ITS NOT CORRECT IDK IF THAT MAKES SENSE

[@daijo6158]

Why r ur cap locks on

[@giancarlorv6073]

Mari 33149 thanks queen

[@giancarlorv6073]

Gio Gio girl why r u concerned abt me, worry abt yo self

[@ChaosMyth1012]

Sayaka’s always been interesting to me. She’s presented as this typical “genki-girl”, but she’s probably one of the most intelligent and contemplative members of the groups. There are little hints early in the series that she’s really good at reading people and thinks pretty deeply about the situation she’s in, and then, when she _does_ do something stupid, she has the maturity to quickly realize almost entirely on her own that everything that happened to her was a consequence of her own actions, that her inability to confess to Kyousuke is why they’re not together, not because she was screwed over by Hitomi, or even Kyuubey. A light push from Kyoko and some contemplation on her part was all she needed to realize that her totally selfless worldview simply wasn’t sustainable. It’s so interesting to me how much depth Sayaka had when most girls of her archetype are usually the most bland, generic, and most paper-thin of their respective casts.

[@fruit4evr]

Honestly Sayaka has such an amazing arc. A part of me wishes we got to see more of her and the group before Magica record happened. Honestly love seeing the comments analyzing sayaka so much

[@kikiscribbles]

@@fruit4evr popped in to watch this video after Magia Record's season two debut, Sayaka's writing is still amazing! We love seeing a girl pick up her parts with her friends :D

[@fegreninja7197]

I do think she’s very intelligent and introspective, but her righteous nature blinds her perception at times. For instance, she just assumes that Homura let Mami die because she only stopped Charlotte after her death, even though Homura was restrained by Mami’s ribbons and couldn’t help. Granted, Madoka is partially to blame since she was there when Homura was restrained and could’ve explained in more depth to Sayaka than just “that’s not it,” but I still blame Sayaka for jumping to conclusions without having the full picture. She also misunderstood Kyoko but she became more understanding after she let Kyoko explain her reasoning.

[@CrimsonEyeVermillion]

Sayaka as the wiser and sensible one. Hell froze over.

[@903IDFOLEY]

She freaking cheated really... Once she is disconnected from the Law of Cycles, she's immediately back to her old ways - Pointing fingers and judging others with her black and white sense of morals.

[@richiegonzalez5679]

To be fair, this was before Homura decided to capture Madoka and rewrite the world she created, thus rendering her efforts moot. While it wasn't right, Sayaka was understandably pissed.

[@903IDFOLEY]

Princess Agwaze The creators didn't say a lot of things. You get exactly nowhere watching Madoka if you don't use you own head and put the pieces together. Sayaka is wise because she was part of the Law of Cycles and basically knew everything Godoka knew. So yeah, Sayaka cheated - She is only wise in the same way a guy with access to google is wise.

[@michalsoukup1021]

@ня Exactly, Miss Miki has ZERO reasons to treat DevilMura as anything but enemy

[@michalsoukup1021]

Homura is not THAT wise, she got to cheat big time in the series, she has the benefit of having ran every single permutation of the scenario.

[@KendrixTermina]

This is a scene you can only really appreciate on the second viewing, both for the knowledge that it IS the actual Sayaka and the developemental implications in that, and also, the irony meter going through the roof given where the whole illusion thing came from.

[@dhampir_days]

I just absolutely adore Sayaka in the movie because she matches what Kyubey said about witches: that they're the mature form of magical girls. Sayaka in the movie has matured a lot, from letting go of Kyosuke to what she tells Homura here. she's also grown stronger. and she reminds me of the doppels from Magia Record a bit. Sayaka is no longer just a girl here, she's becoming a woman.

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

That is why she needs to be the main protagonist of the anime sequel to this movie.

[@fruit4evr]

I feel almost like if there was a way to somehow “stop someone from becoming a witch” permanently it would be them maturing in some way or facing their problems. It could also be proven by how Kyubey choose teenage and pre teen girls mostly because at that age kids go through a lot of change and emotional development. Basically Persona 4 is what would happen if Madoka Magica had a good ending. If u over come ur problems u don’t die :D

[@fruit4evr]

Also it’s so interesting how you say witches are the mature forms of magical girls. Almost like witches are the magical girls as if they over fame their problems but as monsters. Personally I don’t get this because many witches show examples of the magical girls former problems and trauma as if they had not been over come or had not matured so idk. This is so fun to think about lol so thanks for commenting

[@fruit4evr]

Omg WAIT REMEMBER WHEN SAYAKA TURNED INTO A WITCH. She said “I was stupid. So so stupid” and With the exception of Homura be she is in denial it is literally proof that witches are mature magical girls omggg

[@SonodaSymphony]

She also somewhat matches what Hitomi told her too when regarding their feelings for Kyousuke: “Think hard about what you want, so you don’t have any regrets later.” “Think hard about that before you do anything, so you don’t have any regrets later.” It really goes to show that her magical girl experience has only caused her to mature and I just love that.

[@starburstanimelover4336]

Sayaka is rubbing salt on a wound Homera didn't know even about.

[@ShadowSkyX]

starburst animelover she was trying to make Homora think, but couldn't state outright say what she knew. Just in case Kyubey decided to loiter around and watch them on a whim.

[@lorendaemon7945]

She's trying not to, though. She's trying to keep Homura from falling apart when she learns the truth.

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

@@lorendaemon7945 well it fails since Homura is stupid. There's no saving that bitch. That is why she needs to die in the anime sequel to Rebellion.

[@r.r815]

@@EveryMan-yz1ce wrong, wow your hate for homura is kinda sad is there something you're not telling us? :)

[@Lee-rr8dy]

Every Man 1991 Weird, because Sayaka says in the scene that this life is beautiful, but when Homura gives them that life free of all burdens she's a demon.

[@tikateeqa4825]

*heavy breathing over Sayaka's badass lines*

[@NotBamOrBing]

I fuckin know right

[@misspetals57]

Every Man 1991 dude you ok?

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

@@misspetals57 if you would sign my petition for the anime sequel to this movie be made sooner then I will be.

[@L_mk998]

Every Man 1991 lol ok

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

@@L_mk998 Great! here is the link to my petition to demand SHAFT to make the anime sequel to Rebellion. secure.avaaz.org/en/community_petitions/Akiyuki_Shinbo_Atsuhiro_Iwakami_fans_of_Madoka_Magica_Boycott_SHAFT_4_sequel_2_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_movie_3_Rebelli/details/

[@justinmullins1112]

“3 people don’t belong, witch, BeBe, and the one who remembers Madoka.” It’s subtle, but you can tell she’s certain Madoka belongs.

[@lorendaemon7945]

She knows Madoka can't be a witch. She met Kriemhild Gretchen, and this isn't her pattern.

[@caelum8160]

@@lorendaemon7945 Actually Kriemhild Gretchen could totally be a candidate in this situation. Homura has seen her, but she's never been inside her Labyrinth. Madoka/Gretchen wanted to rid the world of suffering and in this version of Mitakihara city, they are living thier dream without the fear of death or becoming witches. But what I think the original poster meant was that Homura doesn't want to believe that the Madoka in this world is fake , which is why she didn't mention her. Homura created this world because she wanted to be with Madoka again so she wouldn't see her as an anomaly

[@DawnHibiki]

This has easily one of the best dubs I've ever heard. Sarah and Cristina are incredible VAs.

[@VerityDemortem]

I agree. I prefer the subs, and can see why people have issue with the dubs, but the voice actors are not "terrible". Any problems stem solely from a need to go over their lines again. We don't know how the studio was set up or what budget they had, so we can't judge the actresses for stuff like that.

[@CBMOA]

I hear they also voiced other characters (possibly the characters from the Miraculous Ladybug)

[@card_queen]

@@CBMOA yes! Homura voices Marinette, and mami voices Alya

[@CBMOA]

@@card_queen and what character the voice actress who voiced Sayaka?

[@ShevaAlpha2002]

​@@CBMOAJinx from League of Legends, Peacock from Skullgirls, and Tifa Lockhart from Final Fantasy Abridged.

[@red2121]

This scene was so well written! Sayaka has truly grown stronger.

[@DaFlyinSkwirl]

What I get from this scene -and Rebellion in general- is that Homura is not all that powerful when the other girls know what her power is. During the OAV series, Homura was a mystery the whole time up until the end, and I remember thinking to myself she was clearly the most powerful of the bunch (save for Madoka). But Rebellion shook it up a bit. We see Mami able to fight Homura's time-stop by holding her with a ribbon. We also see a Sayaka (who is more versed in her own powers) stop Homura from using her ability with her sword, then has a nice little quip.. I LOVED that part. Sayaka definitely deserved some redemption after what happened to her in the series.

[@GeorgeMillerUSA]

DaFlyinSkwirl DUN DUN DUNN

[@VerityDemortem]

The problem is that Homura always worked alone, not trusting anybody, fighting exactly the same enemies over and over again. This means that she could only grow in her abilities to a certain point, and after that she plateaued. The other girls have been trying to live and grow, but Homura is stuck on a single thing that she cannot change, and it holds her back drastically. The arguments that Homura did what she did to help Madoka give me pause, because it's not what Madoka wants. Homura is taking away her friend's freedom to protect her, and that sounds like an abusive relationship to me. Not that this makes Homura a terrible person, because her heart is in the right place, but good people often do terrible things with the best of intentions out of despair or fear. It also doesn't help that having everybody disbelieve you when you know you're right can easily lead you into believing that those people are stupid (like discussing politics, am I right? XP). This movie makes me wonder how hard Homura actually tried to get the other girls on her side in the repeating timeline. Don't get me wrong--she's my favorite character because she's the most complex and I relate to her the most (I think Rebellion is an excellent showcase of the effects depression has on somebody's mind)--but she's proud, analytical, and an introvert. Sometimes that combination can make you give up on others helping you when there's still a way to clear up the misunderstanding. And I'm speaking from experience here.

[@fronttide]

homura is always the weakest one from the 5

[@NRobbi42]

Irfan Darmawan Yup, they even said that in episode 10. She's only as strong as the utilization of her magic.

[@fronttide]

yes, and also because she is the most veteran magical girl, she already fighting for more than ten years,

[@frankenbeary]

Many anime don't have a good dub, but Madoka Magica is an exception. Im in looooove with Sayaka's dub!!

[@XelxZlender]

Rose Quartz same

[@TruthinessChibiOtaku]

+Rose Quartz Sarah Williams makes a perfect Sayaka and is overall a great VA.

[@0neyetmany-0]

saem

[@blazedafirecat]

+ApocalypticMagicalBarty spot on. The VA for Sayaka is absolutely perfect for her character.

[@justanormalcat1839]

Fullmetal Alchemist, Haruhi Suzamiya, I Guess Dragon Ball, Soul Eater, Cowboy Bebop, and Currently Hero Academia

[@hydrosphagus9672]

When Sayaka asks what Homura will do once the latter finds the witch, and Homura says she'll kill the witch, it's pretty unnerving once we see the witch in question... ... who is Homura herself, endlessly marching to her own execution.

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

Start there, work backwards, a... let me finish my speech first!

[@NRobbi42]

"...as I was saying, why not take a load off."

[@TruthinessChibiOtaku]

Dear God I adore this scene. One of my favorites in the film. And the dub is just SO GOOD. Thanks for uploading it, dude.

[@NipahAllDay]

NP

[@Hattakiri]

The content of the text aka its dramaturgic function/effect PLUS the epochal acting of the women behind it PLUS the composition of the "stage" so to speak aka that typical "Rebellion only" style that already made history PLUS Yuki Kajiura's kinda "We're here for you"-foreshadowing background music EXACTY beginning to play at the right moment (THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INSISTING ON HER MR. BUTCHER!!).... ....thus: yup, agree, the term "perfection" was redefined by Rebby and sequences like this.

[@Noire13]

+ApocalypticMagicalBoy I completely agree with this. This is easily one of the best dubs I've ever watched in anime. I think it is better than 98% of the dubs out there.

[@dumansingh7]

+ApocalypticMagicalBoy I loved this scene too but I have to say...even though I liked Rebellion I was kind of disapointed because of how good the series was, that and Homura was one of my favorite characters and then I saw the ending of the movie...and now I don't know what to think of her. On one hand she did was she did to protect Homura but on the other she told Sayaka that she might destroy the world when she's gotten rid of the wraiths.

[@TruthinessChibiOtaku]

Jeff 21​ You mean protect Madoka. She was bluffing. She's not going to destroy the world. And she's not going to succeed in getting rid of the Wraiths. Homura's mental state and universe is pretty fragile, but she's only pretending to be the villain here. Like always. And Rebellion is better than the series because of all the character study it has, IMHO. Its also slightly more interesting and engaging, at least for me. 

[@whorkn33]

ok im sorry but I love how sayaka is just throwing huge hints at homura's face and foreshadowing almost everything and asking questions like "what are you gonna do with her?" just rubbing salt in a woynd she didnt know she had. sayaka is fucking savage

[@Animefreakee]

This is probably my favorite scene in the move. Sayaka is so much wiser now; I guess dying does that to a person.

[@ImmaNort]

Homura: Are you really Sayaka Miki? Sayaka: No, I'm John Cena. Who the hell do you think I am? Homura: Kamina? Sayaka: *facepalm*

[@iceluvndiva21]

XD I love how she's playing devils advocate to get homura to see reason. Too bad homura backstabbed the hell outta them all

[@q_energical7256]

@@iceluvndiva21playing devil’s advocate to the future devil…

[@iceluvndiva21]

I love how the light vs shadow, color choices, and even the actions they do line up with the diolauge! It really hints at who the witch is and who has come to terms with their overall life, both good and bad. *Without* giving it away too early!

[@pareos]

at 5:19 I loved how sayaka made sure she thought twice about her decisions so she doesn’t regret them later since sayaka made the same mistake

[@meadenelles840]

Octavia is the best witch period.

[@HonestFarmerLigue1Fan]

Meade Nelles Gretchen is the strongest(and the creepiest), but I kind of like Oktavia's sword

[@missgothica503]

Yasssss!!!!

[@drakofox1362]

Love Octavias design and the inspiration of the little mermaid

[@garydelahozsanjuan1508]

Scenes like this makes me love this movie. When I saw how much Sayaka has changed from the anime to here, the very first thought I had was OMG, IS THAT SAYAKA?

[@itachi0089]

She gained her memories of all the timelines, making her mentally around Homura's mental age. Sayaka now has her alternate selves' experiences, therefore she matured and became more skilled. Nice that she got positive character development in this after the series broke her (Sayaka: happy heroine who wants to do the right thing -> depressed psycho -> matures and is Madoka's loyal friend. Because of all these different sides to her character, Sayaka just might be my favourite!!!!! :D

[@ronferry4062]

I know that attitude anywhere i think that's Kyoko

[@apdroidgeek1737]

Yea its probably cuz thats not the sayaka in that timeline but all sayaka timeline combined.

[@cadenzable]

Moral of the story: SAYAKA IS A BAD ASS

[@Merisu_Sheep]

+CirrusArts Agreed

[@ARWiley1170]

Yes!

[@Nuclearburrit0]

Whereas in the series she was just BAD

[@MokaReligieuse]

Hell yeah

[@argyropoeia]

Madoka Magica. Also known as Head Tilts: the Anime

[@Raiden7284677]

Something to notice about Sayaka people seem to not realize is that she refers to Charlotte as a “she.” Throughout the original series, they referred to Witches as an “it,” as if they were never human. Here, you can see she acknowledges that the Witches are people in a way, another self of themselves, rather than just another monster to put down.

[@Hattakiri]

Sayaka became more clever and more courageous. She experienced death itself, but, and this is the critical aspect, Madoka showed her what happened in the former timelines, showed her what Kyoko did for her for instance. Therefore: Sayaka became THANKFUL!! Now she wanna be strong envough to protect Kyoko (we know that quote, don't we!) - like Bebe/Charlotte, who too wanna help Mami now! And all of the former witches met (with) each other in Madokami's "Hereafter" Thus: Most necessarily Sayaka gets veery pissed when Homura still attemps to kill witches.... BUT: Madoka did this in order to get as many help as possible, for she knew: A fully evolved Homura would be too much even for her!! (Which she of course forgot as soon as she was literally under the seal) AND HOMURA STARTS REALIZING THIS RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW!! Sayaka (alledgedly) seems to be very fine with "witchery" - which makes Homura think that someone, maybe even MADOKA HERSELF, BRAINWASHED THEM!! Of course Homura will regret those thoughts and feels abominably after the flower field scene, that will most literally set the ball rolling... Therefore: As soon as QB's seal is erased and both Homura's abilities and knowledge are fully evolved........well, y'know the result. So THIS is the true reason why this scene is so incredibly mighty. Of course: The art style, the stage setting, the voice acting, the music - all enormous, all epochal. But at the end of the day; only when a story is well done, it will make history, like Maddy Magic did from the first f** day on air.

[@123thof]

I have always felt that Sayaka's character design is the most beautiful, along with Kyoko's.

[@zinzolin14]

For some reason, Sayaka sounds really different in this scene, she seems more composed and mature than she did any other time in the anime. I like it. Does anybody see any symbolism in the water ripples in 4:04? For some reason I think they're significant. I kinda see a skull with it's mouth open in the upper middle facing the right

[@insertname2067]

sorakairi1993 ya its sayakas witch form :3

[@zinzolin14]

the lost angel amvs I'm having trouble seeing it :(

[@spirit9535]

***** It felt like she really learned a lot from her own experience. That sealed it for me when she said, "Think hard about that before you do anything, just so you won't regret it later..."

[@ray1019]

sorakairi1993 Sorry for the late reply but it's an allusion to the original tale of the little mermaid by hans christian andersen. Sayaka's final witch form is a mermaid which can be summoned by water, as seen here and in other places by blood which has water (stabbing herself). Also, in the little mermaid, after she does not earn her love's heart she turns into sea form and joins the daughters of the air/goes to heaven. Sayaka draws close parallels to this when she dies before becoming a witch, which means she has to disappear and then joins the law of cycles ^^ The original little mermaid (which inspired the disney one- which I'm not really a fan of because it doesn't do it proper justice) is a beautiful tale worth looking into. There are a lot of hidden allusions in puella magi which I can't name. Hope that clears it up!

[@zinzolin14]

Rachel Mongie Thanks for the reply! I already knew of Sayaka's story and struggle having relations with the story of the original Little Mermaid. I still think Sayaka still kinda got the short end of the stick in the end, but still better than becoming a witch. What I was referring to the shapes the ripples were forming, not exactly the water itself. I wasn't sure if they're suppose to create an image, but if what you stated was the connection, then I guess I'm just over thinking it :p

[@robinplunkett4831]

I JUST WANT A HEALTHY PLATONIC SAYAHOMU RELATIONSHIP I MEAn THEIR CHARACTERISTICS AND PERSONALITIES WORK OFF EACH OTHER SO WELL

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

Eldritch that ship will never happen. Homura Akemi only like Madoka , & she's a bitch to the others. As shown when she started that unnecessary gun fight with Mami Tomoe.

[@variedadesonline3926]

@@EveryMan-yz1ce You're Wrong, Homura cares for the others too, also the fight was understandable because pretty much EVERY TIME in most timelines Homura tried to ration with Mami she just attacked/was violent with Homura so thats why she thought talking wouldn't work that time either and then they fought...

[@dvreaux]

@@EveryMan-yz1ce and also Homura didn't shoot Mami's clone's gem when she stopped time

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

@@dvreaux she 1st attempted to!

[@EveryMan-yz1ce]

@@dvreaux Until we actually get a sequel to Rebellion where they either punish Homura, or redeem her I'm just going to block every idiot who defend that bitch.

[@Juanmartin1412]

My god, I didn't know that the English dub would be this great. I have to watch the anime and movies again but with the English dub.

[@aimia100]

All of this is so aesthetically satisfying oh my lord.

[@Caroline28483]

At the end, I may be stupid realizing this now, but Sayaka says "So you don't have any regrets" and in the series she says about being a magical girl "I'll never have any regrets" It's kind of beautiful how much she has matured

[@TheQuashingoftheTub]

I like how Homura pauses when she's about to say the third person that doesn't belong. Almost like she was gonna say Madoka.

[@giffarypramafisi3568]

Best English dub ever

[@aquadraws5833]

Mami: **tells homura she uses her time magic too much** Homura: **does it again** Sayaka: *I’m gonna have to stop you there*

[@Asmokedetector]

Homura: *does it again* Sayaka: *runs away*

[@scarlettli8885]

But Homura doesn't have other magic to use. Ribbons or swords or bows.

[@aquadraws5833]

@@scarlettli8885 *guns. She has a shit ton of guns.*

[@Asmokedetector]

@@aquadraws5833 they aren't magical

[@Asmokedetector]

@@scarlettli8885 it's sad cause the time magic really is all she has, you can still tell that she is just the little frail girl she used to be, just spamming the one move she knows.

[@deafsav]

2:40 ❤️ I love it when she throw her sword though water and turn around that way!

[@santiagosancho2317]

I just realised that Sayaka's voice actress is Sarah Anne Williams, the same voice actress from Jinx (League of legends)

[@norbertsatro6752]

I love how Sayaka asking Homura about killing witch because "she's a witch" when they both remember Sayaka was once her too.

[@SturFriedBrains]

Note for wannabe directors & writers: if you wanna do exposition or explain a complex plot for those who may have gotten lost along the way, this is how you do it. Also if you want to make shot composition of a dialogue scene interesting, this is how you do it.

[@cuteyhoney1994]

Not alot of dubs are as good as the original but I gotta say this was very impressive and it actually stayed true to the original. I already watched in sub and now I'm definitely gonna watch the dub now to :)

[@vlanaaj]

THIS SCENE MADE ME FALL IN LOVE WITH THE REBELLION MOVIE SO MUCH AND I WAS SO FREAKING HYPED WHEN HOMURA LISTED ALL THE THINGS THAT SHOULDNT BELONG IN THE WORLD JSJSJSJS LIKE THE OST WAS SO GOOD AND FITTING AND HOMURA’S VA ROCKED IT

[@Juanmartin1412]

I just can't stop loving this scene with this dub.

[@literallyme6365]

The reason Sayaka was being vague about Homura being a witch here because she knew Homura would speed run kill herself, so she tried to talk Homura out of it

[@Project32HMT32]

Homura had a feeling Sayaka was onto her, so she tried going back in time. She knew she was very well a candidate as to who could want to maintain the status quo

[@river1732]

There are three people who don't belong in this world: The 1st one is witch who made labyrinth, The 2nd one Beibei who looks just like a witch And the 3rd one is you (sayaka) who remembers witches Since homura remembers witches then she certainly does not belong there. Meaning she is indeed the 1st one.

[@michalsoukup1021]

No, her remembering witches is actually OK, because Madoka decreed it is OK.

[@aes2621]

This is the only anime that I firmly believe the English dub is equal to or in a lot of cases better than og Japanese. Sayaka’s va really just perfectly fits her and Christina Vee will always be Homura in my mind

[@mysteriesofmysteries4560]

0:35 Sayaka is doing the same pose as Kyoko does. For me it feels that my ship is growing. I know anyone can do that pose and stuff but for me.....I feel like the ship is rising up.🤗

[@matthewsubito3251]

I agree with what everyone said about how mature sayaka is that she's homura's equal or even more mentally, how someone pointed out the sky changed since she's using Madoka's power to call Oktavia. But I also liked her expression when homura kicked her, just like Bebe mentioned, 2 of them were sent besides Madoka since they we're prepared that 1 of them would get hurt or even worse die, but even if they expect the unexpected Sayaka was still surprised how physically strong homura was just like her fight with Mami, when Homura quickly kicked her gun that made her topple backward, maybe because it isn't her real body and she is already a witch, so there's most likely a magical and physical boost

[@lswritings3340]

The visuals in this anime are always so stunning!

[@spiralmatt8946]

Start there or backwards and- "slice" oh my arm fell over!

[@astronauticaI]

Everything after Homura says “And that’s what bothers me!” gives me goosebumps every time. This scene is so good.

[@Prettywitchiusaka]

I love Sayaka in Rebellion; she's at peak form having become the magical girl she always wanted to be. And then Homura had to undo all that because she couldn't just accept going to live with her girlfriend in Magical Girl Valhalla forever and ever! Yeah in case you couldn't tell, Sayaka being awesome in this story is just one among many reasons I don't like the ending to this movie.

[@variedadesonline3926]

Being Homu is suffering

[@Bubblegum_Bitter_Girlie]

Looks like another person doesn’t get it

[@lordbendtner9328]

@@Bubblegum_Bitter_Girlie get what?

[@Berrypunch3]

I get chills hearing Homura list of the 3 people who shouldn't be there

[@harveyhale1101]

The way Sayaka summons her Witch powers in this movie reminds me of the concept of Doppels in the spinoff.

[@daniel-wt2jx]

No one ever talks about how this scene is a direct parallel to the when sayaka confronts homura for containing madoka

[@KrimzonFlygon1]

Sayaka: Is the witch who made a peaceful, happy world like this so awful she has to die? Homura (remakes the universe to a peaceful, happy one) Sayaka: WHAAAARGARBL!!!!!

[@anastasia_852]

Honestly in her defense, Homura did basicly doom every other magical girl and destroy, well, God. At least in her perspective. So it's honestly understandable why she'd be mad. But its also very generous of Homura to give Sayaka a place in her new realm. Heck she even included her friends.

[@q_energical7256]

@@anastasia_852doom ? By taking away the incubators entirely, Homura saved humanity from the magical girl’s fate, rather than making a qol update to magical girls as madoka did

[@satansmascara9756]

...Goosebumps. HOLY GODOKA SO MANY GOOSEBUMPS. I didn't think they could pull it off so nicely... Woah. I mean, the dub for the series wasn't bad (-and williams was still the best actress there imo-) BUT THE DUB FOR THE MOVIES HOLY HECK. Sarah Williams fucking slays this, you really need to be able to act to pull Sayaka off and hooo boi can she act. I applaud her, she captured the feeling of the scene perfectly, you can pretty much hear the things going through Sayaka's mind in this, yet she still remains mysterious and as badass as Rebellion Sayaka should be. Heck, it's almost as good as KitaEri's original lines (and that's saying a lot, considering Eri happens to be my fave VA of all time lol). Christina Vee did a good job continuing the dialogue exchange to but dayum that expression in Sayaka. I applaud all of them, it's rare to find a dub with genuinely good acting I'm so glad they pulled it off :D

[@woeh.]

Stand name: Shield Stand user: Homura Ability: *Time stop*

[@lesujesds461]

Add "Time Rewind"

[@rapzalsos6237]

It was this moment Homura realized she's not invincible.

[@zacharytsai2043]

In english dub, when they said "Mami" I thought they said "Mommy". It was pretty funny to listen to.

[@xreinachan5872]

Yea,I know right.

[@ShadowSkyX]

Mami = Mommy Bebe = Baby

[@vaibhavdabwalv1]

Mami *IS* mother in Spanish

[@1sadsexually2sadsexually54]

MAWMI!

[@CronoTime]

rewatching this..i love the soft remix of Sayaka's theme in the background

[@Monsicorn]

Mmmmph! Sayaka is so SINISTER in this scene!

[@Vermillion808]

I do like how shes able to control Octavia completely

[@tobymartin2137]

Of the complex relationships between the individual members of the Holy Quintet, the relationship between Sayaka and Homura has always been the least harmonious. They have that energy of respect-because-of-mutual-friends thing, but genuinely Sayaka always seemed to view Homura as aloof, unfeeling, and untrustworthy, and Homura in turn views Sayaka as a naive and brash individual who's always first to fall. That this relationship has evolved here, particularly on Sayaka's side, is really interesting to see. Now that Sayaka knows more, and Homura's troubled soul is all the more obvious to her, she becomes much kinder, retaining an obvious disapproval of certain aspects of Homura's personality, but always tackling it in a constructive way. What utterly brilliant character development, in as much as it still sticks to her roots. Among this is Sayaka subtly reminding a veteran self-loather to be kind to herself, urging her to see the good of the one who formed the labyrinth before Homura realizes its her, reflected later in the movie when she reminds the others that, no matter how horrible Homulilly looks, she's the one who's suffering. And though Homura, less in the know, isn't quite as keen to put aside old grudges, she does acknowledge Sayaka has more depth than perhaps she first realizes, and is seeing for the first time why Madoka, Mami, and Kyoko all respect her the way they do. This continues at the end of the movie too, when Homura consents to confront her about what she did, defend her actions, and the worst she does to Sayaka is erase her memories (a very light fate considering what she's implied to have done to Kyubey) and even tells her that she gets the chance to live a normal life again, being able to say good morning to Hitomi and Kyouske, in an ordinary context without a hint of resentment. For as self-assurred as she is in her actions, Homura has still retained a small amount of understanding towards others. FUCK ME, THIS SERIES IS SO FUCKING GOOD...

[@riopratamamartin7870]

Hehehe that's the most creepy and cutest head tilts by sayaka ( although she is already dead )

[@curehimeproductions4031]

She was copying Kyoko, I think. She does the same thing in E5.

[@SinadeeLania]

I love both the sub and dub of this movie. Both are slightly different contextually but are still 2 sides to the same story. My favorite in this scene, the dub version seems to imply "what if the witch was Madonna, would you still kill her?" And I AM STUNNED. Nice creation of tension and conflict.

[@JabamiLain]

I know she meant to help Homura... but there's a reason why Homura didn't want to be saved. Granted, the new world is an opportunity for the girls to actually solve their problems. But I know what she did was still possessive. And the reason she followed that route was because she received validation from Sayaka and heard Madoka's true feelings.

[@johngeorge1880]

[Cinematography intensifies]

[@giuliaprimucci7603]

The soundtrack is gold

[@Imran-ky6tt]

I just love how in this scene and in the fight against Mami, Homura's time power was completely undermined. At first, you think: WOAH SHE CAN CONTROL TIME, SHE'S SO OP, but then she can easily be stopped. It really balances everything out, as Homura is extremely weak without her time powers.

[@MY0S0TIS]

0:56 I just realized that the puddles reflecting the sky look like blank spots. As if Homura's world is going to fall apart no matter which path she chooses.

[@allexismateo3386]

Sayaka: The sweets witch would snuff us out the first chance she got. Me: Remembers in Charlotte’s description that she actually lets the humans inside her labyrinth live and allows them to eat the snacks that are all around her labyrinth, but only turns aggressive if she is attacked.

[@ZanyMei]

Is that true?

[@0neyetmany-0]

damn these 2 are my favorites in the series

[@anastasia_852]

Super late reply but same. I need them to get along for once lol.

[@toneee]

Yo this dub is so good my mum just asked me what I was watching, because it really sounds like voice fucking acting and not the monotonous voiceover bull we're all used to. I'm yodelling.

[@diligantlydistracted3542]

4:11 is kinda creepy. It looks sort of like a poster warrrning about a threat that has faded out of existence,idk, that part always gives me chills, but this whole scene is kinda intense. It was sort of obvious something was up. ℝea||y*ℝea||y great acting from the VAs here, defiantly one of the better English dubs I have seen!

[@ARWiley1170]

Sayaka I love you!

[@DistantCircusMusic]

Hi thanks for uploading these clips

[@NipahAllDay]

Doll Videos 12344 No problem.

[@scarlettli8885]

Homura is flawed, and Sayaka sure did the right thing in this scene. But neither of them is perfect. Homura never took Sayaka for a worthy opponent, not because of her power, but because of her immaturity and naiveness, and dichotomous thinking. In the original series, she claimed all other magical girls are competing for grief seeds, and only Mami and she were fighting for justice, which was completely mistaken and showed Sayaka's immaturity and naiveness. You can see originally Homura had wanted to work within the team, but it didn't work well between Sayaka and her. She was always dragging down the team without consciousness, the whole witch thing, and the 'are you turning us against each other' thing. People naturally hate people who are against them, which is true for both of the two characters. and was always against anything Homura said or did even if Homura did save her twice (fetching her soul gem thrown away by Madoka and stopping the fight with Kyoko) for whatever reason. Remember in episode 10 how Sayaka questioned Homura when she was revealing the truth and said she wouldn't take her as a teammate? That hurts, especially for someone introverted like Homura. Even in the first episode of Magia Record season 2, she is always criticizing her (which of course is SHAFT's design). If it was me, I wouldn't be nice to someone who is hostile to me, either. Not to mention Homura went through it a whole lot of times. We are not saints anyway. Neither is Sayaka.

[@chopsuey897]

(I know this comment is 2 years old, but I just saw this today.) What are you trying to say with this point your making that's related to the scene in the video?

[@lavendermarshmallowplant3229]

It's always interesting to note how changed Sayaka's become in future iterations of Madoka Magica.

[@universalspaceexpeditioner8259]

Sayaka is an Angel here so not only she can move in stopped time but is immortal. experience and powerful too. Even if a prepared Homura can hold her ground against an unprepared Mami that is holding back for maximum 5 minutes and then lose, she has no chance to even hold any ground for even a second against Angel Sayaka.

[@14.huanle60]

The World vs Silver Chariot.

[@Mark_nobody3]

It would be funny if sayaka stabbed Homara by mistake. 0:10 Sayaka is like “Oh crap” 😥

[@wiicubeshipper]

Sayaka matured so much in rebellion. She was good in the og series but shes the best now

[@anastasia_852]

I love how much Sayaka's grown since the series.

[@KokoUTAU]

Seeing Sayaka's Doppel here was actually my favourite scene when i first watched it!

[@adamb6130]

Its not her doppel tho, she just straight up summoned Oktavia, doppels only exist in the magia record universe

[@KokoUTAU]

@@adamb6130 I forgot I had posted this comment. You're right tho.

[@bustapunk101]

Makes me miss something I never had