Let's not forget that Homura has been training for years, and still couldn't beat Mami. Even in other manga adaptations of various magical girls Mami was considered somewhat of a legend, and they named their moves in Italian in honor to her. Not to mention she rarely fought in full power because she fought familiars and often gave grief seeds to girls she saved. She was just that strong. Before Madoka accumulated carma because of Homura, Mami was the strongest magical girl.
@xrrgr5 жыл бұрын
Diane of the Giant Clan She deserved better.
@daydream10.185 жыл бұрын
Diane of the Giant Clan if she's so strong then how did she get killed by Bebe?
@xrrgr5 жыл бұрын
ProceedWithCaution she was caught off guard, her recent interaction with madoka and all those emotions distracted her
@TheLordSheogorath5 жыл бұрын
@@daydream10.18 Basically what Naomi said, if you read a story focusing on Kyouko and Mami, you will see that Mami was terribly lonely, and was betrayed by Kyouko, her first apprentice (tho it was more of a misunderstanding), which broke her heart. Despite all that she still tried to help Kyouko, but Kyouko kept using seeds for herself and letting familiars live which made Mami very sad. Mami was just super happy that she will have new apprentices who will try to be as noble as her, and was distracted in the fight because of that.
@malacara13355 жыл бұрын
@Patrick Star lmao you trippin', had mami really wanted to she could've stomped Homura into dust but she obviously didn't want to kill her.
Mami is super strong, that proves that she probably could have won against Charlotte if she had not meet Madoka. So basically frienship is what killed her... that's sad.
@sweetlyteaa61266 жыл бұрын
Connie Arria yeah it’s crazy when u think about it
@OctavKitty6 жыл бұрын
Nope. Charlotte was designes to be a witch that Mami couldn’t defeat. And in the timeline 0, Mami had survived until Walpurgisnacht with Madoka
@wxedsanddokx5 жыл бұрын
No, her over confidence and desperate need not to work alone did. If Madoka came into her life later she would have been focused and okay. she became complacent
@bxyhxyh5 жыл бұрын
@MahouShoujo Maisoon Mangas aren't canon.
@adoellex80005 жыл бұрын
@@bxyhxyh Uh, yeah they are. If it isn't a gag manga then it's 100% canon...
one of my favorite parts of this fight is how they both look shocked/worried/remorseful throughout most of it , cause they dont really want to hurt eachother, but will to accomplish their goals
@D.m0nio5 жыл бұрын
I liked the fact that they kept consistent in the soul gem thing, Homura shoot herself in the head anyway, but the real body is the soul gem, which didn't receive any damage
@eduu7294 жыл бұрын
Mami didn't know that in this "timeline"
@D.m0nio4 жыл бұрын
@@eduu729 Ooh I see, that's why she reacts that way (Hey, you can't blame me, the story in this thing is all over the place)
@michellelew73074 жыл бұрын
Homura already knew that harming her body wouldn't hurt her but Mami didn't know that
@who-the-fuckgivesafuck4 жыл бұрын
No fucking clue what you're on about. Mami not having a head killed her regardless of soulgem. What made homura survive is not hitting a vital part of her brain.
@moreno_cookie57824 жыл бұрын
@@who-the-fuckgivesafuck mami's soulgem was on her head
You see how Mami is one of the strongest magical girl,you wonder why she lost to Charlotte then. And then. You think. Having friends it's what killed her. The idea of having people to rely on *distracted her* And so *_it ended her life_*
@WadcaWymiaru4 жыл бұрын
Mami did WRONG move by tying Homura by her ribbon. But Homura KNEW and let Mami die...to protect the Madoka.
@barclinxox4 жыл бұрын
I swear this series gets deeper the more you look into it.
@-.-ferdinan33994 жыл бұрын
homura could go back in time as many times as necessary until he wins the fight
@tovi32804 жыл бұрын
Ha sucks to be her lmao
@SamAltair37474 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was because she had a friend, quite the contrary, it's because she never had one, she was lonely, if she had one from the beginnig, this would't have happened (like the timeline when Mami and Madoka are magical girl together). And when she knew she could have finally a friend after all this time she was fighting alone, she rushed the battle to go to Madoka. So she was too entusiastic and l became less cautious. Doesn't matter how strong you are, or how many battles you had. If you act in a reckless way in a battle, you die. That was the message of this moment, that being a magical girl was dangerous and not at all funny. Poor mami i loved her...All the characters make me sad
I like little details like Homuras original personality showing when she panics. When she 100% sure she is in control she is cool, but when something unexpected happens she breaks her mask
With such deceivingly cute magical girls, you would never have expected such a badass battle
@monsieurromanbedlam51015 жыл бұрын
You my friend have much to learn
@enevy31655 жыл бұрын
Being meguca is suffering
@ReyOfLight7275 жыл бұрын
Lets not forget homura did nothing wrong
@redepiphyllum47725 жыл бұрын
@@ReyOfLight727 ehhh,,,she did develop an obsession with madoka and kinda made her a target for kyubey. She still babey tho uwu
@variedadesonline39265 жыл бұрын
@@ReyOfLight727 indeed
@げんみょん5 жыл бұрын
戦闘技術では明らかにマミの方が上回ってるけど、ここまで耐久出来るほむらも中々凄い。
@ペリペリ-m5q4 жыл бұрын
マミさんとの戦いが死ぬほど綺麗でほんとにだいすこ
@Quizoid5 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="236">3:56</a> Is Mami’s off-balance moment just a bluff to get Homura into position? Badass.
@thingthang29044 жыл бұрын
I think that is the moment she creates her clone made out of ribbons because even though Mami falls before Homura, we then see Homura below her.
@mlgproplayer29154 жыл бұрын
@@thingthang2904 Good point.
@aos-archive4 жыл бұрын
@@thingthang2904 I don't know if that was a moment she made a clone, but we see Homura backing off (and consequentially off the edge) when Mami took a shot at that moment. Mami fell onto the platform (if anything) and then leap downward after her.
@angeluriel27254 жыл бұрын
@@thingthang2904 someone pointed out that she makes the clone while the dust is settling, when there's a closeup of Mami's feet you can see the dust has flower shapes unlike the other shots 5:05
@thingthang29044 жыл бұрын
@@angeluriel2725 I keep discovering new things about this show. I love it! That's probably it!! Thank you for pointing it out.
@fredNoir925154 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="257">4:17</a> Homura reloads her MP7, but it is too fast to notice at normal speed. Damn Shaft, they went all out with this scene.
Just a remimder that these two girls are in middle school
@totozilla63965 жыл бұрын
Gugunet26 Futuristic middle school
@tef995 жыл бұрын
Skipping class just to fight witches
@vulpiixfoxx5 жыл бұрын
Gugunet26 from what I’ve heard, Mami’s actually a ninth grader. I think...
@LeinadDaerz5 жыл бұрын
And homura technically is older
@inactive_ina5 жыл бұрын
Homura is mentally 22 years old.
@Karomix35 жыл бұрын
Why Rebellion is by far the best. Best twists, best ideas, best stories, best fighting scenes between the most skilled., total mind-blowing finale. I must say, if they decide to make a sequel it will be hard to beat that.
@soc79673 жыл бұрын
Since there’s a new movie coming out for Madoka Magica, Walpurgisnacht Uprising, it’ll probably be about the upside down witch. Whether the new sequel will beat Rebellion in terms of fighting, probably not. But in terms of storytelling, maybe.
@Karomix32 жыл бұрын
@@soc7967 We'll wish them luck, this sequel has big shoes to fill after Rebellion.
@okskors Жыл бұрын
well it's happening@@soc7967
@ilyysm Жыл бұрын
@@soc7967 huhuh trailer's out
@El_Leviatan4 жыл бұрын
"So, how many bullets should they use?" "Yes"
@てて-f9q6 жыл бұрын
あんまり関係ないけどマミさんの使う銃の弾の模様好き
@tag45906 жыл бұрын
飴みたいでかわゆい
@モンハンで太刀使いのシュウ5 жыл бұрын
いつも夏祭りの射的であの銃使いたいって思うわ〜 あ、でかい方ね
@nekodesu46495 жыл бұрын
穢レノ常夜黄泉 実弾だから まと撃ち抜くんじゃないかね? (もし使うとなったらのお話)
@モンハンで太刀使いのシュウ5 жыл бұрын
ナイトメア・元シャルロッテ せめて中身はコルクで
@nekodesu46495 жыл бұрын
穢レノ常夜黄泉 了解 五回で100円です
@putra_maliki5 жыл бұрын
Imagine you are homeless and sleep on that abandoned building and suddenly there is a rain of thousand bullet...
@zahraailsa65384 жыл бұрын
Omg, no 😂😂😂
@WadcaWymiaru4 жыл бұрын
Magic...bullets decay soon after hit something.
@Luv4Jay14 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ChrisSmith-xw5vw4 жыл бұрын
@@WadcaWymiaru Mami's bullet's are magic but Hmoura's are the regular kind.
@WadcaWymiaru4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisSmith-xw5vw Not really. Homura imbue them with magic. She did that to her own bat.
@ヤヤコマ-t6x3 ай бұрын
セリフ無しでも表情や仕草の機微で感情が全て伝わってくるの凄すぎる
@パチョ-t3p3 жыл бұрын
8年間ずっと聞き取れずに謎のまま放置してたけど ほむほむ、「根比べなら負けない」って言ってたのか
@ずんだ餅co5 жыл бұрын
時間停止された後のことも考えてるなんて、やっぱりマミさんの冷静さと判断力ほんとすご
@ria03094 жыл бұрын
これなにがすごいって まみさんの先読みだよね
@VicViperMk25 жыл бұрын
Considering her quick demise in the TV series the creator really pulled out all the stops to show the audience Mami's true potential. Far stronger than her portrayal in the TV series, she somehow managed to bypass Homura's time stop ability and managed to create a doppelganger clone to fight her. Was she watching somewhere else while the time stop is in effect?
@ihateschoolverymuch9220 Жыл бұрын
No it was Mami fighting the whole time. She switched for a doppelganger at the end with the whole smoke thing or when everything collapsed. (Realized this was 3yrs ago but eh just sayin')
This scene is actually a huge giveaway of homura being a witch. The TVs have bebe's face on it, because homura was projecting her assumptions on bebe, making her important at the moment.
After examining multiple scenes of Mami Tomoe's battling style, I have realized what makes her so powerful. Mami retains magical control over her projectiles after firing them. Every shot she misses that hits a wall, floor, or ceiling is a trap waiting for her to activate it. Anywhere she has shot, she can manifest her ribbons. The longer any battle against Mami goes on, the greater her battlefield control advantage becomes. And near as I can tell, she never really opens up about this potential, not even to her closest allies. Likely because she is practical, and she has always understood that one day she may need to defend herself against any other magical girl.
This fight scene gives me the chills. what a masterpiece this anime is.
@yaruki_nashi_4 жыл бұрын
初めて戦闘シーンでリアルな鳥肌が立った作品だった
@mielium56195 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight. In terms of gun fighting, theyre both equally skilled, but in terms of intelligence mami won, she died because of overconfidence, and caught off guard. And this time homura somewhat loses because of her dependency towards her timestop. (As stated by sayaka)
@Jafs5 жыл бұрын
Nah in terms of skill Mami is ahead. Mami also has alot more empathy then homura so would inevitably do her best to not hurt homura, whereas once homura fights for madoka she'd go for the kill. If it's a fight without magic use then Mami wins everytime. Even kyubey states how Mami was an enigma in terms of her talent and ability. Also in the timelines where Mami lives she is the leader in terms of fighting and strategy
@neh12345 жыл бұрын
Mami is by far more experienced and more powerful, because she has fought more varied enemies, while Homura has been fighting the same witches over and over again. In this fight Mami got caught not out of overconfidence but because she was aiming to stop Homura, not kill her and she didn't expect her personality to do a 180 out of nowhere, thus didn't expect to what extents she was willing to go in order to win..
@ikimihimiri6335 жыл бұрын
@@Jafs for someone who intended to kill all of her friends in some timelines when she was desperate, she sure has more empathy.
@Anonymous_P5 жыл бұрын
@@ikimihimiri633 she intended to kill them as a sort of "mercy", because this was just too much and she thought it would be better for all if they didn't have to endure all the awful reality of the cycle of despair and coming witches, she didn't try to kill them because she hated them or anything related, bit because she loved them and thought it best
@underratedwolf25265 жыл бұрын
Nah, first of all Mami believed Homura’s words. You can see it. She killed Kyoko because she would turn on them and attack them for killing Sayaka witch just like how she does in PSP games. Mami protected her cute students from Kyoko. Next she told them what was going to happen. Eventually they would become a witch and she said she doesn’t want to become one. She didn’t shoot them like how she shot Kyoko, if Mami wished she could kill both Madoka and Homura but that was not her intention at all. She pointed her gun at Homura, making Madoka steel her resolve. Madoka would have to grow as a person or Mami’s prediction, them becoming a witch would come true. Mami gave them her final lesson and left the world, finally free of countless responsibilities she has shouldered (alone for the most part). She didn’t want to fight until eventually becoming a witch so she chose to leave the world, but for those that chose to stay in this world she gave them that lesson. Regardless, Walpurgis would kill them all anyways but Mami is much more than you think she is.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="180">3:00</a> I really like this part that they are in the middle of the rain of bullets and point the gun at each other and do not shoot immediately knowing that time is not stopped and they would end up killing themselves. And then Homura stop the time and they shoot managing to dodge the bullets with the time stopped (probably makes the bullets slow)
@jaelee19966 жыл бұрын
See how much better Mami can be when she keep her head in the game? *giggles*
@lillydoessomething32786 жыл бұрын
You... *monster*
@nicolasreyesgarcia66096 жыл бұрын
Savage
@qualitysally6 жыл бұрын
your gonna give mami a head ache with these jokes
@mintimin87076 жыл бұрын
Oof
@Asdflapfloppers68856 жыл бұрын
*claps
@おもち-m1k2z4 жыл бұрын
こんなにかっこよくて強いマミさんが幼女に洗脳されてギルガメッシュになるんか...
@無敵のマイキー-p7c4 жыл бұрын
あれは違うアニメだろもう
@淑-r7q4 жыл бұрын
ゲートオブマミロン…
@yestinelements71434 жыл бұрын
違うアニメw
@キノ-s6m4 жыл бұрын
@@淑-r7q エヌマ・マミシュ!!
@鳥レバー-r9n4 жыл бұрын
無限の銃製。
@StarmystryYt7 жыл бұрын
Buildings didn't stand a chance. They all crumbled from that many gunshots. This is one hell of a gun fight
Esta batalla siempre me emociona, la animación y el soundtracks (Absolute configuration, si no mal recuerdo) son exquisitos. La película de Rebellion es buenísima, pero en esta escena se lucieron. 👌🏻✨
@けんぴー-o4d6 жыл бұрын
ここの戦闘シーン凄い、凄くない?
@さくさくパンダ-y7f5 жыл бұрын
当たり前だよなぁ?
@ふれーくこーん-p8h4 жыл бұрын
作画班が過労死する
@Hexra_5 жыл бұрын
15 seconds in and shaft already did a head tilt, classic