The Horus Heresy Ending EXPLAINED by An Australian | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@majorkill]

What a wild ride - I hope GW has some big plans for another series soon or a lot of Black Library Authors are about to become very unemployed. Every dollar to my Patreon is a punch to Erebus's face - join here : www.patreon.com/majorkill

[@Fyrwulf]

There's already been rumors of a series covering The Scouring.

[@Jogaphi]

The new studio sounds much better but i miss a bit of bass in your voice. I enjoy your video as always :)

[@jcornscorndog941]

It took twenty years but we finally finished the intro.

[@joeltsenior6336]

Can we get a Garviel Loken is an absolute beast video?

[@withlovefromlightindust591]

Hello Majorkill, Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.

[@internetuser320]

You forgot the part where horus and the emperor played Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker

[@koolunit]

Indeed, very noteworthy! Cant wait to be bonked by a toasterlover to learn the rules!

[@liciniusluculus373]

Sadly that game ended prematurely becaus Erebus set the cards on fire.

[@OdinsOtherRaven]

Fucking Erebus

[@Prof_Dr_col]

If he hadn't, there is no doubt in my heart, kitten would have somehow managed to win, despite not even being a player.

[@liciniusluculus373]

@@Prof_Dr_col He does have a talent for the game.

[@tirannusmark7ita679]

Blood angels during the siege of Terra: "why are there so many Horus?"

[@nathanielartosilla9110]

10,000 HORUSES! WHORE EYE!! - Bricky

[@EderReis]

Imperial Fists during the Blood Angels rampage: "what the hell is happening? Why are the blood angels charging??? AND HOW ARE THEY WINNING???"

[@shadewolf0075]

@@EderReis also imperial fist: holy… even the daemons are scared of them brother!

[@langleysenterprise5134]

i mean they were still sons of horus so yeah

[@jaredreaman4972]

Hori, even

[@thecommentguy9380]

Ollanius dying is probably the saddest part. Most would think he died in the name of duty, but to him he died trying to defend his oldest friend

[@bloodangel19]

He did die out of duty...towards his friend.

[@FFVogter.-em6zz]

He was like a big brother to the Emperor.

[@TheWarmachine375]

He knew his perpetual nature won't save him this time yet he fought on regardless.

[@joshucamereeno8155]

Doesn’t compare to what happened to Loken imo

[@Ithilienranger345]

​@@joshucamereeno8155Are you actually stupid?

[@archiemticehurst8086]

Can’t believe the Emperor said “I’m gonna warhammer you 40,000 times Horus!” Was such an powerful moment

[@echidnanatsuki882]

The Big E can Warhammer me 40,000 times if he wants to 🤤

[@holyinquisition8854]

"I am Horus Heresy, I will grimdark you"

[@sethleoric2598]

"You hit me 30k times, now it's time to get hit 40k times!"

[@andrewternet8370]

@@echidnanatsuki882Aye yo 😳

[@pacificgrim4661]

I loved when the Emperor warhammered all over the place 40k times

[@TheWarmachine375]

"When Father was interred into the Golden Throne, my normal calm had been compromised. The only way to placate my anger is to hunt down the Traitors with immense abhorrence." - Rogal Dorn probably

[@pedropierre9594]

Bro was leaking from his eyes

[@itmus_a9270]

Shit was so sad that it broke through the impenetrable wall of Dorn's autism

[@lord_inquisitor_flietch]

TTS

[@brianaguila6925]

Dude's anger issues killed his sons and got defeated by his bitter and selfish brother.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

@@brianaguila6925 Which is still a better and more logical story line then I'm jealous of Rogal, so......, Chaos!

[@sphyre1196]

Horus Dies. Emperor Dies. Imperium Rots. Fast Forward 10 k years and shit is well and truly f*cked.

[@adsfddsdfsfsdsasofsavgdhua4879]

not even we're OTW to an imperium resurgence

[@Noorthia]

the emperor is not dead

[@pedropierre9594]

How many times does Malcador have to tell you the emperor is not dead 😂 he is being tortured like a mf thou

[@breakinmedia]

Yeah But Valdor saw the future when he hit Abbadon and has become The King in Yellow. Then spent 10,000 years building up an army of Custodes , Blanks and Blood Angels.

[@sphyre1196]

@@pedropierre9594 Well they don't call him the corpse emperor for being alive and kicking though.

[@anthonyhodap1949]

4:30 if Vulcan was reduced to a fighting skeleton, was magnus beaten by a 14ft tall naked man?

[@theodoreberbach9562]

Yes, you see, only Vulcan's body regenerate, not his clothes or armor, so Magnus was witnessing a 14 ft tall black man with his bbc flopping around charging at him, he was so shocked by this it gave Vulcan the moment to strike down Magnus

[@rafaelmontejocortes4620]

Vulcan channeled the spirit of requis

[@minhaexistencianaotemsenti7132]

Magnus gets impaled by vulkan "sword"

[@bubbletroubles5234]

Our boy was swinging two hammers

[@taylorhuhn9282]

Vulkan goes in for a big hug and touches tips with magnus, thus banishing him.

[@mitchelrowe6915]

Vulkan literally playing Dark Souls 40k edition versus Magnus

[@bubbletroubles5234]

I wish

[@jjwang7597]

He spamming the estus flask

[@matthewharland322]

I need this game

[@MagnusArchitectOfFate]

@@jjwang7597and it worked 😂😂😂

[@KarpetBurn]

lol The Crimson King totally reminds me of a Dark Souls boss

[@sethleoric2598]

When Big E said "You did it, you defeated me Horus Lupercal, you truly are the Warhammer 40k!" It was sad

[@diamondhamster4320]

When Horus said: "It is Horusing time" and proceeded to Heresy all over Warhammer 40k I trully felt it.

[@azariyelvarro6271]

Dorn: Our 30k hopes are dead, now our 40,000 nightmares begin.

[@timothylumala1494]

The true 40k was the friends we made along the way

[@DylanJo123]

He was all, "So what are we, some kind of Warhammer 40k?" I cried man

[@lydon5595]

yeah it was sad, but i got a little confused when Pam woke up after that

[@matthewblaylock5053]

I feel like the whole Rogal Dorn boring Khorne to death with construction facts was straight out of If The Emperor had a TTS.

[@megawl2086]

and also historical facts

[@TheSonOfDumb]

The Chaos gods being driven out of Horus' corpse is so catastrophic that some stars at the edge of the galaxy literally gutter out. Also, notice how varied daemons have been throughout the Horus Heresy, taking on chimeric forms of goats, deer, worms, etc. etc. Now that pretty much every human being in the galaxy has the memory of daemons, the Emperor's plans to starve Chaos of its nourishment have failed, and the book states that "the daemons will always be with them now." Pretty chilling. And I suppose over the next 10,000 years, the crystallization of daemonic forms occurs due to the shared experiences between humans and daemons, such that there are more bloodletters, nurglings, daemonettes, etc. over generic horned beasts.

[@MrFallenone]

Except the 40k lore clearly states that all knowledge of Daemons is suppressed by the Inquisition. With those who meet daemons being exterminated and the big huge massive change to their doctrine the inquisition had to do with the Eye of Terror opening and Chaos invading thousands of worlds at once making it impossible to contain.

[@TheSonOfDumb]

@@MrFallenone "Ackshually" 🤓

[@billyherrington5112]

​@@MrFallenoneafter born of great rift it gives shit 😂

[@nolanbaker2360]

​@@MrFallenone i think its more abouts the subconscious knowledge of deamons more so than the specific chaos gods

[@lUseMyBlade]

When Horus said "You fool father you never saw this coming? MY LAST NAME IS HERESY" powerful stuff man

[@osirisjojo6876]

So Horus won't become a warp entity?

[@taxevasiongaming]

@@osirisjojo6876 nah every shred of his soul was destroyed

[@osirisjojo6876]

@@taxevasiongaming RIP Horus. U will be missed. Also F%^* Erebus

[@Roryu2fan]

Love how they gave us even more Erebus-hate ammo!

[@Scp-682-]

You said it he literally keeps killing all the good and interesting characters and make the ones he didn’t like Kharn a one dimensional monster.

[@Mrspaceman1999]

I screamed at him like piss off man my boi Loken. Plus the fact that Samus was born from the murder of Loken.. that was good I have to say

[@Scp-682-]

@@Mrspaceman1999 really thought he appeared way before

[@thenerfkid9228]

​@@Scp-682-the warp and time don't exactly get along. Samus only came into existence after lokens death, but samus has also always existed.

[@Mondy667]

​@Scp-682- Kharn is not that One Dimensional, he's pretty much sane but beyond furious ar the same time

[@njalthemighty5378]

Emperor using the people's faith to form a spirit bomb.

[@sherbertufo5247]

A holy hand grenade?

[@slimjim877]

My god, is there nothing gw won't steal

[@mrnice4434]

I raised my hand just to help him... as I did for Goko :)

[@Goldchaingarcia]

​@@mrnice4434kaka-carrot cake

[@davecolwell725]

I thought the same thing as well. Spirit Bomb indeed.

[@FateOfNines]

One of the neat things that Dan did in writing the Emperor vs Horus scenes was that the perspective of the fight is 95%+ from Horus who is still gathering his thoughts and is still entirely self absorbed with hints of madness and delusion. When he realizes Emps isn't talking to him when he says "You killed my son. Why?" Horus correctly figures out that Emps is speaking to the Chaos Gods watching from behind Horus. However Horus THEN assumes that Emps is asking why they killed HIM, Horus, his son. However this was >immediately< after Emps arrived and everyone is in shock at the sight of Sanguinius strung up, and after they were all told to take Sanguinius down. So because its told from Horus' perspective it can be seen as him asking Chaos why they killed EITHER of his sons. It could be about Sanguinius. It could be about Horus. Horus assumes it is himself. However the important thing to note is that the Emperor has tossed away his compassion and whatnot so that events like seeing one of his favorite sons dead or needing to kill Horus wouldn't impact him negatively. Personally I think him finding Sanguinius, being unable to be emotionally moved by it in terms of sadness or despair, that it fits perfectly that he would stare directly at the architects of the events and ask them "Why" in the most flat, passive, hateful way. But the entire rest of the fight can be looked at similarly - it's all told from Horus' perspective so there may be things that he is internally exaggerating, getting incorrect, embellishing, or underselling. And this, honestly, is just genius for writing because it leaves a lot of interpretation open for readers - You never know what's entirely accurate when getting information from a character that's drunk on power and recovering from self-induced insanity and still showing signs of touches of that same insanity lingering.

[@TheSonOfDumb]

One of Abnett's finer works for sure

[@VictorIV0310]

I also find it interesting that this book sort-of debunks the whole Rashomon style story of who stood against Horus in front of the Emperor and was annihilated, whether a Space Marine, a Terminator, a Custodes or a lone Guardsman, by having them all present at the scene doing their damnedest to delay the Arch Traitor. Though that paints a rather silly picture of these people standing in line waiting for their turn like a revolving door.

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

Horus has been excellently written throughout the end and the death. I loved in vol 1 the way he was convinced he was being interviewed my Oliton and as a reader you're like "Huh, are these flashbacks" and towards the end of the volume the reveal that nope, horus has just gone fully off the deep end and is talking to himself in his quarters. And the Horus v Big E fight was great. I find the actual combat in 40k books kinda makes my eyes glaze over but I was utterly absorbed by their rediculous fight.

[@davecolwell725]

@@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689 Horus made himself deliberately insane by hiding his consciousness in the past so he could hide his mind from the Emperor during the entire Siege he did it to avoid Big E's attention on his mind and hide his plans from him.

[@Thecommander248]

It's also doubtful that Horus was actually the stronger of the two as Horus was completely delusional at this point.

[@admech590]

Im kinda glad horus died as the original horus, not some meat suit for the choas gods. He finally realized how far things have gone...and how even if we won it wouldn't have been worth it.

[@HappyHog11]

It also makes Sigismund’s final roast to Abbadon even colder since we now know what he said is true

[@guilliman1990]

I actually don't like it I hate horus get any tinny mini redemption. An they ruining loken by just being a daddy simp really put the nail in the coffin. Some bullshit fantasy that horus would ever understand his wrong doing an change us straight stupid terrible writing

[@starsiegeRoks]

​@@guilliman1990it's a homage to how the lore was originally written. If they strayed too far from the original story of how the Emperor slew Horus, then there would be uproar. And in the original lore, Horus was so powerful that the only way he could be killed is if he came to his senses for a moment, so that's typeset. Lokens death, not so much. It's better when you analyze it in the whole context of the Horus Heresy, but at face value it does feel like a cheap Erebus kill.

[@ExponentialCircle]

We?

[@Mondy667]

​@@guilliman1990It's the original lore

[@Bobamawesome]

Ahrimans arc during the End and the Death was really great: Sneaks into the Emperor's personal library Plays MTG with Sinderman Leaves Refuses to elaborate

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

"I must leave, my home planet needs me" *disappears top of frame*

[@guilliman1990]

Honestly better story than most of the end an the death 3

[@fangbozhu7379]

also accidentally inspires a galactic cult

[@slacknhash]

So Loken got shanked by someone who walked behind him. Or to put it another way, cause of death: Abnett.

[@bloodangel19]

Bro thinks he is writing winds of winter

[@kannonball5789]

Man, fuck Erebus.

[@slacknhash]

@@bloodangel19 Ah, the guy's been pulling stuff like this for 30 years. This is nowhere near the longest long game Dan Abnett's played! Right now the record holder has to be what he's done with Sinister Dexter.

[@lykos2738]

That really left a bad taste in my mouth. It wasn't even poetic or tragic. It just felt spiteful.

[@slacknhash]

@@lykos2738 That's pretty much the point of all of Erebus's kills, though.

[@Ariana321]

Should have mentioned that Dorn didn't just wreck Fulgrim in combat, but also hilariously roasted him. Upon realizing that he was- in Dorn's own words- "Just an idiot standing on a wall," Fulgrim just gives up and runs away. DQVO did a full voice-acted readout of their duel, and it is fucking glorious.

[@KeroHiro-Lil]

I imagine a line of the Imperium's Greatest Warrior's, Guilliman, Dante, Celestine, Bjorn, and so on. In the line is a setup to punch Erebus in the face, like a scene from the movie Airplanes. Great video all around.

[@luisroberto6209]

Tyberos, Valdor, Austerion, Cato, Titus, Ghazkull (Why not?),...till the last onde: Malum Caedo

[@bloodangel19]

Leave Guilliman for last or he will pulvarize Erebus and leave nothing for the others

[@dodojesus4529]

Soo, who wears the suicide vest?

[@slimjim877]

You're crazy if you think it's only the imperium that's getting in line for that. Hell, everybody in the galaxy would, including the ctan in the middle with a crowbar.

[@dodojesus4529]

@@slimjim877 zooms out to have the skyscraper sized mfer on screen

[@snackboxone364]

“You did it Horus you truly are the Warhammer 40,000 The End and The Death Part III” - The Emperor

[@adamzhariff7295]

Dont forget his last gasp: "Written by Dan Abnett"

[@sethleoric2598]

Such a powerful line.

[@schadenfreude8291]

Shouldnt it be “You did it Horus Heresy you truly are the Warhammer 40,000 The End and The Death Part III” - James Workshop

[@N0TYALC]

Wasn’t funny the first time, still isn’t funny after the thousandth time.

[@adamzhariff7295]

Oh look at me the edgy party pooper

[@SafetyBriefer]

Perturabo suckered Abbadon into making that attack under the walls. He knew it would fail and did it to gut Horus' best unit.

[@AIartificalIntellige]

Pro gamer move

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

Why did he do that?

[@intensespoon6290]

@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 iirc i think its because peturabo basically carried much of the heresy and got pissed off all of his brothers were pissing around doing OTT evil bad guy stuff instead of helping and decided to bugger off. could be wrong on this tho

[@SafetyBriefer]

@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 Because he's a petulant little child.

[@Archon3960]

@@SafetyBriefer That, and he was _beyond_ sick of everyone's shit at this point. x)

[@mattfahey6501]

Maybe the real Demi god daddy issues were the friends we made along the way

[@month32]

"Get up you son of a bitch! Cause Olanius loves you!"

[@Nukefandango]

(gonna fly now starts playing)

[@silversurfer8818]

And Corax was never mentioned again since his anthology book, with the same name!

[@suwote]

He's just too good in being one with darkness or something

[@Mrspaceman1999]

He was, by Horus. That after he kills big E Gorillaman, Lion, Russ and Corax will come and he may have fck ‘em up

[@doublestarships646]

Vulkan owning the hell out of a powerful wizard of a brother with all kinds of magic because he's a living cheat code. Based.

[@marty2129]

At this point I would bet money that while every god-aligned traitor legion has its champion (Ahriman, Kharn, Lucius and Typhus), there is one true champion of Chaos Undivided and Undecided, a champion so vile that his name is only spoken in disgust... and that name is Erebus.

[@nathanielartosilla9110]

Funny because the name Erebus refers to the entrance to hell itself.

[@marty2129]

@@nathanielartosilla9110 How fitting, considering W30k/W40k Erebus is definitely an entrance to some very dark and (generally) unpleasant place...

[@NornQueenKya]

Emperor: Ah-ha HorusKiba, you activated my Trap Card! Horuskiba: NANI?

[@alexwolf2845]

😂😂😂😂

[@gso619]

There's something fitting about the big E managing to pull off a win thanks to all the energy being pumped into him by the regular citizens of the imperium. Truly, he ascended to something far greater than any mere man or even primarch - Goku.

[@thelatinoguy]

damn, so Ollanus and St Ollanius Perrson are now confirmed to be one and the same. Interesting that the last Cathoric becomes an Imperial Saint

[@manuelabad8682]

The first imperial saint

[@headlibrarian1996]

Who makes him a saint? Nobody planetside witnessed what Oll did.

[@thelatinoguy]

@@headlibrarian1996 from the Lexicanum: Ollanius Pius is a legendary figure, said to be a Guardsman who sacrificed his life to save the Emperor during the Siege of the Imperial Palace. He is considered a Saint within the Imperial Guard and his image is often displayed on regimental banners.[1] The Order of Ollanius Pius is the highest military honour awarded in the Imperial Guard: "...Lucian lifted the winged medal of the Order of Ollanius Pius. Bearing the golden face of an angelic youth, laurel leaves arrayed across his noble brow, the medal represented the very highest honour a mortal man could earn in the service of the Imperium"

[@headlibrarian1996]

@@thelatinoguy That doesn’t answer the question. I doubt Dorn and Valdor paid attention to the dead Oll when gathering the dying Emperor and teleporting back to the Throne, despite the fact that he shouldn’t have been there at all. Neither witnessed his pointless attack on Horus. So I repeat, how did anyone planetside hear about a guardsman on the Vengeful Spirit, let alone get told his name and that he fought Horus?

[@thelatinoguy]

@@headlibrarian1996 what do you mean he wasn't supposed to be there? Pius was there to support the Emperor as one of the last remaining Perpetuals. While I don't believe the Primarchs paid any heed to Pius since he was turned into a red mist, I feel like maybe a witnessing Custodian or Astartes mentioned the "lone mortal" who stood up against the Archtraitor. And ofc then that story got sensationalized and morphed over 10000 years and amongst the Guard is regarded as a Saint. I don't think he was ever actually Sanctified, but he is still revered as a Saint amongst mortal men

[@jkee9760]

Olonius Pius "Not on my watch Horus Heresy!! *pew pew pew* " I felt that

[@grayrook8637]

I do love that the chaos god Big E is the god of ruin. Not order or any thing benevolent. Ruin is his darkest aspect, the heaviest cost and his greatest sin for making the Imperium. Actually makes him more human, the Emperor knows his own evil and chooses to not be dominate by it.

[@rustkarl]

Makes sense considering what he’s done.

[@arionofotherworld]

It was very close, but all the Chaos Gods managed was to ensure that by the 40k period, the Emperor is a god of order, the very anathema they sought to prevent.

[@Ithilienranger345]

he's not a god of ruin he was Going to be but prevented it now he's actually becoming one of order

[@grayrook8637]

@@Ithilienranger345 no His dark king aspect would have been the god of ruin. Now he is the God of Geriatric Psychic wheel chairs.

[@Tommybotham]

So from God of order to now God of ruin? /facepalm He's a God of Death. I don't get why people don't see this and how the IoM behaves. They are a death cult, following an undying God of Death.

[@Mad_Geniuz]

Erbus killing loken boils my blood so much

[@christiandauz3742]

Loken was never going to survive the Siege

[@Mad_Geniuz]

@@christiandauz3742 i know that..but just having erbus shank him out of nowhere and not even get a smack for it bugs me

[@lordoblivion8038]

Erebus is always a hated bastard so it is no surprise

[@lachlanevans5013]

Well it’s Erebus so yeah it’s supposed to. Fuck Erebus

[@blacktemplar1629]

When I listened to that I no shit threw my phone. Fuck. Erebus.

[@scuffedwizard]

Alpha Legion turning coat? I would have never guessed

[@taliawtf6944]

It's so unlike them isn't it?

[@MundaneEsotericStick]

they never turned coat, they were always loyalist, except that Alpharius had a case of severe cognitive disability and somehow thought that fighting the Emperor would somehow help the Emperor

[@NerdlySquared]

They are the Italy of 40k, on everyone’s side.

[@davesprivatelounge]

It's always the ones you most suspect

[@Pokepokeboom]

This is my favorite lore channel, whose toilet water spins the opposite direction of mine

[@Noorthia]

Untrue actually. The hemisphere makes no difference on your toilet water.

[@rhabeldibabeldi6812]

he never said that it was because of the hemisphere. Maybe he forced his own toilet water to spin the opposite direction from MK@@Noorthia

[@Pokepokeboom]

@@Noorthia I bet your fun at parties

[@erenyaehger6641]

​@@Pokepokeboom *You're. 😉

[@Noorthia]

@@Pokepokeboom You're*. and i am plenty!

[@utes5532]

Ollanius is a baller, dude is solely responsible for there being 4 chaos gods instead of 5

[@sethleoric2598]

When Horus said "It's time for the Horus Heresy" and Emperor replied "No, it's the End Of Death part 3" i got severe chills.

[@fadelsukoco3092]

I saw a video discussing the final words of the Emperor to Horis, implying that he will somehow see him again and that Horus' soul was NOT completely obliterated and erased from all of existence and that it's possible for him to return some day, and I am straight up praying that they don't go down that route, as it would devalue the significance and permanence of his death.

[@scorpiowarrior7841]

Yeah I immediately took note that the emperor left without obliterating horus's soul which is odd

[@c.l.8213]

"Horis" 😂😂😂

[@lordoblivion8038]

Yah nah mate its gonna happen REGARDLESS your copium sht of not "going that route" It will happen whether we like it or not. EMPHASIS on Like it or not part. As much as we give flank on the author story telling. It will be part of the lore sadly for folks who are super invested that sht

[@deltatea3192]

Whatever it takes to sell models. - GW probably As a side note I would argue that allowing a path for a character to be resurrected almost 30 years real time never mind several millennia in fiction does not cheapen the death. This isn’t Marvel killing Jean Grey every 2 years or so.

[@jackrylebonclaw7270]

@@lordoblivion8038 switch to decaff mate, you seem to have some aggression issues.

[@bunker7345]

there was always the rumor that a lowly guardsman saved the Emperor on the Vengeful Spirit, but don't ask me where I heard it...

[@Asraeks]

This ending is so much better than what i knew before. -Emperor struggles to kill Horus instead of somehow holding back because of compassion -Ollianus is powerful perpetual and friend of big E instead of some random guardsman who lost his way on the Vengeful Spirit

[@JohnathanJWells]

Random guardsmen is so much more thematically interesting.

[@Asraeks]

@@JohnathanJWells nah it doesnt make sense. Why teleport some guardsman to fight the biggest baddest guy ever when you got plenty of heroes at hand

[@Gabriel__Marques]

​@@Asraeksbecause it shows how much balls that guy had even though he was a random guy, now its just a named character that had overpowered powers and because of plot was nerfed so he could die

[@Gotten1888]

@@JohnathanJWells yeah, that one lone fucker stood up against such a monster

[@nikkorello]

Where can I find the old version of Emperor's and Horus' fight? Was it written in any older book and they changed it with new Abnett's book? And why GW decided that this last scene needed a change?

[@Manobrista13321]

I want GW to focus more on 40K lore now that the Heresy is done. I want the history to progress forward with the Emperor coming back and Guilliman and the Lion reuniting

[@greendalf123]

and for the good guys to win and for happiness to take over and for them to have sleep overs and talk about boys

[@cosmictreason2242]

Bruh no they need to learn from the MCU phase 1-3. Gotta individually reintroduce the primarchs, then introduce them to each other, and up until the emperor returns. And the orher factions need to converge too. He should return by reincarnation imo but they need to give fans good reason to debate the different possibilities by making them seem plausible

[@reckoner1913]

I prefer the initial setting of perpetual stasis and rot. As soon as the Imperium crushes one threat, another arises. But then GW were like "people are still using models from the 1990s and having fun!!111 Money!!!!" And so we had to have Guilliman and Primaris marines.

[@carsonstites]

"You defeated me, Horus. I now grant you 40,000 warhammers"

[@N0TYALC]

Not funny

[@MorpheusOfTheEnd]

​@@N0TYALCYour life isn’t meaningful.

[@infiniteeights7208]

Dam king, where'd the Wes video go?

[@ryanpayne5893]

Started 15 years ago have since used the books to make a support pillar for my house

[@mkno2799]

Awesome, though I think you let one small changed lore detail slip: Horus was stabbed to death not had his existence obliterated by the emperor, as was originally stated. Meaning his soul is STILL VERY MUCH INTACT and will most likely gain a physical body by the time of WH40k's equivalent of the endtimes.

[@Noorthia]

intact, is what you mean. and "stabbed".

[@electricfeverx976]

It's a perpetual killing knife no? Wouldn't that make it so that the soul is destroyed as well since Perpetuals are really just immortal souls in meatsuits.

[@suwote]

​@@electricfeverx976 I guess it would be directly stated that Horus' soul do not longer exist anymore, otherwise it's pretty much another window for another primarch return

[@CidVeldoril]

@@suwote Loyalist Horus returning would be the biggest fuck you Abby could ever witness. I'd be all for it.

[@mkno2799]

@@Noorthia Yes, thanks for the correction.

[@mike3954]

Wow, truly my favorite Majorkill video (besides the magical ones that disappear) and a purely unique and innovative take on the IP we all love. Sucks for everyone else that this topic and title are completely unusable now that MK utilized them, but that's the creative process.

[@scrimpi]

It really is a shame man but it is what it is

[@garthhewson4798]

If only he had read the book...... or listened to it........

[@TheLongVigil]

@@garthhewson4798 All that hard work, originality, unique ideas and specific style eh? Ripped right off of every other short video, loretuber, audio snips and highlight reel of the book that he had to watch to cobble together a 16 minute disjointed video with little to no coherency or flow. Truly a mind of our generation.

[@austinschmidt4165]

I see Mister Kill realized he fucked up by making a video making some unfounded accusation against Wes "plagiarizing" his work. I think he should now come out and publicly apologize to Wes since he thought it was a good idea to publicly bash him. At least that would be the right thing to do.

[@Message1326]

It will probably be a bland, tasteless, unsincere mess that wil make you want to vomit, but you are right.

[@Apickleman]

Yeah I found it bizarre how he made it seem like he was outright copying his videos, when it was just similar titles and thumbnails. Majorkill even said in it that the mature move would be to speak to him directly instead of turning it into some KZbin drama.

[@almondsai7214]

I'm pretty sure he has. It's not a dedicated video but he did talk about it in one of them, but I don't remember what video it was.

[@c.l.8213]

Man, sounds like the Custodes got fucked again. Being puppeteered by the Chaos Gods - ooook. But getting wrecked by the Blood Angels and Abaddon too?

[@FrenkieWest32]

it's warhammer, everyone gets fucked

[@CraigBlackwood-y5x]

I love the bit where the Emperor summons Star Platinum and unleashes all the Ora Ora Ora into Horus.

[@jforozco12]

I personally find it weird that such a big 40k youtuber like you hasnt heard of the Dark Coil, which I think is the best part of the setting in terms of quality

[@OneReallyGrumpyJill]

I love how GW just went "ah, fuck, yeah, also Erebus kills Loken, lol bye"

[@ltankhsd]

The End & the Death Volume 3 info starts at about 11:37 in case anyone wants to listen without spoiling the new 3rd book.

[@Krulltårta]

Haha he deleted the "hate weshammer" video😂 seems like the fandom stood up for wes. I looove it!😂

[@jordanbrulez717]

Did he delete the video of him talk about Weshammer copying his video ideas?

[@emilvennerberg4927]

Yep. He chockened out when he lost subscribers from it.

[@Gotten1888]

I legit thought it was done as a joke

[@mikemarino3567]

Favorite part is when the emperor says, " It's you Horus!it's your Horus heresy!"

[@N0TYALC]

I will never get why Redditors think this is a funny joke.

[@FulcrumHQ99]

Your lore videos have made me love the ultimate chad Vulken, and that's why the compassionate chad salamanders are my favourite space marine chapter

[@mystermothman3092]

I honestly like this ending better; it humanizes Horus more and gives him a moment to realize his folly, and how foolish all of it was, and it's neat for the emperor to actually show some humanity in his forgiveness of Horus.

[@lordoblivion8038]

Even the EOM has give up his compassion and other stuff still can forgive sht not in a emotionally way and which i like it

[@guilliman1990]

No I hated it he did not need it you don't get to sit ideal the entire seige than pop up on the last 2.5 books kill sang maul the emps an then be lime oops my bad im so sorry gg wp

[@piratekingthaszar7912]

PFFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHA!!! the absolute back track!

[@IM-xs3uv]

Spoiler: Horus dies. 😉

[@pgonzalezpaulsen]

Massive spoiler ahead: Horus's soul isnt destroyed

[@frankzappa9853]

Yeah I've never like prequels because you know how it ends before it even starts

[@streetsurfer1190]

You SOB!

[@amandag.6186]

​@@pgonzalezpaulsen uh oh

[@acedeci4560]

i feel like thats the point, You already know C, But A and B are still interesting@@frankzappa9853

[@matthewlear6750]

Trazyn is the primarch of the blood ravens

[@taliawtf6944]

Actually that would fucking work xD

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

Honestly it's quite believable theory

[@davesprivatelounge]

Blood Ravens? Lock the reliquary!

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

@@davesprivatelounge too late they stole everything

[@Mustard_Dispenser]

Damn you shouldn’t have made that other video private. That sh*r was crazyyyy.

[@JoeyMangi]

I’m sure i’m not the only one that’s said this, but an ambitious project to take on (and likely a multi-video saga altogether) would be a “The Siege of Terra explained by an Australian”. Again, it would be more than one video, but i feel like @Majorkill would do the best, by far. I’ve only been a fan for maybe 6-7months, but i love these videos. Straight to the point with a serious, but light-hearted tone of badassery and sarcasm. Seriously cemented my standing as a fan of Wh40K unlike any other content creators, purely because of this epic Aussie storyteller!

[@darksider2903]

After that, can't be sure if Horus's soul was utterly destroyed or not. I don't want to see the return of loyal Horus after he committed so many atrocities. The suffering he caused was just too much, doesn't matter if they try to paint him a good guy who was mind controlled or whatever. He did what he did and it was unforgivable no matter what Big E says. 😅

[@seanyoung9014]

It wasn't. He could come back.

[@insidechaos4913]

If he came back I would actually love for him to immediately the moment he got his memory's back to turn and charge aginst the gods of chaos in the big Es name only for the gods to have to destroy a son who turned his back on the big E only to return to it

[@scuffedwizard]

They already resurrected him once to give Abaddon a primarch kill

[@darksider2903]

@@scuffedwizard that clone didn't have the primarch soul juice, only the memories because primarch DNA stores their memories. It was when "Horus's soul was utterly destroyed from the warp" was valid 👀

[@scuffedwizard]

@@darksider2903 I wonder if it's any different compared to the Fulgrim clone

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

Plot armor swooping in at the last minute seems to be a very recurring thing with Abbadon the Armless.

[@FrenkieWest32]

plot armor is the essence of named characters in warhammer

[@rosiewosie69]

@@FrenkieWest32That may be so, but Abbadon’s case is particularly egregious. (See: Fall of Cadia)

[@FrenkieWest32]

@rosiewosie69 not really. Ultramarine have always been considered the most egregious and now in the last years the crown seems to go to Custodes.

[@v10l3t40]

The ending of the book was the moat emotionally confusing experience I've felt in a long time. Rest in peace Loken💪

[@jaegerbomb269]

Great Scouring series is now badly needed.

[@toheekang174]

They done Galvel Loken so dirty. They should have let him go down in the blaze of glory. Instead they go, ”Oh, Erebus stab him in the back. The End”. That is so cheap

[@kompatybilijny9348]

This does fit Erebus though.

[@TheSonOfDumb]

That's the point of his and Sanguinius' deaths. They were good and noble people, but even goodness and nobility can be struck down by pure evil (Horus and Erebus). So the foundations for the grim darkness of the far future are laid down. It was never going to be a happy ending.

[@thatotherguy8138]

@@TheSonOfDumb It was never going to be a happy ending... but this seems like it's not meant to be a sad ending for Loken, as much as it's just another reason to hate Erebus.Sanguinius has a Noble and Heroic death, but to be stabbed in the back - literally? That's... just not sitting right.

[@_NutcasE_]

I wasnt angry. It just got a laugh out of me as I thought "EREBUS FROM BEHIND WITH A STEELCHAIR" meme

[@Mrspaceman1999]

His death birthed Sammus tho

[@sigurdjensen195]

I really hope they can finally drop the heresy and start working on something that isn't just space marines, but might include some xenos

[@justanaverage1762]

3k SUBS GONE IN A BLINK OF AN EYE... MAJORCHADS we lost

[@yellowdancer7055]

Once again lore vids from the wiki

[@CaptainBeano-lz6mm]

HEY MAJORKILL. You should do a 40k lore podcast, you are by far the best creator for this story telling and at the moment the only real podcast is 40k lorecast and those guys spend more time spoiling things they’re going to talk about in future episodes and saying “HES PROTECTED BY PLOT ARMOUR” than they do actually talking about key events. Seriously they spent maybe 3 minutes talking about emperor vs horus and theres a big audience who would listen to a quality podcast about canon 40k lore that just tells the story and doesnt fill their episodes with personal opinions and inside jokes

[@abyssbun444]

FUCKING EREBUS!! So much for Grey Knight Garviel

[@Type_3_Screamer]

Legion of the damned chapter master loken it is then!

[@abyssbun444]

@@Type_3_Screamer I guess…Still sucks

[@luciferthedoberman8991]

I finished it last night. Loken becoming Samus was the twist I never saw coming.

[@davidwilliam9681]

Did he? Or was it his death that created Samus as a separate entity?

[@Vantud391]

After watching The Exodite animated series, I'm curious about Tau Navy. Please make a video about them, their strategy and battles they fought against Imperium Navy.

[@DoomStroller]

Nicely done sir. Even with the spoilers, this made me want to read all the Siege of Terra books. Dig the alpha legion twist. Cheers 🍻

[@HanmaCaleb]

Erebus kills Loken?! The authors better make a book where Abbadon decides that he should kill Erebus for what he did to Loken, it might make him a more likeable character to me that he avenges his brother Loken and gives us Erebus’ death that we all crave

[@SirMythcat]

Yeah!

[@pedropierre9594]

Wouldnt work, Erebus is actively working for Abbadon during the Cadian chaos assault

[@seanyoung9014]

This is not the universe you're looking for.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Erebus will get what’s coming to him in time. Just let the Changer of the Ways have his fun first

[@HanmaCaleb]

@@pedropierre9594 that just feels like a continuity issue with what he did to Loken who I see Abbadon respecting to let him leave alive, but I’ll let it be

[@LuciusSicarius]

I really, really hope we do get a series about the Scouring and the Legion Wars. Would be a lot of fun to see how the traitor legions continue to break down and fracture.

[@DNero13]

Rahh this has built on the theories and is actually a sick ending

[@Technoanima]

Holy hell, 😂 Literally "Lend Goku your power" moment. Epic and well played.

[@generaljimmies3429]

Not going to lie, when I saw Rogal and Vulcan weeping I was too

[@RockaByeYT]

I love the detail that somewhere in the depths of His psyche, Primearch Horus was still there all along, shackled by the ruinous powers. Brought back only for a brief moment to do the right thing by His Brother, Father and Son.

[@boid9761]

One has to imagine what would an expanded Age of Apostasy would be like

[@alexanderleonardi3625]

it turns out you, the reader, were the warhammer 40k all along

[@giominus7402]

Funny way of saying Fulgrim didn't even know Sigismund was there before casually swatting him into oblivion.

[@duphasdan]

4:25 Lord of drakes and stomper of nerds. Had me busted out laughing.

[@ElysiumNZ]

Dan Abnett is a fucking legend👍 His Gaunt's Ghosts series is the best Warhammer 40k lore I’ve ever read.

[@luciferthedoberman8991]

Agreed! FIRST AND ONLY!!!

[@justinbruck9602]

I like how they worked in a "Normal Guardsman" getting killed by Horus right before the Emperor rebounds and kills Horus. I haven't read the Siege of Terra books but it seems that they actually did a good job taking old lore and changing it, but in such a way that the old lore is just a mythologized/less detailed version on what actually happened.

[@Ingrimoose]

Pulling the Weshammer video was very 👍👍👍👍 xD

[@Jasx_501]

Awesome video man. Thank you.

[@Starlesslemon]

Horus vs the Emperor is literally a DragonBall fight

[@ericjensen7580]

That moment where Horus said, "No E-money, *I* am your father" had me shook!

[@bishoprinaudo3438]

Wait didn’t Auspex Tactics do this video already a few days ago? Kinda weird how you used all the same art he used in his thumbnail in your own but hey I’m not the one having the meltdown over surface level assumptions from months or even years ago🚶

[@pnutimusthe1st]

I’d know nothing about warhammer without lore masters I hate reading. I only do it when I absolutely need to I do not find it fun one bit. You majorkill and KZbinrs like you are very much appreciated by me and people like me.

[@SaintTay]

That’s unfortunate

[@pnutimusthe1st]

@@SaintTay even more unfortunate that I played DoW as they came out from the og first game to soulstorm. Been a long time fan of warhammer just hate reading after being forced to read as a child.

[@lordoblivion8038]

@@pnutimusthe1st same. I hate reading novel because i feel nothing other than boring with a huge ass text. SO i rather listen the lore masters than reading sht

[@MNM-lq9te]

​@lordoblivion8038 well have you tried audio books? Like a lot of guys listen to the book while they are doing something else like painting. So if you hate reading i might suggest getting the audio book version of the book so you can have people read for you.

[@lordoblivion8038]

@@MNM-lq9te well thanks got the suggestion mate, I'll consider doing that

[@Nocumentaries]

Horus- This is blasphemy! This is madness! Emperor- THIS IS WARHAMMER 40,000!!! *Horus evaporated*

[@MNM-lq9te]

Didn't the heresy take place in m30 aka 30.000?

[@Nocumentaries]

@@MNM-lq9te sike naw, you are correct lmfao

[@MNM-lq9te]

@@Nocumentaries 40k? THIS IS 30K!!!

[@JoaoLima-n2t]

You should do a video detailing and explaining garviel loken life and all his achivements in detail,explaing what he is all about

[@Jenartik]

let's play a round of: "Majorkill or Horus?" -torpedoed his entire career in a childish fit of arrogance

[@bigwigcthulu6902]

I just finished it...I REALLY enjoyed it. Especially Loken's arc. Beautiful.

[@terminator9489]

The moment when horus said "it truly was a Horus Heresy, father !" It was so emotionnal 😢

[@josephahner3031]

I'm still at "The Lost and the Damned" in the Siege of Terra. Been waiting to get my spoilers on "The End and the Death" from Majorkill.