Magic TV Top 8 of the Week: All-Time Best Sets

[@Ty94797]

the flavor of the lorwyn and shadowmor sets are just incredible

[@whooNooStop]

Lowryn-Shadowmoor for me. Its 2 seperate sets but they both kinda coincide with each other. Loved the flavor. Loved tribal. Wish I could've been playing when it was released.

[@SandiegoDFS]

Agreed

[@youbluethatone1017]

Lorwyn**

[@dicebagdaryl]

I feel like they secretly hate each other. lol

[@matrixxART]

I get that feeling moreso with the new host.

[@powermetalhistorian]

@ThisIsMyRealName spill the secrets bro, tell me all

[@j.walker6845]

Or maybe there's some unrequited attraction and frustration lol

[@mortimerreed]

Invasion! The set that started me playing MtG and home of my favorite card, Coalition Victory.

[@theironmountain]

Watched this series as it was coming out a decade ago, and wondering now why CFB doesn't take another swing at it. If they could cut the video length down to under 10 minutes (i think thats do-able?), i'm sure this would be a hit again. So many of these topics can just be revisited too, with all the new product over the last decade. Being able to revisit these old videos in comparison to their new counterparts, and also totally new "top 8" lists as well, would really really love to see it return!

[@cameroncorrado3935]

Fire design really destroyed my love for the game over the last several years, once it became clear that Wizards was no longer going to design cards to be enjoyable to the game they created.

[@Leuber]

@@cameroncorrado3935It’s actually referenced in the video in a way, what I mean is when they talk about Saga/Masques/Invasion. Back then, they knew they had gone too far with Saga, deliberately printed a much worse set with Masques, then got it about right with Invasion. Nowadays, every set is essentially Saga. “ Oh, our latest set is too powerful? Well, gotta power creep that set out with our next product!!” We have cards now at around 3-4 cmc that figuratively say you win the game, if you extrapolate that trend in a few years I would not be surprised if it gets to that literally.

[@asudebate3009]

Funny to hear Tristan talk about 'Gaming the System'..

[@QuintMarvel]

It's nice to hear some people saying nice things about Kamigawa. I can see it's not a perfect set, but I'd love to revisit the River of the Gods.

[@twitchster77]

I LOVED planar chaos. I was so excited about it. A red Akroma? Green ball lightning? White counterspell? Oh yeah. . .then there was the small thing. . .a black wrath of god. Was such an exciting set IMHO.

[@kiDchemical]

I loved the whole mirage block and the whole tempest block (visions was awesome particulary)

[@Simmisc]

I LOVED Lorwynn and Morningtide and that block. I just can't decide which is the best set from it...

[@JessicaZane4realz]

LSV is pretty damn witty.

[@mustachiobandit]

Excellent video, but I'm sad to not see Tempest on the list.

[@glennfk]

My friends and I did a Fallen Empires/Homelands draft. It was incredible. Thrulls were a force to be reckoned with and I opened two Eron the Relentless.

[@louiscipher2310]

ill sell you some unopened packs

[@shinseikatsu2014]

I went to that Pro Tour on the Queen Mary. I remember Quinten Hoover was there and was at the time my favorite artist, and he signed some cards for me. Still have them, too. RIP

[@mythicmtgtech]

Arabian Nights brought me into the game with incredible flavor. I loved the use of public domain historical fiction. This is another reason I love Portal Three Kingdoms.

[@Niv0505]

Ohh my god! Lightning Helix!!!

[@GambitX37]

M10 and Rise of the Eldrazi got me back into magic. Rise is SO good.

[@NomiLOL]

how can you not put saga there... this is i think the most powerfull set that had SOOO MANY build arounds and powerhouses that its pretty unbelievable.

[@BTBHead213]

One of the favorite sets.

[@AncientCS]

All sets from Urza's Block, just hilarious. Flavorwise Tempest Block, Mercadian Masques and Urzas.

[@saltedllama2759]

Urza's Block was terrible. Broken card after broken card (which thankfully got the designers fired), which were just echo and "untap X lands" reprints of vintage cards. No originality, no play-testing, no semblance of balance. It's NOT good for the game when cards had to be banned before they were even tournament legal. Masques did have pretty good flavor. The whole harbor town feel, like a good setting for a D&D campaign. Prophecy was arguably the worst expansion since Homelands, however.

[@Zeldarulah]

"Ancestral Recall.. maybe shouldn't have been common" ? It was the only one of the boon cycle that was printed at rare, I thought?

[@bakingbaker]

Ravnica for for me is #1. So many awesome cards in that set. Best part is when new players look at a card from ravnica to put in a casual deck them thinking the card is average or fair enough, and finding out it's one of the best if not the best card in the deck.

[@thelordofdarkcheese]

I'm loving the khans set for the most part. It printed cards that showed a lot of love to eternal formats. It printed cards that shook up formats. It also reprinted fetchlands from onslaught putting them in modern. It also printed some sweet cards for my favorite format, edh. I just don't like the standard it made.

[@AlextheBant]

yes it would have been. There has been alot of love for the innistrad set, as well as for the flavor as well as the limited format's quality.

[@MSUHitman]

I've only played for about 2 cumulative years total, but my favorite sets are Magic 2010, Zendikar, Innistrad, and Gatecrash.

[@jud6ment]

Right on! those are some of my favorite sets too.

[@kirby36D]

One of the best video yet :D

[@CidAghast]

this top 8 was so good i want to see a top 8 honorable mentions

[@morticianjohn]

I totally agree Shards of Alara should be up there. I think as a block it would probably make the top 8 list.

[@mrhappyfacencandy]

Mirrodin was broken mainly for the Artifact Lands, but there were other cards that allowed you to duplicate insanely powerful spells, or play expensive and powerful cards for very cheap through affinity or through other means. Personally, I think it wasn't too horrible on its own, but Darksteel really broke the format with cards like Aether Vial, Arcbound Ravager, Death Cloud, Skullclamp, Sundering Titan, Sword of Fire and Ice, Sword of Light and Shadow, and Trinisphere.

[@AeonAxisProductions]

I think Kahns of tarkir is my favorite set

[@ackel113]

Bfz is pretty awesome but khans is sick

[@AeonAxisProductions]

ive always been a fan of bug and when they finally named it (sultai) and brought back delve it got me excited for standard again

[@lv6fomor]

Khans as a block is great

[@nartin9]

+Wot Boars rtr is better that is fact

[@_reenzane]

It was an awesome set. Finally some real support for the Wedges and it brought some really awesome cards like the Khans and probably one of my favorite creatures ever: Siege Rhino.

[@necrogenesis1981]

Invasion, Planar Chaos, Legions, Innistrad, Ravnica are my top 5 in no particular order. Mirrodin gets honorable mention.

[@Rorschachqp]

Pro Tour Long Beach...nearly all of the LA players had played it a ton at pre-release tournaments and we had a ton of product to play with. We already knew early on that Cadaverous Bloom could become something.

[@TheSelbah]

My favorite part is the premium content.

[@chaosof99]

All time best boxed sets (Commander, Duel Decks, FTV, Beatdown, etc.)

[@DreamWindX]

Cool list. I still have love for Tempest though...it was a set that really evolved constructed magic due to the number of tournament quality cards. For strongest set ever beta is probably right just because of P9...but Urzas is not far behind.

[@Grunspreke]

For what it's worth, Mirage 'pre-release' was Pro Tour Atlanta.

[@helpmycatsonfire]

On Mirage, should have mentioned the astounding art (only on a minority of the cards but there were some phenomonal pieces of artwork). My #1 set would be Apocalypse, with Ravnica (the first) a close second. Ravnica block constructed was an incredible format too but was ruined by having no major tournaments.

[@kourii]

I remember drafting with homelands! Hungry Mist (Brume affamée) won it for me. Oh man were those times bad :D

[@JalebJay]

INN>DII I hope if I ever draft the Innistrad block again keep Dark Ascension out of it. BTW, do the worst sets next time (after the pro tour)

[@ArmorOfGod7]

Oh man, I loved Invasion. That was the only time I ever played Magic competitively, and I did pretty well. I ran a Fires of Yavimaya deck that had some unique tweaks to it.

[@RainbowRandolf]

"good ol' Channel Fireball Premium Content"

[@ozfan6]

I didn't play seriously (like FNM every weekend) until Innistrad, so saying my top 8 sets is basically the sets that've been out since I started FNM.

[@Rorschachqp]

Best set ever was Visions. It had a good, useful card in every color and rarity, even in the lands, multi color and artifacts slots. For example, green had City of Solitude for rare, Creeping Mold for uncommon and River Boa for common. Black had Vampiric Tutor for rare, Nekrataal for uncommon and Fallen Askari for common. Red had Bogardan Phoeniz rare, Goblin Recruiter and Fireblast...

[@georgeasimakos1744]

Rorschachqp the whole Mirage block was awesome for so many reasons. Nekrataal was one of the main reasons you started to see non-Necro black decks popping up at the time.

[@WhopperSr]

No love for Lorwyn Block. Tribal was so sweet and the Lorwyn limited was awesome :P

[@richdean9293]

My favorite set is core sets or Mirrodin because it was an artifact set and revolved around that one idea. Artifacts lol

[@upkeepmtg1127]

I liked the scars of mirrodin block in flavor with all the myrs and artifacts/robots and the phyrexians

[@swedishfool91]

I really liked masks... Invasion was my first set and I loved it! 7th ed was fun, I liked it. Ravnica was the shiz, most exciting set since invasion.

[@Ale-mv3gr]

;( My fav cf pairing

[@jairomy]

The greed man, the greed :(

[@walterppk1989]

I liked Odyssey. I know, the creature tribes were aweful. But flashback changed the way discarding works and how you could build decks toards their end game.

[@ozfan6]

RTR was fun, but Sphinx's rev was the most broken.

[@gubaguy]

WOO! LSV is back!

[@33D33AntiDotE33E733]

Why was Mirrodin broken? What's the reason for saying that?

[@ravnic99]

My Top 3 is: Ravnica Dissension Guildpact

[@oliverwilson11]

I hate those sets because they led to wizards making three multicolour themed blocks (Ravnica, Shadowmoor, Alara) in four years which was super boring

[@Stairc]

Actually, Rise really wasn't received well by most people outside the hardcore draft crowd. Mark Rosewater has said this many times. However, the hardcore draft crowd LOVED it and it was awesome for drafting. =)

[@jud6ment]

I felt opposite. I think it is awesome to have the best creature in the game to be colorless for any set and I felt this was a needed set for the game in general with many formats. It also shaped EDH/Commander format and legacy. but I hated so badly to draft this set. I just felt like it was to slow and odd and draft and cube is my favorite format. Zendikar is my favorite draft of all time but part of this reason might be because I like to draft agro, and that's what zendikar was.

[@Stairc]

Yep. The draft-obsessive crowd loved it for how many neat archetypes there were and how the slower pace let them do cool things they don't normally get to do. If you liked aggro though, the set actively tried to make aggro awful.

[@Raparanoiko]

Time Spiral was an awesome block overall

[@TheLuminousCleric]

Oh, I don't know... because of affinity, artifact lands, insanely powerful artifacts. the whole block is just ridiculously powerful.

[@Brodaddy1000]

so basically you're saying Zendikar is a top 8 set because it has fetches and cool basics... Treasures were not part of the set, but a promotional thing.

[@Umba]

No Tempest?!

[@leftysheppey]

Lots of these sets people still talk about still, 4 years on. Although, I think worldwake and zendikar had such good cards that people still talk about and use, more so than other sets. Gatecrash was also awesome. However, sadly this video was put out before the theros block, which was phenominal

[@liamtshore]

shards of alara/conflux

[@jglen888]

I was hoping they would put SoA in there. I love that set.

[@jud6ment]

It was all around good set to many formats to the game. It should be somewhere on the list I agree

[@spaced_magesmith1472]

i think original mirrodin should be on here, oh how i love mirrodin limited by far my fav

[@Quiltfish]

Calling it now (Why do I always do that when I'm always wrong?): Ravnica.

[@Sparkyhobbies]

My favorite sets were shadowmoor/eventide

[@ImTaylorGang]

do top 8 commanders!!!!

[@Plexxii]

did he say what is a worm with a w?

[@nickycoburn1795]

i thought this was magic tv in like magicians and bunny out of a hat lol tehe

[@NilsSF]

Do top 8 LSV T-shirts.

[@tuna1694]

no mirrodin?

[@tippmannNC828]

RAGING COUGAR!!! Portal. 2R for a 2/2 haste. =) Twas my favorite portal card

[@NicksLotus]

8:time spiral 7:kamigowa 6:rise of eldrazi 5:m10 4:avacyn restored 3:worldwake 2:zendikar 1:ravnica

[@Shadmed2]

And all time favorite. Raging Cougar.

[@NicksLotus]

agreed!

[@Deathkeeper43]

Bring back the hockey jerseys! Especially the Sharks! ;)

[@muderousmaggot666]

Comparing Diablo to MTG, gotta love TSG

[@Icecoldavery]

I feel that if Innistrad was not the current block it would not be on here. Other than that I wish Shards was on here.

[@SharpCookies]

Can't help but look at the old prices for Avacyn Restored singles... $8.00 Avacyn... those were the days...

[@KZProdigy]

PHYTOHYDRA! LSV is the man in the picture, epic dodging Humphrey. TSG was already eaten by the hydra =D

[@nartin9]

my favorite white card is from Arabian Nights. Abu ja'far

[@MakeThisPlaceIgnite]

I recently lost an 8th draft to searing wind :(

[@mercenarybdu]

Raging Couger by Terese Nielson.

[@ISLaughTyI]

LEGIONS!!! The only set to be 100% creatures.

[@residentzombie]

This was filmed in 2012

[@CuteJapandaBear]

Raging cougar?

[@ed88455]

"Whats a wurm with a w?" A worm?

[@kojiroh30]

it sure does look like Eron from today's angle, but it's Raging Cougar.

[@iratebeaver29]

Also, Top 8 PT misplays.

[@kaladost]

Saga almost destroyed magic forever, so I would not call it the best set ever XD Although on a power level view only, it surely deserve a spot there. As does Mirrodin, but we all know what happened...

[@eircK]

Ten hour video of this 14:51 now

[@ddublu]

In 2018 the statement: "we're returning to ravnica soon" is true again :) sweet

[@oliverwilson11]

Am I the only one who was already bored of Ravnica the first time they did it

[@bibbyDK8300]

I think the Urza's block has the best sets, but not the most fun sets though since the most of the cards were to broken.

[@n79037606486]

It took me seven years to figure out why it's top 8 and not the usual top 10.

[@Lemonducky86]

What is a Wurm with a W? That's just ridiculous :D

[@Ghaltard]

Ravnica and Scourge set where the best!

[@Rtiffany0466]

I would have thought Lorwyn would be here.

[@palaguin]

I would put Tempest, Visions, and Onslaught in the Top 10 myself.

[@Prodigiousguy8]

I think Lorwyn should have been in there somewhere.

[@dracometeorkid]

NO RAVNICA?

[@LolwutJ]

what about unhinged?

[@Lazris59]

Worm? :P

[@Lazris59]

Diablo 1 has great qualities. The whole game is based around descending in one place, the cathedral. Any class could learn teleport or fireball. But the walking around, duping, no respawn of creatures, and have maximum stats at a set value for each class was bad. D2 changed a lot of it but lost some of D1 good qualities. I think D3 fixes a lot of D2 problems but still loses some of it's qualities. Games change, if they kept something amazing and carried it from D1 to D3, people would be bored.