Making Platinum Dioxide from Chloroplatinic acid (Adam's catalyst)

Turning platinum into its oxide is more involved than most metals. A molten nitrate bath should help it out, or does it?
We are following this demo: www.orgsyn.org/demo.aspx?prep=...
The platinum dioxide is a precursor to Platinum black

[@ExplosionsAndFire]

ALL GLASSWARE ARE QUEENS

[@Rhodanide]

IF THEY'RE PYREX, THEY'RE A THOOOOOOOOT

[@olivertoth6788]

Rhodanide what about deschem

[@franglish9265]

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[@benjaminpainter378]

Onion is Queen

[@dragonskizi7681]

If they seize... they’re a THOOOOOTT!!!

[@rogerdotlee]

..."and heat the ever lovin' shit out of it!" I've missed you, man.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Aw it's always good to post a vid, thanks man

[@williamackerson_chemist]

The best part about working with these rare salts is that the price forces you to work with incredibly small quantities which takes skill.

[@JayEffW]

>it's been 3 weeks >broken vial from the chloroplat still lying there on the table I expected no less

[@Jawst]

I have a catalytic cigarette lighter, and it is about 120 years old! I read somewhere that it contains platinum black! It contains a tiny 2.5 mm black irregular shaped ball, which is suspended in the middle of a mesh of 6 strands of 0.1mm titanium wire! This is inserted in a tube of cotton soaked in methanol and selfignites!

[@TheChemicalWorkshop]

As for Platinum, we needed some and after asking 20+ jewelry shops finally someone sold us junky platinum alloy quite cheap, it was about 180 miligrams of platinum (total volume was 220 or so) for about 6 euros

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

that's a pretty good deal I reckon!

[@ScrapScience]

Awesome stuff! It's really too bad that platinum is so expensive, it'd be so nice to have lots of it. Guess we just have to wait for that asteroid platinum mining business to take off, then we'll have the stuff everywhere.

[@olivertoth6788]

rhodium is even worse and its really a shame cause it's got a fascinating coordination chem, similar to chromium and cobalt (unsurprisingly)

[@asmolbean9300]

When we gonna discover dilithium 😭

[@asmolbean9300]

When we gonna discover dilithium 😭

[@hotmailcompany52]

don't worry they'll only sell small amounts to stop the price from crashing. Or they'll do what they did with diamonds. Just gotta love capitalism and min-maxing profit :)

[@bakedbeings]

@@hotmailcompany52Yeah, same as they did with aluminium.

[@chemistryscuriosities]

"Chloroplatonic acid" lol

[@ChEMIKNEPSPP]

*So no we know what is the tonic made of*

[@TheGayestPersononYouTube]

“Yeah there was some chlorine involved but we were just friends”

[@kjpmi]

The Gayest Person on KZbin god damn it! You beat me to it. I was gonna say the exact same line. I was even laughing about it in my head for the past 10 minutes.

[@elephystry]

I bet it was a _caustic_ relationship!

[@HashFace253]

@@elephystry niicee

[@FritoParadox]

once he adds the water my first thought was "oh no, it's yellow" lol

[@NeneExists]

You know things are off to a strong start when it's yellow before the reaction starts

[@nikolaiturcan6963]

I love how many times you play the distorted version of mad world, i expect it anytime now.

[@Rhodanide]

Chloroplatonic acid. Feels bad, man.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Hey platonic acids can still be fulfilling

[@TomsLab]

Almost as bad as catalictic

[@charliemallindine8164]

Extractions&Ire yeah I find when your feeling basic they are some of the first to help you out

[@jeanlafitte268]

5:59 "Once molten the mix gives off NO fumes... " and let me finish that sentence off for you "at which point I realized that a fume hood isn't just a noisy nuisance and I should have done this where there is one."

[@ProfaneGod]

and to fully finish the sentence "because platinosis is a very bad thing to get"

[@dave9401]

@@ProfaneGod 💀💀💀

[@gabriellay2022]

Radical experiment great detail thank you so much

[@googleeatsdicks]

Nickel might also work as a catalyst. It is not as effective but because it is so cheap you can use lots of it. Very fine nickel can be made by decomposing nickel oxalate with heat.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Nickel is known to a lot of people as 'poor man's platinum'. It is always better when you can replace Pt with Ni

[@jonadams8841]

@@ExtractionsAndIre I approve of your lab hygiene. You say it’s been several weeks since the initial cook off of the chloroplatinic acid, and the still shattered shipping ampule is safely there.

[@Metallica4Life92]

4:40 *yellow chem bad*

[@terawattyear]

Great to see you back Tom. Interesting reactions here. At least Pt has gone under $800 US these days. I keep hoping the price will go lower and I can stock up on some Pt labware.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

It's sad that I broke my rough upload schedule long enough 'to be back'. Ah anyway, yes it's always great to see the platinum price failing. Quite different chemistry, and the metal would just be such a useful thing to have around the lab

[@HeaanLasai]

Amazing! Dropping a comment for statistics.

[@xenomancer1]

*a wild chemplayer appears* QUIT TOYING WITH MY EMOTIONS!

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[@AllChemystery]

Very nice! i was wondering when you would get to the Pt chemistry.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Took me a lot longer than expected!

[@jeanlafitte268]

3:39 Here in the US, if someone sells you an ampoule of a highly reactive chemical enclosed in a clear bag, generally you take it over to your fume hood, get set up for your reaction, then open the thing still in the bag by smacking one side of it with a hammer.(unless it's highly reactive with polythene or something, in which case you party on with a hacksaw as you do)..

[@robmckennie4203]

Good video, always good to find new chemistry channels. You mention a main channel, what's that one called?

[@ExplosionsAndFire]

Thanks mate! The other channel is called Explosions&Fire2! kzbin.info

[@bakedbeings]

That's what they call "foreshadowing", soldier.

[@deepra_]

So grateful I can do XPS lol.

[@kaisersose5549]

3 1/2 weeks later, and the broken ampule is still on the lab table.

[@damanifesto]

Excellent video. Is it a good substitute for Raney nickel in certain reactions?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

1:1 it is probably better (although I haven't had experience running a metal reduction really) but the cost of using stochiometric Pt is just so excessive. So Pt tends to be catalytic and Ni isn't, so perhaps they can be exchanged, perhaps not

[@TheRolemodel1337]

Thanks

[@AussieChemist]

Ummmm... Are you still going to give a try for the fulminating Platinum tho?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Yeah that's the main channel video. Still kinda trying...

[@elephystry]

Extractions&Ire Did it work?

[@Finnnicus]

6:10 nice

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

blaze that platinum

[@jamessilly6837]

4:40 $50 scrambled egg.

[@ChertyKid]

You can use a jewelers oven for heating

[@Speedsoda]

11:46 nah, the glass breaks because it's a molten potassium salt. Glass, as some may know, is made by fluxing silica with "soda", or sodium. That allows the silica to form a viscous semi molten mass which is easy to work with. Same with borosilicate, except there's also some boron oxide in it. Anyway, potassium is also a very active glass flux. It'll change the glass composition when it's molten. The hotter it gets, the more active it gets. This will screw up the glass' properties and throw the finely thermal expansion properties of the borosilicate glass waay off. It'll only do it to a certain depth though. So you'll have one layer with a modified thermal expansion bonded to the original one. Naturally, it's not gonna hold together at some point.

[@PaulSteMarie]

Do they not have triangular files in Australia? Score around that vial and give it a light tap.

[@jeanlafitte268]

2:41 I just noticed what looks like spallation marks on your greenboard. Solving stubborn human relations problems with explosives there?

[@TreatmentShock]

Question! Only a basic understanding of chemistry here. How does the platinum go from having (presumably) six single bonds with the chlorine to (presumably) only two double bonds with the oxygen? Does this mean there was a change in charge or something?

[@markobabic487]

It has to do with orbital hybridization. Its a bit complicated but basically they have multiple valences.

[@calumknott450]

Mix with aluminum powder for absolutely wild thermite ??

[@hans429]

Wont give you anything... better take potassium permanganate...

[@tehlaser]

On the pump!

[@feelinghealingfrequences7179]

cool music

[@piranha031091]

Nice! Do you plan to do any hydrogenations with it? You could do toluene to methycyclohexane and the likes!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

I could do that! Or perhaps benzene? Or maybe, even better, naphthalene to tetralin??

[@piranha031091]

Oh, yeah, that last one would be really cool! Naphtalene's easy to get, and tetralin is a useful high-boiling solvent. You could even make decalin!

[@robmckennie4203]

Pretty sure this guy's voice coach is matt parker

[@rizendell]

I would have just put the orange cake in a little cupil with some flux and melt it into a bead of metal in my blast furnace, but what do I know about pyrometalurgy or chemistry

[@guy8968]

good yellow

[@Christopher.Marshall]

How safe is it to heat nitrates? I could be wrong, but the platinum is not changing oxidation states so the Pt complex isn't a reducing agent for the nitrate. Does heating without a reducing agent make this a relatively safe process?

[@theterribleanimator1793]

This is chemistry m8, you have to be willing to lose a few thinger or an eye.

[@jhyland87]

Did you have H3O written on the board? (Not H2O?).. Had to Google it, "Hydronium"

[@ThePaulPyro]

#bravesoldier

[@israelburkett8575]

That is some really expensive yellow chemistry..... yellow is still shit though

[@idea-shack]

Is 1g platinum bullion not sold in Australia? It's pretty simple to toss it into aqua regia and boil it down. Don't see why you need to order from Aliexpress. Long waiting time + higher cost.

[@giovannigliddon6682]

Used in drug manufacture so they only sell in ounces and above for some reason.

[@Pablo668]

Hmmm, not sure I've ever heard anyone associated with chemistry say 'she'll be right' before.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

I say it every reaction and I'm a terrible chemist, so, that makes sense

[@christopherleubner6633]

For future reference you can open these vials reliably with a small tubing cutter. Just go slow through the plastic and once the glassgets scribed snap it open 🤓

[@dr4win9f00l]

4:40 FORBIDDEN SMOOTHIE 🥤🥤🥤

[@carolinehart9860]

It's just before Gold !! In the periodic table

[@olivertoth6788]

I guess no successful platinum boom booms since last week? Still a great vid though, I missed your content man

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

not quite :(

[@olivertoth6788]

Extractions&Ire awn well you've recovered the platinum so at least you can still make E&I complexes with it

[@owentan6322]

one of the important property of platinum is: It is expensive

[@jeanlafitte268]

0:47 Did you just say "chloroplatonic acid"? Is that for chemists who don't want intimate relationships with their reagents?

[@fleurdepapaye9635]

Hydrogen gas can be produced by dissolving Aluminum foil in caustic NaOH solution. Wanna see the reaction of your PtO2 with the H2 gas. :) *you have a cool KZbin channel

[@bimbumbamdolievori]

Aaaaahem..such beautiful DREADFUL YELLOW..

[@robmckennie4203]

It's funny you would say that 1 gram of that chemical is about $50, it's not like it's pure platinum, but one gram of pure platinum would be less than that lol

[@RobPollen]

Don't you own a Bunsen burner ?

[@ahmetselcuk1400]

P2np reduction???

[@CrazyNerdInventor]

The yellow chemistry has attacked again.

[@burgersnchips]

Yellow!

[@VaeVictisXIII]

"Shit solider" HAHA

[@trouty7947]

Forbidden American imitation cheese

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Aphex Twin?

[@wellingtonbruh3756]

The title is some words alright. Yes.

[@scraptactics2993]

Didn't bet on that bog roll becoming a precious commodity worth more than platinum did you?

[@billsmathers7787]

Why didn't you make the chloroplatinic acid from platinum metal? Nurdrage has a good video on it, and it's a lot more cost effective (1g of platinum is like 40 bucks)

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Good question. The price was good and it saved me a bit of time, but also I could never find like small amounts of Pt to buy, it was always at least a few grams and I couldn't afford the upfront investment at the time

[@billsmathers7787]

Aren't 1 gram bullion bars available on ebay for you? They're very available here.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

@@billsmathers7787 they all seem to come from the states which adds like at least $30 of postage on them at least (which seems unfair for 1 gram of something...)

[@David-fh6rr]

How about platinum wire? You could buy it in small quantities.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

That tends to be quite expensive per gram of platinum i've found

[@Antipix3l]

Oh, it's a Chemplayer reference XD ! :c ,_,

[@fano72]

The yellow is so beautiful, sorry! XD

[@skizzlemane1]

No fume hood? No one is concerned about platinosis?! The symptoms can take years to appear but I guess if your ok I should be less afraid to work with the compound when refining precious metals 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mowskii5791]

Time for some hydrogenations!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

What do I hydrogenate??

[@mowskii5791]

@@ExtractionsAndIre Maybe benzene?

[@Rhodanide]

*_NO_*

[@Rhodanide]

Idk why I said no. It's 2 in the friggin morning gimme a break

[@olivertoth6788]

Mowskii GOOOOD STOP BEING SO ORGANIC

[@eewls]

THE RUSTY SAW

[@mrchangcooler]

Shouldnt you have something like a bunsen burner and a crucible to do this reaction? I'd imagine a burner could easily get 500C. One thing actually that I find interesting is in these amateur labs I never see a bunsen burner used ever while in school use of a burner was fairly commonplace.

[@elephystry]

What do you do with broken glass?

[@nunyabisnass1141]

Eat it

[@FlatBroke612]

Broken glass in the pooper

[@cvspvr]

sacrifice it in the shrine of the fallen glasswares

[@andrewvogel5344]

Bro when you flashed brave soldier on the screen I started laughing then the 2nd time I laughed again .....then when it said shit soldier after you said it broke I lost my shit dropped my phone laughed till I had tears picked up my phone seen the screen had a crack and immediately said to my phone "shit soldier"..... Thanks bro

[@tmfan3888]

why wont PtO2 react with H2SO4 or HNO3 to form respective salts？

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Not sure. It might be because it is Pt(IV), and simple salts seem to be Pt(II)? And it doesn't get reduced by acids? Not sure why it doesn't form Pt(IV) salts though?

[@deepra_]

Extractions&Ire how do you know you haven't formed any PtO?

[@hamoodhabibi4604]

This seems very painful

[@mrslinkydragon9910]

forbidden egg yolk

[@TheOverloaded1]

I was waiting for the tar ... lol

[@BrijeshPatel-ms4vh]

hi, i want to develop platinum catalyst alumina balls ( 3 -4 mm Dia). how i can coat activated alumina balls with platinum catalyst?

[@shazamshazamski4490]

You would have been better off (more cost effective) buying $50 worth of Pt (~1gm) and dissolving it in hot Aqua Regia and evaporating to dryness to get the H2PtCl6. Love from Canada (no homo). Be glad to mail you reagents you can't buy there.

[@ChEMIKNEPSPP]

*Platinum fulminate maybe?*

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Close but not quite

[@T-AXIS]

Sir , can you help me i collect 100 gm platinium from e-scrape but problem is this that after coupling pt when i melt this that make liquid so please help me thanks

[@Rhodanide]

>insert question about Pt fulminate here

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Sad reacts only

[@crooger3594]

If this costed 50dollars it would be cheaper to just buy 1g of platinum and make chloroplatinic acid yourself

[@fano72]

You invested in 1g PT compound and yielded only 0.3g of another, I wouldnt be happy.

[@cvspvr]

platinum oxide has a lower molecular weight than chloroplatinic acid so it's impossible to get a higher weight of it. 0.3g isn't bad

[@kevoramma]

*SHIT SOLDIER* , fucking hilarious.

[@David-fh6rr]

Pyridine to piperidine?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

oof that would be cool but better not

[@spiderdude2099]

You’re so frustratingly close mate. It’s chloro plat-IN-ic acid. You’re saying “platonic” it’s not platonic. It’s plat-IN-ic

[@zobrombie3023]

s h i t S o l d i e r

[@Hobypyrocom]

chemistry is somewhat boring if things dong go bang... maybe you can continue your explosions and fire videos on liveleak?

[@ExplosionsAndFire]

I've restarted Explosions&Fire on this channel, Explosions&Fire2! Subscribe or whatever yay

[@TheOriginalFaxon]

This video looked really great until it turned bright FUCKING YELLOW. yellow chems bad! good thing the plan is to decompose them XD

[@googleeatsdicks]

wourder

[@bludeat7398]

catalytic reductions.... hmmmm... I see why u need it ;)

[@christopherboulden4097]

Bro, yellow is =/> bad.