Major developments in the Delphi Murders trial

[@We_Are_All_Vultures]

No new major developments. Save your time.

[@happypanda610]

You’re a real one

[@Jammn126]

Gull is sabotaging this whole case. Where’s the justice for Abby and Libby?

[@frankboff1260]

There will only be some semblance of justice if the right person is convicted otherwise it’s just another injustice

[@MetalMiIIs]

You are missing *loads* of data that Judge Gull has access to. Richard Allen will be able to file an appeal after the fact but this man admitted to the killings more than once and apparently gave details that no one else would have known. The man confessed.

[@imaginationbound960]

@@MetalMiIIs At least one of the “confessions” was that he shot them, which we know is not true, so that casts doubt on the confessions. It’s well known that people will falsely confess out of mental/emotional exhaustion, and it’s known that other inmates will often claim someone confessed when they didn’t, at the behest of the investigators who ask them to be informants for benefit.

[@MetalMiIIs]

​@@imaginationbound960 BS. People don't confess multiple times over an extended time period if they didn't do it. It wasn't like Brendan Dassey's confession where they had him in a room for 8 hours or whatever. Idk where you heard that he claimed he shot them, nor how you would verify the source. Maybe he did pull the trigger but the gun jammed and that accounts for the unspent round. Either way the jury will get to hear it so don't be surprised when they render a guilty verdict. No offense but I think y'all spend too much time on reddit and watching Murder Sheet. The FBI wrote practically every book on ritual murder and serial killing, if they didn't think the crime scene was ritualistic then it most likely wasn't. We shall see.

[@Saritabanana]

This is all so shady

[@jarrettfullerton2580]

Absolutely...Gull is crooked and dude is being railroaded

[@pommiebears]

This stinks. I don’t know if Allen is guilty or not, and the judge isn’t going to help in that regard during trial either.

[@annplante3439]

There is no justice for anyone in this particular case when the judge acts like the defendent is already guilty and is not hiding it at all. She acts like she has a personal animosity toward this defendent. It’s obvious Indiana has a glaring problem with this particular judge as she practices her version of the law. The girls do NOT receive justice if the wrong peson is found ‘guilty’, Rich Allen IS being treated like he is guilty but the judge will not let him present evidence to defend himself. He is in a horrible position where a judge gives him the task of proving he’s innocent but without the benefit of evidence he says he has to prove himself innocent! Unreal. No cameras. This judge should either be removed or Rich Allen should appeal everything. And this is clearly a case where the judge is breaking the most basic of a case: the burden of proof of guilt is on the state, the defendant is innocent till proven guilty. She is a dishonorable judge.

[@musicjenjen]

How will we see the truth?? No media. No audio. No streaming.

[@tommyg5095]

State gets to use ballistics experts but the defense can't.... WTF....

[@althegreat2961]

The guy the defense wants to call isn't an expert, that's why. Not anyone can be deemed and called an expert.

[@mangos2888]

The real story is on how awful Judge Gull is to the defense team

[@nexx456]

Confuse the jury with sketches ? . Hello. You were looking for men looked like that & Jury should know

[@jakejones5163]

Trials never use the sketches this is more shenanigans from the defense

[@MidWestLife2022]

Not in my opinion. Those are the sketches that were given to the public. That is what they said the suspect looked like. They should absolutely be shown to the jury. Now that it doesn't fit their narrative they want to hide the sketches they released to the public 😂😂😂​@@jakejones5163

[@slaws2279]

Sketches are investigative tools. They’re usually not admitted as evidence in trials.

[@MrXingor]

The sketches weren't used to identify him. They're not relevant to the trial at all.

[@MidWestLife2022]

@@MrXingor guess it depends who you ask. That being said I expect the judge to rule them irrelevant. She seems to have a pattern of dismissing what the masses seem relevant 🤷

[@jennifermounts7559]

That hair that does not belong to Allen though...pitiful investigation.

[@truthtransparency]

You did a great job in there during jury selection! I was in there with ya! The one walking around on Sunday - Lana! Thanks for your efforts!

[@heytam7162]

On the pretext of the Judges other rulings why should the bullet be allowed in if a gun was not involved in their murder?

[@raelynneoti]

this judge needs to be thrown out. not allowing all evidence to be presented in trail ex the odinist claims… & NO CAMERAS?! I fear real justice won’t be served & these innocent girls deserve so much more than that 😔

[@nemonucliosis]

30 seat open to the public.

[@raelynneoti]

@@nemonucliosis 30 seats doesn’t account for the rest of the world that are entitled to judicial fairness & transparency

[@jayceecee8651]

Judge controls the court, not the public. If they object to cameras, then there's nothing that you can do about it. These were kids, not adults, that were murdered, that's something people keep forgetting.

[@raelynneoti]

@@jayceecee8651 doesn’t matter who runs the courts, the public still has a right to ensure our legal system is working the way its supposed to. our tax dollars also go towards these trials therefore we should be entitled for that reason not only for the sake that its our constitutional right

[@BRLambert4]

​@@raelynneotiThe right to a trial is the defendant's right. The public isn't entitled to live, up to the minute updates on the criminal process. The public has a right to access any and all public records, unless a record has been sealed. There are parts of a criminal investigation that aren't public records, like a defendant's discovery, someone's medical history or even adoption records. People are only outraged that they can't watch this case online bc this is entertainment / content.

[@Let1423]

Cops are involved!

[@chicorodriguez5196]

They’re railroading this guy, a lot like they would do in Steuben County.

[@Deb-fs9st]

Innocent

[@michaelbartley9572]

No new major developments. Got it.

[@deltabluesdavidraye]

They are protecting their own police officer that likely committed the crime

[@ariannaclearday]

They have an Odinite problem there.

[@KitKatToeBeans]

Watch the documentary “Taken Together: who killed Lyric & Elizabeth?” It raises questions about who was involved in this case.

[@AMYV3]

no expert on the hunk science of unspent bullets if not you can’t get worse corruption then this trial. 🤦‍♀️

[@hunter51932]

This guy did not do it.

[@sammyday3341]

You’re not following the logic of the evidence. You’re acting on emotion.

[@jovialpunch]

@sammyday3341 can you define a logical and cogent argument based of existing evidence as to how RA is legitimately guilty of these crimes?

[@imaginationbound960]

@@sammyday3341It’s hard to follow something that isn’t there. Really stinks that the witnesses whose testimonies were used in the PCA won’t be allowed to talk about how their statements were altered for the PCA

[@dhayden1981]

The hair obtained by Abby was not Richard's hair. That's DNA that can identify the killer.

[@natenope7258]

@@jovialpunchlol his bullet was sitting next to them, and he was admittedly at the park. He confessed several times. How is he AT the park the same time two people are killed and his bullet is ejected from his gun next to the girls? 😊

[@dankerns171]

They have evidence on him! Lets see where the evidence points to first.

[@marvinadarby8212]

I wonder why they have never mentioned a motive for the murders. So tragic❤

[@justinpruitt9285]

They don’t have one

[@annabrown7302]

GUILTY

[@johnharris8486]

I just want this to be over. Such a sad day.

[@slaws2279]

Wonder why the defense withdrew their request to have the jury visit the crime scene.

[@johnlarson4254]

I thought the judge denied that request

[@slaws2279]

@@johnlarson4254 same.

[@MissysAngels]

Wasn’t worth arguing and wasting time because she would of denied it, so before she went through the trouble they withdrew it

[@Jackson-r4t]

They have the wrong guy.

[@frankboff1260]

That’s what I’ve suspected all along. Pressure to catch the killer became too much so they grabbed the first guy they could.

[@jarrettfullerton2580]

​@@frankboff1260nailed it! This 100%

[@SusanHunter-d5e]

I think they have the wrong person also. I think it is someone they knew

[@sammyday3341]

Why make it more complicated than it is? The girls clearly do not know BG as he approaches them in the video, as Abby asks Libby “Is that guy still behind me?” RA fits the description, the video, the audio. He admitted he was there 1:30-3:30, then changed his story when he realized he was a suspect. The ballistics match. He sought mental healthcare shortly after the murders.

[@dhayden1981]

@@sammyday3341 you do not have audio of RA. So you cannot say that. What they have is BG on video and audio. Do not confused one with the other. Ballistics might match, but girls werent murdered with a gun.

[@imaginationbound960]

@@sammyday3341Ballistics isn’t involved. The round wasn’t fired. Cycled and ejected rounds cannot be definitively connected to an individual firearm. Also, that round wasn’t found until after the crime scene had been released for a day and half, then resecured. And the round was found IN the dirt. Something smells rotten.

[@SEOdork4hire]

If he didn't confess, this would be a close case imo

[@kevinhornbuckle]

Does it make a difference whether he confessed one time or sixty times?

[@steppy3736]

Considering he confessed to shooting them in the back and he confessed to shooting his own family, I doubt those confessions are reliable.

[@Anna-xx1lv]

His “confessions” are not reliable. The jury will hear and understand this. Arm chairs only hear he “confessed” that is enough for them.

[@SEOdork4hire]

@@steppy3736 how do you know that?

[@justinpruitt9285]

@@SEOdork4hirethe defense attorneys brought this up in there mini opening statements to the jury pools. Also brought he confessed to killing his grand kids which he doesn’t have grand kids

[@bethanywhite877]

Not including the sketches would be a Brady violation wouldn’t it? Seems the jury should know the public was told to look for those two suspects over the years. They were all over tv and social media constantly. Why would a jury be confused? Are they calling the jury stupid? Sure sounds like it.

[@amyb347]

A Brady violation doesn't have anything to do with the jury. It's when one side intentionally withholds discovery from the other, therefore hindering their case. In this case all sketches were available to the attorneys

[@bethanywhite877]

@@amyb347 thank you. I figured I had that wrong but wanted to ask. Thanks for your response.

[@pommiebears]

Aren’t relevant to the case? Someone please explain THAT to me, because where I’m from, it’s exculpatory evidence.

[@Deb-fs9st]

New judge corrupt

[@musicjenjen]

But the sketches were used by LE for the manhunt & didn't confuse citizens, but now they will confuse citizens? WTF?!

[@Davidsgirl-wu3bc]

Newsflash..the truth won't come out because the judge is blocking a lot of information and evidence that would allow the defense to put on a case. Through the pre-trial hearings and now leading into the trial, Judge Gull appears to highly favor the Prosecution. My belief is that a defendant is entitled to put on a defense. I don't know if Richard Allen is guilty or innocent, but he deserves to be able to put on a defense so the jury has all the evidence from both sides so they can make an educated decision.

[@dinahmays510]

Ready to hear the truth… Very doubtful

[@ronaldhoneycutt4880]

Thanks for keeping it real with both of your male broadcasters completely non- offensive and appreciated

[@kevinhornbuckle]

From what I can tell, they are real.

[@ronaldhoneycutt4880]

@@kevinhornbuckle well let’s hope so because once I see what I’m referring to then all bets are off with being non-offensive

[@RealBigBadJohn]

Great call letters, WISH.

[@GuyReed-mh6sv]

On and on.

[@sammyday3341]

I believe the Richard Allen fan club is in for a dose of reality. He stated in 2017 he was there 1:30-3:30, then changed his timeline when he realized he was under suspicion. He matches the description from at least four eyewitnesses. He looks like BG and the ‘older guy’ sketch. He sought mental health help after the murders. His firearm is the same caliber as the unfired cartridge and ballistics of extraction marks match up. His confessions to his wife and mother were told before he started putting on a crazy act at the direction of the defense. His car was caught on surveillance during the timeframe of the murders. I believe electronic data, clothing, and possibly souvenirs gathered during the search of his home will make people re-think their impression of RA. Motive? Odds are he’s a sexual predator with a hidden past, but he may have been enraged by something the girls said to him as they got on the bridge and he was coming off. He crossed back over to the south end to confront them. But odds are he’s a predator.

[@johnlarson4254]

Well said. I agree

[@figmentofyourimagination5359]

Also there's a photo of him in his house with one of the police sketches hung on the wall. He looks like the guy in the bridge video. It's him.

[@JordanTHEcatlady]

That was not at his home... it was in a bar out in public.​@@figmentofyourimagination5359

[@MissysAngels]

So here is the thing: most prisoners with fan clubs are men, single, some might perceive decent looking, and the fans are ALL desperate women of all ages… Now let’s compare to Ricks “fan club” as you call it, they are comprised of men and women of all races, ages, occupations, including real lawyers, (yes I know you don’t consider these lawyers to be very good at their job). But please tell me another prisoner that had such a diversity of people (including many lawyers and others in well educated positions) saying they got the wrong guy… WAITING … So your term “fan club” doesn’t quite work‼️

[@justinpruitt9285]

@@figmentofyourimagination5359that’s not his house ffs, if you can’t get a small easy detail like that correct you might want to go back reread what’s going on in this case

[@PamelaTaylor]

THIS TRAIL WILL BE A DOZY

[@paulettahansel1608]

Blocking peeps

[@romerez917]

they will not find him guilty.

[@heatherrrenea]

How can a judge not allow an expert? That’s not shady at all. Innocent until proven guilty. But you know there has to be some kind of defense to. If he is who did it he deserves all he gets. But if it is an innocent man our tax dollars are being wasted on a man that’s not even guilty. Not to mention the girls made that video just to prove who did it. They knew something wasn’t right and it wouldn’t be justice for them. But I guess we will never know since the judge isn’t allowing actual evidence for a defense in.

[@DennyDavis-gd7cv]

The judge has been against RA all along.

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

4:19 blind cop?

[@jeromegarcia5396]

Lol are they serious, the sketches are not relevant?? These professionals aren't being serious are they? I hope the girls spirits haunt everyone involved including this fake justice system, as a parent I'd go nuclear DEFCON 10, I feel sorry for the families...

[@sammyday3341]

This just in: For the opening statement of the defense, RA’s lawyers had to talk him out of his plan to stand up and confess.

[@justinpruitt9285]

Crazy how you posted this before opening statements

[@leasnow709]

He is an Odinist

[@dhayden1981]

No he is not. They already checked it out. There's no evidence proving this myth. He also had no ties or connections to the girls prior to their deaths.

[@iMatti00]

❓@4:20 ~ What the hell is this cop doing? Anybody know? I feel like he’s marking the tires to make sure the car moves. Sometimes they do that with chalk by marking the tire and the concrete to see if the mark changes. But I don’t see this cop marking the concrete and I don’t even see a mark showing up on the tire. So anybody know what’s going on?

[@iMatti00]

❓@4:20 ~ What the hell is this cop doing? Anybody know? I feel like he’s marking the tires to make sure the car moves. Sometimes they do that with chalk by marking the tire and the concrete to see if the mark changes. But I don’t see this cop marking the concrete and I don’t even see a mark showing up on the tire. So anybody know what’s going on?b