Pro Tour Dark Ascension: Top 8 Finals

[@keyes53ljh]

i love watching kibler play, he is in clutch situations and even though he is in thils top situation he is joking around like it was still the swiss rounds...amazing

[@DarkXagami]

I came back just to watch this 11 years later LOL

[@2LettersSho]

Never forget when a hearthstone content creator took down Elite Spellbinder :D

[@smipth]

Had no idea PVDDR was a dirty lands in front player.

[@daniellambeth6769]

thank god he lost

[@AlienDogStar]

@@daniellambeth6769 🤣

[@ratcoolbud]

amazing tournament play. The highest caliber of players with great coverage, and really lets you see how to think through your moves when playing the game. I recommend anyone who plays magic to watch this video.

[@ThunderJunkOC]

CGB sent me here.

[@kameenook]

Almost came down to the comment section, but then I remembered I didn't want spoilers...

[@drop0ut606]

People complaining about Kibler shuffling, talking and fidgeting.......would you honestly rather watch 2 guys sit there silently with there hands on there thighs taking 5 minutes a piece to make every move?

[@HellSpawn6723]

I was wondering the same thing the first time I saw it happen. Apparently it helps keep players focused so they don't give away emotion or their hand. In essence, it helps them keep their "poker face". People tend to do various things with their hands when they are nervous or confident, so they constantly shuffle those cards in hand to keep a consistent action going that their opponent can't get a read off of.

[@some_hippies]

that moonmist artwork is really sick, Ryan Yee really captured the essence of the card.

[@superstarajl]

i love watching kibler. he rocks.

[@TimEddyHughes]

I thought to myself: 'Hey, they fixed the sound and reuploaded it!'... Nope.

[@roccodemaro4305]

I wonder is PVDDR is still a lands in front guy?

[@Nr4747]

I'm also a fan, but copying without putting in your own ideas with stifle your growth as a player - even if you just second-guess and change a few cards or alter the sideboard to better fit your local meta, it will still help you become a better player by getting a deeper understanding of the game.

[@MSNking14]

these guys could go through one set of Dragonshields in a night the way they shuffle!

[@opasnatikva]

Both are used for different parts of the tournament. This is the final match in the Constructed(type 2) format. The draft format is seperate.

[@ConnorMurphy-ku8hb]

Imagine how much more PVD would have won if he didn't constantly curse himself by playing his lands in front. Poor guy.

[@marten7715]

Normally I try not to be bothered by hand shuffling, as I even do it myself, but Brian moves so fast it's actually nauseating.

[@jonathana6298]

Watching this in 2018. iPhone 4S merch hype. :D

[@KamiKai]

Probably posting updates of the game on facebook and twitter.

[@ZombieKitty321]

He was more than likely posting and responding to questions on the facebook page.

[@jggeol9]

Same hairstyle, Same Hand shuffle, and Almost same decks. Priceless.

[@PsychoSocialFilms]

hes on the MTG website, hes posting what is updated during the matches.

[@gredaderlol]

I think Kibler's shuffling is beast. I play magic and personally shuffling your hand is an addiction. If you notice basically all the pros do it

[@cubik124]

it's not to distract the opponent... a lot of card game players do it, it's a habit a lot of people pick up, just with different methods

[@7lameango]

Turn up your volume!

[@VladhimirK]

Finally, I'm not the only one bothered nearly to death by that shuffling.

[@RIPPBLADE]

did u see the huntmaster :)

[@kojiroh30]

@TimEddyHughes totally agree on your comment. .....except the fact they did fixed the audio.

[@UltimateZeldaFan91]

@BrianWarner1996 Paulo is BRAZILIAN, one of the only countries in South America that don't have Spanish as the main language; it's Portuguese for Brazil. Just because something's "below the border" is not Hispanic/Mexican/Spanish.

[@SOJACjac]

i love the sommon of brest out of no where in the back in frame 11.43

[@KM613]

Wolf Run has kinda become like jund. In 2009 Jund was in the finals of Worlds, and the final two decks of PT San Diego. Wolf Run was in the finals of worlds, and both decks in the finals here. Pretty dominant deck!

[@trymantha]

It also makes it harder for the oppanant to tell which card has just been topped deck and to stop players from learning information by the way you sort your hand

[@ScottofOakland]

59:03 the scattered applause and mostly quiet, solemn ceremony was very awkward to watch.

[@mrpeppo971]

because if they put it any higher the players will be able to hear what they are saying while they are trying to concentrate

[@BrianSpenk]

Whens Avacyn Restored vid coming?

[@Jux2p0ze]

Good coverage, but I think the audio needs to be tuned up. I have it cranked and can barely listen to the commentary.

[@alexanderthegreat3424]

Brian kibler back to back.

[@TempestDacine]

@xh1199 There were so many different decks played at pro tour, just because 2 of the winners were wolf run doesn't mean anything regarding the viability of other decks in this format. But you wouldn't know that since you probably took one look at the winning decks, and calle dit a day.

[@lolguy97]

ah the good ol days, before standard was all thragtusk, back when delver and wolf run ramp were the big decks. I miss it.

[@zhengjing1]

gate crash had: Esper by ben stark. UWR by Joel larson and UWR by Thompson Wolfrun bant by mellisa detora. The aristocrats by martell. Jund by stephan mann and .owen. Frodog millionaire played an aggresive version of naya. it did not feature tusks in the main deck. So 3/8, the top 8 was dominated by reckoner(which is starting to fall out of favour recently)

[@FirstLast-dh8ks]

I get RSI watching Kibler shuffle his cards

[@lolguy97]

just went to SCG and looked at their last 3 opens and its a 4 of in at least ONE of the top 3 decks in each open. But not popular right?

[@NeonOrangeRhino]

people need to stop complaining about the shuffling in Kibler's hand. I see how it is annoying to us, but it is meant to distract the opponent..and based on how many people complain about it, it's clearly annoying enough to merit its worth.

[@KevinOMalleyisonlysmallreally]

Why is the sound always so low on the pro tour coverage?

[@Saiyagah]

@pokeplayer935 No not the deck shuffling..the way he shuffles the cards in his current hand. Like the ones he is going to use.

[@TheWickedDestruction]

oh so it varies from different pro tours? I think i get it. Block constructed can only happen when the third set comes out right? aw i wouldve liked to see what people could do with only innistrad and dark ascension... eh

[@RealEchos]

How do you know they aren't communicating through facebook PM's, or even checking comments from viewers to see if he mislooked something?

[@lozfactor]

How many primevals are in the deck?

[@AgentMurphy286]

Except now it's so commonplace that it only annoys and doesn't distract anymore. Magic players typically can multitask. So for instance, I can be annoyed by something, but still focus on the task at hand, with minimal negative effects from being annoyed. You are right however that when it first started cropping up that it was distracting. That tactic though doesn't do much, but raise the blood pressure of your opponent.

[@JasonBrown-zw9kz]

Kibler! Keep somewhat still!

[@MaskedSarcasm]

I guess for some maybe. Like I said before, it helps me focus and think, just like pacing when talking on the phone helps me focus and think during a conversation. Some of it may be habit, but I don't think I'm the one with a disorder if someone else can get distracted so easily by hand shuffling. To each their own I guess.

[@GageLeeHughes]

@latensi They were on the same team and developed the list together. They didn't just go online and copy and paste a list.

[@Jadesayade]

yes but is your deck type II?

[@Regicide1990]

@TheKomsire22 lol what do you think a mac is?

[@sorafowler4497]

anyone know where I can find original innistrsd pro tour? maybe a link

[@austinbach3731]

There wasn't a Pro Tour for Innistrad, but Worlds 2011 was Top 8 Standard around that time.

[@keyes53ljh]

exactly! my sister had 2 play him and she was so distracted she was making play mistakes, it's strategy every1

[@mobohasfleas]

The thing I like about magic is not playing the meta game and making a super weird deck that people dont expect...cause they plan for the meta game.

[@dog502]

hall for life !!!

[@AverageAngel]

how much did kibler win in prize money?

[@somepl3b]

These guys made the decks big

[@luckyskin09]

i always find the award ceremony to be kind of awkward loll

[@GameBrigade]

@metra111 time stamp?

[@Rapsody93]

Maybe for the Live comments?

[@BrianSpenk]

how about the top 8?

[@mjschust]

@AngryZurka the game is all about learning how to win and lose with class, and how to treat people, even though they are competitors, with dignity

[@lolguy97]

also, it was in 4/8 decks in the top 8 of pro tour gatecrash. Please look things up before you argue lol

[@markbriggs8633]

The constant problem with Standard. Your opponent can put you on your 'outs' better than in Legacy. But playing magic at all for a human is a matter of preference.

[@Team11Member]

@TheJessegyr A lot of people do it because it helps them concentrate.

[@Northernhail]

cool im the second person to watch to watch this

[@KisaSohmaTheFinal]

Magic, The Shuffling

[@AngryJoshua]

I constantly shuffle my hand when playing card games as well

[@Fyreswing]

That judge's job is to update pro tour facebook page with text play by play of the matches... so, yes, it is professional.

[@Nostromo2020]

He could be answering questions on Wizards Facebook page or something like that. I doubt he would just log onto Facebook in the middle of the Pro Tour for no reason; someone would probably say something to him.

[@AgentMurphy286]

Pri-Me-Val. That's how three dictionary sites say it's pronounced. So when it's said altogether it sounds like "Prime Evil". Also if you listen carefully to their audio sample of it, it sounds even more like Pry-Mevil. Honestly not picking a side on it, I wasn't sure either so I looked it up.

[@chrisv2121212]

it makes it to where we don't have as much stress. Why does it matter to you what others do? Focus on yourself. Other people aren't your concern,

[@latensi]

@GageLeeHughes Oh! That explains a lot. But I still find it a bit dull... There are the same steps and the same idea: 1. Get mana 2. Get Primeval Titan 3. Get the Inkmoth and the Kessig Wolf-Run. 4. Charge!!! Well... If I'd play against them, I'd use Torpor Orb :D:D That would ruin it:D:D

[@neveSykcuL]

@farleymeaghan It matters because this is the very highest and most professional level of playing and it shows lack of professionalism not enforcing rules like having token cards for types that your deck will generate The same way when a few games ago they had to go back on a game because a wolf token was suposed to get destroyed but wasn't, and from the 3 people watching the game nobody said a word It matters for the general acceptance of magic as a skill based competitve game

[@brisioso]

yes

[@apeiffer670]

@ TatsuMakiSeppuKyaku Ok, thanks, I wasn't sure about that.

[@apeiffer670]

39:48 Brian didn't cut Paulo's deck.

[@Jarikk1195]

its also to distract the opponent, and so that don't think you are holding one card in your hand for any specific reason.

[@KM613]

He hoped Kibs would miss one turn of acceleration so he'd be able to catch up. He took a risk, it failed. I'm more angry about game three when he zenith'd for a slime when one turn later he has a titan for that zenith

[@100redeye]

anyone else sleeving while watching this? lol

[@TheHelloToYou]

I doubt I could take option B in a pro tour though. It just seems unfair to those people who are annoyed by the constant swiping and clicking noise along with the constant movement. There are no formal rules against doing things that are annoying, although if I started singing halfway through a match because it calmed me down and annoyed my opponent, I'd probably be asked to stop by either the player or judge. I'd honestly prefer some random guy singing as opposed to him just auto-shuffling.

[@TheWickedDestruction]

I thought these were supposed to be block constructed?

[@AWCO777]

how are mirrors boring? The Players know what each player have in their deck and it's about actually outplaying your opponent, instead of having a good/bad matchup or a better deck.

[@ThunderfallFilms]

More like Pro Tours with Brian Kibler.

[@AlucardSparda]

YAY!!!! FIXED AUDIO!!!!!

[@Southernerstsax]

I flip my Wolf back & forth, I flip my Wolf back & forth....

[@piplup10203854]

i like the card flickering i wish i could do that not so i could do it often but just cause it would be cool but i have like no coordination so i can't do it lol

[@DerHerrIstMeineStärke]

True

[@KristalSkittles]

@imthebeastfly he meant say i play Huntmaster then next turn you do then i play land go, Yours triggers then mine triggers ontop of the stack transforms and spikes you and your master for 2 damage killing your master leaving mine alive, very tricky stack ruling, somewhat confusuing i kniw xD

[@furr0ci0us]

He just won the pro tour... you want to tell him that he can't shuffle his hand? O.o

[@pelletier1986]

Paolo is pretty old school, playing with his lands in the front. Ahhh the good ol' days! :D

[@4S4L3]

probably on the wizards facebook. people make those things for companies you know.

[@lostcause61]

The computer guy is on Facebook at around 23:00

[@TheHelloToYou]

It's a bad habit though. There aren't nearly as many people who fidget and tick as there are people who generally remain silent, because sometime in their life those people who -did- fidget were probably asked to quiet down or stop their fidgeting. It is discourteous to the opposing player if it is distracting to them. They, unfortunately, cannot remedy the problem, so it's up to the person doing it to either find another, less noisy and annoying form of concentration, or just stop altogether.

[@BLTZxProductionsx]

@lozfactor usually 4 in both decks

[@mossidull95]

its not about any of that, at least not for most people, i shuffle my cards because really i have nothing else to do, also sometimes its relaxing, don't shuffle them so intense as kibler though lol

[@TheHobbsFan]

what i dont understand is this is game 5 its obv whoever misses their acceleration loses, why did Paulo keep that game 5 hand. just silly in my opinion