Magician REACTS to Rebecca Herrera mentalism on Penn and Teller FOOL US 2019

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Magician reacts to Rebecca Herrera 2019 perform her mentalism act where she claims to have an out of body experience and read the chosen/hidden numbers for Penn and Teller on their show Penn & Teller Fool Us 2019. Rebecca Herrera has won a Fool Us award previously and is returning to try and do it again with her mentalist powers. I was fooled watching this performance, and I only have some guesses. This is Fool Us Season 6 2019. What did you think about this magic effect / mentalism routine?
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[@EmpyreanLightASMR]

5:38 audio cue: wind up and get ready 5:41 audio cue 6 vibrating 5:47 audio cue 1 strings 5:51 audio cue 9 plinking 5:57 audio cue 7 thunking 6:02 audio cue 3 cymbals

[@genepozniak]

No. That would require her to have control over the band/orchestra, but P&T have control of that.

[@CebollaFilmes]

@@genepozniak and you got that information where? All performers choose their songs and sound effects for their acts, no where its said that they cannot use the music as part of the trick.

[@genepozniak]

@@CebollaFilmes And how, pray tell, could she adjust the music on the fly to match random numbers?

[@YouMakeItHappen]

​@@genepozniakpartner off stage

[@KinnereyB]

The music playing once she was “in a trance” could easily have ques put in. A special system of only 9 different sounds for the 9 different numbers would be easy to blend into music like that. The answer wasn’t hiding in plain site but it was playing in everyone’s ears. That’s clever.

[@krasen.dimkow]

Wow , I was about to write this. So I am magician :). Yes it requires some mixing skills but the sounds are different and they were mixed relatively good.

[@KinnereyB]

@@krasen.dimkow Magician to magician 🤜🏻🤛🏻 Good eyes and ears my friend! I love this show and love the artform even more 🪄 🎩 ❤️ ♠️ ♦️ ♣️💯

[@alessandroverdoliva9637]

Exactly!

[@punk3900]

Each instrument is a number. The order of how the instruments play is the sequence. The audio is mixed by her assistant before her trans. Still quite clever.

[@m0eser]

About Penn placing the blocks off-center, I think he did that on purpose to give the highest chance of throwing off any prearranged visual aids (reflections, camera focused on exactly that spot, etc)

[@ryandiaz6703]

5 different sound effects when she goes into her trance, someone queuing sounds from booth. My guess at the effects: 5:36 5:44 5:51 5:57 6:01

[@yodaddy4944]

Ryan Diaz i think your right.

[@iankyle4067]

Not sure how possible this is but I think that she used reflections to her advantage. It was odd to me that she said flip the numbers to the ceiling and before she went into her “trance” where her head pointed down was looking at a shiny floor where with a mirror above the stave she could possibly see the numbers while they are facing up.

[@ashsmitty2244]

Ian Kyle I just wrote that before seeing this! So I agree 😅

[@ryandiaz6703]

@@iankyle4067 So, a reason why I don't think it's a mirror; Penn specifically said, "Everyone in this room and everyone watching at home...EXPERIENCED". If it was a mirror in the stage, we wouldn't have been able to experience it. We did experirence the sounds while she was in her trance though.

[@TheRomeogigli]

that could be a way too

[@andreaskarlsson5251]

Is it just me or is it just great when Jason is as confused about a magic trick as the rest of us? Makes me feel less dumb :D

[@roccoreid2842]

The sounds were rather abstract. And the counts of each sound didn't seem to match anything. But being abstract, she could have memorized 9 separate sound clips where she assigned a number to each. And each sound clip would have blended well in any order to appear to the audience that it was a single sound clip. Whoever was queuing up the sound didn't have to memorize which sound was what, but only to flip numbered switches.

[@bluejavelina5335]

there were 6 audio cues during the trance . the low bass means 3 etc. the very first sound means 6 the next distinct sound is the next number. so probably an assistant viewing numbers from top with a keyboard with 10 samples

[@bmwolfe2786]

Yes this. This is definitely it. The number of clicks and swells is just too muddied with delay and reverb. Should have read your comment first lol just wrote the same thing. You said it better though.

[@interestedparty00]

She had tiny ear pieces in her ear and set the sensitivity of the wand high enough so that it wouldn’t alert to them. Penn’s watch is big in comparison, so she made sure the sensitivity was low enough for that. Why not let Penn look directly at hear ears???

[@vladvoznyuk]

In any case, I'd give it to her for having such an incredible sense of hearing. I don't think many people would have been able to discern the cues all that easy.

[@sumphatguy]

@@vladvoznyuk Anyone can determine the queues if they're practicing ahead of time and know what they're listening for.

[@vladvoznyuk]

Well, @@sumphatguy, I don’t think that anyone can do it. I’ve had a chance to run the sound equipment at my church for a couple of years. I think I could boast of a good sense of hearing. Yet I highly doubt that I could pull off a stunt like that. This definitely requires some skill/talent.

[@MrSIXGUNZ]

This is a very fun channel 😊 thanks so much and blessings to you and your family 😇

[@4m842]

It wasn't the block sound it was the music playing in her out of body experience music I think

[@irian42]

Which I feel is extremely clever as we as an audience have been trained to think background music isn't really there (due to movies etc). So I love this idea.

[@joeljoeljoel]

I figured this to be the key as well, but only after Penn's explanation of it being out in the open. Still such a great effect.

[@JohnLewis-old]

P&T have mentioned before that nothing, or almost nothing, is done on stage without a reason. The "dramatic effect" of the waiting for the out of body experience took way too long. She was being given the information in that time frame and yes, the music was all keyed to specific numbers. Nicely done.

[@VideoGameBoxReviews]

Unless you really make a great show mentalism is so boring, they never do anything, it's just a stagehand giving the performer the answer. There is no skill or even illusion going on.

[@maryhayes1654]

@@VideoGameBoxReviews Yes my thoughts exactly. What's magic about an unseen assistant

[@ashevillevideoproduction]

REVEAL: Rebecca has what is called "relative pitch" in the musical world. This means someone was playing live music during her performance, likely a keyboard or sample pad. When she goes into "trance" the music starts by sliding up and then drops to a clear low pitch, which is now the "root" of the scale that the music is in, and Rebecca uses her trained relative pitch from there. Each of the notes played in the background music, from that point on, represents the scale degree of each number Penn chose. There are seven numbers in a scale, with the eighth number being an octave above the root and the ninth being an octave plus one (aka the second scale degree but one octave up). There is a lot of foliage effects added in the music to hide the shifting ambient notes but they are clearly there if you listen, know music theory, and have relative pitch which can require some training (Penn says in code "It's like calling someone's name in a crowded room; only they can hear it.")

[@davidbanfield3280]

You are gifted.

[@tomr6955]

A lot of people have this, myself included, but I'd like to practise more. I think Rebecca is incredibly well trained to be able to do it under pressure and apparently so quickly, although the video may have been cut for brevity

[@gregdanielson9086]

You are exactly correct.

[@edward9643]

Nice theory but as u said ITS LIKE ie it was a comparison

[@zaynmohammed7235]

Love your work jason . Am a fan from egypt . Keep up the great work

[@Mathadar]

100% right. She had a music cue/sound effect for each one playing during the time after she tranced. It is why after the last one, she awoke. She had the full code.

[@skeevetheimp]

Yo dawg. I heard you liked watching magicians watch magicians. So we got you magicians watching magicians watching magicians.

[@AClRCLEOFLlGHT]

And if you're a magician watching this video? Whoa!

[@JeffSchall]

@@AClRCLEOFLlGHT I'm a magician reading a magician teasing a magician watching magicians watching magicians. It's kind of my kink.

[@abcrtzyn]

Totally find Jason Parker’s reacting to Shawn Farquhar reacting to Magician reacting to Shawn Farquhar’s performance on fool us. And then as a magician, watch it. Magician-> Magicians-> Magician-> Magician-> Magician-> Magician

[@Drazooma]

The dramatic music during the trance had a rhythm element that likely held the code and was played specifically for that number by her sound team.

[@dashzxc]

Your performance is great too. I had seen this episode of P&T but through your show I saw it very different way. Great job

[@annatsukiya]

Two possible ways to use that sound to give information for her:- 1- The sound length echo which can define the number. 2- The sound coming from direction (define the number value or position) on from the audience (that's maybe explain Penn's comment about the "everybody have the information")

[@dibbers]

Even if that was the case, he put the numbers in random spots in the slots.

[@allclay1993]

@@dibbers She probably used sound cues during the "trance" music

[@starchild2121]

There's at least 5 distinct tones embedded in the music. Probably blended with a main background sound. She just has to remember each sound to which number and match it when it comes up. Not the hardest thing to do with a few days practice.

[@angelogandolfo4174]

Penn was “sneakily thorough” with the security wand, with the second sneaky ‘watch check’…… Plus, Teller’s face at 3:18 😂🤣😂👍👏

[@PaulAdamssongs]

Thank you. You present this very well

[@brianszopinski98]

I just want to tell you I just started watching you the other day I think you're pretty cool guy keep up the good work 😎

[@RobertBallMagician]

This was a great performance. 👍👍

[@davidcushley3820]

I was the chairman the Northern Ireland Magic Circle for 15 years, (sadly it’s now gone, and I’m the only member still alive), I did this same trick many many times. I had 2 ways of doing it, but neither way was audible, and before electronic devices such as buzzers or tappers.

[@jameshill3244]

Please explain David ( I won't tell anyone )

[@johnjohn-cs9eu]

What a great analysis thanx

[@StanSuchy]

The sounds sounded all the same to me, and I think it was also edited as well. BUT I think it was the music played during her experience

[@devasubramaniam543]

Liked the video even before watching it :)

[@JasonParkerMagic]

Now that's some support! thanks! :)

[@warriorsfan19]

I once had an out-of-body experience. I was beside myself.

[@brianmccormack9828]

Stunning! The trick is great too!

[@jhopper007]

The chair wasn't checked for vibration. 😄

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

How is that something that the whole audience could hear?

[@elliotmotola5348]

I think you had it right the first time with her shoes

[@philipmitchelmore5701]

If the chair was vibrating she’d get a thrill

[@m7alan7johnson7]

He mentioned Bambi's friend. Could this be a reference to "Thumper" or a thumping sound or vibration in the chair?

[@ozemale6t928]

Agree with this....look under chair at 6:20 you will see a small black box on the under side...got me curious how it was very personal last time.

[@estheroginni8227]

The answer was in the music. Simple!

[@nonoynavarro4577]

Me too im fooled hehe

[@TheRealVranesh]

I’m thinking the same thing

[@malenkas3]

Brilliant

[@maciedevine6900]

Lol u got fooled than haha I know this trick it's the chair lol

[@nicholasdelong6999]

It sounded like it could have been the music during the trance

[@Ben7seven7]

The secret to this was using distinct sound effects that played along with the trance music. Each of these sounds were associated with a specific number 1 through 9 and they played the sounds in the correct number order. There were 5 numbers used and 5 distinct effects played during the trance. Right after hearing the last of the 5 sound effects played with the trance music, she wakes up revealing the number. This explains how when Penn said the secret was something we all experienced and in the open but were not aware of, like your name being called out in a crowded room.

[@Ben7seven7]

LordKellthe1st no, that type of assistance would be permitted.

[@fairamir1]

AGREED

[@susansemola8606]

Hey Jason good evening when I watch this on Penn and Teller it was absolutely, 🤯 but after watching you I didn't understand with Penn was saying about the sounds of the blocks? But damnnñn was AWESOME,

[@viyasansabesharasah4099]

This will be so useful for my next MC test!

[@bigviking]

You can hear the clues of the numbers during the music she had while she was "going" into a trance.

[@4bit4u27]

As always i liked your reaction very much, the music bits was kinda wired, i think every bit represents a number, and the order is from left to right :)

[@usaverageguy]

The trance music is a sequence of 5 distinctive sounds. Each representing a number in the box. Blending like a video game soundtrack

[@jm389017]

Dude I love your humor!

[@JasonParkerMagic]

thank you!

[@mikedonnell86]

gonna say she used the reflection on the ground, and mirror on the ceiling to read it.

[@NZVideoGuy]

The music is her only connection with the numbers, so whoever controlled the music played a specific series of tones corresponding to the numbers. Everyone heard it, but only she could understand it.

[@m7alan7johnson7]

The reference to Bambi's friend...Thumper, implies a foot or a thump. I believe it had to do with vibrations or foot taps that anyone could hear but only she could feel.

[@alejandrobailey3414]

Agree, the diferents sounds effects during trance time... greetings from Guatemala Central America I enjoy a lot your programs.

[@SuperKingslaw]

The audio cues were given in the five different "eerie sounds" during the "trance". As Penn was turning the blocks towards the ceiling they were setting the order of the "eerie sounds".

[@NoNAME-qi9tq]

I can't wait to see a flute act on fool us... Maybe someday 😜

[@hyzepher2840]

Since the available number didn't repeat i.e. 1 to 9. If each number had a corresponding musical sequence then the music at the end just needed to be made up of the correct 5 sequences

[@colegieseking5136]

Hyzepher that is super smart. You’re right, for sure.

[@jonydude]

That was my guess

[@pasky641]

It's why she never said before to Penn to move the all cubes in a concrete way. Somebody outside had to create the sample. Which is very easy nowadays, but almost with 30/40 second time needed...

[@alejandrogilrodriguez3941]

She fool me so bad. I don't even want to know how is done. That was so magical to me XD well done 👏👌

[@AlanTauber-DrumConnection]

I agree - well done!

[@davehoehl8442]

I agree the answer is in the music. The misdirection with the “turn blocks to ceiling and hands on shoulders” gave the programmer time to add the number clues to the sound track.

[@jknorratl]

The music queues were distinctive sounds representing the numbers. Someone off stage played a seemingly ambient "trance" music. But the sounds are hidden in the music choice

[@TheVeryLastViking]

Correct

[@NeonMidnight]

That was also my guess.

[@davidfischer9186]

They edited out some of the trance music I think, if not it was hidden really good but at 5:52 there were pops for the 3... maybe...

[@TheEpicSpire]

when you mentioned sound, i thought of the sound effect that played during the trance. maybe the length, style, volume, and all that played into figuring out the sequence. i know you magicians are super smart at that shit

[@utubeadrianno]

Indicative sounds, well done

[@vwlssnvwls3262]

Him not centering the numbers was kind of annoying, but I figured he did it on purpose in case the stand had some kind of device. I think the sound cues might have been the pings in the ambient music while she was in the "trance".

[@damonfinken]

The audio cue was the trance music. If you notice, there were several distinct sounds that could have been played in any order or pattern and would have still achieved the same dramatic effect. The dramatic sound effect with the blocks played a part too. It didn't indicate the numbers, but it normalized the dramatic music during the trance. NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY.

[@konroh2]

I heard 1 and 3, don't know if the tones match a solfege, or rhythm, any guesse?

[@WhodatIzz]

@@konroh2 just different noise for each number, not a count but a color there are 5 sounds on a background, one for each number

[@axdihaf9094]

THE SOUND EFFECTS GIVE IT ALL. A CODE.

[@SigmaHayate]

It makes me think of another performance on this show too, she ask Pen to flip the racket up to the ceiling and she use the blind fold to cover her eyes while her face is facing the ceiling too.

[@KrustyKlown]

LOL ... receiver was in "private area" where nobody would place the scanner... and such receivers can be purchased at any adult store.

[@personal61319]

Those who say the music during the trance is the key are correct. Nothing else matters at all. It's a keen way of getting intel for sure. Various devices are basically impossible to use on FU and so this cunning display worked wonders ....for...the audience :)

[@john-paulsilke893]

dawwal the trance music!?! Very bold choice especially since Penn is a musician and a super nerd for music in general.

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

@@john-paulsilke893 They were not fooled. Penn talks about a signal we can all experience. So the music is the only thing that fits.

[@john-paulsilke893]

Teller was definitely fooled. Penn is a music nerd that borders on the other side of psychotic so he wasn’t fooled for 1/8 of a second. Weird since he is definitely not the greatest of the two at magic, (his word paraphrased). That being said he can spank 9,999:10,000 actual magicians at their own game and come out on top because he’s a dirty clown college drop out carnie trash “talker”. That trumps almost all skill levels in magic because patter is absolutely the biggest part of magic and he has his reps in no doubt at all.

[@DanLoFat]

When when Ben said to like calling out someone's name in a crowd if the name is unique enough that only you would know and that the general crowd would not be familiar with, and she agreed to that assessment, it the sound presented in the trance music was definitely in an ordered fashion to match the numbers 0 through 9 or 1 through 9. And like any musician, a magician should be able to memorize those sounds

[@spaceracer23]

I doubt the sound would be when he is placing the blocks. That would only tell her what numbers were chosen, not the order. An auditory cue would have to be in the trance music. Also she didnt have gimmick shoes. "Bambi's friend" is Thumper, and Penn said it wasnt that. Also it cant be a mirror on the ground as Penn was standing over her and could've seen it. Penn also had every opportunity and reason to look up when placing the numbers. The other possibility would be light cues. Specific lights and or shapes projected onto the floor during the trance or just a light sequence after Penn had chosen his number.

[@Vass881234]

Background music during trance contained ticks, warps, variety of sounds she has learnt 9 diff effects then listens for these sounds and recites the order

[@blueyedevil519]

@Vass OMG! 😮 I was going to say the very exact same thing that it blew my mind 🤯 ! Because when I re-watched it after Penn was talking about auditable clues🤔! And Jason mentioned he heard odd sounds so I was like 🤔 hmm 🙀 yes there was 😳! I was listening so hard 😣! And the first time I started listening when she sat down 🤔 and tried to listening to the booms when Penn was putting the blocks in and the sound of the wood blocks but sadly 🥺 that wasn't it 🤬! Then that music started to play and then 🤗🤭 ah hah!! I heard them hidden within the music and were certainly subtle in the music 🧐 And as I scrolled down to mention it and the very first comment I see is yours 🤣! I found it funny and reassuring because someone else said it too!

[@MrRljohnson77]

However, he did not put the blocks in sequential order. So, she heard the cue, how did she know the order?

[@Ulkomaalainen]

@@MrRljohnson77 If this theory is indeed correct, the cues weren't given when he put the cubes in but later during her "out of body experience", when different sound effects were clearly audible during the music.

[@mjstudio4918]

penn also not put the block accordingly.. so the if there any sound.. she can't even recognize which number come 1st

[@jimdavis2385]

Everyone heard the same sounds, but like someone having their name called, only they hear it. In other words, she knew the code, which I believe was counting between certain sounds. One sound starts and she counts till the next special sound is played. She repeats that until she has the entire list. Note, no numbers can be repeated in the sequence, so once she has the six, she can mentally lock that away knowing that the six won't appear again.

[@CaptainJack63]

It was clearly the sounds of the blocks and the container. We are missing the full audio because of the equipment being used to film the show. Then brought over to KZbin. We are missing much of the highs and lows that you would get if you were on the stage. If you were sitting near her, you would notice each block has a slightly different sound when moved around. Think of it this way. Have you heard someone walking in a room or office and you know who it is just from the sound of their walk? Well, you can do the same thing with blocks by adding or removing wood from inside of the blocks to change the sound. I'm really curious about what type of wood she used (spruce maybe?). That's how she identified the individual blocks by memorizing their unique sound. Same goes for the wooden container. It was made with adding or subtracting wood. Possibly using a softer and lighter wood like Balsa inside the container to deaden the sounds. If you ever watch a Marine Boat Surveyor, you would see them carry a very tiny ball hammer. They use it to tap the side of the hull to listen to the sound of the wood. It's an indicator of dry rot and/or other things. Practice with a well-seasoned surveyor, you can learn what the wood is telling you. Clearly, Penn had a hunch and that why he first knocked over the blocks, then latter smashed them on the table. It's very jarring and it even messed me up. Rebecca was very good and clearly practice well as she didn't let Penn's obnoxious noise making mess her up. She knew the answer long before she started the trance. Well, that's my hypnosis.

[@SavHawks]

How would she know in what order he was putting the blocks in? That was a long ass response you wrote for nothing lol. Trying to sound all smart and shit rofl. It’s not the blocks duude

[@MichaelBock]

Not reading other comments, but I "read" from his words "up there" that he spoke of a mirror in the ceiling (or a device at the ceiling which reads the numbers and gives back colors) and the mirroring floor showing the numbers which pointed upward.

[@oliverkolossoski1434]

Yeah, that's what I thought as well. That'd explain why she's facing the mirrored floor. Anyway, you either need a very trained ear or a very trained eyesight.

[@michieladriaansens5977]

"and it was real device" xD

[@harrymonk983]

It's in the trance music. You'd have to see it performed again with a different combination and compare the music note for note.

[@rcd5886]

anybody notice the highly polished black floor.? an appropriately located mirror suspended above the blocks would reflect back to the floor, especially since she demanded that the blocks face upwards. then she looked directly at the floor where we couldn't see if her eyes were open or not and since everything is aligned to her chair position and the block stand position only she could see the reflection. Reflecting twice, once in the mirror and once on the floor double mirrors the block numbers so it appears to her exactly as placed in the box

[@peters616]

I think it was some type of subtle code in the music that played while she was in her "trance".

[@Ilikeit616]

I do not think you can use any " special " electronic means when on P & T If you can use a remote vibrator and place it in a private spot with a person in the audience . Like Penn said , call out a name in a crowded room and you can hear . the most simple is some one is hand talking to her ....She had a friend in the audience last time . They showed her

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

You absolutely can use modern technology. They have guessed at listening devices before. They gave up with the guy with the phone charger that didn't need to be plugged in to charge their phone. They kind of complained that it could be done with some technology but since they didn't know the details then they were fooled...

[@nerrynayzov]

The music during her trance is the sequence that allowed her to figure out the numbers

[@windfire5380]

I was wondering if the "music" while she was in the trance coudl have a code for the numbers (6 drum beats, followed by 1 whatever, followed by)...

[@abdelkrimberghout2785]

It is the sound played when she was playing out of consious... there were sounds counters in the music. Have a nice day every body

[@IAmDeepSpace]

the chair dude. assistant sent radio waves to it which triggered a vibration device. that's why it took her so long to "get" the #s

[@metamurph]

"everyone had the information"

[@chouzell7308]

Yeah I agree with you and some of the people in the chat. The music that was played while she was in the trance was what gave her the numbers. See the whole trance thing isn't necessary as part of the act. She could have just put her hands on her head and concentrated, then said the numbers. I know that some magicians would practice for month and even years just to master a trick. And that when something unnecessary is added to the trick it could be the heart of the illusion.

[@wazzanose]

Could there be some sort of reciever in the chair that vibrates operated from off stage? Could that be why Penn mentioned "Bambi's friend" meaning Thumper?

[@dimbasick]

I was surprised that the audience didn't react when she called out the numbers, and only reacted when Penn showed it again. Seriously, no one could memorize five digits? :)))

[@0509080190]

😂😂

[@tomr6955]

My thoughts too

[@legsakimbo666]

I think they used a form of Morse code in the music during the trance

[@kristofsomers2020]

just a thought... the chair never got scanned for devices, did it? surely a small remote controlled vibrating device could easily be mounted inside the chair?

[@mlisnek]

I was thinking they were like trick die that don’t read unless theyre facing upwards. But with no device kinda tough. So why did they need to be facing upwards if that’s not it?

[@Ben7seven7]

4:55 yup it bugged me too that he didn’t center the number on the rack.

[@ThisIsTheIkeMaster]

I'm no magician so Idk how she would do this BUT this trick could be slightly elevated and brought to a new level IF she had the last two digits backwards BUT THEN revealed the numbers to match what she said... it would be spectacular bc not only does she provide the illusion of divination but would also seemingly magically transfer the digits between two blocks

[@darkwingduck9271]

And then have the block container and numbers go up in smoke...and the numbers left on the table match what she said! To me, THAT would be #CopperfieldCrazy!!

[@theBrightman]

Mentalists like to play the angle that there might still be something real to what they do OR they try to limit their effects to things "done only in the mind". Doing a transformation like that while effective magic, in the eyes of many mentalists, would ruin the effect. I think in her given presentation of being a replication of a psychology experiment your ending wouldn't work, BUT I do think it could be a great ending with a different presentation.

[@RonnieDandan]

Wondering what happens if he positioned the blocks facing the backwall instead of facing the ceiling as instructed by the magician ??? It could make a big difference right ?

[@mtjoy747]

Given the limited "range" of numbers one COULD generate from the blocks, is it a case of a one in n (n being less than 10) list of 5 digit numbers it could possibly be? Otherwise I was thinking the "person in the audience with the remote for the device" turns it off when SHE is scanned, so as to not reveal any device she IS wearing. If the number done by Penn is placed pointing to the ceiling, then she briefly looks up to "see" the number, when she comes out of her trance...sees the number, and tells Penn what it is! Is it combinations or permutations that does a list of all possible numbers from the blocks?

[@Wiley_Coyote]

Okay, it's DEFINITELY an audio cue. Remember the whole premise of her magic last time was aural too. She wasn't totally fibbing when she claimed she's trained her ears.

[@josephtyson4228]

Everyone got this act wrong. The key to this whole act is when she asked him to turn the box toward the ceiling. When the blocks were turned upside down, they made contact with electronics that sent the ticketing number to a hidden earpiece embedded in her ear. Joe Tyson

[@wzot]

Could be a mirror in the roof, but those would just be red herrings. Most definitely the trance sountrack.

[@totallymagic]

Yes I thought the same when he misplaced the box on the stand off centre!!! Had visions it was gonna topple!

[@jasonhounsell3297]

Totally Magic He did it on purpose (notice when he turned it up he was careful to make sure it’s still the same) - incase there is a reader in the base he wanted to be akward.

[@SatanistSin]

I think the sound you noticed, is the audio version of holding your hands like your palming something even when they're empty. What's that called? Conditioning?

[@etienneschramm83]

It did completely fool me until Penn's comments. Now I do have an hypothesis. Like you, I suppose the message was hidden in the sound, but a little later... If I'm right, it's wonderfully hidden, if not, it's even better. In any case, it was a great act.

[@CptAce-sq6wt]

It was the reflection from the floor and she ask for the blocks to face the ceiling

[@sn4tx]

I thought the same thing at first lol

[@jrok96]

100 percent the audio played during the "trance" very distinct sound effects . Not hard to memorize 9 sounds. Listen again!

[@DanLoFat]

there's an a percussive series of clicks that we hear in the background music and I believe that's a shorthand code for the five digit number and she could do it quick bit of math and then know what the five digit number is from that

[@michaelscaturro6326]

there is something curious about him not centering the block, as you point out. when he turns the blocks upward to the sky, there is some mechanism up there reading the numbers.

[@mrxyz6145]

When she goes in trance listen carefully ... there's a sound like water droplets .. something like this....(tip....T.. T..tip) At 5:51 I think that's the sound ... Plz reply if anyone aslo thinks so

[@Gnarlf]

That's probably one of the sounds, i agree. If you count the clicks, they make no sense, but if every sound has a number assigned, then it would work

[@fairamir1]

@@Gnarlf Sounded more like a nuns clicker

[@AZR1011]

it was the music at 5:54, each sound represents a different order. it was easy to catch act if you know where to look for. but overall it was a nice one

[@jugsma6676]

yea, you are wright

[@AZR1011]

@@jugsma6676 lol

[@jugsma6676]

@@AZR1011 , haha

[@harshreality2672]

Lol-not just you Jason. I have OCD in one thing only, I like straight angles and balance. I am forever straightening random things like papers in a pile all wonky, to a more streamlined straight angle. That thing he put up on the shelf drove me even MORE to a notice, than it already was, because you pointed it out lol! THANKS 😡❗j/k ❤😄😝😜👍❤

[@oldschoolchartist]

It's in the music. Someone was performing the music live on a synth. She was listening for particular tones in particular places and the scale intervals were the likely means by which she was given the answer. As an example, listen for the first number '6'. Think of the NBC TV Network theme... N = 1, B = 6 and C = 4. Now see if one of the first tones you hear in the 'trance music' is not that familiar "B" interval - the 6th. It gets a little trickier because 2 and 9 are the same pitch separated by an octave UNLESS 2 is the major scale and 9 is made flat. I do hear a flat 2 not too long after the 6th interval and there is a definite 1 in there too. Keep in mind, the tones do NOT have to be in order. She could be listening for changes in just one of the timbres. Despite the fact that the trance music sounds very simple, there are many layers and some of those are likely there to mask and confuse.

[@chialor1945]

*I remember her act from before. She fooled me cause I checked her out the whole time lol.*

[@herreragonza5891]

she always fool me too.... super hot

[@D800Lover]

Musical (sort of music) queues when she is supposedly in a trance. Something everybody heard, so in plain sight, or rather plain sound.

[@MileyonDisney]

8:29 - Thumper The music was all added in post - not in the live show. I saw another magician use that same, thick tripod on this show. He had a box placed on top of it, too. How did she know the numbers weren't facing toward the ceiling? Facing up seems to have played a role. She obviously got an audio cue from somewhere, according to Penn.

[@andyp926]

The reason it's "the same thick tripod" is because it's a standard lighting or loudspeaker stand that you can buy anywhere.

[@ryzlot]

@@andyp926 It looks more like a surveyors tripod - I have one JR

[@IbnuAmbak]

Just a guess, why the blocks are need facing the ceiling? I notice that the floor is very shinning and reflective like a mirror! So, when Penn hold her shoulder, while she was pretending unconscious and also, looking on the floor seeing the "reflection", try to read those numbers from a mirror at ceiling perhaps.

[@ascher40]

I played the music (when she was out of it), through an equalizer to filter certain sounds.....not sure if a coincidence, but a number of clicking sounds were evident when using the filter.What does anybody else hear?

[@Dragon_Lair]

I heard the clicking but there wasn't enough to give out numbers. I think Bambi's friends had more to do with it and being out in the open for everyone to see and hear had more to do with it than the music. I'm thinking the chair itself.

[@davidgollop2807]

@@Dragon_Lair Hey your right they didn't check the chair....hmmmm?

[@JoseVasquez-jl4qy]

Maybe she saw the reflections from the floor thats why she ordered to face the rack to the ceiling and seeing it by bowing her head

[@bpuryea]

It's the music without a doubt!

[@jamesbevan9939]

I don't know if you saw Giancarlo Bernini's routine from the season premiere, but I was wondering if you could help out with something from that routine. During Penn's coded explanation he mentions Shimshi. Does Shimshi do a similar routine to what Giancarlo did?

[@JasonParkerMagic]

sorry I haven't had a chance to see that act yet! So many acts, so little time... :)

[@jamesbevan9939]

@@JasonParkerMagic Okay. Was just curious. Thanks