Magic Review - Cognito by Lloyd Barnes & Owen Garfield

[@chrisredfield2533]

I ALWAYS come to your videos before buying magic because of your honesty and enthusiasm:)

[@magicorthodoxy]

Yay! Thank you!

[@mikefulli]

Hopefully helpful extra information: 1. Creating routines is relatively easy with insturctions in app. Community has developed way to create forces and other clever things using same inputs as peek/reveal. 2. You can export/import routines with images so you can download routines made by other people and they are ready to perform without modification. 3. Sharing routines in app might be coming at some point so you don't have to use the Facebook group. 4. Same activated account works on both Android and iOS at same time. 5. If you activate account after registering and logging into app the activations status seem to not be updated. Logging out and back in fixed this for me. Beware: logging out clears all custom routines. Use export feature and backup the files somewhere. Import back after login.

[@magicorthodoxy]

what a great comment !!! thank you !!!

[@Dannythaline]

Thanks for the shout out david!! Hope you and your family are well!!!

[@magicorthodoxy]

You too

[@vengeanceXO]

Well, I’m really really late, is it still worth in 2024 or do you recommend me to buy a better magic app? As you mentioned the chaos trick and horoscope ones seem fun but I’m not sure since this came out a while ago

[@magicorthodoxy]

digital force bag is the best

[@vengeanceXO]

@@magicorthodoxyalrighty! I think that’s the way to go! Have you checked out chronoforce pro btw? That seems good too

[@pinballwizard666]

Hi David, i really don't like apps BUT for whatever reason I got this the day it came out. I struggled a tiny bit with initial setup but I don't do 'tech' . But after that was accomplished ... Wow! It is sooo good. I prefer the card peek to the reveal. The reveal screams gimmick. The peek is so subtle. The proximity input is brilliant. I guess you can tell I like it!

[@magicorthodoxy]

sounds like you had the same experience as me

[@Dronak]

I bought this already, so a few comments. First, the price is going up to $40 on November 16 when a new major feature is being added to the built-ins. See Lloyd Barnes' recent video with an uncut performance for more on this. It's available for $30 until then, but isn't staying at that price point for much longer. That said... I agree on the iOS / Android thing -- it's great that they made the app for both platforms, but they seem to have used iOS as the basis of the video instructions and such, which isn't the best for Android users, which as you noted, is the larger market. As for the initial set up, I think there are two parts, one of which seems more necessary than the other, and I'll leave it at that to remain vague. The Facebook group with user-made routines is probably one of the best things about this, since you can get all sorts of stuff there.

[@magicorthodoxy]

glad I wasn't the only one who felt this way about the experience

[@MrMonk330]

Great review! I’ve had this since the pre release and I just can’t stop playing with it and performing it

[@magicorthodoxy]

awesome

[@dipakbhuiya749]

Sir how many person can use this aapp

[@joemagicstr8zzz]

I'm late to the party. But, I waited a year to decide after the hype was over, but after seeing Llyod use it with Dex, I came here to get your review. And so far I'm very happy with getting it. It's half the cost of Inject and it'll only amplify the tricks I already do. I can't wait to get it now!

[@magicorthodoxy]

hope you like it

[@joemagicstr8zzz]

@@magicorthodoxy it's a learning curve for me just like it was for you. I bought it tonight. I will use it along with a couple other apps for integration. Maxim and MailFx. I'm gonna have FUNNNNN with this once I understand it. I do understand how the card revelation works, as I've been working on my own app. Cognito definitely a great adaptation of a classic way to get the thought of card, etc. Using pictures was genius.

[@paulbond1518]

Brilliant review, got this a few weeks ago but haven’t had chance to sit down and go through it yet, a great purchase from what I hear!,thanks David.

[@magicorthodoxy]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@jerryRp90x]

Hi, watching during my planning

[@magicorthodoxy]

Great 👍

[@TheMagicMinute]

Jumped to the comments to see if anyone picked up on “I’m a child of the horizontal”.

[@magicorthodoxy]

???

[@amalpulickalanil9086]

From where can I download predictagram

[@magicorthodoxy]

website says "discontinued" ellusionist.com/products/predictagram

[@ankurarora.143]

Grreeat Review, i have been lucky enough to be in the launch video, here at 8.25 Sec 😀😀 so awesome app

[@magicorthodoxy]

Great 👍

[@SteveTemkin]

I’m up to my nuts in magic apps, and at this point would only consider others after checking your reviews. This was helpful.

[@magicorthodoxy]

oh good !!!

[@rleedavismindreader]

A), is there any way to search your reviews (by title? Product?) and B), apps - what do you think of Hydra? Pls, let me know!! RLD

[@magicorthodoxy]

yes, on my main page - you can search just my channel using the search tool - or you can search "magic orthodoxy" and "coin tricks" or "card tricks" or "mentalism" etc

[@artvideoman]

David. I got cognito. Trouble with the app not going to settings. Very complicated. I reached out to vanishing magic. Waiting for a reply. This should not have been sold in the market

[@magicorthodoxy]

id look for help in the facegroup group - it'll be a lot quicker (and more helpful)

[@magiccorner2019]

Nice review...Still on the fence with this...Probably pick it up.

[@magicorthodoxy]

I feel ya

[@eushapti]

Fantastic review as always. Thank you sir!

[@magicorthodoxy]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@john12152]

Good review... Maybe I'm just an old geezer but I just can't get into app tricks...to me it just seems extra unimpressive...it's literally a supercomputer so duh you can make it do whatever you want...the thing can feel you, hear you talk etc...one of the things I love about sleight of hand is that it's one of the last things out there that don't depend on this kind of tech like everything else in our lives today...

[@magicorthodoxy]

great point

[@Eric.E.]

Totally agree. I even feel the same about the Infinity Watch and similar products. If a friend randomly showed me their analog watch that synched with their phone or remote I wouldn't be all that surprised or impressed and it certainly wouldn't seem like magic. Like with phone tricks it doesn't seem like much of a leap to see a watch prediction trick and then guess that it's done with tech. Maybe because it's a watch? I dunno. Using tech for dice predictions doesn't seem as bad.

[@brucet53]

Another excellent review - thank you

[@magicorthodoxy]

Thanks again!

[@jamesedwards5702]

Great review David!! Have a super day!!

[@magicorthodoxy]

Thanks! You too!

[@southtxroughneck113]

Great review. Thanks David! (I kinda feel like Penn telling me I didn't fool him in code.)

[@magicorthodoxy]

Fair enough!

[@marcomaronese699]

Fantastic review, OK I'm getting this , hope it works on android

[@magicorthodoxy]

I hope so too

[@jamesedwards5702]

Thanks!

[@magicorthodoxy]

[@DavidJones-davejay]

Another great review. Thanks David. Apps always scream ‘magic trick’ to me. (Probably getting too old.😂

[@magicorthodoxy]

You and me both!

[@samhodson6470]

Great review...thx Dave. BTW, I'm not on Facebook...is that OK?

[@magicorthodoxy]

of course ... why would it not be ok?

[@kenny7593]

Not to be pedantic, but slightly more people actually use iOS than android. I know that apple is a minority in the desktop/laptop market, but they actually have a big chunk of the mobile market.

[@magicorthodoxy]

In June 2021, Android accounted for about 46 percent of the mobile OS market, and iOS accounted for 53.66 percent of the market. So it's basically half and half

[@thegrumpybusinessman3400]

@@magicorthodoxy so he is right. Apple has more. 🤦‍♂️

[@DatH1pster]

$30 too expensive for a magic app? Greg Rostami is laughing somewhere lol

[@magicorthodoxy]

truth

[@LouieBarsOfficial]

Lol

[@reuvengershon6625]

Love your channel

[@magicorthodoxy]

thank you

[@darshmalani370]

I really like your reviews and before I purchase anything I always look for your reviews I have a request : can you please do a magic deck review of IMAGINATION DECK BY ANTHONY STAN, W. ESTON & MANOLO

[@magicorthodoxy]

sorry I only have VISION deck of thiers

[@ricardotavera1330]

Not to mention the ability to import other user's routines. I believe there's already 50 more routines...

[@magicorthodoxy]

at least

[@72A1D372]

What is the size of the app?

[@joshuarileymagic]

unfortunately it is quite big, it comes out to just under 400mb

[@72A1D372]

@@joshuarileymagic Thanks for the reply. I have it installed now.

[@bard2227]

Great review! I was waiting for this :) p.s. somehow my previous comment got deleted so posting a new one!

[@magicorthodoxy]

Oh no!

[@bard2227]

@@magicorthodoxy yeah.. I actually purchased it after your review and I gotta say, I don't regret it at all! 👍👍

[@krisley5178]

Just a helpful tip: "Scrolling" is vertical. Scrolling sideways left to right is "Swiping".

[@magicorthodoxy]

Ok, thanks

[@jefftravilla]

This isn’t quite accurate. A swipe can cause scrolling and other actions regardless of direction. A swipe is a swift, directional press of the screen. “Scrolling” is user experience lingo that came from mouse input days and refers to accessing content that is off screen using a scroll bar. Scrolling is distinct from other interactions with off screen content (like carousels) because it deals with content that truly overflows the screen. Carousels also overflow the screen, but their overflow is hidden to prevent the scrollbar, and instead gesture inputs cycle the content into view. “Swiping” is often used to describe carousel views on a phone because that’s the main touch gesture control, and the action of the content nicely matches the action of the gesture. But when you’re scrolling, you’re still generally using swipe gesture. And there are definitely instances where apps and website scroll from left to right.

[@bobpace8827]

I’m rather disappointed that you didn’t review how hard this thing is to set up. I have spent hours trying to get it registered, passwords, activation codes etc., I’ll just stick to coins.

[@magicorthodoxy]

Do you have an iphone?

[@bobpace8827]

Yes sir

[@RobertGeez]

The peek option is useless imo. It simply a math trick that way.

[@magicorthodoxy]

oh wow, I think it works better that way - the other way looks too contrived

[@Rhewin]

Hmmm… I really love Cipher by Lloyd, but since he’s let Tempus get so out of date I really am wary.

[@magicorthodoxy]

hmmmm

[@bklynbonkerz]

David. Great review. I agree with the video. Not satisfied. I felt like the video was long winded and not clear. It could have used more illustrations and have been more balanced when discussing the platforms. I'm working on a large Android and it's not working well with the app. Great review. Keep it up!

[@magicorthodoxy]

I have a large android as well

[@bklynbonkerz]

@@magicorthodoxy I reached out for some guidance and got nothing back. Samsung gallery has a transparent header and footer! Also, I'm finding that on the horoscope trick, some of them don't show the peek. It feels glitchy unless I'm dying something wrong

[@stevendl7879]

This app is no good ... It's f***ing awesome and the F/B group is fantastic..

[@magicorthodoxy]

I agree - with the addition of the FB group, you will get so much MORE out of this app

[@bkstudio1990]

Apps are expensive but development is hard and expensive. It makes sense

[@magicorthodoxy]

yup

[@ghostmagicshow4026]

Just my opinion but app triks are not magic..and lay people know its your phone doing the work...just saying

[@AnHonestLiar]

I bought it but get ready to spend a day and still not figure out one thing about it?? I'm doing something wrong but the teaching is trash lol no android help.

[@magicorthodoxy]

yea, I had that same problem

[@AnHonestLiar]

OK so after paying around with it, I got it to work for others now to see and they actually think it's a very cool trick ( Chaos trick ). I love love love magic but I just love easy amazing magic haha. It took a bit to get it running but I will say it's worth the money after trying it out because spectators seem to be caught off guard if that makes any since. I've got some responses like it blow their mind. I will say it's worth the money if you like phone tricks. I'm not a phone trick person just yet but i got the chaos trick down so, I'm sure I'll use it down the road . Also I love the clearly of your videos and how you explain things, you are to be commended sir!!!!!! Thanks!

[@Lance514]

I wasn’t impressed with this app. Many spectators noticed “patterns”, plus its too much work for the spectator to do imo. Deleted it after a week.

[@magicorthodoxy]

yea, I can see that

[@Lance514]

@@magicorthodoxy Anytime I try and work on something new I immediately ask for feedback and comments on the my performance and the trick itself, usually with family and close friends/fellow magicians. If anything seems off, suspect, unimpressive, gimmicky, etc. on more than a handful of occasions from ppl - it’s a no from me. I don’t try to convince or rationalize myself it’s good or okay just because I spent money on it already.

[@thebondvillain4920]

Feeling the same after trying it out on the outside world... overhyped and disappointing too..

[@TheNewsAtNine]

I wasted my money on this...

[@magicorthodoxy]

join the FB group, Im sure they can help you with any difficulty you are having

[@marocmr1774]

👎

[@magicorthodoxy]

Do you own this

[@robh913]

This app is a waste of time and money. Too many things can and will go wrong.

[@Aichauer]

A guitar is not a bad instrument, only because of you cant play it.😂

[@AryanTheMentalist]

@@Aichauer Lmao 💯

[@thebondvillain4920]

You do know that with the latest update you can do it on their phone also...🙄