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[@Chunky_sausage]

Love this review. You always spend so much time on the reviews. And you still reply to all the comments 🤯

[@magicorthodoxy]

Always!

[@jacka8404]

The mentalism world does not need a new version of Kolossal Killer. The scripting from inferno by Joshua Jay and a 4 WO envelope or wallet is all you need. The drama built when the audience sees the volunteer turns over the card and the audience sees the look on their face and THEN they see the card is lost when DB or MI cards are used. Michael Close often said that a new version should only be released if it is an improvement. This is not. Several better versions are already available. Great review, as always. Thanks.

[@magicorthodoxy]

thanks JACK

[@yuriydisman6829]

There would only be one or two releases a year if that requirement was to be met...

[@UncleSkiBum]

@@yuriydisman6829 but man wouldn't they be bangers 🤟

[@kyleleon85]

There is an equivoqué. There is a narrowing of options. It may not use verbal ambiguity or equivocal language, but you require the participant to think of a card from a specific bank of cards. This is no better than Inferno by Joshua Jay. In fact, I would argue that Inferno is the best isolated prediction of a "freely selected" card from a deck of 52 cards that will ever exist. It is vastly more interesting from a props and presentation perspective. Pulling a single card out of an envelope is so boring and only satisfies the conditions magicians LOVE to chase.

[@magicorthodoxy]

A lot of people really like INFERNO

[@kyleleon85]

Inferno is the best of its kind. But with PTSD, I feel like if it’s being advertised as “no equivoqué” then to me, that’s misleading. It is not any card thought of. It’s any card thought of from a range of cards. How you determine that range is irrelevant. Remove, burn, hand me a pile, etc all achieve the same thing. Call it what you want, but it’s a force of a narrowed bank. Let’s not get caught up in semantics.

[@magicorthodoxy]

here's a quote from magic cafe just yesterday "I would be hesitant to call it equivoque in the literal meaning. There are no step-by-step choices that the spectator express verbally. The spectator speaks only once to declare his/her chosen card." .

[@matthewoverd9435]

I would say it's what Peter Turner call "equivocal choreography", which is not the same as traditional equivoke. This is a much better effect than Inferno given the lack of traditional equivoke, it's far more direct and far more deceptive. "The conditions magicians love to chase" should be about perfection, just as it should be. The true innovation of this effect, in my opinion is the gimmick itself. Whatever card they name it's removed in the same clean and direct fashion.

[@kyleleon85]

@@matthewoverd9435 equivoqué doesn’t have to be verbal. You are forcing one of two groups in an ambiguous way. “Hand me one of the piles” is ambiguous. You resolve it in one of two ways depending on their actions. This is equivoqué, I don’t care what you think. Is it better than using language? I wouldn’t say so at all. It’s just a different approach. You could simply say, “imagine a deck of cards. Now we don’t need all of the cards for this, so would you like to remove the number cards or picture cards, it’s a completely free choice”. This has been a classic strategy that works with zero problems. Inferno is far superior in that the presentation is far more interesting and visual engaging. It has a premise that involves the participant and their choices. Having someone just name a card and you pull it out of an envelope is boring magic. Sure the conditions are awesome, but so is the Invisible Deck, which is the same damn effect.

[@DavidM-lj5yv]

Thanks for the through and informative review Dave. Just pre-ordered this yesterday. New Mark Lemon product-- I'm in. He's a genius.

[@magicorthodoxy]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@galaxycaptain672]

I thought I would wait to see if you changed you mind about anything? Going to purchase it now and make it my EDC. Thanks again. ED

[@randbaldwin]

Nothing better than a wonderful quickie.

[@magicorthodoxy]

😊👍

[@RJShawIV]

Great job David 👍🏻

[@magicorthodoxy]

Thanks RJS

[@rockgiant]

Looks fun!

[@magicorthodoxy]

agreed

[@pinballwizard666]

Many thanks David.

[@magicorthodoxy]

that's why I am here

[@guest3997]

Hi David, I really like your concept: B'wave and Kolossal Killer married. 😂. Well put! Great review! Thanks for all you do!!! PS: will you be in Blackpool? Your friend, David

[@magicorthodoxy]

sadly, I have never left the country

[@sergioserge1442]

ti capisco.... Ma il pubblico é curioso ed vuole vedere la busta, soprattutto in una esibizione in salotto. un abbraccio ti seguo sempre per altr giochi ❤

[@daverothberg2624]

you are right … several people disagree with your statement 🤷‍♂️ Thanks David 👍👍

[@magicorthodoxy]

Absolutely !!!

[@carder247]

I've been watching your reviews for a little over 3 years now. You give good positive and negative or should I say constructive criticism. One area of feedback I would like to give to you is that you don't always show the performance of the trick. Yes you describe it but in the magic professor we need visuals. There are a lot of other youtube channels showing trailers and/or performing. Thanks

[@magicorthodoxy]

This is only a "review / critic" channel. So I stay in my lane. I don't have a camera man, or the time to go find spectators willing to be on camera, nor the time to film tricks multiple times until they look "good enough" to be on camera. This is not my full time job

[@sergioserge1442]

ciao grazie del consulto: Una domanda ma tu consiglieresti l'acquisto?. Grazie

[@g.allenclarkejr.4539]

I like it, although I do also like the Kollosal Killer... Thanks David.

[@magicorthodoxy]

it's a classic

[@TheSuccessfulHuman]

BWAVE. I love that you said it that way!!!! Over and over!! Thank you!!! LMFAO

[@magicorthodoxy]

😁 isn't that how you're supposed to say it?

[@galaxycaptain672]

LOTS of interesting comments on this one David. Always a good review. Will this be a new EDC for you? ED

[@magicorthodoxy]

Still playing with it

[@UncleSkiBum]

Looks interesting but i am assuming that the trailer doesn't show this non verbal equivoque? As soon as I saw the reveal was all court cards i knew roughly what's going on but is it worth it just for this presentation 🤔 Also for anyone that doesnt have Bwave get the deluxe version Max gives yoy a masterclass on presentation. Peace out

[@magicorthodoxy]

good to know

[@TheoWadeFraser]

Which would you say is the best “one card prediction” mentalist trick out there? I liked the sound of this but Inferno seems better. Your thoughts?

[@magicorthodoxy]

Iceburg by Daniel Johnson

[@geoffreydove]

Think i will stick with Inferno combined with my piatt envelope . Can you show the envelope empty after you remove the thought of card ? Thanks fot the great review!

[@magicorthodoxy]

Nothing is inspectable

[@kendietz8640]

Court cards only…right!?

[@jordynfink]

I’m rather confused when you say there’s “No Equivoque”. According to Vanishing Inc themselves, “A single step of equivoque is required.” And because I know the method, I know that when you’re pulling out the envelope, you very much do know something about the card they will name. You may not know it exactly , but you know a range it will be in. Is there a reason you deem the “verbal narrowing of options” in this trick to be not equivoque?

[@magicorthodoxy]

because it's not verbal .... what magicians understand classicly as equivoque is a step by step verbal choice - and that is not what is happening here

[@jordynfink]

Gotcha! Now I’m kinda interested in seeing what this non-verbal narrowing process is like, I’ll have to check it out eventually. Thanks!

[@magicorthodoxy]

wait til more reviews come out so you get a good idea of what's going on

[@RobertBallMagician]

Great review 😊😊

[@magicorthodoxy]

Thank you! 🤗

[@sergioserge1442]

ciao carissimo!! mi spiego meglio! La busta non puo essere esaminata, in quanto contiene il gimmick... Poi la scelta delle carte è solo sulle figure cioè su 6 carte!!!! Con una borsa da scambio a rete si può fare di più.

[@magicorthodoxy]

Ciao mio caro, B'Wave di Max Maven non può essere esaminato e hai una selezione limitata di carte - solo perché il trucco non può essere esaminato non lo rende un brutto trucco

[@RoarDog1]

Can you buy spare envelopes?

[@magicorthodoxy]

no

[@RoarDog1]

@@magicorthodoxy Poor form!

[@magicorthodoxy]

@@RoarDog1 tricks today rarely come with the option to get spares

[@RoarDog1]

@@magicorthodoxy When it's a 'paper' gimmick that is intended to be an EDC, it should or supply more than two with the purchase & increase cost slightly, no one loses everyone's a winner!