Making a CUSTOM Space Marines chapter (that doesn't suck)

[@HappyDuude]

For a laugh i just took a look at the hardware store for the names of house paints. Naming 50 types of off-white is am achievement by Dulux. When will we mini-painters get 'flaked almond' or 'dreamy truffle'

[@simonbirch5726]

I used to work at a dulux paint during my undergraduate days. The funniest colour name without a doubt was “Colonial White”. It has hence been officially renamed

[@charleswatson2605]

oh yes interior paint colors are wild.

[@GrimViridian]

​@@simonbirch5726 NO THEY DID NOT 🤣🤣🤣

[@sinisterplank3113]

Those blood angels would look epic with a black base rim

[@Kantohammer]

My process for creating my own chapter last year: 1. Pick a color scheme 2. Think about how to wedge them into the lore. Don’t forget to add some mystery 3. Come up with the name 4. Make a symbol that evokes the name 5. Figure out the company and squad colors, which was mostly just to more easily recognize them from several feet away during games (i.e. red company color for infernus marines).

[@roberthutchinson5482]

Just listening to you chaps talking about painting is an inspiration in itself. Many of us hobbyists are pretty lonesome dudes while we're painting - I've just spent hours putting together 15 assault intercessors and a shield captain from the Necron box. It's just lovely to spend some time with blokes who are enjoying the hobby.

[@fatmaru]

Hey guys, I always have trouble removing the mold lines on surfaces with fine textures on them (ribbed piping for example). Do you guys have any tips on how to remove these mold lines cleanly and efficiently?

[@TheeBaronZahariel]

Not sure if anyone will be even a little interested but there are actually 2 Blue wizards in Tolkien’s Middle Earth lore and the little information that is given about them and the area of the world that they reside in is weirdly enough one of the only bits of the world that people could easily think up their own head-canon/design their own look for the culture and people there as there is so little information about it

[@seayeo]

Can confirm that my comment on the previous video about getting an army painted was 100% friendly fun. As painting professionals you're also a little trapped because you can't paint armies to a "that'll do standard" that us hobbiests can get away with. Because people will judge your professional offering by your hobby product.

[@kylenorman3890]

I got some chaos knights to get back into the game a few weeks ago. The plan was to speed paint them for an event so I could play. Then I discovered these madlads and I’ve been enjoying pushing myself on the painting side of things. I never made the event, and I didn’t mind because I was enjoying the hobby. Cheers guys, really inspiring.

[@F_N_Inquisitor]

So unless my eyes deceive me, a good paint match for Siege Brass, would Be Pro Acryl's Light Bronze. Do that as a base coat first so you can use it later to clean up any mistakes

[@UntiltedName]

When I am starting an army, and brainstorming the paint job my considerations are: Is the intended paint scheme doable with the time, tools and skill set that I have? Efficiency. After a few demo models, and even the first couple units, I am looking to cut unnecessary paint steps. The paint itself. Was that blue or green or whatever too temperamental to get the result I want? Find an alternative. THE BASE RIM COLOR

[@logansama2573]

Homebrew is the way! If you are someone who's equally spread between Painting, Playing and Lore, creating your own Chapter covers all the bases. With Skavenblight Dinge of course.

[@Silatham]

How about stickers of everyone at Siege with a Panini style album to collect them in?

[@acidtest777]

Love the advice gents. I’ve started a custom chapter myself. It originally started out as a mortifactor projects, but evolved into a Tibetan themed successor chapter. I’ve pulled themes from whites scars, space wolves and dark angels for various aspects from chapter structure to marking guides. I love seeing all these amazing OC chapters being created and it’s one of my favourite aspects of the hobby.

[@Britishgridironfilms]

This is so well timed. I just painted my first model since 4th ed. Started a custom Chapter (don't have a name) but started with Colour scheme. Gone for Vallejo Blue Green 70.808 (don't confuse it with blue green) as the primary colour.With a Copper Helmet and left Arm. Veterans have a Black Helmet. Similar to the Alantian Spears.

[@pardoe17789]

I am constantly finding excuses to use Vallejo Blue Green, just an amazing colour.

[@DavidManser]

That scheme sounds 👨‍🍳👌

[@Britishgridironfilms]

@@pardoe17789 I know I want to use it for everything, as I have Leviathan I am trying not to do a twist on Hive Fleet Behemoth using it.

[@DaronSchmit]

Y'all should definitely get Tommie Soule on. I think you all would have a great chat

[@RunawayStereo]

You guys should totally get Duncan Rhodes on the podcast, I bet he’d be a great guest!

[@Walker99-sn1gi]

I’ve painted 5000 points of ultra marines but haven’t based a single model. I’m dreading it, could you do a segment only focusing on basing? Best ideas, modernising etc etc?

[@_iJamo]

Not hobby related but just to say Joe is looking great! Gym and hard work defo paying off!

[@donkratos5627]

The “Siege Armor” spray would look AMAZING worked within a DEATHWING scheme!

[@boodzilla_2649]

Love my onyx light just having a great light source makes me want to paint a lot longer and no longer getting eye strain cheers lads 👍 👌

[@jaylansdowne17]

The white dwarf chapter Tome Keepers changes the aquilla as per company

[@bornincrimson]

Re: the curse of needing to paint too hard for an army - I've been working on a giant necron commission, the bulk of which is three/four colors, no highlights, no shading and seeing the spectacle of all of them on a table really is a sight that makes you ignore the basic level of most of the models. I've also found that putting something slightly fancy on an easily visible surface can draw attention away from areas that aren't as well developed. On my Eldar jetbikes I tend to do a little freehand pattern on the front hull and putting a bit more effort into that will distract from the parts of the model that are just base/shade/drybrush.

[@paintbusch]

Funnily I have been thinking about the same topic for the last couple of days before watching this. My trigger was flipping through the old Eavy Metal How to Paint Space Marines book which has a brilliant chapter about how to create your own chapter. This whole episode has been food for thought. Also James did a brilliant job on the colour scheme for your own Siege chapter!

[@MarkOfTzeentch]

Holy shit that test model is lovely.. the green works really well with that light brass colour

[@Coraxery]

I mean the level of those blood angel models is pretty incredible, if you can maintain that over a whole army.... wow 👏

[@regularbear]

Thanks for clarifying the Vallejo Paint names. Still dont agree with you, but i kind of understand. I think

[@AyeDubbleYoo]

Lads, if you have a chance could you talk about shading? Especially extremely dark or black shading? I feel like a lot of top-level painting, and the GW house style, has near-black between almost every part. It's not something I would naturally do, but maybe I'm not going dark enough? Maybe it's something that's a feature of very neat and clean competition and box art painting. Cheers!

[@AncientWyrm1775]

I love rules ❤ 6:24 They hold zero weight now. All Space Marines use the same rules, except for special characters from named chapters. So if you want to take Calgar, you need to be Ultramarines. (Also the divergent chapters have extra rules, but can still use all the normal ones. Thats BT, SW, DA, and BA) 10:36 You could use them with the rules for Intercession Squad no problem. Just not the combi-weapons.

[@swakage13x]

I went through the effort of making my own legion I'm just still working on the lore, I'm using grey knights as the basis for the play style and the starting point for the models and using the space Wolf Horace heresy robot wolf head upgrade, no purity seals no iconography on the shoulders, this is my 11th legion known as the war foxes I prime with black do a nice heavy dry brush of silver over the entire model then I use a Black ink over it to make it almost look like black gunmetal so that way when the light hits it you see it shine metallic and in the dark areas where the light isn't hitting it looks pitch Black then I hit a certain areas in white and then I go over them in Orange and instead of coming up with squadrons and stuff with symbols like normal space Marines have with the arrows on the right shoulder I just put a letter that is supposed to represent what the unit or model is there's an 11 in Roman numerals in the corner of the pauldron and then in the dead center is the letter s for a strike squad as example My librarian his right shoulder is blue with orange trim and a big orange L on the shoulder with the little Roman 11 in the corner my chaplain gets a black shoulder with a white C but he has the hooded skull mask like literally he's the only person in my army that's not going to have the fox head helmet and not a single member of the army is going to go helmet less and yeah for some of the people carrying the Nemesis Force sword a few will have chainsaws just for aesthetic purposes but they're still going to be painted up in the same way which is instead of doing a blue with those lines on it, it is a silver sword with a red ink over it to look like metallic blood to represent demon blood the gemstones on the swords are purple the hand guards are good the handle is blue, orange trim on the shoulders white section of the pauldrons chest has orange certain squads like the interceptors their elbows and their knees and the back of their hands are blue purifiers same things but purple instead regular terminators are painted in the black white and orange same with the strike squad paladin's have the red on the elbows one shoulder with the letter p on it with white crotch cloth and the left shoulder with the legion symbol on every guy is a somewhat tribal head side view of the Digimon renamon, and in the top area between the ears and above the eyes depending on if the person is a paragon / justicar there will be the color matching their squadron and if they are not a paladin unless they are a purifier or a named character like grandmaster voldus or kaldor drago name characters have orange crotch cloth purifiers have purple castellan Crowe even though he's the leader of the purifiers he still has an orange crotch cloth, really makes painting an army a lot easier when you can draw out what the armour looks like and when all the soldiers look the same other than like the interceptor backpack with the prongs on it I can just draw the base unit like the strike squad an The Terminator and then take it to a photocopier for each type of unit and just hit it with colored pencils and maybe add some detail like a skull with wings sitting on top of the backpack and the weaponry on another page. I had been planning on doing a painting tutorial for my guys just to put it out there put the recordings I had got corrupted so I have to wait till I get the next set of guys before I can start over. But the general idea is this legion after one of the xenocides before the heresy a good portion about 5,000 of the 15,000 Marines got lost in the warp alongside their Primarch and launched forward in time about 11,000 years because we know that there is that one ork who went back in time and took his own past self life just so he can get an extra copy of his favorite shootah and we know that the warp can take years for a week-long trip so what's to say that didn't happen like oh it just felt like a few days but here we are 11,000 years in the future my dad is basically dead most of my brothers are either dead or evil and their sons are split up and because we know that the wolf King did kill one of the two lost primarchs we just don't know which one. And so my army is coming back as firstborn Marines dealing with these primaris and realizing that two of the loyal brothers are still alive and kicking so to speak not knowing that Raven daddy is currently in the warp hunting down word bearers Daddy and unlike the rest of thr siblings my Gene sire remember all of their siblings except for like two or three of them because the second and 11th were already gone when Raven and alpha Daddy's were found and so when my gene sire comes back find out about G-Man and the lion and when they each see my Primark their memories get unlocked about them they hug they laugh they drink one of them says I thought you died and then Jean daddy of my army tell them we were on our way back to Terra to resupply at mars and speak to father and uncle malcador about something I noticed those xenos were doing somethings along those lines I haven't fully decided yet and then leader of the Mars talk to my Primark and says we attempted to make primaries Marines of your legion but it wouldn't work for some reason and that is why my guys are still just regular gray night models not just taking primaris models and just modifying them with the new heads now if they are able to do that in the lower and in the game for the real grey Knight models then I will just add something saying oh we were finally able to make it work and then my guys get second born reinforcements maybe some will cross the Rubicon but most won't I just wish that some of the grey knights will eventually get stuff like jump packs and motorcycles because I mean tanks dreadnoughts and giant baby carrier robots are cool but it would be nice you know

[@logansama2573]

Deathwing vehicles are all white (Dreads/LandRaiders). Ravenwing vehicles are always black (Land Speeders/Planes). Dreadnoughts aren't all Deathwing. The first ever Lascannon/Missile launcher dreadnought in 2nd edition was famously painted Green.

[@box2boardhobby89]

What an awesome idea! Maybe guests could come with character names and back stories for you to add to the army?

[@Nightss]

Happy almost-anniversary, lads!

[@lightningminaturesstudio]

Opportunity for a great meme there, james stating 'I love dark angels....... and blood angels' 😊 Bit of creative editing.

[@Kammmm]

Another great episode guys ❤️ thank you. On the subject of water slide decals... I have a decal printer that can print white, metallic etc. I'd be happy to print you some custom siege decals for your army. Let me know 🤙🏻

[@quitamgogh]

I did Dark Angels for army on parade last year. Turned out about 2035 points and I’ve probably got another 2000 to go. This year I’m doing Cities of Sigmar so no progress on 40k, but James - Dark Angels is the way, the truth, and the light. Good choice!

[@austinpalmer898]

I did 3 paint schemes one was so cool but dear god it took so long to highlight everything and i was just like i cant do this will take so so long paint full army went with one i could do 70% with primer and a wash

[@kevinschaude6592]

Love arbitor ian. Found your podcast b/c of last week. You missed your chance to ask him about his tyranid bulbasaur. Should be on his insta somewhere.

[@Bunyip_Studios]

I'm now imagining James chasing cheese down a hill unable to stop, just tumbling end over end!!

[@charliekirkpatrick695]

Did you see PainterTovey's diorama of the Old World Cheese run? Genius!

[@Bunyip_Studios]

@@charliekirkpatrick695 yeah, it brilliant!

[@MrTheswayzeexpress]

Loved this podcast guys. Listened to it whilst mowing the lawn! Have 800 points of built a primed space marines waiting to be painted in custom chapter colours. Quick question: I stink at painting. I get big ideas, fail, get disheartened and end up rushing to just get them finished but they look crap! What's one or two simple tips that you guys would give to a noob to make his minis look acceptable! Thanks in advance!

[@matthewfairweather8362]

Great timing for the podcast guys, im just starting to work on my own homebrew chapter. Found Siege with the last podcast, arbitor Ian is an interesting guy. Working my way past your backlog of podcasts. Keep up the brilliant work.

[@stevedavis3772]

I've decided to help Joe out by painting some dark angels in solidarity. Although it's probably his fault they are called the Unforgiven.

[@Winter-Nine]

Love the idea of no electronic devices out when painting... the only problem is trying to do that and follow the Siege patreon guides 😂

[@GoldenBootsKnight]

Dudes great show, and congrats on the mini. It's looking awesome 🎉

[@adaml2910]

Update on the 80%... its still not finished. But since then I started and completed a new warband... now moved onto another new project. Maybe one day I'll go back and finish the original one maybe not 😂

[@sinisterplank3113]

I'm in the same boat

[@thesigmaritepainter7803]

Great podcast once again

[@stevekearns6173]

Well done lads! love the show!

[@ThePolyfamous]

Fantasy did not start with Tolkien. I didn't expect to hear this on a Warhammer painting podcast, but everyone should know that Tolkien did not create the fantasy genre

[@sinisterplank3113]

From a literature history perspective it's perfectly fair to say Tolkien shaped the fantasy genre as we know it.

[@Hurtone]

I am doing a semi-own chapter. I do the Hawk Lords, but I just decided to change them in color and somewhat fluff to what I like. Haters are gonna hate, I do not care :)

[@jebbrown607]

I really like that blue-green color on the pauldrons but I’m having trouble matching the color. Does anyone have any suggestions on paint to help with that?

[@spencerarnold669]

One thing I would like to know (because its harder than you think to find out as people tend to focus on the creative side) but how do the rules work? Do you pick an established chapter and take their rules wholesale or can you pick and chose bits and dedicated figures? If someone could help that would be great

[@AncientWyrm1775]

Chapters don't have rules anymore (mostly). Basically, all Space Marines use the same units and rules, and you can just pick the ones you like and think will fit your army the most. The only exceptions are Black Templars, Dark Angles, Blood Angles, and Space Wolves, who each have several unique units that only they can take, as well as unique rules. They can still take all the regular options as well, so they just have more options.

[@FinxOmally]

Awesome podcast lads, always a great listen. Question for everyone really.. Is there a trick to colour theory or is it just experience? Personally am always impressed by seeing people using washes, glazes or layering with different colours to some amazing results, as if it’s some form of witchcraft. What is a good way to start finding complimentary colours and also understanding how they interact with each other when mixed?

[@DavidManser]

Look up "Roman Lappat Miniature Art" - and check out his color theory series. Amazing stuff, I cannot recommend it enough!

[@dandadoom]

Watch Battle of the Five Armies Joe! You will like it

[@stevedavis3772]

I'm just throwing this out there. But if this months hashtag to paint a model isn't Catachan Junegle fighters. There's something wrong with the world.

[@d45873]

I appreciate you, but I wanted to share some feedback about this episode. It felt different from the spontaneous 'Essex Boys Paint' vibe that I've grown to love. This felt more like it was retrofitted around marketing requirements for a spray paint rather than focusing on the fun and creative content we're used to. Just wanted to share my thoughts, not hating at all-looking forward to more of the episodes.

[@amoryburgess]

What is SANGUTS?

[@youtubevanced4900]

My suggestion to anyone that gets 90% done and then gets stuck with all the BS trinkets and whatnot. Just pick one or two contrast paints. Paint them all in those and move on. Don’t bother highlighting, shading, nothing. I often finish the armour, the skin, the metallics, and am left with all the BS which I just can’t be bothered with. Just paint it in a darker muted colour with contrast and move on.

[@fri8601]

I hate the "excuses about why we haven't been painting" segment on the last few episodes. No one cares. If you're painting great but "why Iv not been painting" isn't an interesting topic.

[@youtubevanced4900]

Strap in boys. The missing legions are 100% going to turn back up as females and dominate the 40k universe after throwing the Emperor and his Patriarchy aside like it’s nothing.

[@youtubevanced4900]

Your argument about paint names is so stupid. I don’t want my paint names to represent the colour because I doing want a pre-conception of what the colour is going to be???? That makes no sense. In what world is the paint colour being a mystery better than having the colour correctly identified?

[@youtubevanced4900]

Your argument about paint names is so stupid. I don’t want my paint names to represent the colour because I doing want a pre-conception of what the colour is going to be???? That makes no sense. In what world is the paint colour being a mystery better than having the colour correctly identified?