Making 577 Snider brass from Magtech 24 gauge brass shotshells

This is how I make .577 snider ammunition out of Magtech 24 gauge brass shotshells.

[@ryanlemons7831]

It is so nice to watch a KZbin video and not have to sit through a fucken safety meeting before, during and after. When I saw that powder on the bench while you were annealing your brass I knew, that is one cool, level headed freedom loving dude right there. Thanks!

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you man! I always seem to get some safety ranger that’s eager to point out some “minor” breech of safety Etiquette.

[@ryanlemons7831]

@@Everythingblackpowder ​ @Jake Harris the safety rangers never fail to shock me. I always expect them to be some overly protective mother who's turned to the internet because her kids have grown, moved on and rarely call. But nope, shockingly, It is always always a full grown man (rather - full grown adult male). Men don't behave like grade school hall monitors. haha

[@Luzviminda777]

The recoil looked almost like modern nitro in speed , I've shoot big caliper smooth bore muskets here in Denmark and recoil felt like a push instead of a punch . If you get my foreign explanation... nice to be shooting with your ol' man .. that's life . God bless you both .

[@GIJeaux1]

Get a bucket of KFC to eat while you're resizing. Case lube? No problem.

[@sharonrigs7999]

I was lucky enough to find some old Dominion .577 brass at a flea market years back. They all chambered just fine. I never bothered to get dies. I just use a tapered wooden dowel that I made to slightly open the mouth just enough to accept a .60 cal round ball. I re anneal every couple years

[@johnmepham4413]

I like the way he points to the black powder container with the torch

[@Everythingblackpowder]

It was empty…

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Very elegant looking. I've seen someone make his own substitute .577 Snider casings by 3D printing them out of a blue TPU material, having like an upside down bottleneck shape inside, the thickwalled bottom having an embedded .38 Special casing to hold the primer and 60gr of Goex, with the large caliber lead projectile fitting on the wider end. Looks a bit odd, and holding a bare case you'd notice it's kinda squishy, but that squishy quality allowed it to obturate properly, and to also hold together and extract cleanly.

[@billrea66]

I purchased an 1870 Enfield and now want to play with it .Since I'm also a new reloader , makes sense to reload .577 .Ordered Lee die set today ( $ 175.99 ) now I need the brass,etc .

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Glad to hear it! They are a blast to shoot. Track of the wolf usually has .577 snider brass in stock if you can’t find 24ga Magtech brass.

[@Andy152R]

I bought my wife one in Afghanistan. I have shot it once. I just bought dies, bullet mold and have a machine shop at home to cut the shells. Thanks for the info!

[@sergeantbigmac]

Sorry if this is random, but what was the process and your experiences like on bringing a firearm home from a deployment? Like did you have to get approval from your CO, what was the bringback paperwork like and what kindve stuff got approved or rejected that you saw? Also where did you buy, did you like just stroll into an Afghani market and buy whatever shit you saw? Sorry ive just always been curious about that.

[@Andy152R]

@sergeantbigmac so, since it was classified as a curio and relic firearm, all I had to do was mail it home from the post office. The local nationals had a shop on base in Bagram. When I was getting ready to leave theater, we flew to Bagram for our flight home. I just bought it and mailed it home. No permission required. I picked up a Snider and a Martini Henry for $400. Both are authentic and not Khyber Pass copies. The Martini is a Royal Kabul Arsenal variety, so all markings are in Arabic. Pretty cool.

[@453421abcdefg12345]

How did those non solid head cases stand up to 120 grs? I have used the 24G cases for M-H 577-450 but they seem a little weak, and they need cleaning as soon as you shoot them as they cant stand much corrosion. That sizing wax is essential for case forming, but it seems to last forever, funny thing about the case trimming is that I always hold the case the other way round, I lodge the rim in one of the chuck jaw grooves. Stay safe! Chris B.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

The cases held up fine. The rifle stock, not so much…

[@JWheeler331]

Man those just look fun to shoot. That 120g charge looks like it packs a punch.

[@milsurpmarine8628]

12:36 Probably not a good idea to have a lit propane torch 12inches away from an open bottle of Pyrodex.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

@@milsurpmarine8628 what's life without a little risk???

[@rre9121]

Absolutely love shooting snider. I couldn't find any 24 gauge when mine came in, so I had to buy the machined brass.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

That works too

[@Letsgofishing911]

Well that 120 grain load will really get the meat.

[@larryclark9380]

Thanks for including the annealing process. I like the cordless drill with mandrel idea.

[@Recargasygambiarras]

Gostei muito do vídeo! Ganhou mais um inscrito!! 👍👏👏👏

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@kr6dr]

To achieve the ideal annealing temperature, you can use Tempilaq temperature indicating paint. Just a dot of the paint will melt at the desired temperature (usually 750f for cartridge brass), making it easier to get the desired softness without changing the chemical structure of the brass.

[@westcovinadodge]

I kink about one out of 5 when forming 577/450, it goes into the snider brass bucket. Thanks for the video and congrats on 5000 subs

[@vicroc4]

Probably need the big Lee .50 BMG cast press for those dies, I don't think the regular presses could hold them.

[@davefellhoelter1343]

Know!? I knever! have primed anything? "Un" Orthodox'ed?

[@Sman7290]

What's the velocity difference between the 70 brain and the 120 grain loads?

[@billrea66]

Gottem brass , waiting for .578 boolits. I have 1 factory ORIGINAL 1870 boolit . It measures 1.614" . I also have 5 reloads at from , 2.131"----- 2.445" in length ? The 5 will not fit the breech of rifle due to being too long .

[@davefellhoelter3299]

OMG! I forgot how much! your bench is as haz mat as mine? or looks like? Love the Smell of AMP in the Morning! Smells Like Good? Times!

[@brettduffy7931]

Thank you these are one of the few Firearms I can own and I know that the animals very hard to find now I can make it possibly

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Happy to help

[@brettduffy7931]

@@Everythingblackpowder dont tell doctor you own guns or or you many only own pre 1899 guns

[@davefellhoelter1343]

@@Everythingblackpowder If ONLY? I could grab hold of you. I have an idea for 45 projectiles right on the self in front of OUR eye balls! No one sees? from paper cartrage uses, to direct rammed! prices right, tested for speeds and power, but I am Too Lazy to film and/or must travel to far to test! OR "I WOULD!" Can't make the big Sandy this time round in your area?

[@AmericanBoy88]

Do you know you've got a shot with a shorter round because the back end is where the gas seal is not the whole entire bullet if you don't want your paper wads and yes I know this is a 3-year-old video😊

[@Mis-AdventureCH]

I love your sidekick off camera. "Fuk'n A....*maniacle laughter*" LOL

[@Everythingblackpowder]

We’re all just really excited to be living the dream

[@nigelkavanagh2048]

Brilliant vid sir! When you are making it look presentable please show us the process! 👏👍

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@Chookvw]

Where did you find a .585 minie? I just acquired a sergeants 2 band snider and am looking for a larger minie. Thanks.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I bought them from track of the wolf

[@tripplebeards3427]

I’d like to get some .779s…lol.

[@Ben_not_10]

Did you have any over pressure signs with the 120 grain charge?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Not that I recall

[@Sman7290]

Once the brass is fire formed to your chamber, instead of re-sizing it back down each time, see is the .600 Eras Gone bullet will fit it. I've seen where it will slide right in by hand. Since it is a single shot 12:37 rifle, you don't really need a crimp on it. You only really need the dies for the first loading.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I use a .600 bullet from X ring services

[@sogmalukem2745]

Why are loading benches always a total mess? tradition?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

It’s a lifestyle

[@Gunsmith-4570]

Did your Snider come from IMA and if you would say what grade was it?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I believe so. I bought it from a customer of mine who just used it as a wall hanger. It was pretty rough

[@brettduffy1992]

You could probably use plastic shells. And around ball.

[@vhfgamer]

Brass shells and minie balls are better. The plastic shells and round balls are for cheap and or lazy people.

[@kencurtis508]

Great video, thanks for sharing. Shoot mine regularly but only smokeless powder. Take care.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

What’s your smokeless load for 577 snider?

[@kencurtis508]

14 gr. 700X, 525 gr. Solid at .585 dia.from X-ring mould. Between three and four inch group at 50 yards every time. That’s from a long rifle and a Sargents model. I love it. I use modified sights. A Ross rear site and the front site from a Lee Enfield No.4. The sites don’t alter the rifle in any way and can be removed at any time. @@Everythingblackpowder

[@jimhayes7497]

also enjoying the amount of shit all over the bench

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Get used to it

[@mattshewchuk3949]

Hey where you form? where did u find the lead bullets?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I bought the .585s from track of the wolf and I cast the .575 myself

[@Brazilian.Off.Duty.Cop.]

Do you know any other cartridges that can be made from 12ga/20ga/28ga/410 shells?

[@billrea66]

How do you prime ? I tried putting primer on board , shell on primer then hammering shell down on primer gently but firmly . Didn't work ? primer went in on an angle .

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I have a priming arm on my old RCBS press

[@billrea66]

@@Everythingblackpowder , so do I ? Never thought of using IT though ?

[@TIEpilot918]

Is your rockchucker the original first series RC? I just bought one and I'm going insane trying to confirm it has the right threads.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

I don’t know. I think it was made in the 80s

[@TIEpilot918]

@Everythingblackpowder hey no worries, thanks for checking. The one I got on ebay just says "RC" on the side and it looks like it has the removable bushing like yours. I'm just trying to confirm I'm in the clear lol.

[@billrea66]

Well , got my brass cut to 2" , got me some GOEX fg powder ( his last pound ) , .578 boolits arrived today . Tomorrow I will anneal brass , size in LEE dies , lube and shape boolits , prime and charge and when it gets warm enough , go pew,pew,pew .

[@rosanna3765]

Hi. I know it's been 3 years since you posted this, but I finally got the courage to make my own. I usually buy 24G brass whenever I see it available and send it to a friend who does it for me, but I thought it was time for me to do it myself. Anyway, I cut the brass to 2 inches and annealed, although I not sure if I over did it. I formed the brass in the dies and that's where I'm at right now. They look alright and fit my Sniders, but your's look longer than 2 inches. Is that the right size?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

After mine are formed, I trim them to 1.90

[@Everythingblackpowder]

You can buy jigs on eBay for a mini saw to cut your 24 gauge brass down to 2 inch and your formed 577 brass to 1.90 inch. That’s the fastest and easiest way I have found.

[@rosanna3765]

@@Everythingblackpowder Thanks for the reply. Yes, I got one of those jigs. It cuts to 2 inches. It just looked longer on the video. I'll have to try them out on the range and hope I didn't over anneal them. I don't think I did, fingers crossed. BTW I love your videos.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Thank you

[@George_Lewis]

I've been on an "Everything Black Powder" binge since finding your channel a week ago. Thank you for making the annealing process so easy. I resize 45-70 brass to a shortened version of the 11.15x60R and lost several while shooting. I didn't anneal them and two cases split lengthwise just ahead of the web. This should solve the problem.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Glad to hear it

[@asherdog9248]

Don't drop that torch on that can of Pyrodex! 😉

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Don’t worry, it was empty

[@asherdog9248]

@@Everythingblackpowder I've never been one to resist an attempt at humor. Good video. I'm getting teady to make some Snyder ammo too.

[@billrea66]

Well , not knowing yer technique for primering , I picked up a piece of 1/4 " steel plate , set primer on it then shot shell lined up and using a 3/8" driver I hammered the shell down on the primer till it was flush . The third one went OFF with a BIG BANG ! Scared the doo-doo out of me and Wifie . So I have 20 to load tonite . Dipped in wax/crisco slurry , going to put in 65 gr of GOEX 1F powder , 10 with polenta filler and 10 with wad filler . Projectiles are .578 gr from Jet bullits .

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Excellent

[@loquat44-40]

During the annealing section I saw can of powder and what may have been other munitions on the bench. That combination never goes well with an open flame.

[@Everythingblackpowder]

Fear not, Captain Safety. I can assure you that it was empty.

[@mikemcneilly601]

What powder were you using for those snider cartridges?

[@Everythingblackpowder]

My homemade powder

[@mikemcneilly601]

@@Everythingblackpowder is your homemade powder smokeless or black powder. If black powder would it be 2f or 3f

[@Everythingblackpowder]

@@mikemcneilly601 black powder, 2F

[@mikemcneilly601]

@@Everythingblackpowder I’ve been using Goex 3F 62.5gr. Saw you got away with 120gr looked like a good kick. Do you know of any good reloading data on the snider

[@Everythingblackpowder]

@@mikemcneilly601 yeah, 120gr is pretty uncomfortable to shoot but I don’t have to use any wads or filler with that load and it’s pretty accurate.

[@johannesvanhoek9080]

What type of cutter did you use in your lathe to trim brass back.

[@453421abcdefg12345]

We usually use a parting tool, and if you grind the end at a slight angle it does no leave a burr.

[@azartoorani]

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[@azartoorani]

Kornogeraf m/S ???