Major Service and Big Bills for the Jaguar F-Type | Is A Main Dealer More Expensive than in Indie?!

[@peterbates]

Hi, good video, I had quite an interesting experience using both a main dealer and an indy one. Full service history of 24k over 4 years. Engine went kaput. Towed to main dealer, new engine required, out of warranty, even with a warranty extension, some exclusions, ie oil and general maintenance. £20k for a rebuild from main dealer. Decided to have a second opinion from an indy, had it towed to the garage. Determined that the oil sensor was not working, so didn't indicate any oil loss and an oil leak from the sensor seal. Indy dealer dealt with JLR directly. Long Engine replacement. FOC and 24 month extended warranty. Plus a stamp for servicing on the JLR online data base. Subsequent services at Indy now. Indy chap is a bit more passionate about the motors than the Main Dealer/Stealer. All in all, its a bit of a lottery . Prices are very similar TBH on the servicing quotes.

[@MrGB_UK]

Holy moly. That sounds horrific! Sorry to hear it! Do you mind me asking the damage at the independent garage?

[@ChrisFEJackson]

For similar pricing, I would go to the JLR dealer, but as you say, local Jag specialists are enthusiastic and love having the F-Types in. My local Jag guy looks after me very well and his garage has a lot of old Jags being worked on too. Family business with old friends working there, it's a nice environment. Recent engine & diff oil change @40K + MOT cost me £300. Oh plus I needed a new front tyre!

[@peterbates]

As I said, the indy firm had it replaced for free after JLR agreed it was their responsibility, some goodwill, a Full Dealer Service History and a relatively low mileage helped. No threats, just a lot of tenacity, and I guess the confidence of many years of experience dealing with them.

[@kevinpower5880]

I found a similar situation with my BMWs. The local independent are good and use OEM parts. However they are not much cheaper as a result and the level of personal service is not up to my main dealer. I find the main dealer good for servicing and repairs (not the cheapest but they maintain the integrity of the car). They keep me informed of progress on the work and even drop me home and pick me up if a loan car is unavailable. The sales department however, are no where near as good.

[@Sigma.6]

What surveys say is nonsense. I pay for competency of work. I've not always stuck to the BMW main dealer. They didn't even do the basics like greasing the bonnet catch during a service. The independent place I went to did a much better job. 😊

[@STRENGTH444]

Surprised how pricey the service was from an Independent. I had the same service in 2022 and it was £650 main dealer or £500 from an independent for 96k miles. I now work for a UK franchise(part time on weekends) and after having a few problems with my engine I am completely against taking it to the dealer because behind the scenes they dont really care, the service advisors will show they care but the technicians not so much unless they are really experienced. I think it varies from dealer to dealer, some are better and your local Jag sounds great for customer service. I'm now in the mindset that i will only go to an independent I trust (In this case E&E services in MK)

[@fragoutrambo6381]

That's actually not bad for a dealership service. considering this was mostly preventative maintenance, I wouldn't expect much labor to be billed. In fact the majority of the items you named can be done yourself with a few tools and a suitable work space. I'm personally worry about major services like timing, powertrain, and exhaust system, especially that catalytic converter.

[@Natak222]

Really enjoy how passionate and involved you are with your car. I’m not a fan of the jag myself but it’s still really enjoyable to watch. Makes me wish i was the same way with my car 😂. Great videos regardless mate

[@dwaynechambers8607]

I don’t think the SC needs being removed to change the plugs. And if the other dealer quoted you for that. That would explain the higher price

[@ftyper]

Correct. SC does not need to be removed. It’s a pain to get to the plugs but totally doable with only needing to remove the two plastic covers

[@mileswilliams1585]

My local Jag dealer is awwwwwful (Leeds) so considering a specialist for some work but will probably keep servicing to main dealers... just one further away

[@kiahughesy]

You like telling everyone how Expensive the Jag is to own... I've found the opposite. Mine has been a pure joy

[@Bringbackthesixties]

My 3.0s F Type with 56,000 and FMDSH was nothing but aggro. Kept it for 14 months and after spending 7k on repairing it including both banks of injectors and numerous other issues was glad to see the back of it. Gone back to Mercedes which is a pleasure. Luck of the draw with any car.

[@andrewnevermind4902]

So he should lie because yours was ok? What do you want him to do?

[@Jeff-kw8jj]

My 2014 V8s purchase new has had a new engine at 23000 installed period had the drivers seat Electronics failed to requiring a replacement of the entire electrical system that controls the seat. The GPS system failed needing a complete replacement of the GPS unit stereo and other equipment that uses the CPU. The convertible top broke twice requiring replacement of motors.... the rear spoilers cease to work and required a new motor module.. rotors and brakes needed to be replaced..... standard wear item but this actually was sooner than one would expect... this doesn't include the injector replacement, transmission fluid replacement.. right now the car's been in the shop for over a month with the convertible top not moving at all.... and so far they don't seem to have a revolution as to what the problem is or how to correct what is happening... they proposed to replace the entire folding top unit including Motors wiring harnesses and hall effect switches to the tune of 32,000 which I have declined at this time... other than this love the car😮

[@Steviegtr52]

Well after spending £900 on a major Desmo service on my 2017 Ducati Multistrada, I am not looking forward to having my 2017 Ftype R convertible done. At 20,460 miles. It was serviced 2 years ago at 19,800 miles, so hardly used & kept in a heated garage all it's life. Never even been driven in the rain. If your figures are anything to go by then I am in for another shock. Thanks for posting. Steve.

[@MrGB_UK]

Thanks for a great comment Steve & I hope that the upcoming service is kind to you

[@dougfoulds6439]

I think that price from a main dealer was very good for what they did. I got quoted £840 for a minor (oil & filters) for a 2007 911 C2. Needles to say I took it elsewhere.

[@tootalltodrive]

Interesting that the independent was that much higher. I always go main dealer, in warranty is a no brainer. Great video, very informative 👍

[@pmcbMadeInIreland]

Great vid, I learned a lot from it, as a potential F-type buyer. And I thought the cost of the major service was actually really reasonable, comparing against some of the bills I’ve had in the past for sub-70K services. Never thought I’d say that! Thank you, much appreciated. Subscribed.

[@caelenow2829]

I’m in the same boat. There’s horror stories from non owners online about Jag and Land Rover reliability and cost to maintain. I was expecting him to say $2000 for the service. $700 isn’t bad at all. A 100,000 mile service on my Ford Focus daily comes out to $500

[@Evanturar]

These are all very easy services you can do on your own. First: No need to remove the supercharger to change the plugs, coils, injectors, etc. Just not necessary. I pulled my own supercharger to replace all of the plastic coolant pipes and that was quite fun. I wonder if the UK dealer actually said the supercharger needed to come off for plugs..

[@fastrax1949]

I've just upgraded an F-Type and service history was a repeated question as I spoke to several Jaguar dealerships around the country. So one lesson which may sound obvious don't skip a service and despite the last Jaguar not rectifying an alerted problem ("not part of the serivce" for which I paid £900 +) stick to Jaguar. But I have a choice and will certainly not be going back to the one who must have seen the fault alert on the screen and did nothing about it. Thanks for the informative video.

[@MrGB_UK]

Good information and thanks for sharing. Happy driving and congrats on the car!

[@inuvik491]

My Jaguar was detailed and ceramic coated, I won’t let anyone clean it. Also having this same conundrum about my next service.

[@davidclarke7728]

Bought my F type last year after having an XKR previously for 8 years anyway , put my car into the main dealer to have the top hose replaced and other hoses at the same time , and by the way after they inspected the top hose was starting to seep coolant , the car has 30000 miles , also one mirror not folding and a battery test, also,turned out under the pressure test the coolant reservoir had a slight leak so was replaced . The bill £1561 , they charged £180 quid in that bill to fix the non folding mirror

[@johncopeland6383]

Great information! Good to know for when my F Type warranty runs out. I bought mine new so I have 5 years of free maintenance. Thanks for the content!

[@MrGB_UK]

That’s a good deal. Are you in the UK?

[@johncopeland6383]

No sir, in the U.S. Bought a 2023 F Type in May of last year. Ordered a 2022 but they delivered a 2023 at no extra charge.

[@davidtraylor4505]

Enjoy your passion for a great car (I'm on my second) dealer said they didn't do the ecu work as she knows I would have blown up 😅

[@fasthracing]

I had an 2012 XK. I always found Jags service prices to be OK considering what type of car it is.

[@mikebaker8667]

No confidence in my two local dealers i have tried, sorted a Jaguar specialist out, superior service at a lower cost. Service history using the specialist can be viewed on the Jaguar website..................

[@ZoltanF1LH]

My 84 month's service cost me £278 at Jag main dealer. 😁👍 My Mazda 6 major service used to cost me £800!!! So I am definitely happy with £770 for my 96th service next year, thanks for the info 😊

[@hujimwa]

Stealerships, frind was quite 1200 quid front disc and pads. Friend and a garage 300 quid, tbh servicing - id do it myself and keep receipts, I've had case where people can't do bolt or break clips and keep it quiet, not just stealership, thats was dealership and other garages. No one will take more care than yourself, only major works when you need a ramp and even then, I've had the engine out on the drive way.

[@andrewf7822]

I wouldn't go anywhere near a main dealer unless the car is still under warranty. Good video.

[@MrGB_UK]

Thanks for the comment. I suppose it depends on who your local main dealer is. I have only had good experience with mine, and the local independent garages are quite costly

[@andrewf7822]

@@MrGB_UK Fair one, they do seem decent value from what you said in the video.

[@md-detailing]

i really enjoy your Videos MRGB! Keep up the great work. i Love your love for Jaguar and Passion! :D

[@richardfreeman2242]

Having spoken to you at the 10 year anniversary, you were right, Dudley at Wraptor was great. He identified two issues the main Jag dealer caused (incorrectly fitted battery and they overfilled the engine oil!). I think my experience with main Jag dealers [in London] is so bad I'd rather travel to Dudley who was a JLR mater mechanic. 👍

[@wraptorcustoms]

Appreciate the recommendations guys. Thanks so much.

[@lamoroma]

JLR ?

[@MrGB_UK]

Glad to hear it worked out well and good to chat to you at the JBC. Dud sure is a great guy 👍🏻

[@jeffreyb.1657]

Have had no issues and no costs above a basic car. MightyVac lets me do an oil change for amazon costs.....about 50 dollars or less. Fluids and tires and spark plugs. I did do the metal coolant pipes, preventative and generic jaguar 3.0 and 5.0 engine issue.... The video title is false and misleading.

[@benniestander2725]

About to get a F Type SVR. 2019 model, 35000 km on the odo. Still got two years on the maintenance plan.

[@tkdguide]

Thanks for all the videos, it’s been very informative.

[@MrGB_UK]

Thanks for the support. I'm glad they were useful!

[@LoudModeOn]

Interesting, kinda what I reckoned on when I bought mine. Surprised the dealer is cheaper than an independent, I'm still plucking up the courage to book mine in to get checked out after purchasing it!

[@MrGB_UK]

Definitely worth getting it done! Early identification can save a lot in the long run. Congrats on the new purchase!

[@yoorukhunt947]

I’m looking at buying one early next year and I was expecting that service bill to be quite a bit more expensive. The only thing I cant really decide on is V6 or V8.

[@nickpurdy69]

I'm in the same exact boat. Obviously I want the V8 more than the V6 but price and maintenance wise I am thinking I should be more responsible with the V6 lol

[@spaceseti9694]

v6 s is the sweet spot

[@neverendingmods]

If warranty is up do the servicing yourself. Belts, fluids, and filters you can do. Also brakes are a 2 hr job in driveway. Everything else is a visual inspection. Why pay $ for visual inspections?

[@kevinsennitt8368]

I've taken out a service plan direct with Jaguar UK for mine, had service plans on a few cars and it lets you spread the cost. If you end up sellinng car then you can claim refund. I do have a decent jag independent specialist near me, but feel the f-type is still at age where its looks better having the main dealer stamp

[@TimW-m9w]

Interesting video. Is Harwoods in Brighton your Jaguar main dealer?

[@LagunaLeonhart]

Fantastic video mate. This is the sort of info I love to see. I already know about reviews and some of the more usual faults but day to day knowledge of the particulars is so valuable. I really want one of these but it'll be a few years before I hopefully have a chance. Yours looks amazing. I guessed the service would be about that much but I think it's pretty reasonable considering it's the major service and it's such an expensive car. I'm the same with washing. I'm shocked the software update isn't reversible though, are you sure? Secondly have you heard about obd port locks of some sort?

[@BillPetrovas]

Cheap service dude. Explain what was done and cost?

[@neverendingmods]

Once the warranty is up do the maintenance yourself. Belts, filters, brakes, fluid changes, sparkplugs and coolant. Everything else is simply visual inspections. If no warranty coverage then no reason to bend over @ the dealer's service center.

[@jase6370]

i thought that was pretty reasonable to be honest. Its not a fiesta , it's a 550hp v8 Sports car.

[@laro1002]

I was quoted £700 for a Jag XE 2.0D R-sport at the main dealer for the same service interval. I was expecting £1,500 for your F-type. Interesting. Another reason to buy my F-type :-)

[@bravo20ghost27]

Another great video mate, thanks 👍🏽

[@MrGB_UK]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!

[@i.c.d.-videos1901]

A main dealer major service on my XF Sportbrake including discounts = £660. Totally agree about main dealer service history on the value of the vehicle + required to maintain the full Jaguar warranty. Quick fi....🤣

[@MrGB_UK]

It’s just not worth the impact to residual value in my opinion. Haha, I had to take that bit out but then thought it was too funny not to make light of it

[@Berley_1234]

oh no .... i have a 2017 F type S 26,800 miles and just had a coolant pipe leak taht was under the supercharger. like $1700 USD

[@raghuveer8137]

I thought you’d say $1.5-2k. $700 is pretty reasonable.

[@halloweenbloodfrost]

A lot cheaper than the states. My first ever service for my Ftype was 1200$ for oil, sludge and fuel treatment at 22k miles

[@steverinaldi890]

So easy to do yourself and you know it’s done right. Get an extractor and it takes 15 minutes.

[@MikeTimbers]

Wait until it breaks and the two nearest JLR dealers tells you they can't even look at it for six weeks! And it's your only car.

[@brianiswrong]

Maybe not jaguar, but some makers extend the cars warranty for a year when it's serviced at the main dealer.

[@MrGB_UK]

Not one I’ve heard of Jaguar doing, but it sure would be nice!

[@ChrisFEJackson]

Hi Grant, good video, I didn't think the supercharger needed to come off to replace spark plugs? I know it's not straight forward and there are looms that need to be moved to gain access. The 'Y' piece on coolant that is susceptible for leaking would require it's removal I believe. Was the brake fluid replaced along with the SC belt? for that that price and estimate? Good weather around the corner I believe so get the shammies out!

[@MrGB_UK]

Hi Chris, yes I’m getting that a lot 😆 I think I was fed some misinformation. The belt and brake fluid was done, yes. Weather is looking good this weekend so hopefully some fun in store for under the wheels!

[@ChrisFEJackson]

@@MrGB_UK All good buddy, the fact that you make these videos and other great guys do too, keeps the dream alive and we can surely, only benefit from your time and considered efforts. Cheers!

[@iaingraham4107]

Hells bells,i get a full service for my Celica for £180.

[@fasthracing]

Its not a V8 Jag. So whats your point?

[@spaceseti9694]

i dont think main dealer matters they are a rip off most importantly the service history is maintained.

[@paulforster2684]

I’ve found most times main dealer prices not bad

[@MrGB_UK]

Me too. They’re also flexible to a degree. It’s about the service received too, which for me is great

[@floridahummer]

who doesn't like rice crisppies,pops and bangs

[@BoSSLeVeLs]

Question! How can I see the code on my car now To make sure its not updated when mine goes in for service

[@steveclarke4766]

How do you know that have done all the oil changes?

[@shayanlucaskarimian6511]

Is that a camera you got inside back for the car? If so which one and where do you get the electricity from?

[@MrGB_UK]

That is the rear facing dash camera, yes. It's a Thinkware Q800. Powered from the front camera

[@Sigma.6]

Surveys mean nothing, they're only an opinion. I pay for competency of work, the main BMW dealer didn't even do basic stuff like greasing the bonnet and door catches. I got much better work done at an independent garage, and the cost being higher wouldn't bother me.

[@TIMSANDYSURF]

Whoa there just a minute …..who told you the supercharger had to come off to change the plugs? The plugs are NOT under the supercharger. Who ever it was is telling you lies. 🤬 Removing the supercharger is a major job usually undertaken to replace the common ‘leaking coolant y hose’.

[@MrGB_UK]

Interesting. Thanks for the clarification. Are the accessed from the sides?

[@TIMSANDYSURF]

@@MrGB_UK Hi, yes. Take off the engine cover and they’re behind the side panels. Not quite that simple though as there’s lots to move out of the way (the two supercharger coolant hoses, the vacuum pipe, the coil pack wiring harness and the coil packs) . If the supercharger had to come off everyone would change the damn coolant y hose as a matter of general maintenance.

[@neverendingmods]

That MAJOR service is basic maintenance with lots of visual checks. Like "visual inspection of coolant". Seriously?

[@ShanePleasance]

I get it. Subscribed.

[@ajfincham9711]

I never let them wash mine since they put swirls all over it !!!! I was livid

[@MrGB_UK]

I’d rather not run the risk! Especially as I’m a bit OCD with washing my cars! 😆

[@wolvoman1]

It would still have cost you £770 without the krispi krems, why do you try to create a friendship that isn't there?

[@sideshowbob32]

Nice sub

[@garymiller7218]

I am the same with washing the car and mine is only an xe rsport nobody touches it but me😂

[@MrGB_UK]

Best way to do it!

[@timeservices697]

Jaguar Hatfield have quoted me £878 for major service that’s discounted not sure that was spark plugs either, was your price including vat ?

[@paulforster2684]

Seems like they charge what they think you could afford my main dealer done major service re gassed and Mot £450

[@MrGB_UK]

Yes, my main dealer price was including VAT

[@timeservices697]

@@paulforster2684 thanks , time to shop around 👍

[@davidtraylor4505]

Worth looking at the website booking prices I picked exactly what I only wanted and came out cheaper than the dealer price but they have to honour it

[@mboyd3361]

Is that an omega on your wrist sir??

[@MrGB_UK]

Keen eye, but no. That’s a Submariner 126610LN 👍🏻

[@mboyd3361]

@@MrGB_UK very nice! I wear Breitling myself. I subbed to your channel as I am looking at an f type r in the near future. Great content in your videos. Keep up the great vids

[@MrGB_UK]

@@mboyd3361 very nice. Thanks for the support and good luck with the hunt!

[@leoderbyshire1076]

Given what that car is. Its a dam bargain owning it

[@larrysimon1]

Independent specialist is taking the Pee with those prices ...............its laughable. Every one seems to be trying to have you over on the price of parts and labour.

[@danwedderburn5550]

Huge repair costs & servicing costs come standard with all JLR products. They are all a piece of crap. If you must be stupid enough to own any one of them, make sure its only while its under manufacturers warranty & sell it with 6 months remaining.

[@2379030]

[@mygoogleemail2063]

Sounds like the independent called the dealer because they didn't know what they were getting into.