MAJOR Riding/Flying Updates Coming in the War Within Pre-Patch

[@MrGM]

What do you think of the Riding/Flying changes coming in the War Within Pre-Patch? twitch.tv/MrGM

[@myvanlife1]

Did I hear you correctly that we are going to be at 705% in the War within? So the new expansion we'll be flying slower than now? That doesn't seem to make sense, I wonder why?

[@ms.honiqualisha4529]

What about Dracthyr soar ? Can it be made static ? You did not address that .

[@MrGM]

Yep that was my bad! Sorry about that. Dracthyr will be able to switch flight styles and use static flying with Soar

[@WrecklessMEDIC]

I think the 5 second cast time to switch between static and "skyriding" is a little long. I find myself switching between a standard flying mount and a dragonriding mount fairly often in Panda Remix already and it's instantaneous to switch now. Maybe a change to 2 or 3 seconds down the road is possible.

[@Sayntofficial]

Amazing, love all of the changes!

[@GabrielGarcia-pi3hn]

God im in love with the way the running mounts fly

[@dr.zoidberg8666]

Sinrunner Blanchy finally at her full potential for my blood DK

[@m_rod9562]

Its pretty sick, minus the spinning that Looks kinda lame. Makes sense with bird-like mounts, not so much horses.

[@JojoSherrill]

Seen the Monk Tiger mount pouncing through the sky, it was amazing 👏

[@rellikx7519]

Came to say this, love the horses. I thought the ones that leave foot prints in air were already cool, but this new galloping and leaping animation is amazing.

[@MostCoolestName]

same here except the spin they do that looks dumb. its only fitting for something with wings

[@trevorsreya8277]

Seeing high-speed aerial galloping from the horses, complete with barrel rolls, is probably the most beautiful thing I've seen in WoW.

[@NetherStray]

Reminds me a lot of the Disney pegasi in Fantasia. Gorgeous and makes me really want a proper pegasus mount in WoW.

[@enchantedecho57]

That subtle "420% blaze it" 🤣🤣

[@FirstNullLast]

They know us too well

[@allianceorc]

the opportunity was not wasted

[@Jason-993]

Yeah easy dislike 🤣🤣

[@KyzenHD72]

I was going to post just that 🤣🤣

[@-.-Monster]

420 static flying is gonna be much more useful for questing / gathering and dragonriding will be great for long a to b trips. i love it.

[@rawcoustic1718]

I just wish u dont need to cast 5 sec spell to switch it. I like how it is now

[@kramergadd3672]

I think skyriding will be better for just about everything unless gathering nodes are really close together. Maybe like half afk KZbin gathering and questing static will be better.

[@-.-Monster]

@@kramergadd3672 im just thinking if they do something like tuskar boxes again that have certain areas where they're very tightly clustered together with mining nodes/herb nodes / expedition bags I used to exclusively make gold from my mog farming in old raids but some of these clusters ive managed to do 50+k gold in an hour. the reason i use static is the unreliable launches with dragonriding if the upcoming node is just a small fly away

[@GASH_one]

420

[@SicariusGaming87]

@@rawcoustic1718 Thats the super annoying part. Why does it have to be 5s? Why cant it just be instant? Or at the very least, castable while mounted. But still doesnt need to be 5s. I could summon and dismount twice before that cast goes off. It's not efficient.

[@D3th10rd]

As much as I love skyriding, I am glad they are keeping standard available and viable for the people who dont or can't use it due to motion sickness or other reasons.

[@elvoandro7087]

Genuine, can't u understand getting motion sickness from this.

[@akpade]

Motion sickness 😂😂😂

[@cleversonsutil4495]

Other reasons: I need to hover over a place

[@Jay-407]

@@akpadelmfao

[@Kenji-117]

autowalk/fly lmao

[@Juugsimba]

Give DH Demonic Flying!

[@crveni94acdc]

And warlock !

[@ademord]

THIS !!???!!!

[@nobodyImportantl0l0l]

@@crveni94acdc warlocks dont have wings...

[@omnirayr9810]

AND PALADINS

[@Tillit_01]

​@@nobodyImportantl0l0l They have Felsteed ;D but yeah it doesn't fly either. I don't see a reason the current WLs' and Palas' mounts should fly.

[@Shedovv]

Switching Flightstyle should be an instant cast 3 second CD, that is done WHILE MOUNTED!

[@ademord]

Agree

[@Noridin]

Yes, a 5 second cast every time is a terrible idea. I think being able to pick a few to stay static while the rest are dynamic would be good too.

[@2freeIvX]

Yall really dint understand why they do that? Otherwise the fastest way to move will be switching none stop.

[@webslinger325]

Should be per mount

[@Havyng25]

​@@2freeIvXThat's the right answer. It will be meta to switch every time and will be making the gameplay utterly boring

[@icefyer2]

I think it'd be awesome if Ride Along worked with druid flight forms, like how the old Lunar Wing owl form lets someone ride you, or how the Mount Form glyph does the same for the ground travel form

[@JoeKonczyk]

One thing that I enjoy about flying now as a Druid as I can switch into flight form while dragon riding that will be missed with these updates because flight form as a Druid is a way to hover and stop while you’re flying instead of having to cast on the ground to change these flying mechanics.

[@IznelW]

Something I am sad we appear to be losing if all flying mounts are made Skyriding-capable is the ability to have a "Normal Flying Mount" and a "Skyriding Mount", both on standby at a moments notice. Perhaps they could allow us to override the 5sec cast flight style default on specific mounts? Does anyone else feel this way?

[@GeorgePrountz]

YES, 5 seconds cast is completely unnecessary. We should be able to toggle the ability while mounted/on the air for purposes like you described.

[@billabong5366]

There are a few flying mounts that aren't getting skyriding so you could use one of those the jellyfish from ZM are one of them

[@thegeko5476]

This vid is the first look I've had at the new zone and I'm happy to see there's no overly complex verticality. Just nice but easily travesible terrain, easy to recognize and remember

[@williamsmith169]

It would be nice to be able to choose between the two flightstyles on a mount by mount basis. IE Mount 1 is always skyriding, Mount 2 is always traditional flight. I hate the idea that switching between flight modes is going to add a few extra seconds each time I want to switch, which I do A LOT.

[@GeorgePrountz]

...or make it instant toggle and being able to change flying style while on air on the same mount. Its SO unnecessary having to land and cast 5 seconds.

[@Stncold223]

5 second cast is ridiculous. Especially for druids and dracthyr. I have a feeling it's gonna be one of those things they dig their heels in for no particular reason then change it to instant later in the xpack or midnight prepatch.

[@mrfrupo]

the majority of everyone is just going to pick one style and never touch that button. I don't really see why people are trying to switch between the two every couple of seconds.... You're lucky they didn't make it an npc in capitol cities, which is what I assumed it would be.

[@heroicxidiot]

@@mrfrupo People who try to min max their movement.

[@DrobusMaximus]

​@@heroicxidiot There are 2 flying systems, both of them have pros and cons. You can choose which one you'll use, and you accept those pros and cons. Having all the pros and none of the cons would be very boring. A 5 second cast is very generous, I also assumed it would be an NPC in a city.

[@LittleMissSmallPaw]

@@DrobusMaximus A 5 second cast is not very generous. Right now it is a 0 second cast. I got two mounts on my bar so I can immidiately switch to the other flying mode. I use that all the time, and now they take that away from me.

[@DrobusMaximus]

@@LittleMissSmallPaw Yes, which is how it should be. There are 2 systems, each of them with pros and cons. Take your pick. There is absolutely no reason why you should be switching constantly.

[@JayTheCharmerOG]

I don’t like the fact that you don’t have access to both dynamic and afk flight as a toggle for certain mounts. I use both quite frequently to the point where it’s such a hassle to cast 5 seconds to switch. Big L for me.

[@rawcoustic1718]

Same

[@grimdagoblinmain]

I think it makes sense because you could just fly high and then switch and then get max speed and that does not seem like that's their intention.

[@JayTheCharmerOG]

@@grimdagoblinmain I don’t know why I expected to be able to open my collections, pick a mount, toggle dynamic flight ON/OFF. Just make it so you’re grounded or unmounted when choosing to keep the gameplay in order. Just my thought!

[@Aztonio]

​@@JayTheCharmerOG Such level of customization would be overkill and a button was expectable, with a minimal cast it would be way less of a burden. But you're right, imagine we just wanna hover a few meter to look at some piece art crafted with love by the devs... This little manoeuver is gonna cost us 10 whole seconds at least, even if we change your mind! Although I'm starting to understand his point, and Blizzard's. It's true, especially with enhanced static flight, that it's very practical to just switch system to easily counterbalance the only drawback of dynamic flight, that is wasting all your stamina and not being able to return to the sky right away. Right now if we're close to some peak, we just have to switch, fly up there, and jump with our dynamic mount to get back on track... that sounds quite counter intuitive as a gameplay mechanic to be so easy to bypass because of the conflict with another. But on another hand, in practice... We still feel quite well the drawback of having to switch mount and slowly fly black up (if only we're not on a plain!), until we're ready to go again (maybe it even takes the time you had to wait to get the two action points needed... I even forgot about the skill to give them back up instantly ! So it's up to the player what they wanna do during that time) So no, I still pretty much find the current system to be the ideal. I guess Blizzard still want us to "try" it... Back to testing time, baby!

[@maxpowers4436]

I've watch the community in real time go from get rid of dragon riding to getting normal flying again then every second moving the goalposts when they get something, insufferable

For lvl 10 dragon ride it kinda makes sense tbh since you'd be able to do nokhud offensive while leveling :p

[@lilywong9672]

Yeah but they do have flight masters in that dungeon that take you to bosses if you don't want to dragonride.

[@TinySnowkitty]

Not really, because of the reason first comment gives. You don't need it for Nokhud.

[@Kritigri]

As a Druid, I kinda wish there was a way for me to have my Flight Form remain static while the rest are Skyriding, without a 5 second toggle. I've always loved my Flight Form for its instant convenience, and I lose some of that when Skyriding is applied to all mounts at once, as opposed to now, where I use it as my quick change to static flying.

[@ranchmang]

This sounds stupid.

[@rd9102]

Amazing job the animation team did to get all this work done. Good to see the changes, very welcome.

[@gnockgnock6965]

The fact that it's at lvl20 means that unsubbed players can fly and use Dragonriding aka "Skyriding"

[@cleversonsutil4495]

Exactly! It was a correct decision

[@ShovelyJoe1]

Actually a really smart decision. People try for free, if one of the reasons they like the game is SR, they sub.

[@mtthw1597]

ye but also kinda sucks for people who grinded rare ground mounts that will be useful for like 1h of gameplay throught 10-20lvl and i guess instance or two xd

[@billabong5366]

​@mtthw1597 that was already the case

[@mtthw1597]

@@billabong5366 I mean previous to dragonflight they allowed flying pretty late into a new expantion and if now every exp after that will unlock flying at the start thats makes ground mounts pretty mutch ussleless like i kinda feel bad for this people who for example spend hours of grinding lets say stratholme for deathcharger just for him to now be just at the best scenario cool mount to afk on

[@litebkt]

I hope that there will be some old flying mounts that stay static. There are times when I need the slower speed and really don’t want to wait 5 seconds.

[@edakraz241]

I would love if we can have a static mount separated from skyriding. I use both constantly and having to cast the 5 sec change seems unnecessary.

[@Muhan1969]

I would love to have 1 specific mount that would have tbc flight style, some times I miss the landing spot or looking for stuff like cave entrances etc

[@saqhorov]

they've confirmed there's going to be a few mounts that are static only, like the pandaria discs I think

[@edakraz241]

@@saqhorov that's great news. Thanks for your reply

[@LittleMissSmallPaw]

Yes. They really need to get rid of the 5 second cast. Alternatively let me assign a mode to a specific mount.

[@Aztonio]

@@saqhorov It's true those disks feel fucking old, just look at that fog effect that's just a static animation turning around like it sticks to the mount. It would be so epic to have it turned into an actual fog effect. :/ On the other hand, we have other disks like mage domain mount and from hearthstone event... I still think there's no reason not to have them skyriding like other things. It's would be like the most basic work, adding a few rotating effects, like on a skateboard.

[@omfgmusic97]

I wish there was a toggle to have specific mounts be dedicated to static flying AND you have other mounts with sky riding. For example, there's times when i am questing around or looking for nodes when I want static flying, but if I'm going long distances, I want sky riding right after. Having to do a full channel ability in order to swap instead of having some kind of mount menu toggle for specific mounts is gonna feel like a bit of a bummer :( It's nice to have both at your disposal for different purposes.

[@TFAric]

Switch flight style should be insta cast like a toggle, 5 sec is really bad.

[@maxpowers4436]

Nah

[@JuanAlvarez-sf9sn]

@@maxpowers4436 It is, if you wanna fly smalls distances when questing, regular flying is more efficient. I hope not ALL flying mounts are defaulted to skyriding.

[@Deatheragenator]

Honestly, it should be only changeable in cap cities. #NotStrictEnough

[@TFAric]

@@JuanAlvarez-sf9sn All flying mounts will be either normal or dragon flying, if you change one you change all of them.

[@TFAric]

@@Deatheragenator Why? Better then just remove dragon flying from all normal mounts and then use the mount that fit for the situation.

[@pairaka984]

I can't wait to use Taregosa's Rest transform to actually be a dragon with the skyriding ability.

[@simondemoulin5815]

And I do hope it become available without having the staff equiped. ... Bonus point if you can have this "mount" on other non-magic character.

[@Scuuurbs]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@simondemoulin5815 i just came back to wow this year and i havent done it yet, but i watched a video showing a questline in dragonflight that gives you the mount to use without equipping the staff.

[@RodjeSan]

​​@@simondemoulin5815I believe in dragonflight they added a quest that gives you an actual mount version of it if you have the staff

[@Peshyy]

@@simondemoulin5815 They added a questline in 10.1.5 where you do a quest and you get the mount as an actual mount in your mount collection - no staff equipment requirement. The only requirement is that you have the staff unlocked on that character.

[@Arinbjorn1989]

It already is, you just need to do the DF quest line on the character that unlocked the staff.​@@simondemoulin5815

[@MeyZiK]

Huge W. But just gives us 1000% speed :)

[@Kygiann]

Too bad that we have to cast a 5-second spell every time we want to change flight mode. Dynamic flight is cool for long distances, but static flight is more useful for world quests or travelling around capitals/cities. To sum up, I fly to a WQ with dynamic flight, then land, cast a 5 sec spell, cast a static mount, do my WQ, cast a 5 sec spell and cast a dynamic mount.... It would be more efficient to put an option on the mounts so that they remain static or not, whatever flight mode you're in, dynamic or static.

[@RaimaNd]

I hope the swift spectral tiger also has the new flying.

[@paulo.campoy]

What transmog set you used on your dwarf hunter char? Please may you link here? Regards!

[@JojoSherrill]

"NIMBUS!!!!" Anyone know if Zen flight is getting an update? Been slow af since OG MoP

[@MrGM]

It hasn’t yet

[@assboi]

It mostly likely wouldn't. Two reasons - firstly it's an instant cast second, blizzard forgot monks exist back in Legion

[@LordSadCat]

Because it's not real flying. It's like slowfall+

[@isilcamaksoy]

hi , which addon or setting is that enemy's bar? It's bigger than default.

[@Retnuh1974]

What about the dracthyr, can they fly normally (not skyriding)?

[@Prismatic_Rain]

What happens if you have skyriding enabled, but mount one of the few flying mounts that doesn't work with skyriding? Do you get to normal fly then, or are you stuck on the ground? Haven't seen anyone confirm how this works yet.

[@sikhandtakerakhuvar9678]

Good point! Also, would trying that affect the next mount you cast?

[@Azrael79a]

Honestly the style of horse skyriding is exactly what I said they should do like back when Dragonflight came out lol.

[@gleadr6869]

Love the mount changes / updates! Really enjoy both types of flying so hope they never take either away.

[@AllaMenethil]

I absolutely love these changes! I was talking to a friend a couple of weeks ago about this saying how cool would it be to have like a button to switch between normal and dragonriding for all the mounts. And now this. :D Me happy!

[@JoPOW7]

Great video. Anyone know if Evokers get regular flight as well with soar? With Druids getting sky riding added to their flight form it seems logical.

[@sikhandtakerakhuvar9678]

If they do, I hope it doesn't remove glide, as that is nice to have in fights with fall damage, and dungeons / raids where you might want to skip a long stairway by leaping over.

[@CoreyFisher2045]

They do

[@sikhandtakerakhuvar9678]

@@CoreyFisher2045 Maybe damn -- I hope it doesn't mean they lose glide. I've been using that to measure heights of mountains, as well as not dying when find self unexpectedly falling. The Gadgetzan teleporter sometimes deposits you fatally high; some fights toss you up for fall damage, or over a cliff.

[@GeorgePrountz]

WHY 5 seconds cast? Could be instant.

[@NerdletteGaming]

The flight speed decrease from old dragonriding is horribly noticeable! Ty for clarifying that I wasn't going crazy feeling like I was moving like a slug

[@Askfornate]

SUBBED. How did I miss this for the past year!?!?!

[@oyhchris]

Switch Flightstyle 5 sec cast? Why... Just make it instant.

[@joebirkbeck8763]

pvp purposes probably

[@heroicxidiot]

@@joebirkbeck8763 Yup. PVP players will find anything to use/exploit to get an advantage in pvp

[@pecoliky8793]

and let people exploit it? how often are you going to change it anyway?

[@maxpowers4436]

Lmao people like you are insufferable

[@nobodyImportantl0l0l]

@@pecoliky8793 exploit what? it is a flying mount?

[@charlesmatthews1737]

Love the new direction blizzard are going with flying, especially ditching the grindy pathfinding achievements! Amazing Video!

[@honestusfitness]

Mr GM. Any information to share on crafting?

[@xabaya3294]

will the stated flight speeds be changed by the pally riding speed buff ?

[@Cryptonymicus]

Search and rescue teams don't fly at Mach 1 and neither do I when I'm looking for an npc, locations, landmarks, nodes, etc.

[@norsk2910]

What mounts can't do skyriding?

[@JamesStreetStation]

Did Blizz learn a lesson on what "fun factor" means? Nice!!! I've always HATED the Pathfinder stuff (though I did it because I wanted the advantages of flying on my alts), so these changes are extremely welcome!

[@brentengels8947]

Am I correct in understanding that trial accounts will also be able to "skyride" now. Because that may entice some of my friends to give wow a try.

[@Aztonio]

It is. In fact... already the case. On MoP remix ! :D Join us being overpowered thanks to our amazing scaling that allows us to become actually overpowered and easily farm Bronze, all transmogs and 3/4 mounts even with no raid and 3/7 zones! :D

[@brentengels8947]

@@Aztonio that's pretty cool. They're not interested in Remix, but with it already being the case there, you are right that it will probably mean it'll be the case in retail too! :D

[@patnoneya4098]

With the skyriding or dragonriding or whatever you call it in War within do you still slow fall to the ground if you run out of vigor? That is the only point I hated in dragon isles. I could see slowing down to like 80% speed until a vigor recharges but having to land is a bit much.

[@blakeb8959]

Maybe silly question ultimately, but any chance we get flight changes to MOP Remix before it ends?

[@sikhandtakerakhuvar9678]

If Druids get skyriding for flight form, do Dracthyr get static flying as an option?

[@Boneslark]

Btw can druids cancel and enter flying form mid air with skydiving on ?

[@Boneslark]

Whats that armor on dwarf hunter at 5:44 ? I can't recognize , is it new ?

[@nerdrooted]

Arathi questing gear iirc.

[@MrShazzizle]

so flying won't be locked behind Pathfinder?

[@RefugeeKLicious]

Wish we could get the slower mount speeds as options as well. Worked great for RP purposes and I miss it.

[@sulefaroth]

Do Dracthyr have static flight?

[@catrinastars]

Which mounts can’t sky ride?

[@Quietsatori]

Does whirling surge still knock people off mounts?

[@JuanCampos-tc3sh]

Can you fly in the battle of azurath zones or do you still need to get the achievements

[@iansabrewolfe]

Okay, but can druids swap from dynamic to static flying while falling to switch midair?

[@luizfbrcREACTS]

I think the reduction in speed for skyriding has to do with the size of the zones, so you dont cruze everything in a blink of a eye.

[@ic3t3ap3ach]

700 is ultra slow. seeing now at remix. takes years to go to hof or tot from vally

[@2freeIvX]

Except it doesn't feel good and that allong should be a reason not to have different speed. Make no sense for physic based system. Meanwhile in gw2 they can but momentum as much as they want until it reach thousands if you have the skills. Funny how blizzard always copy but nerf the fun no matter they do.

[@luizfbrcREACTS]

@@ic3t3ap3ach Slow? OMG! we spent 15y+ flying at 310 and now you''re complaining 700+ is slow? HAHAHAHAHAHA spoiled much?

[@thickynugnug]

MrGM: "Flying going up to 420%" Me: "Is he gonna say it? C'mon, say it..." MrGM: "Blaze it" 😏😏😏

[@LemurFrenzy212]

I can't wait for this change. Hopefully people that aren't keen on the whole skyriding feature will be happy to just get a regular speed boost instead, but allowing people that prefer skyriding to benefit too. I honestly can't wait, I've loved using my drakes but I have sorely missed my other babies, they have been neglected!

[@ruicorreia6373]

Hot take: I have no problem with the speed outside of the Isles being 1/3 because the zone size outside of the Isles is also 1/3

[@Rediottic]

Why haven’t they made a mount equipment for regular ground mounts to fly… I think all the models are already used in other flying mounts

[@Aztonio]

Flying scorpio lol. But yeah, like horses, why not after all.

[@sikhandtakerakhuvar9678]

Anti-grav horseshoes!

[@Shiirow]

I love that the team was so hard on the I hate flying kick because it "ruins the game" "makes the world feel small" "trivializes content" but are all in with a version of flying that is essentially ten fold worse. It makes me think, maybe they were just bullshitting like so many wow players who were anti flying.

[@zerofucs4461]

No changes to zen flight??

[@thomasbienaime4542]

Can't wait to see how Mirmiron's head is skyriding

[@WadeAllen001]

Is max flight speed in The War Within zones the same as the Dragon Isles, or the same as the rest of the world? Also this seems like honestly a nerf to druids. Having the option to use druid flight form for instant cast static flight/hovering while also being able to use dragonriding mounts for fast flight was really nice. Now with this toggle button it's affecting everything all at once, which means that using these things the way I have been will require a 5 second cast between every use, which completely ruins the whole benefit of instant cast flight form. I really wish they would enable a way to toggle static flight or dynamic flight on a mount-by-mount basis (or at least a separate toggle for mounts and for flight form), rather than it being across the board.

[@Velshin1986]

You are complaining because of 5 secs delay? Are you fucking kidding me? People like you is the reason why Blizzard are obssesed of balancing the game to the point they diminish the fun for the sake of balancing. Stop fucking nitpicking seriously.

[@SirenRyan]

Agreed. I love having a static and a Dragonriding mount on my hot bar because I prefer dynamic flight for most instances but it’s nice to be able to use static flight to go super short distances without spending vigor

[@WadeAllen001]

@@SirenRyan Yeah, and static druid flight form is amazing for hovering above the ground to collect quest items without having to fight nearby enemies. This toggle will just slow down a ton of the moment-to-moment gameplay.

[@Aztonio]

Yeah hum, still, calm down on complaining on what druid will still have WAY more convenient than for all other peasant classes in the game. We saw you...

[@Dahkeus3]

Does this mean evoker flying and druid flight form are functionally the same?

[@druidicleonnnjj]

Evoker already has dragonflight with their soar ability but yes

[@WadeAllen001]

Is evoker flight form instant cast?

[@MrGM]

I actually forgot to mention Dracthyr (sorry) but they will also have static flying in Pre-Patch

[@Wowzombie15]

Amazing video, glad to see changes to both static flight and skyriding, switching between flight styles will be a great utility coming forward, I hope they make changes in the dragon isles leveling experience to enable other mounts to skyride at level 10 with evokers or new players since it only mounts Dragonriding mounts

[@Rearnold1987]

Hell yeah Druids FINALLY!!

[@nailkitty]

i will be adding that switch button to my action bar as i use both styles pending on the situation.

[@Tamriella]

Do I understand this correctly? They reduce the flight speed when dragonriding from 830% to 705%? Why? Its perfect now 🧐 9:13 ah ok, I was to quick - then I try to believe you! 🤞😆

[@lily_evildm2317]

I wish I could decide which mounts use which type of flight. as a druid main it was amazing to swap to flight form mid flight and just recover vigor. Sad to lose this ability

[@damg91195]

Will Dracthyr get static flight?

[@TiagoCastro-cc8qe]

Wait... Will ground mounts be able to skyride?

[@alexandrei8856]

Amazing video!! Thanks for the info

[@QuantaSolace]

I don't understand the point in keeping static flying for current content locked behind a requirement?

[@Aztonio]

It's a little tradition and about not having all the easy ways right away (when you discover a new expansion, it's even cool to just enjoy traveling the world by feet anyway). Although that extra 5s cast is already putting a stop to convenient usage of it. So they're basically aiming at bothering exactly the people who will crave to be permanently in no dizzy flying but won't be able to lol.

[@QuantaSolace]

@@Aztonio Having Skyflight available breaks that tradition anyways. The difference is you can’t over in one spot or put it on autopilot to walk away for a break. The idea to lock flying before was to keep players from completing quests at a fast pace, and to get them to appreciate the scenery. DF changed that by giving players dynamic flight at the start of the expansion. It’s also faster than static flying if you can stay in the air. To me, it’s illogical to keep static flying locked at the start of an expansion because of dynamic flying.

[@Labneh9102]

the one problem i have with the switching being 5 seconds is that if I ever ran out of vigor, I'd swap to a normal flying mount until the vigor came back. So it's going to be a lot more arduous and annoying to do that and let the charges of vigor come back. Honestly, they should probably just get rid of vigor for anything that's not a race

[@delirious15]

Are there new Skyriding races in the new zones?

[@MrGM]

Yes!

[@protocol3717]

you sir LOVE your huntards

[@passion4drawing289]

What about druid flight form?

[@fatchickyoumatchedwith8558]

6:50 dummy

[@Blackbirddc]

I'm super curious what the flying discs will look like

[@allianceorc]

ok so the cradle flying speed made me laugh my question is what about the monk flight meditation ability is that affected

[@duanefalk219]

Not happy about 5 sec switch time. Right now I can mount a non-dynamic mount when I want to in 1.5. Now since all flying mounts will be governed by the switch it will take 5 sec to get on one (since still use dynamic for usual getting around). Reminds me the mount equipment nerf- sounds good but some hidden penalties

[@Aztonio]

Nope, 6.5/10 uh I mean 6.5s to switch... And overall, at least 13s to make a full rotation, added to the actual pause we'll take for whatever reason like admiring some beautiful piece of art crafted with love by the devs... Yeah, it seems even less worth the trouble. Too bad for them.

[@TE-eq1dc]

Thanks for the info!! I have 1003 mounts and I’m way too lazy to manually count how many of them are flying or not. Now I know it’s basically half if 500 mounts are tagged for sky riding

[@ag6concepts]

is that basically every single mount in the game? 🫣 i’m so curious how long you’ve been playing for, i didn’t even know there’s that many mounts!! do you have a favorite? either way, cheers to the dedication! :)

[@MichZilla90]

@@ag6concepts yeah that’s almost every single mount, I think he would only be missing 20 max, many are impossible to get now

[@diyth]

@@MichZilla90until they put them in the trading post or store

[@jorleejack]

@@diythI highly doubt they put something like the Grove Warden in the trading post. They’ve been insistent on not bringing back something like the Mage Tower or Challenge Mode appearances so I’m pretty certain Grove Warden and other mounts like it are gone for good.

[@TE-eq1dc]

@@ag6concepts it’s pretty close to being every PVE mount in the game surprisingly enough I only have 2 or 3 PVP mounts. Been playing since 2008. The only mounts that can “drop” that I don’t have are the jailers mount the fyrrak owl and the archeology ultramarine battle tank. Favorite mount is the heavenly onyx cloud serpent

[@brandonlewis3379]

As a druid main flight form dynamic flying is going to be so much fun lol.

[@Saimeren]

So they're still capping dragonriding in the new expansion's zones? You'd think they'd only do this for the old zones that are smaller, not any new ones they make. Why only have it be fast in the dragon isles and slow in every new zone they make?

[@CBreezyy01]

I’m kind of shocked they didn’t increase the speed of ground mounts to at least 150

[@2freeIvX]

Need dynamic ground mount

[@Aztonio]

@@2freeIvX Exactly, we desperately need for some proper acceleration. (but Aquariding first ;) ) Like, visually, 100% already looks ugly and ridiculous on many mounts. Just look at the poor kodos bois who are barely looking natural at 60%, they look like tiny mices! It would just be hideous at 150%. Ground mount has always been flawed like that... And I don't even have any idea how to really make them worth it. I just want fast speed... because it equals to a gigantic and wonderful world. :D Like, if you hope Quel Thalas in Midnight to simply be the BC version remade like in BfA, sincerly, NO. It's probably because you could never fly over it and experience how tiny it is. Technically, it's finally the perfect time time to start... the world rewamp. (we need a 10-20 years project, for the better!)

[@flipthetyphoon3325]

@@2freeIvX So faster on roads but slower off road and more stamina than flying mounts?

[@Wyrmshield]

I skipped dragonflight but came back for mop remix, so this has been my first experience with skyriding. I basically use it in place of flight paths for long distance travel but I still like using my static flying mounts along side skyriding for short range precision movement like if a mob is just a bit too far out of range or climbing up a cliff or wall. Skyriding for those things feels like complete overkill because you cant use the movement abilities unless you do the big flap which makes you way too high up most of the time and then you gotta wrangle with the controls to try and actually land where you want. Using the two together feels really good, so im bummed to see that you have to use a toggle to change everything from one or the other, and that you cant even use static in TWW until pathfinder but skyriding is unlocked at the start. Theyre even buffing the static move speed which makes me want to use both even more!

[@quatron---]

I dont like the way we switch between static flight and dragonriding. Now all i have to do is click on a different mount and thats the kind of flying im using. Now i have to wait a additional 5 seconds which adds a LOT of hassle and lost time. Especially for people who switch a lot between the kind of flying they use. There is absolutely no valid reason why that toggle cant be instant.

[@revan8795]

Like that the serpent mounts have new animations and they are good.

[@MaxJedermann]

Why does it have to be a casttime even 5 seconds just to switch + mounting ist like 8 seconds before i can move, this hole interaction could be made in an instant.

[@chaoshunting5659]

good changes all around!

[@courtjezter4]

Kind of wish we could just pick or choose the mounts that skyride or static ride, so we don't have to do the 5 second thing every time we just want to do a quick jaunt nearby. Also, I guess it's safe to assume we aren't getting flying races in TWW? I haven't seen any mention of that anywhere yet, so I'm guessing no.

[@WillDoran-k6v]

i mean i’d be surprised if they get rid of races completely; they’re probably just not going to be as emphasized as in df

[@Aztonio]

Why wouldn't they create races for WW when they're already creating races for each expansion ? (BTW it's not Total War Warhammer, also, we rather use BC)

[@Elysium.Dreams]

I wish we could assign flight style per mount. For instance I could have some mounts on my action bar that are old style, and some that use dragonriding.. the switching seems too clunky, I'm ok with it, but would like to also be able to assign a few mounts to just be traditional for when I need to AFK above mobs and players etc.

[@SicariusGaming87]

Im loving the changes for static flight coming in TWW, but I have a bone to pick with the button that switches between static and dynamic. IMO, there is no reason for it to have a 5s cast time. It should be instant. I dont want to have to dismount every time I want to swap between the two.

[@alexanderball9080]

I can’t wait for sky riding on all my dragon mounts. Specifically Obsidian Worldbreaker and Steamscale Incinerator.

[@mykaelnyx8821]

Honestly in my opinion they can keep the sky riding thing because I really do like the faster flying, but I also would like to be able to stop and hover like I could with normal flight

[@Saimeren]

Oh god.. They baked in the "hovering" effect into aerial halt? That sucks man.. I don't take that point in the tree. I hate hitting the stop button and then not being able to land for several seconds. It's a REALLY annoying point that I was hoping they'd do away with.