Making A bow Out Of A Wooden Hockey Stick "WILL IT BOW" Ep. 6

[@tedbryer2512]

When We were young - its been a while - my grandfather got us to go out to the local arenas and pick up old hockey sticks. He taught us how to add a handle and laminate cow hide on the bows, make strings and arrows, how to tiller these bows and seal them up. They were a great little bow. I think the bows were made out of Hickory. We had a 3d coarse even before they were popular. Harvested grouse , rabbits and did some bow fishing with these. Mine didnt break and I still have it to this day. Thanks grandpa for introducing me to archery! Sixty years later and and I am still shooting!

[@benkegg8524]

Hi Kramer! I just wanna say that you have really inspired me to start making bows. I've watched all your vids and you make it so simple to understand. Keep doing what your doing and may God bless you.

[@CalloutWraith]

Other section, he inspired me to making Crossbows again ^^ for Larp and Hunting( as deco)

[@ParchmentKH77ftw]

I'd be fascinated to see your take on PVC bows! Do you have a recurve in the works?

[@freesk8]

I really want to see a comparision of your bows vs PVC bows. What if yours are only 10% better, but the PVC bows take 1/10 the time to make?

[@bryandavid192]

Depends on how you're making the pvc bow what your top end performance will be, but I can see that pvc can be good for training draw strength. Quick to make a high poundage bow with thick pipe. Problem is weight to performance ratio and uv degradation

[@theguywitheyebrows]

@@bryandavid192 i speak from 20+ years experience with pvc as a sprinkler system design and installer, i can say it retains flexibility and durability through over a week of high uv days in the SE NM desert where the sun melts paint off cars. i have a 45# pvc recurve, flings cane arrows with great force and carbon ones with great speed; paint helps with uv degradation but also if ya just don't let it sit in the sun for weeks it will be fine. also its lighter than my green fiberglass bear 'archery' youth bow, and far less handshock. they're a great option for a budget bow because of the resistance to literally everything else, they buckle before they break (never broke one myself), decently high powered longbows can be made with low cost equipment (pallet wood&screws works for forms) and be ready to shoot in minutes. hard to beat pvc for effectively arming large groups of archers. that being said, im dyin to find a feather glass hockey stick to follow along with kramer here, that bow is soo cool!! maybe not cooler than my recurve but id definitely make one if a stick showed up in my world.

[@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135]

And Kramer, one more thing. I have finished my bow for the season! It's a rawhide/ prairie rattler backed juniper. It's pulling about 63lbs at 28in. It has a greenwing teal silencer on the rest and a buckskin grip! Can't hear its shot! If you are on FB or a community id love to show you! Think about starting a FB group how cool would that be?

[@tobiasebastiantempella9792]

In the next episode make a recurve bow from the points of a pair of skis, I've seen that made so it might works

[@iColinCDN]

As a Canadian, I approve of the hockey stick bow :-) Awesome job eh !!! Thanks for sharing

[@merriman420]

Literally everytime you present a bow your tiller sticking think "when will he make a crossbow?"

[@Pigmaster6373]

love your work. Found you from ZNA Productions. Just got the notification... happy to be early.

[@momtom6196]

Enjoy watching your videos Kram! Great work. Love Mom:)

[@shanek6582]

I just watched a video where a guy said, “when a bow is at full draw it’s 9/10ths away from breaking”

[@WilliamNyberg]

Would that not be 1/10th away? (Unless that guy just makes some dang good bows..)

[@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135]

It is true. It just takes about a quarter of a an inch to violate the weakest fiber. If you have tillered a few times you'll notice there is a suden stop. That is your bow saying it's about to give. So sayith Jim ham in his novel " bows and arrows of the native Americans" exelent book check it out!

[@stich1960]

@@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135 great book

[@stich1960]

@@kramerammonsarchery It comes from the below mentioned book, Jim Hams original, totally worth the read.

[@smilloww2095]

@@WilliamNyberg you know what he means

[@ironfront9573]

Really appreciate the effort you put into that intro !

[@fezcarstuff5851]

Hey Kramer, I was wondering if you could do a video telling us how you got into bow making and archery as a whole and what it took you to get your shop to what it is at the moment.?? Maybe you could voice over you making a regular old bow and tell us the story or tell us the story while you’re doing it.

[@griffin5226]

When tillering, when do you choose to scrape over sanding?

[@beesmongeese2978]

i guess scrape is rougher but quicker

[@marcgardner9865]

I thoroughly enjoy watching people who are exceptional at what they do. You sir are amazing.

[@8bithavok]

I wonder if soaking the softwood with epoxy resin would mitigate some of its less desirable traits. Thanks for the upload, binged a ton of your videos today and now I've got a serious itch to make my own, but I have zero tools lmao.

[@onxd2092]

Hey Kramer! I'm a 18 year old boy in Brazil, enjoying a lot your videos. I have been building bows since i was 15. We don't have a lot of information about stuff like this, people here tend to care more about other stuff, so it's really hard for me to get some advices with the wood and material that we have in this side of the world. just wanted you to know that you are helping me to improve my way of thinking about building bows! thanks a lot!

[@Treeboy85]

I am really loving watching your videos. Right now I’m recovering from a surgery and they are really relaxing!

[@jonathantillian6528]

I was honestly waiting for the obligatory, "never tell me odds" utterance.

[@ParallaxSound315]

I just binged this series up to here today, and I'd love to see if you could try to make a bow from PVC/PVC pipe

[@ryanreynolds3630]

But you can..there's a million videos on that man

[@ParallaxSound315]

@@ryanreynolds3630 I specifically want to see HIM make a video on it

[@therealdeal3866]

@@ParallaxSound315 I kind of second this. Kramer has such innovative ideas, I'd love to see the spins he puts on it.

[@lw8553]

Love your work as always Kramer, where could we buy your bows? I’m sure you have a lot of people interested after watching and seeing what you can do

[@poptart35391]

Love your videos man. Keep it up. You're absolutely amazing

[@evanonion4339]

Make a dumpster diving bow😄😃. Meaning the materials you have to make it come from dumpsters. I think this would be so cool. Love your vids man!

[@flyingdutchman8371]

I have a few bow ideas you might like: 1.) A composite flat-bow with a thin panel of spring steel for the compression side and a thin panel of bamboo for the tension side 2.) A PVC recurve bow (I suggest 3/4" or 1" schedule 40 PVC with fiberglass driveway marker rods in the center) 3.) A composite Oak and Hickory bow 4.) A pure fiberglass tape bow 5.) A bow made of paper and resin

[@JoeyFlowers]

Ideas. >One of those kids riding pony stick things..plastic or wood? >Hardyplank wall siding >used trim from a house, >pvc pipe

[@michaelt6413]

I watch a skating channel. They do competitions where they go into random stores and make skateboards out of what they find. You could apply the same principle to making bows. Head into an IKEA or Walmart and buy something that's not a bow and make a bow out of it.

[@rugger8787]

Will it skate

[@ryanreynolds3630]

Braille ftw

[@trigtrigger9794]

Wooooop wooooop 😀 been waiting for you to get another video up!! Thank you

[@marksmedley4369]

I played hockey growing up. Sticks can crack internally in the shaft. Mostly they will crack at the heal, ( where the blade meets the shaft). Just a tip, once you cut off the blade, hold the stick in your hand like shooting a bow about 8 - 12 inches from the ground. Let it fall to the ground and listen for a thud or a “ring”. If you hear a thud sound the stick is solid if you hear a ringing sound then the stick is cracked. Cracks most likely will be on the side of the stick where the concave side of the blade as this is where most of the stress is when making a shot. You can also test the stick before cutting off the blade. I would say that chunk came out from the blade end of the stick This could be why that big chunk came out. If you ever make another hockey stick bow with a used stick keep that in mind. Not all used sticks will have cracks in them. Now I want to make one out of my old hockey stick.

[@jeremygeis3884]

YES!!! I'm super glad to see you "chance" it out and keep trying. :)

[@aeorling]

Random Internet banter to improve KZbin algorithmic shenanigans and stuff.

[@thein-tele-gent5654]

Raising the bar with each video. Kramer, you beauty. I'd love to see what you can create that would give an old chunky piece of furniture a second chance. Like a thick walled wooden cabinet, or a couch/bed frame (not new fibre board junk, but there has to be something looking to be repurposed at landfill, or at the end of someone's driveway. Thanks again for such awesome and entertaining videos!

[@Johny_5]

Oooh - will old furniture bow? I like the sound of this! :D

[@Robb_K]

Thanks for another wonderful video!

[@FT4Freedom]

Mega awesome production value.

[@LongBowMan89]

Kramer, First off great come back man !! The way that hockey stick was constructed. Couldn't have built any better !! Even more so with the glass *backing* plus the backset in the stave also is stellar. Heck just for kicks i might give a wood hockey stick give it a try !!. Over all couldn't have worked out any better. Wonder how taking two of the same brand and make and building a take down with them. Stay shatterproof my friend 🏹🎯🇱🇷

[@timfischbach77]

If i made a bow could i make a sight window on the right with an arrow rest rather than on the left if i am a right handed? I would like to know before i start trying to make it more historical and for maneuverability to pull and draw an arrow quickly in one motion.

[@bencullinan4419]

The whole if its not the right time thing man thats just incredible thats why I support you over all bow builders

[@cadegossett2653]

After 5 tries and fails at making a bow I’m finally making a really good one so far out of red oak!! And all thanks to you and your videos! Keep up the good work and maybe make some more coloured bow strings if you can!! I’d love to buy them!!

[@avrumisolaimani8546]

same except i failed at 6 bows but the red oak worked

[@cadegossett2653]

Kramer Ammons just a classic white and black or even all white would look dope! Or a dark red and black! But if you put out anything new I’m sure I’d love it!

[@thomascraig3694]

Hey, great videos. Love the channel. Can I get your playlist? You have really good taste in music

[@WoodPigeonOutdoors]

YES... DUDE.... My man that's what I'm talking about useing a SHERWOOD wooden hockey stick.. Old school Canadian stick right their... Love it... Sorry if I seem over enthused. But now I could use my old sticks and maybe some from the rink... By the way the "droite" written on the stick means "right" in French... Right handed stick... Awsome job by the way now lol how about them wooden skies

[@freesk8]

The problem is that wooden skis are rare and expensive these days! They are in demand for decorative uses in ski lodges. But broken wooden hockey sticks? Dime-a-dozen! :)

[@kynkadeoutdoors]

congratulations on the win finally. I knew you could figure it out. Look forward to your next in this series. Have you ever considered making a bow out of a pair of wooden canes?

[@vadimsimon5453]

Fantastic! That's a very good one! Try to make a bow using only arrows and duct tape, please

[@wallacev2267]

Hey little brother, I enjoyed your video and the enthusiasm you have for making bows. You are like a mad scientist when it comes to making bows. Can’t wait to see the outcome of your product, like what is it going to be! You are by far the best entertainer and instructor of all the videos I have watched on bow making. You have taught me so much and encouragement to never give up, keep bow making. Your brother in Christ for ever. WRV

[@matts375]

I had that exact stick as a kid playing hockey. Props.

[@sigmanarchery54]

That’s pretty cool nice job 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸

[@tannerwillis3701]

Congratulations on 100k!

[@thebesttennisplayer5693]

thanks kramer you help me with my archery a lot

[@klintonesplin8061]

Love these. You should try to make a bow out of Ram horns.

[@FT4Freedom]

I use axe, hatchet, knife, rasp, sandpaper. I carve the bow to general form before drying. I steam it immediately then dry the bow on a simple straightening board in the cab of my truck. Rocky Mountain Juniper shortbow with sinew backing. I tiller the bow on the floor and on a branch. I take my time. In the shade on sunny days or by the campfire at night. Short draw length Comanche style 46" just a bit long. But I'm tall.

[@trentneal4219]

Hi Kramer!! Do you think a round 1"1/4 closet rod would make a decent bow???

[@ralphburch5815]

Gr8 build, Kramer! I am curious. What did you come up with for a draw weight at that 23 inch draw? You didn't mention it in the video.

[@cheeseymann]

Awesome video bud, time to try to make a bow from a railroad tie

[@lshn8457]

Your edits are always so dope and clean! What software are you using?

[@tristindalton4238]

draw knife, hand plain, and a rasp lol my go-to wood shaping tools

[@Fynn-Victus]

I wonder if shovel handle repair tape would be a decent bow backing

[@kjwd40]

Do you think a PVC backing bow would work, You know like cutting a PVC pipe in 1/2 heat it up and flaten it out and glue it on?

[@stafdehat]

They way you filled that gouge with resin & wood fibers made me wonder - could you make an entire bow that way? For Will It Bow - think you could make a bow using only resin/glue and the shavings from other bows?

[@aaronjackson5453]

Kramer, Your videos are very helpful and informative! Thank you! I have a couple questions -Could I make a R/D bow with ipe belly and hickory backing? -Can I use Titebond III for laminating them together or is EA-40 the best? - If hickory does work, how thick should it be? Tapered like the bamboo or just flat the whole length of the bow, like 1/8”-3/16”? Thanks so much, I have learned a lot from you! :)

[@elguapo5857]

Loving your channel more and more every upload !!!!! Thnxs for errthang man

[@lionezekai9799]

Hey bro... love your videos! I think that if there’s one thing that is missing from your channel it’s videos on making DIY quivers! I believe you can make some awesome quivers man. I’m looking for some ideas myself, maybe I’ll sent you a picture one day with a quiver I will make. Peace from Argentina.

[@alexislalonde3896]

Would hot wheel tracks make a good bow backing?

[@tymcg5943]

Cool vid guy, keep chin up. You've helped me in a couple bows now

[@bogdanmoldovan3555]

Thank you for the inspirational videos. I am a 143 pounds guy and 5.5 feet tall and despite this I am looking into heavy bows (war-bows) and would like to make one rather than purchase it. Would you be up to such a challenge? I could use some pointers. Thanks mate. Abyssinia.

[@abryant5258]

I love your content... I've been thinking of making unique risers for fun... You're inspiring me

[@uuhhhhhhh4574]

I really wanna make my own bow I just have to start it haha. I think it would be really cool to see you make a bow out of an old boat - a lot of small boats are wood/fiberglass

[@davidzellers3537]

I have a idea for will it bow! Take a long boat ore/ paddle and see it it will bow!

[@darrinrebagliati5365]

Back it with a slice of one of the composite sticks?

[@kreedBENjamIN]

Love the intro bro

[@skwashua]

How about a bow from skis? Alpine and/or cross country.

[@cuddlyfish1]

"will it bow" video idea. flatten out some PVC to use as backing for a bow, as some people make bows via PVC. This would be a fusion that many wouldn't think of trying.

[@logantennant8831]

Great video can’t wait for the next one

[@RJKYEG]

Once hockey stick manufacturers started using fibreglass for reinforcement there was no going back, though there may still be some solid wood sticks out in the world. Sherwoods like that used aspen cores, older solid sticks were normally maple. Using a Sherwood model like that is a good heritage move, the PMP 5030 model is still for sale today - just imagine, there was a time when that stick - inexpensive as it is, was the stick the pros were playing with. If I were to make it a generational thing I would make a bow out of a Jofa Titan.

[@vladanstojanovic91]

Great video! I laughed at the and. :D Greetings from Serbia. :)

[@Havazik]

My name is Trevor and the first line freaked me out a bit not gonna lie.

[@cowboy4378]

Thanks for your first name. I just need you middle and last name. I will also need your credit card number, the four digits on the back and the name of your family pet.

[@Astartes40k]

Music titles please :)

[@tamaskatona6147]

[10:53] Bonnie Grace - The Norman Kings [13:44] Jon Sumner - Colliding Paths

[@benraya9405]

I kinda need help with my bow... and just by watching how u Macgyver your solution, I might got an idea.

[@benraya9405]

@@kramerammonsarchery gotta to send u some pics on IG

[@liamwilgar1914]

As far as material recommendations; I thought it might be a fun challenge if you tried to make a bow from - ANOTHER BOW STAVE! Now it sounds a little dumb at first, but I mean could you for example take old worn out adults bow and work it down into a small Children’s bow? I figure the worn material would be ideal for lowering the draw weight for a newbie kid shooting their first bow? :)

[@TGHFIL]

Was wondering with a 4 foot piece of wood can i make a bow out of it? Also what poundeg would it be or could it be.

[@JETBLACKPRIEST]

Whether or not the bows end up shooting arrows at the end of the video doesn't make the video any worse in my opinion, I could easily see alot of people trying to make bows out of the stuff you've tried and just to know that it might be a real prick but it's possible or it's not worth trying at all is super valuable information to me and I'm sure alot of people, that being said the intro was pretty entertaining, keep up the good work man, been watching for a while and I'm gonna try to make myself a bow soon, had the material sitting there (Tasmanian oak, not sure how well it will work) but I've been procrastinating on it, these videos motivate me to kick my ass into gear and start working on it

[@Gadsdentreadlightly]

Could we get a bigger vertical wallet? I like the vertical wallet design, it's all I carry actually. But what I've been wanting is a vertical wallet that will hold cards horizontally. Because I have to carry a ton of cards for work and life.

[@ParchmentKH77ftw]

Keep up the thumb peace! It's a cool signature!

[@islandmadecatapults7614]

Love your videos man! I’ve built many board bows as a kid and younger fella. haven’t made a bow in about 10 years but I’m going to make another one here soon and I’ve always wanted to make a tri-laminated all wood bow. Wondering if you’ve thought of this and if so what your thoughts are. I’m thinking a thin hickory backing, red oak core, and a maple belly. All common hardware store wood. And as long as the grain is nice and straight on the backing I think it would help out if there other layers has some flaws. Just wondering your thoughts on it.. Thanks! And God bless. Love your content! Keep doing what your doing

[@Johny_5]

Nice recovery from the bad split Kramer! Have you got any tips on rescuing a bow where the belly grain has started overlapping from the compressive forces?

[@Johny_5]

@@kramerammonsarchery Thank you kindly for the response! I feared as much, but hoped maybe there was a trick I hadn't thought of :D Guess I'd better get on with making more bows before this one needs retiring then!

[@Johny_5]

@@kramerammonsarchery All good - thanks your entertaining and inspiring vids to keep me company :)

[@wibblywobblyidiotvision]

It could only be a Sher-Wood stick. Robin Hood ahoy.

[@FleshEatingBeagle]

The fiberglass hockey sticks have something called “flex”... 50lbs of flex etc... It’s so players can push down on the stick and have extra spring when shooting. How would that work as a bow? Would it improve draw weight?

[@MaxDad7]

Next Will it Bow, maybe try your hand doing a PVC bow?

[@chris1ado358]

Just asking again as I did on another video, with the cheap board bow builds would it be possible to add reflex to the tips with heat? Or would the bow break?

[@chris1ado358]

@@kramerammonsarchery thanks, if I can make one that doesn't feel like it's gonna snap I'll give it a try haha

[@JReed305]

Looking forward to getting my black vertical wallet.

[@lirnerpublishingnotes]

great job

[@josephgomes8543]

Kramer, have you made a recurve? Although I am over 6 ft. tall I would like a recurve for hunting. My theory is it would be easier to draw at the start of the draw and my bad shoulder could handle it better. I plan to try the red oak long bow after watching your vid yesterday. I have the wood here already....(You and I have similar draw length) Metal or wooden arrows???

[@karenmurray3098]

that looks like an apachy horse bow ? another great video

[@AeroPointIndustries]

The funny thing is that I would never guess that used to be a hockey stick. It's like it was meant to be a bow.

[@unclejay9205]

That bow in the thumbnail looks piiiiiimp

[@rubywarrior1]

what was the ending poundage? i never was a hockey fan, (i despise the cold). but i am now seeing it in a new light.. hmmmm

[@fritzdixxon6071]

3m worktunes for the win. Bluetooth range may not be the greatest but only having to charge them once a week is amazing

[@Ace-zb5xr]

Good job! Not every bow has to be your max draw length. Who's Trevor? Did I miss his introduction in an older episode?

[@tuinarchitect.]

You should try to make a bow out of normal plywood and jeans as backing

[@shellyvandevord6063]

What was the poundage of your hockey stick bow

[@richoney5489]

Yes on the last hockey stick attempt I was like... he needed a SherWood Coffee... my slap shot of choice can't believe I missed this one... commenting early... we'll see what happens.

[@lucashayes6005]

Hey Kramer, I am making my first board bow using a popular board. Any tips?

[@lucashayes6005]

It’s my first board bow. I have attempted to make one out of an aspen in a local forest.

[@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135]

I'd suggest trying a different wood. Maple, oak, walnut, and locust boards should be available. I'll tell you 2 secrets! If it's a broad leaf it's most likely a hardwood, if it's an evergreen most likely soft. Hard or soft has no reflection of bow performance. Pacific yew and Rocky mountain juniper can be scratched with a thumbnail. But I assure you those are some of the best. I'd try as many different as you can get your hands on. Let me know how that poplar works.

[@lucashayes6005]

Thanks for the advice!

[@garrisonh]

sneaky bow...cool beans