Star Trek Discovery Vs. Interstellar 2014 Plagiarism

[@ms22784]

Interstellar: A work of art Star Trek Discovery: Chat GPT

[@nikolaki]

Talk about slandering ChatGPT. It's only that way cos they fed it scripts he's touched. Except Fringe.

[@TrekCZ]

Star Trek Discovery not GPT, but symbolic reasoning rather, it just copies patterns without generating new content

[@nikolaki]

@@TrekCZ yes, but ChatGPT would do it better than the human writers.

[@shauncraigparkinson8165]

Completely exposed. Not one episode was original writing.

[@mrconroy4672]

Secret hideout and Alex kurtzman need to be ejected once the merger happens otherwise skydance admits they were never better than cbsparsmount.

[@SkinPeeleR]

And "strange new worlds" too. They copied the complete musical episode from "Buffy the vampire slayer".

[@shauncraigparkinson8165]

@@SkinPeeleR lazy, weak writing and creatives.

[@markdevlin150]

Well, not entirely. Characters still have to say they/them. Have a gay sex scene, and any other mandatory content. The only thing that similar is the concept of an artifact that can warp time and space. The last I checked Star Trek, the original series and Star Trek the next generation have had several episodes with a variety of concepts of bending time and warping space. So I don’t think this is anything new.

[@gustavgnoettgen]

​@@markdevlin150 Did you watch this video? It's more than just one concept.

[@iscariot666]

The writers have no shame.

[@MarxistKnight]

They don’t give a ****.

[@MrJacksspleen]

You misspelled "talent."

[@matthewcorcoran2891]

@@MrJacksspleenthat too.

[@HaiDude-yh8wv]

No integrity or morals either how did they get hired and not fired for this? I would say not getting sue or fired only begs the question why and how was this even allowed.

[@kri249]

​@@HaiDude-yh8wvParamount is one of Interstellars production companies. They probably used some BS excuse about being an homage or something. Still lazy writing though.

[@braveintofuture]

It's so sad seeing Interstellar being ripped off like that

[@Francois424]

They ripped A LOT more than Interstellar in STD... They ripped from the Wing Commander3 game (the with Mark Hamil) with the Tumbler Bomb (or w/e it was called) to detonate in a fault on a seismic weak planet (the Kilrathi Homeworld vs Klingon Homeword). Also the spinning drones around the starship from Ender's game, and many many others. Ah yes, the whole first half of the first season, they stole from some guy's indy game for 2-3 of their characters. Maybe GenZ won't notice these, but Millennials and older would. Such a shame that they do it, but given how poor anything they didnt steal from was, it's no surprise. STD could've been good... But clearly they didnt stick to the setting they were supposed to. It's like if I would tell you I'll make a movie set in the "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie, and gave the hero ship powerful paddlewheels and the hero crew had access to cellphones and GPSes... You'd be WTF as well, lol.

[@braveintofuture]

@Francois424 true, almost forgot about that indie game story

[@rusalkin]

It's even worse how interstellar ripped of / tried to be 2001

[@Terrakinetic]

I wonder if the actors not only knew they were plagiarizing Interstellar but watched the movie to copy the intonations and movements.

[@Bertiesghost]

Doubt it. Their egos would have overridden any sense of unoriginality. They probably thought they were making groundbreaking sci-fi.

[@DarthPerkins]

I'd say 'yes'. Intonation and movements are not usually in the script. Unless the Director was directing them to do this. Although the majority of actors would strongly object to this.

[@kevynhansyn2902]

​@@DarthPerkinsMoney talks, otherwise i would agree. Sure there are some actors and actress that would not bend the knee, but here.....all knees were bent and mouths wide open.

[@talkingmudcrab718]

Very sad for Star Trek. Once a very original, science fiction series full of novel interpretations of new, real world physics is reduced to hack writing about women with mental illness and the sci-fi is just ripped off someone else's work and tacked on.

[@skycryztals]

It's not even a very good ripoff either..

[@kri249]

I wonder how that indie game developers court case is going.

[@GrayMimikyu]

Maybe it's a homage

There's generic story beats that are hard to avoid then there's stealing things line for line.

[@steffenpanning2776]

and, from what I can see here, the actors butchered it. Never seen the show and videos like this make sure I never will

[@TheNinjaMarmot]

This feels like the writers sub contracted their jobs to AI and still collected a commission.

[@joaoc_PT]

AI could do much better if programed with no bias. But they won't do that because AI would show them they're wrong in forcing "views" in others.

[@iro6758]

@@joaoc_PT Exactly. The true "myth" is that they'd allow a true AI to exist in the first place because, by definition, that sentience would mean a loss of control.

[@andaroo79]

Star Trek discovery is absolute shite.

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

I hated it since episode one! I didn't feel the urge to watch the following episodes! 😝🤮

[@xaiano794]

What do you mean! A magic teleport drive powered by mushrooms that negates the point of having space ships at all is great!

[@matthewcorcoran2891]

@@tzeffsmainchannelsame here. I felt cheap and dirty after watching the first episode of Dico.

[@keoghanwhimsically2268]

They stole it. And made it boring.

[@talkingmudcrab718]

Boring? I was thinking more like "cringe" 😜

[@Relkond]

I'd say it's lame.

[@ranchoth]

“Whenever I hear the word ‘quantum’ I reach for the safety catch on my Remington.”* *(Typewriter)

[@logicplague]

Amen, that and dark matter/energy.

[@Brother_Jack]

Holy fucking shit. You're a genius. They ripped it off. The whole damned thing.

[@Pectabyte]

Star Trek: Discovery isn't Star Trek at all.

[@Bertiesghost]

More like a lame high school drama with starships.

[@Nattraks]

The writers probably thought this was a "Love letter" lol

[@neutchain7838]

@BehindThePringles rofl :D

[@unplugged123]

i hope Christopher Nolan sees this and sues the sh*t out of Kurtzman.

[@James_Bee]

Even the clips of interstellar were intense. Such a well directed film. And acted. The STD clips just left me unsatisfied and itchy...

[@mclovin7326]

Star trek discovery being called STD is so funny

[@kamakazed3747]

For the longest time, Trek had parasites leaching off it. Now it's a bigger parasite than all the rest combine

[@cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775]

It's actually possible that with AI writing, that STD was nothing but copy-pasta in the later seasons (especially with the writer's strike). It took components from various stories (including Interstellar), almost word for word. Then, you have one or two non-AI writers who go and try to filter, alter, and "screen out" too many things that are too familiar while it's still not being original in writing at all. It's beyond laziness. Paramount-no wonder it went bankrupt. Halo has been canceled, Section 31 is already written off, and the Academy series might be canceled before filming even starts. Skydance knows it's a complete waste.

[@giantfactory]

Didn’t they get in trouble for stealing ideas during the first season, something about a tardigrade?

[@malikjahim]

oh no! anyway [Deep Space Nine intro starts playing]

[@thenightowldude]

That's scandalous. So glad I noped out of this dumpster fire series half-way through S1.

[@Dmarcoot]

me too

[@MrXlee1967]

I did too. I was shocked to see it still going. A lot of the US aid to isre-lie must be going to woke media it seems

[@temparalflux914]

Kurtzman is never subtle with this kind of thing, look at Picard season 1 and how much of that was ripped straight form Mass Effect.

[@brightfaith8403]

Holy cow. I was cringing hard at how badly STD’s acting was. The only thing Discovery didn’t copy, I guess.

[@voltinator]

It's like a high school student who copies quotes from other published essays to make their own seem more sophisticated.

[@PhilRMcGregor]

Star Trek Discovery (STD) looks like a truly horrendous show.

[@AlastairCarey]

This brilliant compilation shows not only what Discovery copied, but, crucially, what they didn't or couldn't: compelling characters, quality dialog, and dramatic tension. From beginning to end, Discovery is a show that is skin deep.

[@illustriouschin]

Of course they ripped off the docking maneuver, they have no shame!

[@Daimo83]

Best part is they forgot they had a tractor beam

[@mbob4337]

@@Daimo83 I was thinking that. The station was small. No one thought of trying to slow its rotation with a tractor beam gradually.

[@Tallacus]

Ugh... If Disney was in charge of Star Trek they would have the decency to cancel Discovery sooner. Yes I just complimented Disney.

[@hardy83]

Disney owns Orville which is a far better show and hasn't done shit with it.

[@GeneralPadron]

😂, What!? With all the flops coming from Disney, yeah right...

[@TayoEXE]

​@@hardy83I can second Orville. Great show.

[@logicplague]

Tilly growing faster than the singularity.

[@usprulse]

you would think that a star ship with tech of the 32nd century would have tractor beam that is strong enough to stop the station from spinning :P or did the writers forge that star ships had that?

[@hivebrain]

In TNG they attempt to tractor a moon. That station should be easy.

[@ge2719]

they forgot they were writing for star trek.

[@kri249]

Or teleport onto it. Hell, a space station that sophisticated should be able to stabilise its own orbit. The one giveaway of lazy writing is that a story will intentionally forget its own rules to drive a story. Or in this case, plagiarise from another story without same those rules and is driven due to the lack of them. It's like the memes that show how some movies couldn't happen in a modern setting because of today's technology. STDs writers would plagiarise Home Alone and ignore that smart phones exist.

[@ge2719]

@@kri249 they even introduced personal teleporters. They just have to think of where they want to go and they teleport there. Then they promptly forgot about that because it's such god level tech that it ruins the writing, as you say.

[@mbob4337]

@@ge2719 Just like Transwarp beaming in 09. Magically gone.

[@tonyfabulous6775]

If I was captain of discovery: Lock on to that craft with tractor beams reverse slowly on impulse. Lt detmer and Nillsoon met me in my “ready” room for a debriefing. Saru you have the conn

[@Sal-T]

That's what I was thinking. "Why are they doing that? They have tractor beams!" Also: That thing wouldn't spin like that. Physics does not work that way. Have they not heard of "spin stabilization"?

[@terryroxburgh3276]

If I was captain of discovery: Initiate self destruct sequence! Although they did do that on a series level.

[@StarTrekDoor]

Instellar astronaut: "Dat-ah" Data: "It's pronounced 'Day-tah' One is my name, the other is not".

[@fakenorwegian4743]

I love how the women on the bridge in STD act like operating a starship is just like punching a button on a washing machine.

[@illustriouschin]

Yeah, kinda obliterates the tension when she just makes the ship do that by tapping the panel twice and then it's done.

[@Cartoonicus]

Honestly, with the technology that they have, how is it not? Like, you should be able to have the entire ship be controlled by AI at this point.

[@fakenorwegian4743]

@@Cartoonicus Then why would she have to push a button at all? Why isn't her brain linked into the ship's onboard computer and all she has to do think the maneuver? Why are they even on the ship? Couldn't the whole thing be done remotely...blah blah blah. Reasons.

[@ge2719]

@@Cartoonicus the problem is they still act like its some amazing thing that they figured out how to do. this should be standard emergency docking procedure. not some thing thats no ones ever done before that they have to figure out a plan for how to do it. the extra stupid thing is they have a tractor beam for exactly this sort of thing.

[@ziraprod6090]

@@Cartoonicus ai? hahahhaha

[@izi5150]

The Michael Burnham actress is always either whispering too much or suddenly speaking super fast like she’s got autism. That’s the type of acting you see on a Disney Channel show. Actors notes: Appear emotional… Whisper for no reason. Appear intelligent… Talk really fast.

[@rhyswong8976]

These "film makers" think people have forgotten Interstellar.

[@dr.nigelcool3771]

Even the STD music is a ripoff of Hans Zimmer

[@RonMar]

Omg! STD is absolutely pathetic! I hope Skydance finally gets rid of all of the remaining Kurtzman detritus.

[@bannedmann4469]

I hate that everyone is doing the solar black hole now since that satellite image came out. It’s cool, but I’m getting sick of it.

[@talkingmudcrab718]

Uh. Weird gripe, but OK.

[@greyarea6688]

You mean the deep space image of Sagittarius A? Funnily enough the scientific consultant on Interstellar helped shape how the black hole should look, when the images of Sagg A came through a few years later it confirmed what that scientist predicted.

[@TheRealNormanBates]

@@talkingmudcrab718 it's no different than how the "explosion ring" *Star Gate (1994)* and *Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country* was neat _then,_ but when _everyone_ does it (George Lucas), it gets pretty boring and even stupid. Good for Nolan for creating a trend, I guess.

[@BasedBidoof]

Interstellar was the first movie to accurately depict a black hole. They paid a bunch of mathematicians to figure out how to render it

[@TroySpace]

​@@BasedBidoofInterstellar was originally conceived by Kip Thorne, the world's present foremost physicist on black holes and wormholes.

[@superastral1]

Wait until you find out where Interestellar copied from

[@machman_I]

so tell us . . .

[@superastral1]

@@machman_I Superastral movies fulfilled

[@machman_I]

@@superastral1 Yes I see your point, however he seems to be comparing Hollywood remakes of European/Asian movies which is different to plagiarism and lazy writing.

[@superastral1]

@@machman_I Superastral serie is spanish actually. In 15:28 of Superastral movies fulfilled are most nolan's works and how they copy. Shot by shot side by side

[@genzigzag]

No original ideas remain in Hollywood

[@MONSTERDR451]

it is ALL DECODABLE

[@AquaTunes]

But could you handle and understand all Data you decoded? 🤣

[@allcommentsnocontent]

- This is an Homage to Interstellar - What`s an homage? - It`s when you press control C on your keyboard, and then control V - Oh

[@svsguru2000]

2:32 Tractor beam. TRACTOR BEAM! You have one, use it!

[@MajorGrin]

they kind of forgot they have tractor beams in this scene . instead they somehow entered into an "orbit" of the spinning station which is also flying sideways and somehow that's a stable orbit while they are sideways of the station (not even at the center of its rotation) and the station is too small to have any kind of gravity

[@Kannon.88]

3:12 more like 22 pounds per second, looks like she ate 2 of her season 1 selfs

[@marasmusine]

6:18 "The Library of Babel" by Jorge Luis Borges.

[@upgrayed5724]

When they can’t come up with any new ideas, they steal the title of a successful franchise, a plot from a video game called Tardigrade for season one and Interstellar for what ever season this was. No talent hacks that should make no money from this theft of ideas and IP.

[@biffbamboo]

It felt like that imitation Star Trek, Kurtzman garbage was cobbled together using bad A.I. And I don't think I'm wrong.

[@SprocketListLiveUK]

Interstellar is like a really old boring film with like no cultural impact. Like who’s heard of it anyway? Repurposing the story for Star Trek Discovery’s 20 fans is simply being on the right side of history. *sarcasm

[@999benhonda]

It's shocking...not just how many ideas, lines of dialog and scenes that discovery took from other shows/movies...but that discovery somehow did them all worse.

[@Sikanda.]

It's basically paraphrasing just enough to not get accused of cheating.

[@beholder9]

More and more I am also thinking that the ten C story line was just a rip off of the movie "Arrival".....

[@P4RC3V4L]

*sobs* Look what they've done to my boy!

[@AquaTunes]

The Black Hole 1979

[@raymxslappedyall1891]

Wow that is just completely blatant theft

[@Ohmanwhyyourfeelingshurt]

Dei makes things die

[@aguasanta]

Interestellar: Hard work and originality Star Trek Discovery: No shame

[@MarxistKnight]

Do you have the quantum, Data?

[@IanNCC1701]

Yo um, how in the hell did they not get sued for this shite?

[@P.Whitestrake]

Because it can be seen as a slippery slope. STD might plagiarised lots of things, but it's hard to prove the exact plagiarism. Unless... people from inside STD's production expose it with strong evidence.

[@machman_I]

To feed the demand for quantity, quality has suffered badly!

[@johnhoran9840]

Crying?? There's no crying in Starfleet!!!!!

[@starsiegeplayer]

A Fleet of their own.

[@machman_I]

only whispering

[@merion297]

Okay, key question: Is it from one episode, or you cut it up using several irrelevant episodes? (Which episode is it btw. I didn't see the series.) The same story structure is a plagiarism but every can use parts separated, distributed in a way different storyline without plagiarism.

[@NitpickingNerd]

Its mostly from season 4 . it was one storyline that was very similar to interstellar . And the last few episodes were a ripoff of the movie arrival

[@dcb_75]

Ah STD, stealing from better shows and movies but then showing why it is a failure of a show. I don't believe any of Discovery crew can tie their own shoelaces let alone run a starship, damn sure can't do any of this believably. STD is not alright, alright, alright.

[@grumpyed58]

OMG . I that you exposed Discovery for the crap that it is😊

[@petery6432]

All these clips are from season 4 & 5, right?

[@NitpickingNerd]

Yes mostly season 4

[@michaelhart2618]

Star Trek Plagiarism

[@LakotaLp]

Im amazed the Writers managed to actually WATCH Interstellar to copy everything, unlike Star trek >.>

[@owenjenkinsofficial]

The issue here for me is that interstellar still feels grounded and plausible because of the execution of Nolan’s filmmaking. This Star Trek RPG makes it just feel like cheap fantastical sci-fi imaginations.

[@SAClassHunterZero]

Boldy going… where the other guy went 10+ years ago

[@Daimo83]

I was convinced by the two minute mark.

[@007REAPER007]

Matthew McConaughey did it better, Love that movie! Atleast the Nolan's know Sound doesnt travel through Space, always remember, In Space, No one can hear you scream!

[@robbunchanumbers]

both of these are chock full of standard sci-fi tropes.

[@GKHTS]

At least Interstellar had some good moments that are rewatchable. There isn't I good scene much less even a moment that is good and isn't stupid and insulting. On another note, did they ever explain how a ship would fly without nacells attached and why they aren't attached as in why it's better and never used again?

[@brotherkellymatthewbarnes8882]

Michael Robinson, errr I mean Burnham, forgot to Cry for Murph.

[@inspector2363]

Was the singularity a future Tilly that collapsed?

[@nunyabitness9201]

I believe kirk's crew brought her back from the 1980's in the hull of an old Klingon Warbird.

[@pdm881]

To be fair, Interstellars scene of using pen and paper to demonstrate a worm hole was ripped off directly from Event Horizon.

[@NitpickingNerd]

at least Interstellar did it better by correctly showing that a wormhole would be a sphere and not a 2D hole

[@TroySpace]

Event Horizon's sheet of paper analogy has probably been used in physics lectures for nearly a century. It was certainly in my astronomy textbooks which predated Event Horizon. Einstein himself was probably playing around with a sheet of paper and a pencil when he came up with the theory. In any case, the book A Wrinkle in Time was the first to use it in fiction. It came out in 1962. Edit: it was actually an ant crossing a piece of fabric, but the basic concept is the same.

[@DamnPictures]

@@TroySpace This is correct. Also, I think I remember seeing the pen-and-paper demonstration in Contact (1997), the movie based on Carl Sagan 1985 book.

[@MabelYolanda-c9i]

Black Matter’s Apple TV+ also ripped off Nolan’s Inception…..but Nolan ripped off George Lucas with his Batman trilogy, specially the last one, copying dialogues and camera angles from the Empire Strike Backs, I believe that this case is more notorious than any other plagiarism in history…..

[@GeoStreber]

Reminds me of that episode that stole that orbital drop scene from Halo 2.

[@HarishBabuM]

I laughed for good two minutes just by looking at the thumbnail

[@manicpanda8741]

I've never considered DiscoTrek as Canon due to its absolute ridiculousness. But this is seriously shocking to me, don't they have any shame?

[@mark2038]

I only made it half way through this video before I had to give up through sheer revulsion but this is shocking. It is utterly shameless. I didn't think it was possible to despise Discovery any more than I did.

[@odidied5117]

Hans Zimmer soundtrack slaps. It's kind listening to angelic hums only to be cut in by scratching chalkboard from Star Trek.

[@Antropologopt]

Well...one only imitates the better.

[@tylero8595]

Damn. Thats crazy.

[@RichardBejtlich41]

Discovery was pathetic even before I saw this. Patheticness confirmed. 😂

[@FreedomCompatriots]

Nolan's Interstellar is a modern film masterpiece, whereas Kurtzman's STD is well......simply an STD lol.

[@artinist]

😳😳😳 good catch

[@idea2go]

You soil Interstellar by placing it next to this other thing. Or maybe Discovery was doing a spoof? Like, what would Interstellar have been like without all the care and quality and serious thought put into crafting it.

[@evanwakelin7944]

Oh my god... that's bad... Even the bookcases!???

[@blonkasnootch7850]

Pha! Sending Data out of a Black Hole... They sould have send Lore!

[@icelord5243]

They are the same picture.

[@hangontravellers2584]

While I'm not a fan of DISC, all tv shows since the beginning of tv shows, take and borrow from other media and adapt to their own show.

[@olliek2837]

It’s been more than 5 years. Attention spans have dropped. Let’s rip it all off! 🤦

[@sulijoo]

1:15 Holy crap is that Shawn Doyle (Errinwright) from The Expanse? Talk about a step down in your career. Yeesh. 😁

[@arty2k]

Quite similar bit any scene where someome goes for coffee is not plagiarism.

[@VidalSuperNinjaGaming]

As a Trek fan it kills me to see the state of the product. All these years of great sci-fi storytelling in the hands of complete hacks like Alex Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman. This blatant beat for beat plagiarism is freagin disgraceful.... and the sad thing is , there are "Fans" of the brand that will STILL Defend this crap.

[@MarkRyan-u3u]

There is a lot of 2001 in there too.

[@stahlgott]

6:34 "It's a maze!" Yes, but it's not amazing.

[@XinwylFumudaiski]

I found Interstellar very challenging to follow the first time through. The storytelling was so complex and the technobabble hurt, but it felt survivable after first viewing. When it comes to DISCO, I checked out after the 2nd season, but when I saw clips of season 4 doing pretty much what was in interstellar to some degree, I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dismayed. Like, ...really? You're trying to be smart? Why would I wnt to sit through such convoluted storytelling over 12 or whatever episodes. I thought DISCO had some useful and potentially enjoyable sci-fi storytelling going on, yes, but THIS level of look-at-how-smart-we-are isn't necessary for Star Trek. ST at its core is followable storytelling that doesn't make you feel dumb for watching but celebrates your ability to get it.

[@veltealexander]

Hearing michael burnham talk is like nails on a chalkboard. So incredibly disingenuous.

[@MajorTomFisher]

Normally I'm a little miffed at these plagiarism videos because most science fiction writers have drawn from some original source including the good Star Trek writers. (Though in the past it was usually books that they took inspiration from and not movies that aren't even a decade old) That being said, the fact that _all_ of these elements are being stolen _at the same time_ really shows some nerve. You have to just assume your audience doesn't watch other movies or that they think you're a genius for constantly referencing another body of work.