Major Buffs & Nerfs | Tekken 8 Patch

Before & After Comparison of the latest Tekken 8 patch that dropped along with heihachi
This video covers most of the major changes, some minor hitbox changes were excluded as the video was becoming too long. I will post another video if you guys are interested in that

[@IAMOP]

03:58 this clip is reversed Nina got a damage nerf on qcf 1

[@hemanthkumar5225]

That's what I thought. When did that fools buff Nina they always nerfed her😡

[@TheMario74891]

@@hemanthkumar5225 isn't nina top 5?

[@IbrahimMaqsood-si1nm]

But she ok not deserve nerf only yoshi and Dragunov deserve it​@@TheMario74891

[@justaman4887]

2 DMG NERF???????? Bamco is going to town on drag with this patch

[@Some0ne989-y7g]

I think we need to buff dragonuv with all these nerfs theyre giving him

[@yayiiyuuuu]

Wth you complaining?? you clearly know nothing about nerfing character xd. he is not overpowered bro, in fact, he needs to get buff xd. Y'all complaining on drag just because atif and ulsan uses them too good.

[@nc3743]

@@yayiiyuuuu said the crackhead.

[@hehe7510]

​@@yayiiyuuuu lol youre just dogshit at drag if you think he needs buffs

[@koolestkman5945]

Steve caught the most random stray.

[@-ShiraZen-]

Lars getting his 111 CH Wallsplat back is so cracked, especially in T8 where you can bound at the wall and deal 90 fucking damage.

[@joshmcginn7546]

His new combo where he wall splats you, carries you away from the wall, then uses ff2f to zip under and carry them BACK to the wall is crazy. 97 on counterhit.

[@kzg_veritas12]

Helps that it's still -12

[@JunKazamaFan]

Even eith these "nerfs", Tekken 8 is still Dragunov's game.

[@smnvalex]

They specify in the start of the notes that they are working on a patch that will change the characters and how they play pretty substantially so they did not want to make too many changes right now

[@IAMOP]

03:25 look at that damage, they really need to nerf devil jin this time

[@Lehao_TK]

Devil Jin's ch ws3 ewgf was possible even before the patch kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWnWo4OqodV0eNksi=Y5U8-LivK9cSdGkQ&t=3072

[@foreveruseless1292]

We can't keep letting Devil Jin get away with this fr

[@sukalyanmajumdar1196]

i mean.... we did cry for whole Tekken 7 for #BuffLars , Bamco heard too much of us I guess

[@dyvyby]

@@sukalyanmajumdar1196 same with Dragunov during S4

[@johnmaco]

Definitely

[@JuliusCaesar103]

So impressive you know so much of all the cast of characters.

[@backslicer2543]

Depends on how you learn the game. if you focus on fundementals and not tunnel vision on a single character its not hard. Also helps immensely with matchups

[@Moooniemoon]

​@backslicer2543 plus it's hella fun going to practice and labbing out everyone and doing their combo trials

[@BeretBay]

As a Steve main, I knew exactly what that CH nerf was lol. I was ready for it tho.

[@xer05tar]

Straight up. I stopped using it after the first day. I knew it was on its way out.

[@silentartist7854]

We all knew that shit wasn’t gonna fly for long lmao.

[@FixerFour]

Surely dragunov doing 2 less damage on his combo is a big enough nerf to make him stop dominating

[@TonyHighwind]

~a short time later...~

[@Netami923]

Lol nerfing the dmg of Dragunov isn't going to make him less playable this game was perfectly made for him

[@HeWhoGoons]

They already said they are planning on more nerfs for him. Specifically his plus frames

[@LuizFelipe-lm4ih]

They said they're gonna focus on damage on this patch so 🤷

[@Tom3kkk]

@@HeWhoGoons yeah bro see you in 3 months when the patch comes out and drag ruins another season of the game lmao

[@songoku6067]

Just damage nerfs isnt gonna do shit to him they need to adjust his absurd frames

[@zato-1766]

Yea, exactly, granted they are specifically stating they're avoiding changes that like change the way characters are played so dmg is all they're really gonna target. But even if Drag got his dmg. halved he just plays this game so we'll he'd still be a pain in the ass he'd just hit like glass Joe.

[@1chance34]

Bandai namco do not nerf Steve tech challenge *impossible*

[@ametozukumazu6073]

What opponent let's you do the ki charge and the ex duck?

[@tristanherb49]

thats the point even when its difficult to actually do they csnt steve let have any cool shit.​@@ametozukumazu6073

[@joekline5554]

@@ametozukumazu6073there’s a set up for it if they don’t delay wake up they get grabbed it was the only thing making our heat not worst in game

[@warfighter1988]

Disheartening at this point

[@joekline5554]

@@warfighter1988 absolutely we lose our stance cancel tech, this tech and we don’t get the devil Jin treatment so after heat smash we’re still forced into a stance that can’t move or block. Thanks harada

[@Ch1lldude08]

This mans match up knowledge must be crazy😭

[@HoDoBoDo]

Dragunov as usual... getting away with murder 😂. I know they said in patch 1.09 that Dragunov will get tuned properly, but I still find it funny that they're doing very tiny changes to him every patch.

[@IAMOP]

I think it's better to go slowly, otherwise they will kill him like Azucena

[@HoDoBoDo]

@@IAMOP Ah yh, you're right.

[@HoDoBoDo]

​@@IAMOPNever thought about it that way, but slower does seem better.

[@FWCrash]

@@HoDoBoDo i agree with slow nerfs, but QCF4 has problems that arent related to it's damage. Those have not been adressed for ages (mainly it hitting grounded and whatnot)

[@FixerFour]

@@IAMOP The game would be a lot better if the top 5 all got Azucena'd. She's a LOT more fun to play now than she was in 1.0

[@xer05tar]

I dont understand why they keep nerfing Steve. He's the least of anyones problems in this game.

[@championredd]

That rave buff is so good I’m gonna actually play him now I think every character should get a combo on rage art

[@cursedcrow1033]

@@championredd Just make Rage Arts universal -20 and boom Problem solved . But no noobs need their Panic Button

[@championredd]

@@cursedcrow1033fr went against a guy earlier who did it 5 times in a row even tho I punished every time😂

[@cursedcrow1033]

@@championredd Yes but some characters get no launch on block only mini combos like Zafina or Steve

[@championredd]

@@cursedcrow1033 fr bruh that’s why I stopped playing zafina

[@HoDoBoDo]

@championredd They should definitely make em all launch punishable by everyone again. It's annoying how they have to go full casual with Rage Arts. They're already annoying as it is. Why make them even more annoying 🙄...

[@blahblahgdp]

Why would you nerf steve ki charge setup when he's also vulnerable lol

[@IXIKAYAKOxSAEKIIXI]

I guess Steve don’t get hit fast enough

[@peacekeeperjfsr]

​@@IXIKAYAKOxSAEKIIXIthey can buffmindless characters that require no skill but when it comes to steve it's the opposite

[@marceloguia6107]

​​​@@peacekeeperjfsr They also nerfed his WS 1 2, don't know if this was in previous patch, but immediately noticed this weekend after a hiatus. You used to be able to interrupt opponents after a Heat Burst if they got too cocky, because it forced crouch on you. Now you can't interrupt shit, cuz the opponent seems to have advantage on Heat Burst... I thought the burst was meant to reset the situation, not increase pressure on an already overpressurized game... Honestly felt so weird playing him yesterday, cuz so many of my previous strategies seemed to either not work or just felt off...

[@dronnovik95]

It is general change of unintended behavior. It is not steve nerf

[@FOOLK1LLAH]

This is my 1st game maining Steve because all his stances and mechanics are fun but like many I agree that he is one of the more mechanically challenging characters to play. With that in mind, every patch I see involving Steve has him nerfed in some way. While this one doesn’t look too bad, I’m finding it hard to justify not switching to an easier to play character as it feels like we are being punished for figuring out setups for difficult characters

[@laku-tikku554]

Always thought something was up with Asukas power crush

[@shinodaV3]

I KNEW I WASNT TRIPPING LIKE

[@Rezetro]

They finally nerfed dragunovs qcf4. No more wall splat, no more knock down. It only took 10 months.

[@JunKazamaFan]

Devil Jin...buffs? What is this madness?!

[@Ch1lldude08]

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS😤

[@tristanherb49]

steve is the new devil jin they nerf him if they can 😂

[@mitsuhaha5574]

Dead or Alive OST... I hope this franchise makes a comeback eventually.

[@3xeplodng_3agle_studios]

"Comeback" you mean after shooting themselves in both feet woth how they handled the end of doa5 and *_all of_* doa6? You mean how its been dead for years now? How doa5 was the first time in years anyone REALLY cared about the franchise? Because thats the point in time from where 80% of people who care now came from? No. They dont need a comeback. They need an entire REVIVAL at this point. TEKKEN X DOA *_needs_* to happen, and sega needs to give up virtuafighter and let Tecmo have those character so we can get them too. Then give us the SNK dlcs from doa5 and 6. Full tekken roster, full foa roster. Never gonna happen. But itd sell like hotcakes.

[@Crimsongz]

It’s over

[@xHuie]

which doa song?

[@MrCjosue24]

​​@@xHuiecharacter select screen in DOA 6.

[@mitsuhaha5574]

@@xHuie The very first one. DOA6's main menu theme if I'm not wrong.

[@Lieutenant_john_]

That discord sound at 4:29 had me restart my whole laptop and update discord thinking where tf is the message at?

[@breezetha27]

🤢

[@Ymyeh-lr8wj]

of course that back turn xiaoyu throw needed a tracking buff.... Of effing course it did. Its not enough you cant hold forward anymore to fall to the ground to avoid the combo like with T7 they had to give it tracking.

[@TheAeonAnimA]

It had tracking to begin with. They just put it back after they took it away a few patches ago.

[@yukidoki1482]

It is 30 frames and you can easily break it ffs you can sidestep every other move in bt. I mean they can take it but in exchange she gets a good ws launcher, any ch launcher, a string that isnt crap, a low outside of stance that isnt crap. A good armor move. More combo options so that you have more than 1. Actual dmg on her moves. A homing move that isnt crap.

[@baconbitz7804]

@@yukidoki1482I’m pretty sure she’s able to hide her arms during it with a taunt or something like that

[@Ymyeh-lr8wj]

​@@yukidoki1482 You cant just say ss bt specially if they are plus. any decent ling wont spam the same move over and over and try to mix you up. Personaly I prefer to block and punish bt. its not worth getting nicked by something mid ss 30-40% of the time imo. unless you have a hard read. I have ducked the throw on reaction at times but havent practiced enough to maximize my punish. Also, Ling never had damage thats her design. Hell this is prob the most damaging ling Ive seen. I am just saying it was already a huge buff she gets the combo guaranteed after the throw but tracking throws is just a no for me.

[@monkeplaysgames7049]

2 damage nerf is gonna put drag at F tier for sure

[@adityatoppo7809]

Damn the xaoyou custom looks fire 🔥

[@xXSH1N0B1Xx]

I like how Asuka got her df3 back. I also wanna add that lings homing grab tho good... I'dd actually prefer if the opponents sidesteppes into my back so I can caliroll.. but launch is launch \_(:l)_/

[@TheAeonAnimA]

True… the grab tracked before patch (1.04?) and they gave it back. It’s a cancellable grab after all, it not tracking led to all kinds of issues around misalignment.

[@RuTo94]

Raven mains eating this patch 👏👏 well deserved buff

[@jaycomics3443]

Thanks for these videos buff/nerfs video. It crazy how this doesn't directly come from Tekken Team/Bamco

[@S1lverArr0w]

*sigh* why tf does whorerang need buffs. He's already oppressive asf and can hardly step him.

[@nekobig]

nerfing Steve? omg, the Kazuya meme finally over and now is steve time imagine nerfing a ki charge setup x.x

[@ralphthemonster]

Bamco tries not to forget about Zafina challenge (Impossible)

[@FreeAimDog]

playing tekken 2 and 3 made me realize how much less tekken became about fighting ability and more about juggling, like in tekken 2 and single string of 3 or 4 hits will KO you in afew seconds but in the newer games it seems longer to get KO.

[@kazumasumeragi3666]

I was starting to get a hang of Steve as my 2nd main, then they'll nerf him again...

[@warfighter1988]

They reallybdont want steve players to have fun

[@sixonesix3915]

That Steve one was kinda cool rip

[@kemalerdemsahin410]

They nerf steve's ki charge setup but not Hwo's huh

[@Xardyn9412]

As a Dragunov main, I wanted that qcf+4 damage nerf because it made his other tools redundant in combos. Pre-patch, there was hardly any reason to end with qcf+1+2.

[@MrDesolution]

Still isn't haha

[@ShiningSparkL1n6]

Need new route for combo using qcf 3+4 😅👍

[@darkragezx]

Paul was so unnecessary buff in my opinion, hes brain dead easy to use and they keep buffing the hell out of him.

[@FoulPlayer-v8v]

Paul is the hardest character to win with . Everyone knows how to counter paul . The buff was necessary

[@renganime2151]

zafina not getting any changes nor additions for 2 patches is a crime

[@since2133]

And as usual we’ll all forget the sneaky buffs they gave Feng.

[@shaokahnthecenturion9682]

steve b1 still not fixed even after recieving a specific fix for the b1 hit animation in 1.07

[@malikmuhammad7179]

Nah them still not fixing xiaoyu’s backturn tracking actually made me laugh out loud

[@GamingwithMr925]

Thank you for this video. It helped me understood the patch notes a lot better

[@SureBestie]

(This is not a balance patch, all they did was tweak overall move properties and fix broken hitboxes)

[@iDoAutographs]

the Drag patch is similar to them leaving out one fry and saying "this is a medium not a large"

[@dannyrpt]

A good Dragunov Nerf? qcf 4 shouldn't hit grounded... It's already safe on block and tracks like a mf. You'd need to be on some seriously strong drugs to be able to perfectly step that move

[@yohtaoken]

As a DJ main, having no other buffs besides another unsafe mid homing move and essentially omen ewgf makes so much sense. High execution on demand for high damage in areas only a few other characters are allowed to perform due to -13. If they keep nerfing other characters’ damage, he might get an identity back besides arguably worst Mishima

[@tokugijoo]

Lol who's arguing, he's definitely the worst Mishima

[@Christianssj4-Gaming]

I'm crying... they buffed my Lars... 😆

[@tndmrappelz7210]

og outro 🔥

[@Makons420]

your content is top tier

[@tristanherb49]

bamco or harada really hate steve right?

[@via_negativa6183]

They are gonna have to do a bit more than just damage slaps on the wrist for dragunov and nina

[@LesserCheshire]

Guys, they fixed the game. Drag now does a little less damage. Don't forget to show your love and support by buying the new stage! That money will be used to fund the next patch that will make Paul's deathfist deal an additional 1 damage. They're really hard at work at bamco so the $5 will really help out these small indie devs.

[@williams_xh]

Great video ❤❤

[@ProjectPewgf]

I knew that Nina one was bs and i got robbed due to T8 bug (camera / inverted input / switchup delay)

[@2D_is_all_I_need]

thanks for showing my DVJ getting some love

[@Shiratto]

Finally my uf 3+4 will stop whiffing all the time with DJ!

[@nathanwylie2587]

The end of this clip was enough to get me to subscribe 😂

[@kusakabehibana31]

Steve is horrendously nerfed

[@melvinshine9841]

Xiaoyu absolutely did not need that. I'm already guessing for my life every time I fight that woman.

[@SGHNTZ]

It's the slowest throw in the game. Is it cancellable? It's still the slowest throw in the game.

[@Rius9106]

She doesn't have any other homing options out of that stance. So it was very much needed. Also you could already realign by using taunt at the wall so this buff isn't gonna change that situation anyways. The throw is so slow that you should be able to counter it easily in the open.

[@eutimiolongoria4696]

I disagree. The throw’s speed doesn’t matter when her hands are masked (can’t tell if it is regular or 1+2 throw) and she’s usually plus in these situations. No tracking options? Good. Make Xiayou change the timing of her attacks or empty Cali Roll to realign or use bt-jab. Xiayou did not need this buff smh

[@SiegmundX]

Grabs shouldn't be homing

[@Rius9106]

@@eutimiolongoria4696 it does though. Doesn't matter if it is a 1, 2 or a 1+2, i33 startup is around snake edge speed, you should be able to just duck all of those options. Or even better interrupt it and get a float combo. She is also extremely minus on whiff. Timing or realignment wasn't really giving any issues, the throws just didn't almost have any use without homing property.

[@Tha-mountain]

5:36 WE MADE IT BOIS

[@SGHNTZ]

Why did they nerf this Steve tech? Ki charge into throw is something that will almost never happen, or was there a setup for it? They should have just scale the damage down.

[@smug5514]

dude ifkr, thanks Bamco : )

[@PsychMan]

The KI charge change was made because it wouldn't apply to throws in general I believe so you would keep the "counter" damage until it was used in a hit. Steve to my knowledge was the only one that benefitted from it because of his clinch, but you were more or less telegraphing it because you knew what option most times would come out.

[@cloudcoastgaming]

@@PsychMan that made it a strong mixup when you pulled it off and went for the 2 option. Thats a big nerf lowkkey

[@unchartedrocks1]

Can u miss add in an up & down arrow next time to state immediately what is a buff or nerf? Some moments required me to rewind to look at carefully & figure it out.

[@OddSauce]

these dragunov "nerfs" are almost INSULTING

[@m.yudiyudi2316]

Counter Punching Paragon ❌ Counter Punching Are Gone ✅

[@vaper8824]

All I hear is people complaining about Drag but I only encounter him once out of 30 games and most of them are terrible.

[@MyJackel13]

Finally someone finally made the video!!!

[@3ASY355]

Next patch, we have removed both of Steve arms 🤣🤣

[@reirei_tk]

Wow, did they finally fix asukas df3 after all these years?

[@kosaido2588]

That jin nerf and dragunov nerf is the most useless nerf i've seen lol Of all things broken (Jin D2 being -14, Jin Heat smash being a nuke, drag qcf4 being plus 7 and tracking, b4 2 safety) they nerf magic 4 combo dmg which is rarely used XD

[@DiabolicCrusher]

Main Steve mains just can't catch a break

[@phillyphil050888]

do you keep a version of the game in the last version to make these videos. i appreciate them

[@kei.s7077]

Lars's only ws string is buffed,praise bamco

[@Pasiion_Lee]

Those damage nerfs for Drag can go a long way….. 😶

[@dummyname7543]

IMO, the reason drag is strong is tracking!

[@akiamendoza8859]

They didn't have to give raven a i15 launcher if they made rage arts -1000 like in T7

[@CrapsGoodxD]

FINALLY my boy raven getting SOMETHING

[@harry_hydrogen]

I wanna play Nina, and these new changes are bringing her combo game closer to T7’s she’s just so milquetoast. If SSR QCF1 combos after DF2 get me 80+ i might come back.

[@kurayamik1]

YOOO Nice taste on that music 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@FoulPlayer-v8v]

Man why steve has to suffer every time?

[@SnakeInTheRain]

Best song from DOA

[@aionmaleco2070]

Xiaoyu now don t loses more tornado during X axis in ceratin combos but Y axis is stay normal things

[@wonderx9997]

DVJ just keeps getting done dirty.

[@K_Narat]

Are the clips for the Nina qcf1 chain switched or......

[@IAMOP]

It got switched, mentioned in pinned comment

[@KennyCombo]

Bro they gotta leave steve alone this is actually depressing now😭😭

[@chrishipop5]

Raven needs more buffs but this is a start Give him back his hellsweep!

[@syahrules]

I don't at all understand their justification of nerfing steve when he's already lacking counter hit moves. Is he now jusf a "normal hit paragon"?

[@tristanherb49]

he aint a even a normal hit paragon he is just a guy at this point.

[@crustypaff452]

They are probably targeting poke dmg but -2 and -4 dmg nerf ROFL...

[@jtlaw]

😢no...they screwed Law over again by removing the only useful just frame we had...his punches are totally useless now....

[@kzg_veritas12]

Lars with the G Clef buff 💯💯💯🔥🙏

[@BlackPegasusBP]

Man, they sure nerfed that Dragunov. Unplayable now

[@xbgsheikiii3593]

I CAN FINALLY STOP MICRODASHING FOR ASUKA F4 😭🙏

[@IAMOP]

You still need to lol It's a Double microdash now

[@xbgsheikiii3593]

@@IAMOP i thought my fingers could rest bruh

[@babulakham6247]

Always nerfing Steve for no reason

[@tqhr]

4:30 that dc ping got me f´d up

[@RandomPerson28337]

They nerfed Steve again? But didn't touch fagunov.

[@radicalstanza3614]

Are you 8 years old and living in the 2000s? Sorry your parents failed you, but please grow up.

[@SFtheWolf]

I unironically expected them to nerf devil jin more

[@tristanherb49]

nah steve is worse than devil jin they always look to nerf him

[@NameTakenSensei]

Not related to balance or anything, but what is that top for Xiaoyu? I can not find it in the store, was it from the last battlepass?

[@IAMOP]

It's a mod tekkenmods.com/mod/3968/hoodie-swimsuit2set-2hair

[@NameTakenSensei]

@@IAMOP you’re the best sir 👍

[@zzz8606]

I love these videos man

[@hywolfgaming8932]

yet another uncalled for steve nerf.... lets keep nerfing move properties of mid characters and ONLY doing damage nerfs to the top tiers with no property changes.

[@socialassassin_]

kaz stays winning now