‘Makes My Blood Boil’: Johnny Depp’s Lawyer Reacts to YouTube Mom Ruby Franke’s Child Abuse Case

[@jenna2431]

When a stranger calling 911 is more heartbroken than the children's own father, that's a big problem.

[@TheCandiceWang]

Right?????

[@CaseyMarie11-11]

THIS!!!!

[@edamameedamame1202]

Exactly 😳

[@tamarathejudeochristianmedium]

Yes, I wonder if she’s even asked about her children? 💙🙏🏻💙

[@brendamiranda2347]

They use their kids to profit for years ,both have the same guilt .

[@MeOhMyOh2324]

The adult child knew and tried to get help. There’s no way the father isn’t culpable.

[@christinasmith3699]

Very good point!

[@whalesong999]

The father acts emotionally numb, probably nurtured for his role as a 'professor'. It's a kind of denial I suspect, it runs through my family, I was prisoner of it from childhood until my late '30s.

[@laurenmay2098]

That’s right, she left for college probably at least 4 years ago. And she reported them.

[@the-finn]

Probably why he didn't get custody.

[@MeOhMyOh2324]

@@the-finn and let’s hope he doesn’t. These poor kids.

[@lolitalocita]

DO NOT let the father off the hook. He’s just as much of an abuser for letting it happen!!

[@ReginaMills-c4d]

Amen

[@CatRiley]

💯

[@amayaalonso3302]

A father must also be aware of the children, but how easy it is to say he didn't know anything, they were separated but then what? Didn't he ask about his children???

[@wintermonroe2894]

💯

[@willqkelly25]

Look up the police bodycam footage of the father it just came out

[@kyyyyyyyyym365]

Hearing a grown man cry over a child's appearance he doesn't even know is heart breaking! Ruby the mother looks like she has zero emotions

[@asafoster7954]

It is heart breaking. Some might balk at this, but seeing that and having to make that call could legitimately be traumatic. I would be horrified to imagine what happens behind my neighbors walls, it's the kinda thing that takes away the sense of security we all hope to enjoy.

[@gman5051]

I picked up on that too..zero emotions and creepy to know what Ruby is made of !

[@jacksprat429]

Ah, but she does have emotions. She is crying HUGE crocodile tears, now that she has been caught and arrested.

[@carmendejesus8828]

Heartbreaking 😢

[@jillruben8924]

How difficult for him to not s stress that little boy while describing his welts broke my h heart. Hee was trying so hard to be strong but he broke from seeing this little boy. Hero

[@Elevate_JV]

For the husband he knew she was getting out of control and did nothing. Doing nothing is just as bad as participating. I’m sorry he’s just as guilty.

[@haleighc1]

Yup!

[@Harry-fk5of]

I don't think any of them saw it as abusive, it was their normal. This isn't as clear-cut as 'she is evil and they all did nothing'. This is about blurred lines between what is and what isn't acceptable forms of punishment, and everyone has different opinions on that. Unless he saw her tie up the kids and lock them away, he couldn't have known.

[@Nightdreaux22647]

Yes the husband should be charged too and get inside prison. His new criminal record will teach him to help and act next time.

[@silversmoke6]

​@@Harry-fk5ofthere are no blurred lines here. You do not remove necessities like food and a bed as punishment. That is abusive. The father is equally as culpable.

[@gehudon]

Absolutely 100%

[@codirennke1109]

That little boy was so brave. He is a superhero. He probably saved himself, his siblings, and countless other children who may have suffered due to this insane parenting cult.

[@ReginaMills-c4d]

Aww, he truly is. ❤️

[@MrsRobinson0741]

The fact a grown man, the 911 caller, was choked up describing this young boy to the operator & saying the cops need to come…is ALL you need to know!!!!!!!

[@jock3l]

This man's a hero!

[@jock3l]

His voice cracking makes me feel a lot of sympathy for him and of course the fact he called the cops in the first place

[@PilatesbyGina]

The fact this disgusting woman is blaming her kids for HER choices makes my blood boil over. 🤬

[@carolynsears1710]

This trial better be televised!

[@Denise_Suzanne]

She is 100% pure evil.

[@dream_on_sammi]

The very definition of a sociopathic narcissist.

[@jerrilynnwoolston9734]

🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 she said her child was guilty and should not be with other children, but then she left them alone for days. Baloney!🤬

[@Ann2046-mindful]

Classic NARC move 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@AltClev37]

I have an almost 12 year old son and doing any of these things to him has never even CROSSED my mind. How could a mother starve and harm her children? That 911 call made me sick to my stomach knowing that little boy was suffering from the one person in this world who’s supposed to love and protect him.

[@lovejumanji5]

That boy actually was able to break through brainwashing and a cult mentality to get help …..he’s brave , with a strong spirit too. Rock on little guy ! 💥

[@eileenmcdonald1599]

Sadly not really his hunger and thirst drove him. he is full of guilt at this point. He is also being isolated from his siblings and other family. He has been damaged. And it will take a lot of therapy. For him to even start to function.

[@lovejumanji5]

@@eileenmcdonald1599 I think that is true , but I think what I wrote is true as well . I certainly hope so .

[@toribern816]

@@lovejumanji5you’re both right imo.

[@lovejumanji5]

@@toribern816 Thanks tori .

[@annahgibbus8]

I'm siding with a strong spirit. Poor boy has been hungry & thirsty many many times & he finally broke free. Strong Spirit👍

[@sswellah]

Ruby making her son the villan in her story is disgusting.

[@Nicole-jo6vz]

Does it shock you, though? I wouldn’t expect anything less from her

[@BetheasByteRELOADED]

We all know who the VILLAINS are in this disgusting story. I don't even have to mention them by name.

[@Im_so_Retro85]

Typical narcissist. They blame their bad behaviors on others.

[@stacie1595]

And it totally shot her defense in the foot. I'm 99% sure it's a lie but if it isn't, that behavior is learned, a product of severe trauma, and only able to happen when a parent is neglectful... even the claim about p*rn only demonstrates her incompetence as a mother.

[@sswellah]

@@Im_so_Retro85 True. Always the victim.

[@JPumpkinKing]

NO WAY the father is innocent. Any attentive and responsible parent would know what is going on with their children. No way he didn’t know.

[@CarolineBaufeld-gv9kk]

He know 100 percent...they all knew this..was Growing up in a narcisstic family as well its so horrible...

[@Chrissy85308]

The father was living there when their oldest son had to sleep on a bean bag chair because they took his bed for 6 or 7 months. He was there when the 6 year old was responsible for making their lunch(all of the kids had to) and taking it to school. She was shown laughing about her young son almost crying on the phone because he forgot his lunch and again with the youngest child and her talking about the teacher asking her to bring a lunch. On that one she said I hope no one gives them food. Are you kidding? It is our job to feed, house and clothe our children. Food is a necessity not something you take from a child.

[@DocBree13]

And he was there when she showered/cleaned and blogged for over an hour after he told her they should take their daughter to the ER for having vision problems - and he waited until she was good and ready, instead of taking the child, himself!

[@christinasmith3699]

Yes

[@eileenmcdonald1599]

Living there or not. He obviously didn't care. These children were emaciated. That does not happen over night . he never fought to even see these children . or we would know all this. Kevin would be using that as some his defense.

[@CraftyMama0222]

Why did the school not call in is what I am wondering

[@roly2452]

​@@CraftyMama0222because for the last year or so, they were homeschooled.

[@mountainmama7155]

When my children wake up in the morning, alot of times, the first thing they say is ,I'm hungry. To not feed them, when they are so hungry right off the bat, is just heartless.

[@jennylistens6135]

Exactly, growing bodies need fed. I wonder how often she went without food when she was hungry.

[@atmywhitson]

Right! 😣 makes me sick! I could not go on with my day thinking my little ones were hungry!! Evil witch!

[@whimsicalgolde]

Like I would go to a vending machine get what they want and I have done it recently. Like no person hungry if we are training or anything

[@violinogirl]

I was telling my husband, I don't have time to even grab my cellphone to take a picture of myself in the morning, worse to start recording everything just to catch viewers attention?

[@catritz]

During the 911 call someone else played, in the background, I distinctively heard the boy say, "it was my fault". Alarm blasted through me, realizing this child had been groomed and desperately needs protecting, from falling into the wrong hands. Lets not allow these kids to fall through the cracks or disappear over time... Keeping tabs on and watching over them. Amen

[@wotiluv]

Yes he had said that because the the man who called 911 repeated what the child said : “he said that it’s his fault” so you’re right he was 💯 groomed.

[@jamesrobbins1243]

You know Ruby was absolutely furious at Russell for breaking the rules and escaping. She was unable to get her brutal hands on him, so she just accuses him of molesting 20 kids. She's a monster.

[@Plootyhooter]

Yes I agree and now she has to prove it in court. She is diabolical.

[@sandraabrahamsson6677]

💯

[@hopedeckard2933]

How do we know that she was talking about Russell and not chad? No hate, just curious

[@sandyjay276]

They said she accused her MINOR child... the older son is not a minor

[@hopedeckard2933]

@@sandyjay276 ohhh ok gotcha… thx for clarifying

[@lauravanderbooben836]

Hearing that guy who was apparently the neighbor the young boy ran to for help, get choked up on the phone while describing that child’s injuries makes me wanna cry. Those poor young kids don’t deserve any of this. Ruby, Jodi and everyone else who knew this was happening and did nothing should rot in a cell for the rest of their pathetic lives.

[@danieljansik7560]

Yes, first time hearing the record myself and.. wow, what an absolute nightmare that must've been for the neighbor. Not even talking about the kids, god bless them.

[@stefaniacontessa]

The most heartbreaking, from the boy, was him saying “I deserve it”!!!😭😭😭🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@emlove256]

​@@stefaniacontessa I know poor kid she probably make him believe he deserves to be treated wrong and how he was grow that way poor kid didn't know any better so heart breaking 💔 I feel awful for them .how horrible of a human she is to make that poor child believe he deserves to be treated like that .I hope she has fun in jail and they take her food and mess with her just as she did to her kids .I could never wish bad to a person but this woman deserves that and worse poor kids living life as a torture . None of us are perfect parents but this is not even parenting this is evil .

[@MyLinda1983]

I hope her sister lose all her follower too. nobody should use kids to be rich

[@loralieisa]

@@stefaniacontessa That's Jodi's MO. Sg=he brainwashes and duct tapes people that she learns are evil through her dreams.

[@mireillemichel7638]

Thank you for having Ben Chew on. He is phenomenal. Watching him during the trial was a great opportunity to learn . His sharpness et sincerity is unmatched . Love him

[@MagickCat861]

A final act of power and control making her child a scapegoat. Truly disgusting and vile.

[@nikkimclay5474]

thats exactly it & isolating him from his siblings to make him fear what will happen to him for his so called sins, this is truly evil of her to isolate him into fear hoping he will retract all claims.

[@deidrekoehler2882]

Yep, she is so sick!

[@Em-tj6rh]

Yeah but she’s insane if she thinks that’s going to work which we all know it’s not but how does she explain the other child the little girl

[@nikkimclay5474]

@@Em-tj6rh she said they started doing it to each other, used some weird term I didnt understand, this woman is disturbed

[@sherryk3055]

100% agree

[@amylynn732]

She made those claims about her child SAing other children so that the child she dislikes will be alone in the system, not wanted by foster families, and potentially destroy hopes of a normal future. I love that Mr Chew said the childs behavior, if true, is on her and her husband. The depth of her evil is sickening.

[@eileenmcdonald1599]

She is just trying to deflect. Like many other criminals do.

[@rachelsuchla2408]

Jodi probably brainwashed the mother that this happened. She breaks families apart by false accusations. She tortured her niece and falsely accused her of all kinds of things and made her confess. Ruby was never a good mother but Jody put her over the top.

[@sunshine3914]

And it worked.

[@Mr_C.Bacteria]

​@@rachelsuchla2408They're birds of a feather. I don't think Jodi pushed Ruby, I think Ruby finally found someone just as fkd up as herself with whom she could fully act out her sick behaviours with.

[@SaintShion]

@@Mr_C.Bacteria I think they mentioned Jodi's manipulation cause Connxetions (spelling?) had *A LOT* of reviews from disgruntled husband's that said Jodi purposely drove a wedge in between marriages, made the husbands the bad guy so she could encourage separation/divorce. She's also been said to shame men tons for desiring intimacy in their marriages. Also I know Jodi's children despise her and Jodi thinks that means she raised them right and their just bitter. Its phsyco behavior IMO. Also is it just me or do Jodi and Ruby look like their the ones dating in the photos they took together? 🤔

[@yvonnemuller9204]

Thank you for finding a thoughtful, experienced lawyer to comment on this, and thank you for conducting the interview so well.

[@CoachKarin]

Let’s be so grateful these children are alive! I send them love and healing to make it beyond this horrible, disgusting experience for all of them.

[@jennymoore2083]

🙏

[@Panthia_Poe]

Beautiful comment! I agree. ❤🕯🙏

[@coll4455]

Amen 🙏 ❤

[@andreamanning3297]

Absolutely. It could have been so different. I hope they are really looked after.

[@PikachuPizzaHiveMc]

Fr but there’s no way the kids are going back to that mother

[@PollyAlice2000]

I’m glad to hear that Ben thinks Ruby’s little horrid outburst is very bad for her defense. These women are sadists. Period. I’m thankful that the judge has so far kept them in jail with NO BAIL.

[@jacquelineglitter4328]

No bail for those 2 evil sick adults and charge the father too.

[@hsk2909]

Narcissistic Sadists, both of them. My opinion totally agrees with your opinion. A person does not do this to their own flesh and blood unless they are a sadist.

[@love2sing20101]

Definitely. I also feel like she would be the type to make a run for it.

[@PollyAlice2000]

lovetosing, Yes! I think you are right about that! I read somewhere that she fled the hospital her two little ones were taken to as soon as she was told that the police wanted to speak to her! Her and Jodi’s little cult followers might try to help her disappear. Really glad that the judge is keeping these women in jail where they belong.

[@jillr759]

They are brainwashed from LDS and believe they’ve done nothing wrong. That’s who hired this team of lawyers most could never afford, the church.

[@bethysbarn]

That neighbours call was heartbreaking to hear 😭💔 I’m so glad the child found their way to him! He sounds sweet and I’m so glad he was there to help him that day! ❤

[@Ellie-mz1rq]

Her oldest daughter has been saying this for 2 years and no one did a thing. In order to stop child welfare agencies and cops from not investigating properly or dismissing claims, there should be charged criminally !! Enough of this.

[@Joy-qw3wm]

Totally agree! They need locking up and family vloggers removed or demonetized!!

[@OodieSoodie]

@@khfan9437Talking about the CPS system and their employees. Looks like you can’t read very well either…

[@Ellie-mz1rq]

@@khfan9437 looks like it's you who can't read ... I was speaking of the cops and and child welfare services should be charged.

[@fatimashah5311]

Well sadly look at what state it is,it’s a very vile state when it comes to this stuff…

[@OodieSoodie]

@@khfan9437 Gon on ahead and delete or edit that comment before you make a further fool out of yourself.

[@Debthouse]

Ben Chew always helps restore my faith in humanity and the legal profession. Thank you for your integrity and commitment to the truth.

[@jenniferfriesen7691]

He’s really great, isn’t he?

[@enough2715]

💀

[@briansounalath]

He’s like Johnnie Cochran. Getting guilty abusers off scot free. You Zombies.

[@Kimy31268]

❤ Ben

[@Fridayyet]

Not only is he an amazing attorney, he is a wonderful human being❤❤

[@Bluenariangirl]

It is DISGUSTING that the authorities didn't do anything until one of the kids ESCAPED a detaining- showing up to a stranger's house covered in duct tapes and injuries- heartbreaking 😢

[@pistolpete8231]

Is it shocking tho? They live in Utah, the majority of their population is full of Mormon weirdos.

[@Reluctant.Idealist]

Ben is so well spoken, and has such an aura of integrity. I’m so glad we got to hear his take on this case!

[@wwondertwin]

He is. Would love to hear commentary from Camille Vasquez too!

[@Yoavo]

Yea, and although the topic is grim, this video was very very enjoyable, relaxing and informative to listen to and watch. Two well spoken guys on good terms discuss a highly interesting and confusing topic. Enjoyed this vid way more than I expected and should have

[@spacenerd9499]

I got a crush him 🤭

[@evelynfrederick]

I love Ben! He's genuinely just kind and sweet ❤

[@LawNerdAmber]

Me too! I just wish the sound didn't have that high pitched something or other when they speak. Not sure if it's on l&c end or Mr. Chew's end

[@kristenjustkristen9462]

Hearing the sweet man on the 911 call describing how horrific the little boy looked, he could not hold back his tears. Disgusting women need prison 4 life.

[@kaytoka717]

and their fathers living there and allowing this

[@kristenjustkristen9462]

@kaytoka717 Absolutely!! Thank you for reminding me! I was just so distraught by listening to this poor guy on the 911 call I completely left out the other culpable adults.. There's no way in heck the "dads" in this debacle had no idea what torture was going on! Even IF they were separated, they still knew wtf was going on in both homes!

[@thatfangirl1389]

I hope the kids have the right emotional and mental support right now. Imagine seeing your own mom who hurt you physically and mentally saying and accusing you, for a young child, it might have been so confusing. Imagine the immense fear the child might be feeling at this moment. Imagining it just breaks my heart.

[@impactfully5714]

Moms who are abusive to their children are the lowest scums in society. The father is no different. He too needs to be in prison. So sick of people like this who go unchecked for years without being held accountable for their abusive behaviour.

[@earnold1896]

Totally.

[@mwwkwnwkm]

I think they were separated & she was left alone with the younger kids. I think that's maybe why it went so far or maybe it always did. ofc it was happening before this came out when he was still there but I don't think he had as much control which is no excuse. her family came out too and said they wanted to say smth but were too scared which is just awful to defend. the cops were called on them multiple times involving thing abt the children

[@kassandranunez2899]

Yes i was confsued why no one was saying anything about him and one person replied saying “he didn’t know” . Like yes he diddd and let Ruby treat their kids like this for yearsssss i hope he gets time too

[@candacechew76]

I hope Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt both go to prison. Wait till the other women in lock up learn what they were doing to those kids. They'll end up having to put those women in solitary to "keep them safe"

[@susanryan8183]

The dad is culpable too! I can’t agree more!

[@joellezima3506]

Do you know what I hate? That 12 year old was duct taped and probably isolated for who knows how long with no one to stand up for him, nowhere to go. These kids have been recorded in her videos saying they don’t have friends and they don’t do any activities. By her leveling those allegations at her son, she’s STILL trying to control him and succeeding. Now he still won’t be around kids his age and honestly may never be again, those kind of allegations don’t go away even if they’re false. She is an EVIL monster

[@eileenmcdonald1599]

It was not just the 12 year old. There was also a 10 year old. Plus 2 older siblings that there have been no reports of their condition that I have been able to find

[@khfan9437]

…chill. “Allegations” from a proven criminal won’t go far. He’s out in the free world. She rots in jail. He’s anything /but/ still under her control.

[@marrriiaa895]

I hope she is found guilty on all counts and gets the maximum amount of punishment consecutively and not concurrently… Praying for the healing of the children 💔 this case is truly horrific

[@simonetta-ta]

And the dad as well. He tolerated everything. Yuck!!

[@AliceBowie]

The father might not have actively hurt the kids, but he didn't protect them. He was probably afraid of the wife, who's obviously a psycho, but he should have done something. The wife is a part of a famous mormon family, so he was probably afraid of the whole family

[@Alyinaz]

The videos with him showed him on board with everything she did.

[@TwistedRiffster]

Clit monger, he was kicked out

[@magdaraghassi2224]

He is guilty too since he his their father and has to protect them

[@MustangSally7259]

Yeah, I think he was afraid of her and just wanted a divorce...but he should've cared and thought about his children.

[@raspberryjamz]

if you watched the early youtube videos, he supported everything she did. he’s just as guilty

[@Alyinaz]

She threatened to withold food many times from her Children in her videos. One that was really disturbing to me besides the lunch video was when Little Russel asked her if he could have breakfast and she replied " You don't need Food ". Her husband was also there in many of her videos and backing her up.

[@VioletJoy]

That was heartbreaking. He had dark circles under his sweet little eyes. 😥

[@trinitywright7122]

Sigh

[@merncat3384]

😞

[@coll4455]

I’ll never forget that video and the dark circles under his little eyes

[@TheCandiceWang]

Arrest the dad!! Charge Kevin Franke

[@Sabrina_D.]

The dad should be charged, too. There's no way he didn't know that his own kids were being mistreated. Such a shame.

[@berenicelozano451]

So thankful the neighbor did something about it! He truly saved the kids lives from more torture. God bless those kids and hopefully heal from all the trauma they caused them.

[@jenniferfriesen7691]

Yes! He’s an angel, and I feel such grief for how this situation must be impacting him.

[@shewolfinubaka]

He’d also been calling before on other small things about the house that made him worry but I think it’s so crushing for him that he was undeniably right and that he probably feels like maybe if he’s called more he could’ve stopped it sooner but every time he’d call the authorities wouldn’t do anything

[@deborahparks1296]

Ben Chew is a great lawyer with heart. We need to hear from him more often.

[@boppenheimer_00]

The thing that sticks out to me in this case is the fact that Franke and Hildebrandt had the nerve to put themselves on a pedestal as an example of good people when they’re really just pathetic people trying to get a sense of power by hurting children.

[@gnwzataz]

Yes, I agree 😂

[@betty13crocker]

Absolutely true. Because of their persona and their influence the punishment should be the highest amount possible.

[@ninapickles9]

The people who shout the loudest about how great they are, are the worst. Never believe someone who speaks so highly of themselves...

[@miss1rabea]

When an experienced lawyer tells you this case is heartbreaking, just trust him. It's beyond heartbreaking..

[@jenniferfriesen7691]

They’ve seen it all. When they’re upset I pay attention.

[@thisisntahandle]

You don’t need a lawyer to tell you that

[@mangos2888]

Are you kidding? A lawyer would say that in any chance it would help their case 😂

[@cristineconnell7803]

Don't need a lawyer, only a heart, soul & common sense!

[@lareeseblaque8303]

I went to the Mormon church for 6 months. I got out of there right away. I couldn't live by their rules and rituals. Absolutely nothing they practice is Biblical. It's a cult.

[@Kizira]

The situation is heartbreaking when you hear about it, but you add the emotion from a grown man calling 911 makes it so much more real and horrific. I think there is so much attention because the public tried for years to get the authorities involved.

[@DaydreamAllday]

Right! I've hated her for years. I'm hoping these poor kids get justice and she gets many years in prison.

[@cindyschneider4728]

​@@DaydreamAlldayI hope and pray they get intensive therapy. Poor kids are going to need it. And the fact that Jodi's "services" were Church sanctioned is disturbing and chilling.

[@khfan9437]

Well that and how horrific it is, on top of her being pretty well-known on KZbin. I wouldn’t call her famous…She doesn’t deserve the term. People like me do.

[@feelingoffbalance]

This is very common actually. The abuser blaming the children. They see themselves as a victim, they are truly disgusting.

[@sarahhale-pearson533]

What kind of father walks away leaving his kids in an abusive situation?

[@johnnydepp-Dv50]

Absolutely bad

[@kellyholbrook7667]

​@@paulcooper353unless he went deaf, blind and had a traumatic brain injury... He had to know she wasn't a good mother! Look how long they were married. They had six children together. Come on..

[@feanorian21maglor38]

@@paulcooper353 He was involved, knew about everything but was too weak and pathetic to lift a finger to stop it.

[@shadowfox8425]

​@paulcooper353 he was not legally forced to leave, so yeah, he's at fault

[@tayzk5929]

The kind of Father who lives in a Feminist society so he has no rights over his wife or children.

[@e_mautrey463]

OMG that 911 recording was so heartbreaking when he started describing what was going on... Just heartbreaking.. That call says IT ALL

[@mainecoonmomma9494]

It’s horrible to think of what these children have gone through. Imagine all the parents that actually took these two women’s classes or whatever was on their site and started using these forms of punishment in their own homes. How many other kids are out there that are going through this as well because of these women. It breaks my heart to think of it.

[@melissaholman2605]

Ben Chew is just an amazing person and an amazing lawyer. It's always a pleasure to hear him speak.

[@lareeseblaque8303]

Absolutely.

[@JConnel]

I agree

[@donaburns1910]

Agreed. I have so much respect for him!

[@thedaviszone5187]

They also took away Christmas from the younger 2. They said they were giving them love for Christmas. The older 4 would get presents. How crazy is that? Ruby is crazy in the head. These poor kids. I pray for them.

[@lindaolsen7089]

Hubby Kevin went along with it. Making the little ones watch. Evil.

[@khfan9437]

Yeah. And what I want to know is how tf they were so rich. They had that house before the KZbin money, and the mom is deranged, so wtf did the dad even DO to be that rich?! When they’re both about as smart as a rock. Makes no sense.

[@getgaymin]

My family totally pulled this one on me when I was young, which is why I hate Christmas to this day. Literally made me sit and watch as everyone but me opened their presents and wouldn't let me leave until I'd cleaned up all the wrapping paper by myself.

[@KatharinaK117]

Christmas isn't about gifts n presents, though... but she s crazy in a bad way.

[@sarabengtsson5741]

@@KatharinaK117 for children it is. Especially if they have to watch their siblings get gifts.

[@selena-kd2gz]

That little boy went and did what no adults did. He saved himself and his siblings

[@mrsteve3527]

I hope she gets 30 years. I hope the husband is charged and gets the same sentence. He KNEW how she was- his silence is complicit. Both of them should never be allowed to be around children again. The guy that called it in got to me. God bless him. God bless these poor kids.

[@ninabeana97]

I hope she gets wayyyyy longer than 30 years

[@khfan9437]

@@ninabeana97 it’s possible. She has 6 felony charges with a max of 15 years a piece. Only time will tell. It would truly be hilarious to hear her get the max of 90 years lol

[@Kimberly-zv7gr]

You mean 75 years!

[@davyjones77]

doubt it, courts are hella biased towards mothers or women in general

[@verbenastars]

@@Kimberly-zv7gr?? 15 x 6 = 90

[@bethanybergeson4192]

Ruby is certainly no gem. I hope her jail time turns into prison time.

[@meowser1905]

And isn't granted time served either.

[@Foodietuyo]

Jail is way worse than prison so I hope she spends her sentence in jail

[@springer585]

I hope when she gets sent down they withold her food

[@penskepc2374]

She is looking at some pretty serious time . I doubt she gets the 15, but wouldn't be shocked if she got 3-5

[@selkie2737]

@@springer585 and make her sleep on the floor

[@BMarie774]

Russell is an innocent boy. Ruby is lying. Listen to her and the families own words describing him. Ruby herself said “he couldn’t tell a lie even if he tried” and how empathetic he is. It’s expressed by them repeatedly how sweet, sensitive, and good he is. I hope Russell knows the world doesn’t believe her.

[@beareeves4923]

It would have to be the 12 year old. The SA would have to have occurred over time. Chris was the one that escaped out the window. He was emaciated and had been kept tied for extended periods.

[@lindaolsen7089]

@@beareeves4923 They called him R.F. Pretty sure it's Russell. The girl they found tied in Jodi's house is E.F. Eve.

[@gh0stsp4l]

@@beareeves4923Who tf is “Chris”?

[@alican5695]

@@gh0stsp4lThere is no Chris.

[@HelenTadle]

​​@@beareeves4923There's no Chris in the family. It must be Russel the 5th child.

[@jeanie8593]

Surely now laws should be passed to prohibit parents using their children on social media in this way. To have their lives on view for the world to see. They are too young to give permission and the ramifications could be lifelong mental health issues.

[@atmywhitson]

Yessssss!!!!! 😢

[@jenniferfriesen7691]

Absolutely! Parents using their children to make money. Period. There’s no other motivation for these family vloggers. Some of the content is so inappropriate. Gross.

[@AnnaP-uh3mc]

Yes. This should be able to amend child labor laws to cover this.

[@flatandsplat]

Plus making money off her kids

[@violinogirl]

I have been saying h that. Any vlogger or media "influencer " using the kids as the core of the show, it isn't worth to watch.

[@andin916]

I love how humble this guy is…. His knowledge on this case is priceless! Thank you for this.

[@giearomin2738]

The son who was able to escape is a hero to his siblings I hope and pray he'd grow and prosper and be very healthy emotionaly stable❤

[@stellashepherd3229]

I’m wondering where the other kids were. I know the oldest is out and maybe the oldest son too, but aren’t there are a few other kids under 18?

[@kathywatson7822]

I wish all lawyers were like Ben Chewe. He seems like such an upstanding, compassionate person

[@RC-jr4in]

He has a kind face and demeanor.

[@ccsullivan9164]

Wonderful to see Ben Chew again. This vile situation worsened in my mind when I heard reports that the 12 year old boy refused medical treatment for four hours until EMTs convinced him it was okay. He thought he would get in trouble. My heart hurts.

[@carpools]

How could a mom be so cruel

[@mohammadislam2324]

Crappy parenting from her own parents. I was disciplined but I was never tied up or to any extent as the were described.

[@juliagrant3299]

She's a narcissist!

[@silversmoke6]

Religion.

[@wendya.presley7316]

​@@mohammadislam2324my parents used 2 beat me with a belt, I've never hit my child. Ever. Bad parenting can't be an excuse for her imo

[@Ashley-wu7hy]

Some people aren't moms... and have zero attachment to this kids or anyone tbh

[@lisakay8798]

This is so sick! It really ticks me off that these animals don't like being detained. They're having "medical issues." They should be kept in cages and duct taped just like they did to those babies.

[@joyousbloom731]

Animals usually protect their offspring. She is a monster.

[@lisakay8798]

@@joyousbloom731 you are so right! They are monsters.

[@claudiailopez]

Animals are loving and protective of their babies, she's a piece of s#%%^

[@tarien2213]

Please don't compare them to animals. Animals do not do this to their babies, people do.

[@nansmith8703]

How about putting them in a gibbet?

[@stephanievizzi9147]

The fact that she punishes her kids and gets upset when they “see the value” in it instead of being miserable and mad but then she extends their punishments when they aren’t repentant enough just shows how twisted and warped she is. She purely wanted her kids to be miserable.

[@sissybrooks8588]

Exactly. The goal is misery.

[@tracymeredith9450]

Every one of those children have been traumatized, in one way or another, by this woman. I am just in awe at how this could go on that long, without anything being done. But the son that went to neighbors, had to be feeling terrified, and helpless to actually "do" something. He is a brave kid. I pray for those Children.

[@HellaQuinn]

I wonder how many houses he attempted before that who couldn’t be bothered to help him honestly

[@lareeseblaque8303]

Every thing you said is right.

[@TheNewsAnchorYouTrust]

Ruby is an example of which you think: Whatever legal punishment she will get - it's not enough!

[@childtimematters513]

Mr Ben: We would very much appreciate you and your team to offer legal assistance for the six children. You have the best personality.

[@punky19761]

I don’t follow this case because Ruby Frankie was a KZbinr. I didn’t know who Ruby and Jody were before they were arrested. I don’t give a crap who Ruby and Jody think they are. I follow this case because I care about the kids getting justice for what has been done to them.

[@PollyHistor]

Absolutely Agreed.

[@F88689]

The fact that she was a KZbinr gives her more notoriety than if she were not, and also for doing the opposite of what she said.

[@wendy833]

I've never seen her on KZbin or heard of her until the arrest. She is a evil person.

[@DocBree13]

You’re like the vast majority of people following this case

[@joec6804]

Yeh never heard of them.

[@Witch_way07]

Why didn't the Father say anything or do anything to help his Kids? Even if he moved out he is still responsible for his children.

[@jolovesminnis]

Cause the channel was making ALOT OF MONEY!

[@flowerjpotter1629]

The boy didn't ask the neighbour to call his dad to come and help him. That tells me he knew the police were his only hope. Poor children, i hope they're safe now. Ben always comes across as such a nice man.

[@edenleighl]

Ben is a true class act and just so talented, compassionate and well spoken! You don’t get many lawyers like that unfortunately! He never has to put on an act, be sarcastic, call people names, belittle people etc. to get his point across.

[@marckhachfe1238]

Yes very impressive man

[@lisajohnson6296]

There was a Christmas video where the younger children were punished and not given Christmas presents and had to sit and watch the older kids open their presents as punishment and the dad was there in the video and was part of it….he knew what was happening.

[@chapmanchaps]

Exactly-that was full on evil. And the dad was absolutely on board with this twisted “parenting”

[@khfan9437]

Long story but I’m living proof that God exists, and I was gifted what you see in my pfp in real life by Him, obviously, so I’m going to request something special. The day we all go to Heaven, we all get to open our presents in front of them-while they get nothing. It’s a long-shot, because I have a feeling that God still wouldn’t do that, but I will still try.

[@kamilestone]

I really think her claiming that boy did all this SA is another way of punishing him. Imagine you’re so young and you’re not placed other children you’re gonna suffer, and now that he can’t see his siblings it’s her way of saying you put me in jail I’m gonna punish you for it. disgusting and disturbing.

[@MiraSthira]

She’s laughing because she’s sadistic

[@merncat3384]

She really is.. it's so sick

[@bookwormaddict3933]

You can't demand trust and you have to earn trust. Jodi is deranged.

[@DearestFandoms]

Same thing with respect. She seemed to be militant about requiring (demanding) her children to 100% respect her, but she never earned their respect…she is far from respectable! You can’t force respect!

[@debmadden4157]

@bookwormaddict3933 Excellent comment you made

[@jonahlogan7234]

All Edomites are deranged 😂😂😂

[@christinaeckhart2784]

Right? That, was the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Until she spoke again.....i can't believe she had a successful business in therapy!

[@goodthoughts2252]

Yep… also respect where it is given - age wears no boundaries as far as I’m concerned.

[@BookishDark]

27:41 exactly this. Completely agree. The man on the phone sounded like he choked back tears when he said the boy said it was his fault. Also - I love Ben. He’s just fantastic.

[@kowgyrl]

My mom would definitely go to prison nowadays with how I was raised. She did all these things and more, along with lots of physical punishment or just a 'whipping girl' when she got mad. My heart hurts horribly for these children 💔😢 Sending them all my love and strength.....🤍🕊

[@joiab11]

I’m so sorry, that’s terrible 😢 sending you love

[@louisadway1856]

I'm so incredibly sorry that was done to you. You didn't deserve that. ❤

[@starlingswallow]

I am SO sorry you had to suffer through that. You deserved a healthy, loving mother 😢❤

[@VioletJoy]

How very traumatic. Hopefully you've received therapy and loving support. 🤍

[@NoChance-oz4dd]

How has that treatment affected you in later life , do you suffer from any mental health issues ? Im sorry you had to go through that

[@theresakent8461]

She is disgusting. But she dug herself into a deeper hole by saying that one of her children "watched" p**n. This just goes to show how much of a negligent mother she is. It means that she let it happen if that statement is true. I don't believe it happened. She's just trying to put the blame on everyone else but herself. She is selfish and she deserves to rot in jail.

[@susier7766]

"one of her children watched p**n at three years old" What? I don't believe it.

[@lumiere7216]

@@susier7766 3,4 & 5 yr old kids always go through I show you mine if you show me yours. - Its normal behavior; kids question everything at this age - it’s when children start to become curious.. *_THIS IS NOT SA_*. Kids just have to learn that just because it is normal to have 'privates' there is no need to show everyone else. OMG

[@laurenmay2098]

She is like Lori Daybell, blaming the victims. JJ and Tylee are happy in the after life. And Ruby is lucky she did not killed her kids.

[@laurenmay2098]

@@lumiere7216I babysat many kids, all ages. Never see that behavior. But I witnessed boys playing while taking a shower or a bath. They would pulled out, but I never said much, because they do not know anything about their body anatomy. Not sure at school how that plays out. But usually they don’t get naked, so I can’t say anything about.

[@mwwkwnwkm]

she was rlly religious

[@Oldhatz]

Both parents and Franke's business partner as well as those officials in charge of child welfare who ignored calls of concern need to be held accountable.

[@ArtfullyMusingLaura]

The husband is not innocent. He was on the KZbin videos when abusive punishment was being dealt out. There are videos where she tells stories for years when most were toddlers and talks about abusive behavior. In the worst case, this man was all in or, in the best case, turned a blind eye.

[@infamouszxnicky]

The fact that Ruby’s bestie Jody is overweight but they both starved those poor children makes this even more sickening if that’s even possible. Also, not buying that Ruby’s hubby Kevin didn’t know what was happening with his kids! He needs to be charged too!!

[@mangos2888]

[Insert obligatory weight comment here] So original

[@gnwzataz]

​@@mangos2888in this case it's interesting because they were starving their children

[@jefferzzofficial]

@@mangos2888 she should of started a fitness channel instead

[@Arkie-Sparkle]

​@@jefferzzofficialFact ... too funny, 😂

[@pp-here]

​@@mangos2888dumb and unoriginal 👎

[@beachmoon18]

Ruby is so disgusting she's spreading lies about her own son!! I'm really worried about the kids I really hope that they're all safe with people who really care about them

[@karenknight8275]

I just watched a KZbin video by Jodi Hildebrand's niece, Jessi, who says Jodi is the brains behind these horrific abuses. She's hopeful she will be held as accountable as the Franke parents, including the father.

[@eileenmcdonald1599]

Sadly this video may help ruby get off by claiming she was being controlled by jodi. Which is bad for those kids. Ruby has had this issue long before Jodi was in the picture.

[@khfan9437]

@@eileenmcdonald1599 um no, simply saying she was “being controlled” by someone to do evil things (unless there is actual /life-threatening proof/) is not a get-out-of-jail-free card, lol.

[@jungkooksbananamilk1646]

I hate the mom so much for hurting her children and using them for clout!!!

[@pam751]

She doesn't deserve to be called mom, I refer to her that woman..

[@ritamariekelley4077]

I live in Utah, not of the predominant religion. I am concerned that our corrupt attorney general, Sean Reyes might not prosecute this case as it should be. There's this tendency in Utah to handle cases internally within the church. Social Services failed these children all along. It has echoes of that case where the father blew up the house, killing both of the children. Social Services missed red flags in that tragic case.

[@millsykooksy4863]

this woman almost killed her own children, she's completely insane. those poor kids!

[@getgaymin]

exactly. those kids are lucky to be alive

[@emmafrancis8704]

I believe that Kevin knew. Considering there’s some reports of him taking Chad out of the house when he separated. He might not be as bad as ruby but he definitely played a part. All of these kids deserve peace, privacy and respect. And I pray that they get that soon

[@lisablack6275]

What a brave little boy. This is heartbreaking.

[@alicialawhun91]

I watched the clip of the episode of when the oldest son had to sleep on a bean bag for months and I saw the rage in her eyes. I got the weirdest sense from that glare. Pure evil. What those children went through has me sick to my stomach. And Kevin knows everything that went on. He had a hand in some of it. But if he didn't٫and I'm just saying٫ how do you stand by and let someone do something so horrific to your children٫ the most precious and beautiful gifts you are supposed to protect from harm?

[@stacyeandrew2]

@@be2cre8 do you have a link I can’t find it

[@gehudon]

I saw that clip too and wow she should rage all right. He was probably punished after that one. Poor guy who called the cops was choked up bad poor guy!! But any true human would be! He was was terrific! 🥰😍😘

[@swedishmeatball4382]

@@stacyeandrew2 The channel is called Mormon Stories Podcast

[@alicialawhun91]

@@gehudon That man broke my heart. All those neighbors knew something was going on for years.

[@czgamesnik]

The bag was C choice. He had choice bag or guest room, he selected the bag. The main problem was, he was not allowed to sleep in same room as R, as R starting to pullute from the beating he got from C all time. C like become bully, he was too expelled from the private schoold for same behaviour.

[@noreenhill5826]

Why must a child sue the parent? The state should do it on the child's behalf! Totally mind blowing!

[@yayaaabunni]

People have been calling this out all over KZbin for a long time I’m just glad she is finally getting the consequences for her actions.

[@jeannemarie5908]

Thank you for this interview. I was livid when I learned of the SA accusations Ruby accused her child of .. ugh! I am so glad to know the children have time & opportunity to hold their mother accountable for her behavior.

[@johnnydepp-Dv50]

You're absolutely right 👍❤

[@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334]

Bless this man for getting this kid some help instead of dragging him back to his abusive parents.

[@schewitt1977]

I hope she gets the maximum punishment. She played the perfect wife and mother in 2015 and it started to shine through in 2019 or so my heart is with those kids.

[@khfan9437]

Me too. Max punishment is 90 years in prison-15 years per charge. I kind of doubt she will get that long, but keep in mind that even HALF that is 15 years more than what Danny Masterson from That 70’s Show got!! She is goooone! xD

[@sunflower45665]

​@@khfan9437It's not 15 years per charge. The maximum jail time for a second degree felony, regardless of the amount, in Utah is 15 years.

[@khfan9437]

@@sunflower45665 You’re still wrong. I just looked up the official law. The maximum possible total prison sentence for charges like these in Utah is 30 years. Section 401 of the Utah Criminal Code states: "If a court imposes consecutive sentences, the aggregate maximum of all sentences imposed may not exceed 30 years imprisonment.” I was wrong too, but they’re probably going to get 25-30 years. What you said would make literally zero sense to make someone who’s MUCH worse in their charges serve the same amount as someone with only 1 felony…Glad that’s not actually the case.

[@jv-ep2tc]

I never knew who she was prior to this arrest. But having looked back at some of the clips that were on her channel it astonishes me that she had a large following. She has one of the worst personalities I’ve ever seen. She’s just so annoying and uninteresting. Why anyone would want to watch her do or say anything is beyond my comprehension. It will be interesting to see what becomes of her husband. Clearly he knew what he was married to.

[@raynaemurray]

And for me I wonder how many of those subscribers were inspired to treat their children how she treats hers. People like this are incredibly dangerous

[@laurenmay2098]

Me too, never heard of them.

[@mwwkwnwkm]

most were hate watchers. mass disliked. usually just to make fun of her but nobody rly expected smth this bad

[@Nursing609]

Exactly that is what I said How could they continue to support this wack job!! And most knew what she was doing. And kept watching !!!

[@jv-ep2tc]

@@Nursing609 even neighbors knew. during the 911 call the neighbor said "there were problems at the house" or something along those lines.

[@ninastanek3388]

Thank you so much for this interview! I really hope the children will speak out and tell the court what happened and who was involved.

[@ferraroannie4058]

I still cannot fathom how there were people who actually WANTED to watch her "mommy vlog". 2.2 million people were clearly in desperate need of a life. 🙄😒🤮

[@devhelen5895]

It's simple. It's confirmation bias for a cult.

[@lastdays8500]

A few of us from the start had a different Ruby. That's why.. Since this has gotten more and more attention by people who didn't even watch or know who they were up until now.. People are quick to judge without realising a lot of us noticed the difference in her behaviour, etc and weren't for it nor enabled it. A lot of us started spamming the Connexions channel as well warning them about what they were doing! We heard about Rubys own brother who called Jodi out etc that many don't know about still..

[@MarG1809]

I used to watch it a long time ago when they started. I stopped when i started seeing red flags. I thought she was very selfish and too harsh but never imagined she was this crazy. Few years later saw some video with Jody and i thought both were out of their mind! They seem brainwashed and make absolutely no sense!!

[@jennylistens6135]

A lot were watching the train wreck I’d say

[@BMarie774]

I watched. I watched every video, closely, and multiple times. Why? Because we’ve been gathering evidence for years that’s fine ignored by that county (DCFS and police).

[@Annsunshine30]

The dad never protected them or stopped what she was doing. They have been called the worst family on KZbin for several years now!

[@saraha319]

What did the daughter do to punish her? If she is blaming her son like that! She’s so evil even the way she spoke to her kids is disgusting! There are literally people out there who are crying to have babies and she was blessed with 6 and did this! May she never see those kids or the light of day. Ever!

[@wendy833]

I told my grandmother something that her man friend had done to me, several times. She said i was lying. I was 11. My uncle tore her a new one and said what does she know about her anatomy? My grandma said nothing. He said then how is she explaining to you what happened? Listen to your children and put your phone down! Play with them!

[@jenniferfriesen7691]

I’m so sorry that happened to you and so glad your uncle was not going to let it be swept under the rug.

[@khfan9437]

Wow I really hope she apologized to you later in life, and if she didn’t, I hope you made it clear she was deservedly hated

[@mustlovedogs5569]

It’s not on late

[@wendy833]

@khfan9437 I'm way into my 50's now. She passed away when I was in my 20's. Never apologized, that wasn't her way.

[@khfan9437]

@@wendy833 Hm, well hopefully she at least eventually believed you

[@Ryka1100]

I’m a child of Mormon upbringing, my parents were nothing like Ruby, but so much of what she says triggers me. The religious shaming, controlling by fear of god. There is no real protection for kids in that environment. I remember having regular meetings with my bishop on my own and the questions almost felt groomy. Parents hand over parenting to men who have no real idea what’s going on in your life and that always felt off to me. As soon as I had a daughter, I jumped ship, there was no way I was going to allow a bunch of men who don’t know her telling her what to do. A lot of what Ruby says sounds like the regular Mormon rhetoric, makes me sick.

[@Plootyhooter]

Religion was a great way to control people hundreds of years ago but these days people are turning away from it in droves. It's possible to be a decent human being without a church telling you what to do and think.

[@karenjanusch7978]

Good for you! I understand leaving a religious community is traumatizing, strength and love to you and your daughter!

[@west1025]

Ben needs to represent these children! He will 1000% get justice for these children!!!!

[@sweethistortea]

This woman does not deserve the title of mother.

[@Carol-Bell]

Thanks to Ben for his input. Its refreshing to hear things from a purely legal standpoint, which cuts through all the emotions and hype.

[@stevegoodliffe4351]

I think RF just wants to punish the child for escaping and causing her to be arrested -‘if I’m alone in prison so will you be…’ sort of idea It speaks volumes of her warped character