Make Ryzen Faster - Ryzen 3300X Optimization Guide

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@optimumtech
@optimumtech 4 жыл бұрын
A rapidfire checklist for Ryzen 3000 users - focusing on the 3300X. If I missed anything, feel free to drop it below!
@anthonyscott2196
@anthonyscott2196 4 жыл бұрын
In your graphs before 6:20, the key underneath is the wrong way round.
@gismo3564
@gismo3564 4 жыл бұрын
Disagree on the manual memory tuning part. Example, a ballistix sport lt kit 3200mhz goes from 75ns latency to 65ns resulting in up to 20% gaming performance on the 3300x without even overclocking the CPU. Some even more expensive 3600mhz kits with cl16 will have a latency of 80+ns and is actually worse for Ryzen, and 10th gen Intel. Latency is also important on Intel side, especially with 10th gen. I'm a little disappointed that you don't go deeper into manually tuning memory when talking about how to maximize the potential of your ryzen chip, as it is by far the most significant performance boost you can get outside of exotic cooling.
@taylogs
@taylogs 4 жыл бұрын
@@gismo3564 I think he did for the sake of simplicity, or maybe he just forgot or didn't know about it that well. "Exotic cooling" had me laugh mad
@mehirt7431
@mehirt7431 4 жыл бұрын
Could u do a comparison of the x570i strix and the x570i aorus
@807800
@807800 4 жыл бұрын
5:25 Both the Ryzen 3 is using one CCD. 3300X using 4 core in one CCX, while 3100 using 2 core in 2 CCX. It's clearly shown in the picture.
@Matt-wc7bl
@Matt-wc7bl 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of effort this guy puts into his thumbnails, cinematography, editing, and writing is seriously commendable. Please continue to keep your content next level. Did you go to film school?
@aestheticsock8772
@aestheticsock8772 4 жыл бұрын
@@HadoukenNewcombe Not very fun at parties, are you, Josh?
@rik4351
@rik4351 4 жыл бұрын
I think he stole his statistics from another channel though. They look very familiar
@jaysanchez4407
@jaysanchez4407 4 жыл бұрын
@@rik4351 pretty sure it's just a stock element you can buy and edit
@Gdank72
@Gdank72 4 жыл бұрын
I gave my mate my 3900x stock cooler (as I have an AIO) and we overclocked it to 4.3 on all 4 cores.
@b.henriques9871
@b.henriques9871 4 жыл бұрын
what v?
@elporquito
@elporquito 4 жыл бұрын
I have mine at 4.4 all core with the Wraith spire stock cooler. Makes a lot of noise though😂
@vladvah77
@vladvah77 3 жыл бұрын
What Vcore?
@Unselfless
@Unselfless 4 жыл бұрын
2:45 overclocking the infinity frabric from 1800 MHz to 1900 MHz let's to run 3800MHz RAM in coupled mode. That's what I'm currently running at CL14 and it's working quite well
@redeye259
@redeye259 4 жыл бұрын
What ram sticks are you running? Curious who makes the memory chip.
@Helios.vfx.
@Helios.vfx. 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t even make mine runs to 1800 fabric at 3600nhz without it crashing
@phlixcarbon
@phlixcarbon 4 жыл бұрын
Starmaker also depends on your mother board when ocing infinity fabric with memory.
@divaythfyr4251
@divaythfyr4251 4 жыл бұрын
Micron E-die 19nm, single rank 16GB sticks (2x8) rated at 3200MHz 16-18-18-36, running at 3800 16-19-16-36. Everything set by Ryzen DRAM calculator, stable, and i'm lazy to tighten those timings a bit better. 3600, IF on 1900MHz, mem controller 1900MHz.
@divaythfyr4251
@divaythfyr4251 4 жыл бұрын
@@redeye259 It's obviously Samsung B-die, Micron nor Hynix can't have CL14 with 3800MHz.
@DenzCasuela
@DenzCasuela 4 жыл бұрын
me watching cpu videos to cure my depression of not having such good cpus
@bananya6020
@bananya6020 4 жыл бұрын
i am still waiting for corona to end so i can finally buy a new psu/mobo/etc at a reasonable price..m
@DenzCasuela
@DenzCasuela 4 жыл бұрын
@Titan Mechanism it's just a contributor but I just exagerated it
@gjdud12
@gjdud12 4 жыл бұрын
What CPU do you use?
@DenzCasuela
@DenzCasuela 4 жыл бұрын
@@gjdud12 i3 540
@jazmihamizan4987
@jazmihamizan4987 4 жыл бұрын
@@DenzCasuela do blck overclocking xD
@katzen3314
@katzen3314 4 жыл бұрын
Would be useful if they were in stock anywhere lol
@JoseJavierRR315
@JoseJavierRR315 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@SeeTheWholeTruth
@SeeTheWholeTruth 4 жыл бұрын
Oh you mean the unicorn everyone is claiming that are just everywhere now? Im so sick of youtube videos on the fairytale 3300X I could scream.
@ProMonke.
@ProMonke. 4 жыл бұрын
In Canada they’re in stock but they cost 400 cad / 300-350 usd. That is absolutely insane and not worth it.
@GrimYak
@GrimYak 4 жыл бұрын
I just checked newegg, they have it there. Maybe you werent looking?
@GrimYak
@GrimYak 4 жыл бұрын
@@ProMonke. just buy the R5 3600 at this time for just 160 USD.
@fVNzO
@fVNzO 4 жыл бұрын
Correction here. The 3300X is situated in a single CCX. Both Cpus have all 4 cores in a single CCD. The 3100 splits two cores in separate CCX's. There are two core complexes per core complex die.
@braxtonjames6766
@braxtonjames6766 4 жыл бұрын
If my recommendation means anything, I’d suggest just trying to find a roaming Wraith Prism from the 3700x/3900x/2700x for $20-30 on HWSwap or on the local market. Very nice looking cooler and would perform measurably better than the stock Stealth cooler, while not breaking the bank.
@Crustee0
@Crustee0 4 жыл бұрын
Braxton James i would suggest snowman T4 cooler instead, base price around 20$, techyescity recommends it.
@MoltenPie
@MoltenPie 4 жыл бұрын
@@Crustee0 the exact thing i wanted to suggest, in my country i can get it from aliexpress for under 15$ (using coupons and promos), outstanding value considering it is basically a clone of gammaxx 400 (almost 30$ in my country). my experience with it is absolutely positive, i am surprised even the fan is pretty decent and is quieter than coil whine.
@MrYedige
@MrYedige 4 жыл бұрын
Braxton James or something like deepcool gammaxx 200t. They can be easily found for 20 bucks and sometimes even for 15 bucks on sales
@LupinxJigenTTV
@LupinxJigenTTV 4 жыл бұрын
Perfectly timed! Just in the middle of planning an ITX build with this. Gonna go for the Lian Li TU150
@amaurytoloza1511
@amaurytoloza1511 4 жыл бұрын
That's a sexy one, still not in the sub 20L world of the SFF.
@HaydenRoberts08
@HaydenRoberts08 4 жыл бұрын
Amaury Toloza If it’s a good case what does sub 20L matter? Bragging rights? New to SFF.
@mcbot6291
@mcbot6291 4 жыл бұрын
@@HaydenRoberts08 Generally to be a "real" SFF case it has to be less than 20L. It's kind of just the rules that the community has made up. Nevertheless, it looks like a great case so I'd say go for it. There's also been word of new Cooler Master ITX cases coming out that look dope if you wanna hold off for a bit.
@ittbelitt8409
@ittbelitt8409 4 жыл бұрын
Haha I just bought a mini build with 3900x 2070 super with that case pretty awesome!
@timotheus34
@timotheus34 4 жыл бұрын
A cooling recommendation: the Arctic freezer 34 esports (duo) goes for 30-40€ and offers very good value. It´s one of the best singletower aircoolersand it looks pretty good as well
@theunholybakery1990
@theunholybakery1990 4 жыл бұрын
I have it, it's amazing.
@Saigonas
@Saigonas 3 жыл бұрын
This^
@user-ce1oh4xh1h
@user-ce1oh4xh1h 4 жыл бұрын
Well, i tried to devoltage it by 150 mV and it gave me quite noticable drop in temperatures - from 68 to 55 degrees while using Noctua U12S under full load by Furmark, and all cores hold 4.3Ghz pretty well...
@thingythingy9507
@thingythingy9507 4 жыл бұрын
Ah I love how this came out 1month after I built my pc with r5 1600
@343_GuiltySpark
@343_GuiltySpark 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for the heck of I i swapped out my 4690k Intel system to my old Ryzen 2700x system a few years back with zero issues. Great performance and stability. Its not the early 2000's any more, Windows 10 took care of a lot of what was needed as it was booting back up. Ran with great performance and reliability before I ever did a clean install.
@bananya6020
@bananya6020 4 жыл бұрын
i still believe the clean install would be more performant. when i (pre)installed windows on an old intel cpu and moved the ssd to an amd cpu it caused a few issues (listen, i REALLY did not want to wait) such as random freezes. thankfully it was a clean install anyways so it took like 30 minutes to install it on the right cpu
@cmja09
@cmja09 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. cooler is not even a problem, you can buy it used anywhere and MAYBE need to replace the fan in 3+ years of usage. Coolers are the best part to buy used, will not see any hidden defect.
@Dlihc
@Dlihc 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best video's i have seen in a long time in regards to layman's. So many people would love to know how to do this stuff but can be incredibly overwhelmed with the steppes.
@dam_j4105
@dam_j4105 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to build a 3300X / B550 system but here in germany it´s just another 20€ more for the 3600 so i choose this one instead. Using only AliExpress custom watercooling components ;-)
@brendon4468
@brendon4468 4 жыл бұрын
I’m building my first new build soon :))) upgrading from i7 2600 and quadro 4800. I can’t wait I’m gonna use ryzen 3 3300x and rx 5600xt
@theAV8R
@theAV8R 4 жыл бұрын
6:15 - I cannot overstate my appreciation for the Y axis of the Frequency chart starting at 0. THANK YOU. That said, 0 deg C is sort of arbitrary given deg kelvin.
@Knackebrot
@Knackebrot 4 жыл бұрын
And here are some more affodable cooling solutions: Arctic Freezer Xtreme Rev. 2, Bequiet Pure Rock 2 Black and Shadow Rock 3, Cryorig H5, Scythe Kotetsu Mark II and Mugen 5 Rev. B, Thermalright Macho Rev. B, Xilence M704
@SteveAkaDarktimes
@SteveAkaDarktimes 4 жыл бұрын
in any case check out reviews and tests of any product before you buy. but the Evo 212 is old and there are better options.
@I.V.Y.N
@I.V.Y.N 4 жыл бұрын
In my country id cooling se 224xt basic is the best price/performance. The price around $20 but runs cooler than hyper 212 Black Edition
@havanaisass4440
@havanaisass4440 3 жыл бұрын
@@I.V.Y.N i have se224xt. replaced stock fan with 2 arctic p12 pwm pst. dayum!
@BigDaddyAddyMS
@BigDaddyAddyMS 4 жыл бұрын
1:13. I disagree.. I went from 6700k to 3700x and just uninstalled all the Intel drivers before swapping motherboards. I get the sand out better performance in R20 as most reviewers and zero stability problems. No need to reinstall Windows.
@TheMaciek51s
@TheMaciek51s 4 жыл бұрын
I changed the old i5 2400 to R5 3600 without reinstalling win10 and also no issues. In all tests I have similar results to what I found on the internet.
@dallatorretdu
@dallatorretdu 4 жыл бұрын
O.T.: spending way more on the cooler than the cpu is not a good idea Me: spends 800 on a custom loop and custom case
@FinneousPJ1
@FinneousPJ1 4 жыл бұрын
Hobbyist is different because you're not paying for performance there
@jazmihamizan4987
@jazmihamizan4987 4 жыл бұрын
​@@FinneousPJ1 technically some of them pay for performance but hobbyist requires it to look good no matter how little the performance improvement is
@ChrisKadaver
@ChrisKadaver 4 жыл бұрын
"The best cpu you can't buy". It was 129 euro. But they're sold out for that price. Now you only can get it for like 150-155 euro.
@iceyberq
@iceyberq 4 жыл бұрын
Might as well get a 3600 at that price tbh
@bananya6020
@bananya6020 4 жыл бұрын
@@iceyberq except that now the 3600's price rose from $150 to $220
@okaeri80
@okaeri80 4 жыл бұрын
@@bananya6020 noticed that. Building pc during dec. Hoping it can drop to around 200
@WhiteoutTech
@WhiteoutTech 4 жыл бұрын
@@bananya6020 here in Germany the Ryzen 5 3600 still costs 160€
@1973Hog
@1973Hog 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a fantastic video. Gets right to the heart of the matter and explains things in an easy to understand manner. Thank you.
@iLLusiveManCS
@iLLusiveManCS 4 жыл бұрын
Any word yet on the B550 ITX lineup ? MSI has a board now.
@m1keway266
@m1keway266 4 жыл бұрын
You CAN use your old windows 10 boot drive, no need to reinstall windows especially if your coming from a older amd platform, have done this myself and I upgraded cpu, motherboard and ram. Many others have done this and have had zero issues just like me. Windows 10 will just install new drivers and will work just fine. You will have to go and uninstall any trace of old software from windows and make sure you install your new chipset drivers after you boot up with the new hardware.
@spootid
@spootid 4 жыл бұрын
As usual.. very informative and detailed guide on optimizing ur 3300X. My favourite tech channel atm... Keep up the good work bro...!!!
@roadhouseguy
@roadhouseguy 4 жыл бұрын
Great b roll so crisp and complimentary colours used.
@eclipsegst9419
@eclipsegst9419 3 жыл бұрын
finally snagged one of these for 150 bucks, which, they have been sitting at 200 since launch so ill take it. nabbed a lightly used b550 for a 30 dollar savings over new so that cancels out the markup over msrp of 120. Now to just wait for a 6700xt to be a thing that can be bought at not an insane price. But ill live with my rx480 in the meantime. The 3300x will still be a nice boost in all the older games that the rx480 can play easily and i play quite a few of them.
@TheSinasteria
@TheSinasteria 4 жыл бұрын
No just use any profile edit the power profile in advanced options change the option power management of processor state both max and min to 99% and and by droping them to that boom no fan ramping up and down its a glitch in the heuristics of windows for power,though you you may take a small performance hit but its better say in my case as my case has 6 fans not an audible sound you wana hear! hope that helps anyone that has that issue,it will also drop the idle heat like on the 3950x by at-least 10'c by doing that at-least with my amd 3950x and a few i have done for clientele
@ilmattoh
@ilmattoh 4 жыл бұрын
Building a 3600X + H60 into an evolv Shift air soon. Hope I can keep the temps under control, fingers crossed!
@adrynnovak3648
@adrynnovak3648 4 жыл бұрын
nice choice for the case!
@oll1_sg686
@oll1_sg686 4 жыл бұрын
Look at his clip to his Shift air build, he undervolt the 3600 to 1.2V and have the same boost clocks as stock but 10-15C lower.
@ilmattoh
@ilmattoh 4 жыл бұрын
@@oll1_sg686 yep I plan to undervolt both gpu and cpu to see if that helps
@oll1_sg686
@oll1_sg686 4 жыл бұрын
matteo UV is alltimes worth! Lower temps, lower noise etc 👍🏻
@ardit9998
@ardit9998 4 жыл бұрын
Dont undervolt Ryzen CPU in Bios!!! You have to undervolt it in Ryzen Master. It is very important.
@danielhu6485
@danielhu6485 4 жыл бұрын
May I ask why?
@Saigonas
@Saigonas 3 жыл бұрын
May i ask why?
@fordgalaxie3695
@fordgalaxie3695 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask why?
@havanaisass4440
@havanaisass4440 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little bit late but.... May I ask why?
@nanolog522
@nanolog522 4 жыл бұрын
The Ryzen Balanced power plan isn´t necessary anymore. It was used to help Windows decide what tasks to assign to what core, based on memory acessibility and so on. That was introduced to Windows shortly after, so the stock plan is fine.
@user-mq1dp1vl4u
@user-mq1dp1vl4u 3 жыл бұрын
i have to say that this cpu is a toastie boy . but i manage to control the temps by setting the frequency to 4.25 GHz at 1.2475V and getting 2580 score on cinebench r20 using cheap 35$ 6 heatpipe air cooler temps being around 70-75c at full load at 30 ambient temperature and thanks for the video it's very helpful
@WineLad
@WineLad 4 жыл бұрын
READ THE BIOS DESCRIPTION!! So some BIOS updates remove support for 1st Gen ryzen on some boards to support 4th Gen. doing so is a NON REVERSIBLE change
@tonkatoytruck
@tonkatoytruck 4 жыл бұрын
I use a CoolerMaster 240mm AIO on both of my AM4 solutions. The R5 2400G can get pretty hot when overclocking the cpu and the apu. Besides, it will eventually get my R7 2700 which needs all the cooling it can get when overclocked, as well. If you can afford it, budget more for cooling and memory up front, so that you wont have to spend even more money later. After all, that is why we chose the AM4 platform, isn't it? My machine may be running an apu today, but that same B450 Mortar motherboard will have an R7 and eventually even an R9 3950X before it is retired. This could take a while.
@butterbean_01
@butterbean_01 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos Ali, always in love with your chill attitude and cleaniness of the footage (and your hair too lol!)
@nemo119
@nemo119 4 жыл бұрын
my 3300x was running ridiculously hot, up to 89 degrees while gaming and up to 94 degrees on cinebench. i changed the ppt from the stock 88 W to 60 W and it got alot cooler. Before: imgur.com/a/ClmKQoo average 90 degrees After: imgur.com/a/W548gBq average 71 degrees Although i did lose a small bit of performance, the system is completely stable and i think it's definitely worth saving 50$ on a new cooler. though im using these settings: imgur.com/a/qsppiTE 70 tdp/ppt (average temp is 80 degrees) is the best imo.
@anavreen
@anavreen 4 жыл бұрын
How did you set the PPT tho? I can't seem to find the option in the Ryzen Master. Same exact problem as i haven't got the budget for a cooler :(
@nemo119
@nemo119 4 жыл бұрын
@@anavreen you can easily change it from the bios settings, sff.life/how-to-undervolt-ryzen-cpu/ this guide helped me alot, just change the ppt
@Frinx2
@Frinx2 4 жыл бұрын
I spent 127$ on the R3 3300x plus 60$ on a 240mm WC from Deepcool, was the best thermal solution for me
@exxor9108
@exxor9108 2 жыл бұрын
I must have some sort of silver or golden sample for my CPU. I have the Ryzen 3 3300X myself personally, and I can push it to 4.4GHz as low as 1.2375v. Even though I keep it at 1.25v for further stability. The lower voltage is stable, but I have it pushed up a bit more as a safety measure.
@nizzan91
@nizzan91 4 жыл бұрын
I have squeezed out 2933 MHz cl 14 out of my 4 sticks of HyperX Furys that are originally rated for 2666 and cl 16. I am pretty happy with that.
@845H1R
@845H1R 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was hoping you had some software hacks to keep Ryzen fast and cool. I'm gonna get a 3300x and throw it into a Node 202 whilst in the horizontal position. Looks like I'll have to throw in a Scythe Shuriken 3 and increase the height in order to avoid really high temps!
@kennyyuliandrika7162
@kennyyuliandrika7162 4 жыл бұрын
My suggestion for cooler is: use gammax 400 and change the fan to Phantex PH-120MP. You will get the best price for performance.
@zephirus4483
@zephirus4483 4 жыл бұрын
Your camera skills are great, your videos always look amazing
@casacerian
@casacerian 4 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. I built a dan a4 this week with a 3300x and a blackride to cool it. Was hitting 90 in Timespy. A noctua 9 arrived today for me to swap out. I'm hoping the blackride I have is one of the faulty ones. I have a 3600x in another system that is in the 60s with the noctua 9, so here's to hoping.
@KarlReith
@KarlReith 4 жыл бұрын
I learnt something really important today; not using the same boot drive if upgrading from Intel to AMD...I'm currently looking at building a new machine for the new year and I had no idea this was a thing!! O_O Reading more about it right now.
@KayJay01
@KayJay01 4 жыл бұрын
Correction: Both the 3100 and 3300X are one CCD, the 3300X packs all four into one CCX while the 3100 uses two 2-core CCXs. I don't blame you for mucking that up, it's hard to keep track of the difference between CCD and CCX, and you did get it right on the visual.
@GuRuGeorge03
@GuRuGeorge03 4 жыл бұрын
do NOT run over 1,3v or even 1,3v for daily useage if you override core voltage. It will degreade the cpu rather fast. Some people have reported extreme degrading after 3 to 6 months already. google it if you don't believe me. The reason why if you watch the voltage on stock and it goes to 1,4v and higher is because of the reading mechanism. In reality the voltage is only that high for literally micro or nanoseconds to boost and then it goes way lower. Run prime95 at small FTTs and you'll see that on stock most ryzen 3000 chips voltage will go down quite dramatically. Definetly under 1,3v
@epicduckhd5531
@epicduckhd5531 4 жыл бұрын
Ryzen's undervolting performance definitely shocked me. With stock voltages on my 3700X, I was idling at 55-60 and my PC was fairly damned loud with custom watercooling, and when I set a large enough undervolt that I was seeing thermals that I was happy with, my CPU would sit at the 2.2GHz base clock in games and not boost at all. It was only when I decided to lock the frequency to 4GHz, which I deemed fast enough for good gaming performance and low enough to give me good temperatures and thus silence at idle, did I see a fix to this issue. Kinda disappointing, but maybe the power tables have changed since then so maybe I'll give it another shot being unlocked
@MeteCanKarahasan
@MeteCanKarahasan 4 жыл бұрын
You should know - the reason you can undervolt the system by 75mV in an MSI board is due to its overvoltage by default to the same degree! Your 1.36v overclock is in fact 1.43-1.44v...
@andersonfrans
@andersonfrans 4 жыл бұрын
Fine tuning is very much hassle on it works, but worth it.
@raysparks3161
@raysparks3161 4 жыл бұрын
Very useful video. I bought a r5 3600 and Arctic Freezer 34 esports duo, they seem to pair pretty well, the CPU doesn't go much over 70 degrees under full load. I couldn't get much better results manually overclocking than only using PBO & Auto-overclock. I don't know how to tune memory but I got some corsair 3000mhz to run nicely at 3333mhz which brought fabric clock up to 1667 and was a noticeable increase from running at fc1500. I think 3600mhz ram and any half decent aftermarket cooler (maybe air up to r7 and AIO for r9?) is good for 3000 series.
@RamtheCowy
@RamtheCowy 4 жыл бұрын
If there was one extremely obvious and simple but sometimes overlooked thing when it comes to memory, it's running it in dual channel correctly, or doing that at all (2x8 is WAY faster than 1x16)
@poobalu
@poobalu 4 жыл бұрын
This is a sweet little chip, glad you gave it some additional coverage.
@erich.1355
@erich.1355 4 жыл бұрын
@4:45 Ali: ''...something like a normal ambient temp of 22C..." Me: *thermostat set to 30C* >.>
@FinneousPJ1
@FinneousPJ1 4 жыл бұрын
Dafuq
@JD96893
@JD96893 4 жыл бұрын
You could just get a snowman cooler on Aliexpress. I don't know why people just out right ignore aliexpress all together. I've bought almost 100 products from them including pc parts and have had few problems, all of which I got my money back on. Even shipping is fast, or was before cv. You can even get cheap mobos from them for the 3300X, I think tech yes city just did a video on it!
@breamlures
@breamlures 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Video, excellent info mate!
@zaferkalender8436
@zaferkalender8436 4 жыл бұрын
What about applying liquid metal between IHS and cooler instead of thermal paste? Because this CPU has a hotspot on its CCD, it should help with the thermals for like $10.
@raresmacovei8382
@raresmacovei8382 4 жыл бұрын
Messing with the IHS on Zen2 is such a hassle for such a small thermal gain it's simply not worth it. It's completely different than what Intel is doing, given the Zen2 cores aren't flush with the IHS.
@Gdank72
@Gdank72 4 жыл бұрын
All core boost is better than leaving it stock settings imho. My friend was only getting 4.3 on one core whilst gaming and/or 4.1 on all cores in other workloads. He got 4.3 on all cores which did boost SotTR FPS by 8-12 frames per second.
@Kingkoofy
@Kingkoofy 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2700X and didn't even see it on the comparison charts.. How does that compare to this 3300X?
@bongotoucan7913
@bongotoucan7913 4 жыл бұрын
Just look up some benchmarks, there’s a few of them here on youtube
@ihliedaily
@ihliedaily 3 жыл бұрын
Your content is so frikkin high quality - it's far beyond UltraHD ;)
@Giratina143
@Giratina143 3 жыл бұрын
So uhhhhh, I paired my 3300X with an NH-D15...... it was running a max of 4350 MHz before on stock cooler with PBO on auto. Used to reach 80c+ on heavy tasks. Now with PBO on enhanced 4 on a b550 msi gaming edge mobo, I’m getting 4450 MHz with 65c max sustained :)
@karman79
@karman79 4 жыл бұрын
Very useful stuff. It took me quite some time to tune my new Ryzen 5 3600 / Asus B450 setup as well. With default settings it was running 50+ degrees at idle with a Noctua L9x65 cooler. Everyone focuses on benchmark results but this is the weak side of AMD which is often overlooked. From my experience Intel runs much more hassle-free out of the box.
@Garcheezy
@Garcheezy 4 жыл бұрын
i actually run a 3600 with 3600mhz ram, it´s about 5/10dls more expensive than a 3200mhz kit. It comes with awfull timmings, 18-22-22-38. But it´s a very underrated micron e die kit. i could run it at 3800mhz with 14-17-14-32 timmings with tweaked subtimmings with ryzen ram calculator. At that frequency, it´s about as fast as a 9700k. Tweaking timmings make a huge difference.
@SamduBusc
@SamduBusc 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to know where to get more information on the point he makes at 1:12. Specifically, why exactly might a Windows install from an old Intel build cause issues? Also, is there any way to mitigate those issues OTHER than a fresh Windows install?
@mysteryshrimp
@mysteryshrimp 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I know of is that if you change too many things at once, Microsoft can deactivate your copy of windows.
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 4 жыл бұрын
Take it from a Ryzen owner since day one. The only way to make Ryzen suitable for gaming is to COMPLETELY DISABLE SMT in the BIOS. Yes, Ryzen is generally amazing for multi tasking and multi core video editing output. But it's always been behind in gaming due to SMT and this does NOT SHOW UP IN FPS TESTING. When pushed to the max core limits, SMT creates a stutter in game play which can only be felt. Your FPS might show 100+ but it feels like 50-60. It's terrible. Disable SMT for max efficiency or learn to park your cores if you want to micro manage everything.
@purplecrayon7281
@purplecrayon7281 4 жыл бұрын
Is the 3300X still a good value though at $120, when the 3600 can be found for as low as $160-170? Maybe if it drops to below $100 as we get closer to Zen 3.
@oghomelesskid
@oghomelesskid 4 жыл бұрын
From what I've seen. The 3300x is faster in single core performance for gaming.
@gismo3564
@gismo3564 4 жыл бұрын
The 3300x is generally slightly faster in gaming, due to being a single ccx. However personally I would much rather have the 3600 at $160. And have the extra cores for better multithreaded games. Especially since the 3300x is in some places more expensive than the 3600 (crazy I know)
@redeye259
@redeye259 4 жыл бұрын
$120 is the MSRP, if you can get it for that price it’s a good value. $100 is a great value.
@amaurytoloza1511
@amaurytoloza1511 4 жыл бұрын
for gaming only, there is close to non-existing gains that a 3600 can give you. For anything else, the 3600 is obviously better.
@TheSilviu8x
@TheSilviu8x 4 жыл бұрын
It's impossible to find it at 120 and the 3600 is more than 160. 3300x is the best CPU ever, basically a 7700 non overclocked at less than half for used price.
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz 3 жыл бұрын
The 3300X is a budget gaming beast.
@yorkshireplumbing
@yorkshireplumbing 4 жыл бұрын
I moved my Windows install from an Intel 4670K build to my current 2600 B450 build, and it's been completely fine... just make sure to uninstall any leftover Intel stuff. Benchmarks seem to tell me my system is meeting the expected standards and above.
@DevineDigital
@DevineDigital 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I would have scene this video about a week ago, @ 1:00 where you explain the previous drive issue, I had to redo my windows setup as it just wouldn't boot period. Thankfully all my information is always backed up on a portable drive so it made quick and easy work of the reinstall.
@redeye259
@redeye259 4 жыл бұрын
Man you post some of the most relevant videos for me, I just bought a 3300x for my rig! Thank you!
@joescalon541
@joescalon541 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a 3300x would be great if you can get one. I canceled my preorder after it got delayed yet again to late July. But I ended up finding a 3600 for 144$...now let hope I can get 4.5 on it....
@RamtheCowy
@RamtheCowy 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say, the gorgeous cinematography and production quality are not to be missed
@farr1260
@farr1260 4 жыл бұрын
Can you review more chinese ITX cases?like the Metalfish S3
@Al-USMC-RET
@Al-USMC-RET 4 жыл бұрын
I have a build in that case and it's great. I wasn't sure about the silver color but it's grown on me. My 3700x and gigabyte rtx 2070 work well in it. Ultra quiet with noctua fans for everything and custom fan profiles too.
@Al-USMC-RET
@Al-USMC-RET 4 жыл бұрын
If there were 3300x processors available anywhere I would have used that instead though. I'd take the higher sustained clock speed over the extra cores for gaming. The black noctua nh-l9 I used really can't go much above a 65w processor with the low noise adapter and my 3700x won't stay above 4ghz on all cores without messing around in pbo which sends the thermals through the roof.
@din3832
@din3832 4 жыл бұрын
For something like a dan a4 i really would consider a 3100 because of thermals, if you are gaming in 60fps and not competitive you are better off with a noctua low profile and a cpu that runs cool and cheap, besides, even on competitive 3100 should be just fine... Who need 400fps anyway?
@zefrogi
@zefrogi 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think I know what I'm doing with my system... And then I watch a video like this.
@MaiTayFoX
@MaiTayFoX 4 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded from an i7 6700k to a r5 3600 and kept the drive, still not stability issues ;)
@asdolin42
@asdolin42 4 жыл бұрын
1.36v on static OC will degrade the cpu even in a short term.
@JadigertheReal
@JadigertheReal 4 жыл бұрын
jop 1.35 is the absolut maximum and degrade is on ryzen a problem.
@sc0or
@sc0or 4 жыл бұрын
I've not experienced any problems migrating from i3 32xx to Ryzen 3 3300X with the same WIndows and Manjaro SSDs. Some memory might require increasing a VDDT voltage up to 1.1-1.15 to pass Cache tests. Be quiet! $30 120mm cooler works great with 3300X. It's quiet indeed, and temperatures are well managed. The stock cooler is not one but some spinning ... thing which AMD gifts to you in case you forgot to order a cooler.
@MrSmeXycano
@MrSmeXycano 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel!
@cd-lf8xm
@cd-lf8xm 4 жыл бұрын
Would add that a gammax 200t is a good budget air cooler that gets you nice boost :-)
@get2burning
@get2burning 4 жыл бұрын
Hi big fan of all your videos. (Coolermaster NR200 SFF review whennn???) but as someone who has always used intel but plan on switching to AMD for my next computer, you mentioned issues with windows installations especially using installation media from intel systems. Is there a link where I can learn more about this?
@timwong6818
@timwong6818 4 жыл бұрын
Really hope AMD could spend some time on their products' thermal performance issue casued by CCD and CCX implementation. Like Intel did to 10th gen.
@FluxStage
@FluxStage 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing before I'm trying to buy one!
@q3mago
@q3mago 4 жыл бұрын
Hey , would u consider doing eSport games benchmarks in this method? Method: cap the fps to 144fps/240fps and getting the average fps for each game / CPU also add section to see how much apps in the background impacting that average like Geforce shadow or instant replay of AMD or OBS, Streaming the idea behind it is without capping the fps, the high fps in small rooms or in good cases like without many explosions in game would offset the average quite much so this cap avoid it and really given the right distribution of the fps while eSport gaming TYVM
@btphonehome95
@btphonehome95 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering where I can find more info on why it's a bad idea to migrate a boot drive from an Intel system to a new AMD system? I had no idea this was a thing, so thanks for the heads up! I thought it was something you can fix in device manager by showing hidden devices and manually removing old chipset drivers for the Intel parts? I've done this before with an Intel > Intel rebuild with no issues.
@btphonehome95
@btphonehome95 4 жыл бұрын
Also, love the attention to detail you put into these videos, seriously top tier quality!
@GallDeveloper
@GallDeveloper 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a review of Raijintek Metis Evo?
@GabbyTech
@GabbyTech 4 жыл бұрын
for its price point I agree fully
@prodgityau8497
@prodgityau8497 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! but i have one question. Im building my first gaming pc, mainly to be used playing fortnite and other FPS games with accsonial streaming. Im deciding on the Ryzen 3 3300x or the Ryzen 3 3100. i am on a tight budjet and dont want to spend a lot of money. My question is; which one should i get? Preformance matters heaps to me and the ability of multi tasking. I know the 3300x is better but is it worth it? Thank you :)
@MartinRonky
@MartinRonky 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a b550 mini itx board round up. Thanks for the awesome content!
@SHIN-mc5ex
@SHIN-mc5ex 4 жыл бұрын
Choose ..... ryzen 3 3300x + x570 motherboard + good cooling or ? ryzen 5 3600 + cheap b450 motherboard + stock cooler
@alex_romancino
@alex_romancino 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing content, what about a cpu cooler comparison next? I got a Ryzen 5 3600 and dunno what cooler to get for my SG13 build, maybe a cheap AIO like H55? Or Noctua L-12s, what's better?
@amaurytoloza1511
@amaurytoloza1511 4 жыл бұрын
the SG13 was designed with AIO in mind. An H60 would easy outperform any low profile air cooler that you can fit in your SG13
@prathameshra
@prathameshra 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video and very informative
@Artdeepmind
@Artdeepmind 4 жыл бұрын
3:19 Thats some money shot right there.
@elu5ive
@elu5ive 4 жыл бұрын
get flare x 3200 cl14 16gb kit and enermax ets-t50 cooler. perfect combo for any ryzen
@wildfireDZ
@wildfireDZ 4 жыл бұрын
That's the reason i'm too hesitating about this cpu. Too much equations to make it the "budget value"
@Aardvark3154
@Aardvark3154 4 жыл бұрын
i own a 3600 but still love videos on optimizing anything
@GoodDay2YouSir
@GoodDay2YouSir 4 жыл бұрын
If one has used a windows 10 boot drive from am Intel build could a fresh re install fix the stability issues?
@zyb07
@zyb07 4 жыл бұрын
Just by tightening the memory timing alone, you can get ~20% more FPS in game. www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/ram-timings-und-deren-einfluss-auf-spiele-und-anwendungen-amd-update-23-05-2020.1269156/ Use Google translate if you need to. Surprisingly, so few reviewers know how important RAM is for Ryzen 3000.
@Twofix
@Twofix 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished building new PC with 3300X CPU and Cougar QBX case. First time building a PC with Ryzen CPU too. I didn't know that Ryzen CPU needs graphic card to get the POST screen. I thought I fried my CPU already lol. It is a good learning experience though. Am wondering if there is a small budget tower cooler that can fit inside QBX?
@amirbahalegharn365
@amirbahalegharn365 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video do you think "Clevo NH55AF" or XMG apex 15" laptop,will be ale to cool this processor when optimized?
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