Making a Deck for $865 - Costs and Tricks - Part 1

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@lrparrish227
@lrparrish227 Жыл бұрын
I am building almost exactly the same deck. I have my spreadsheet with items and took to Home Depot to confirm all the items and prices. Mine should cost around $696.00. I am in Texas. Lumber is high but hardware is really high! Thanks for sharing so much!!
@CHEEZWHIZ62
@CHEEZWHIZ62 5 жыл бұрын
It felt like I was watching Benny Hill build a deck. Especially when you were tapping on the concrete with the pry bar!
@magicmike6961
@magicmike6961 5 жыл бұрын
in his beach shoes
@clydeandmcgee
@clydeandmcgee 4 жыл бұрын
He might not have had other tools and he removed the concrete, aye?
@dalife.23
@dalife.23 4 жыл бұрын
he had his wife's shoe on
@amandajoyr1
@amandajoyr1 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky he didn't 'tap' his feet in those fabric shoes...oink!!
@racerchaser27
@racerchaser27 4 жыл бұрын
Tune in next week when our intrepid carpenter tackles building a backyard shed using a handplane and wearing hello kitty flip flops.
@goldstandard6915
@goldstandard6915 5 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it that the shoes belong to his mother-in-law. The red pair were his sisters.. I think someone mentioned the job took well over a week because some boards took an entire afternoon to cut..
@LB-pg3no
@LB-pg3no 4 жыл бұрын
Dont mock unti. You show us your ability to build....his deck turned out great!!! People who make fun are really tge insecure mfckers that need so e psychological help badly!!!!
@AdrianJayeOnline
@AdrianJayeOnline 4 жыл бұрын
but I do think he's just pulling a joke and not being mean
@nemarec
@nemarec 5 жыл бұрын
Dont need hanger clips if you already your supports underneath. 4 treated screws are enough on the ends, per code.
@calebfuller4713
@calebfuller4713 3 жыл бұрын
Overall it's a great job, and I'm sure it's still giving you great service, but a couple of points jump out: 1) When you realized you had a concrete slab under there, why break it?!? Why not just use it as the base, maybe attach your post anchors to it with a few concrete anchor bolts? You really went the hard route there! 2) Landscaping fabric over the slab was another waste. I get why people feel the need to do it over plain dirt, but any weeds that will penetrate concrete (and they exist) will not care about some "weed fabric". But it's all live and learn. I doubt I've done anything ever that I wouldn't change at least one thing in hindsight. Enjoy your deck!
@dvbdvbdvb
@dvbdvbdvb 3 жыл бұрын
very good points to be honest. The deck was temporary and it's already gone but now I need to make the final one.
@gkk2001
@gkk2001 5 жыл бұрын
One board slipping from your hand onto your toe would ruin your day, and week, and maybe month. I was waiting for Benny Hills face at the end as someone else commented. Very entertaining video.
@marcusy5810
@marcusy5810 5 жыл бұрын
Looks really good one thing i would do different is run that tap to the side of the deck instead of being on the deck itself
@jahmenj
@jahmenj 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one having to stop the video at times to read the caption? Sometimes I can read it fast but when I have to go back 15 seconds, it’s a form of distraction. Don’t get me wrong, I love the videos and the channel, but I find myself pausing the video to do other things or I’ll try to remember to come back later. In most cases I don’t come back unless I remember there were something in that video I need to see again. Overall, I’ll give this channel a 10/10 👍🏽🙏🏽🍏💚🥑💯 PS: I paused the video at 9:59 😳 I hope to remember to come back later and I can continue to educate myself from watching these videos... Peacej 🥑👍🏽🙏🏽🍏💚
@40093jjmia
@40093jjmia 5 жыл бұрын
Best way to make a deck: duct tape glude and some nails, patch a 2x4s with some plywood u got a sturdy tough deck just make sure no city hall knows about it and its no where near questioning people.
@onememories8523
@onememories8523 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! The 1st video I've seen where people actually seal the wood even though it is TREATED wood. Treated wood doesn't mean it termite free treated wood. Great video man! Quality job right here!
@ab8cv
@ab8cv 5 жыл бұрын
Opkp
@xeneizeusa
@xeneizeusa 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching the tips and techniques but I subscribed when I saw the Maté near the end.
@Cajunisback
@Cajunisback 5 жыл бұрын
Dude that’s a solid deck.
@marcosaguilera7337
@marcosaguilera7337 3 жыл бұрын
me mató el detalle del mate y el termo al final.😂 Muy bueno el video. saludos desde Mendoza🇦🇷
@Christopher-li7uc
@Christopher-li7uc 5 жыл бұрын
Wow them shoes bro !?!?! I cant watch another sec 😳
@brentturner7232
@brentturner7232 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the materials totaled that amount. We just built an entire playset and didn't spend that much. Well done on the final project...looks nice.
@arturogonzalez1218
@arturogonzalez1218 4 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed at the fact that he was able to do all this in Tom's.
@dvbdvbdvb
@dvbdvbdvb 4 жыл бұрын
Toms are a ripoff, these are old style argentine alpargatas, but point taken 😁
@TMD4343
@TMD4343 5 жыл бұрын
FYI Diablo Blades are much better to use, slice right through all that, 1) should of had flashing between house and deck board, not absolutely needed but keeps things from building in between. 2) should of used a barrier between the joist and deck, this keeps the joists from rotting due to debris from gathering at those spots and holding moisture, I prefer "G Tape" . other than that bag up job my friend.
@markfernandes2396
@markfernandes2396 5 жыл бұрын
a craftsman, notched beams, staggered joist ties.. could have used a saw but the hand saw is more precise. plus he is a DIY, I know from experience, some dek builders aren't even close to this. Great Job...
@curtisst.pierre99
@curtisst.pierre99 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I wish I lived wherever the frost line was 10 inches. My job would be so much easier.
@frankcastle1480
@frankcastle1480 5 жыл бұрын
The slippers have me rolling😂
@elbertrobinson4179
@elbertrobinson4179 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah my rolling myself
@grantpalmer85
@grantpalmer85 6 жыл бұрын
I would've done it differently..took alot of time obviously but aslong as you're happy with the result that makes it all worth while good on ya
@lewisclark5694
@lewisclark5694 5 жыл бұрын
I’m 70, been a carpenter pretty much my whole life. There’s a few nit picky things to say ‘ you shoulda-coulda’, I guess. But basically a good job. But, as others have pointed out--- those shoes/house slippers are really Not a good idea.
@eyeswideshut2800
@eyeswideshut2800 5 жыл бұрын
you probably mean for safety reasons but lol and I didn't even see the shoes he was so close up on his shots
@chivone21
@chivone21 4 жыл бұрын
I once wore flip-flops while building a deck....till I accidentally dropped a 2x6 off it's "level" and landed across 5 toes. Well! Let's just suffice it to say without saying the number of curse words I invented...that I wore work boots from that time on.
@lewisclark5694
@lewisclark5694 4 жыл бұрын
chivone21 well, I’ve made far stupider mistakes, that’s how we learn, I guess, lol. .
@bamzKid
@bamzKid 5 жыл бұрын
I would have been done with whole deck by now! Nice work boots by the way!
@jgalibois
@jgalibois 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I like the attention to detail in the overall construction. However... when treating cut surfaces of PT lumber, you should use an anti-insect treatment (e.g., Woodlife CopperCoat) not an anti-water treatment--like the Thompson's WaterSeal you used. The point there is to inhibit insect infestation into the compromised PT lumber.
@sk19831000
@sk19831000 5 жыл бұрын
Home depot rents SDS chopper guns....but all that with a crow bar is impressive. I think you were a stone worker in a past life.
@clip619
@clip619 5 жыл бұрын
whats the specs on your loafers
@dustinsalisbury4383
@dustinsalisbury4383 4 жыл бұрын
Look like Toms.
@martin41lopez
@martin41lopez 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to insulate the waters picket before winter or freezing.
@juanreyes25
@juanreyes25 5 жыл бұрын
I concur with others..... good job ! However, I also gasped at the shoes. Then, I Almost fell over when I saw the red ones. No bueno.
@damienbull8160
@damienbull8160 5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣😂😂
@darrylseager1209
@darrylseager1209 5 жыл бұрын
Good work ... picked up a couple of tips .... but ! all those tools and a custom power supply and you work in slippers!! Man get some nice bootees from Mr DeWalt :)
@bomaite1
@bomaite1 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those work-slippers? I'm going to want a pair of those!
@Dukemeistro
@Dukemeistro 4 жыл бұрын
It’s cool how selective you are in power tools; you use a power saw to cut cardboard, but use a crowbar to breakup concrete -I expected to hear a loud jackhammer😮
@wendellhenderson1081
@wendellhenderson1081 5 жыл бұрын
Looks really nice,good job
@mudslinger150
@mudslinger150 4 жыл бұрын
I knew this was going to be good at 1:30 when he decided to muscle through the concrete instead of using it as a footing.
@lovera3878
@lovera3878 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful job and thank you for the video
@dannyfubar3099
@dannyfubar3099 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent post thank you for sharing.
@DrDubstyle
@DrDubstyle 5 жыл бұрын
An SDS hammer drill and starting your cuts with the circular saw would have saved heaps of time
@kellymici737
@kellymici737 5 жыл бұрын
I built a shed with these plans from Ryan [ Details Here?> *WoodBlueprints. Com* ] . The instructions were clear and easy to implement. Even a novice can be able to build fast using this plan. I'm happy I bought the plan. It also saved me much cost.
@TheUnleashed123
@TheUnleashed123 4 жыл бұрын
Lol the sun had litteraly gone down by the time he got that hole drilled
@timskiles3823
@timskiles3823 3 жыл бұрын
Mmn
@Joe-lh8ij
@Joe-lh8ij 5 жыл бұрын
dvbdvbdvb, You doing a good job, a good example for others and even the clowns watching your video. With the cost of the labor involved not many people have an option. Either DIY or else. Watching some of the comments I just wonder why so many clowns watching a pro building the deck instead of watching videos about life in the circus. Hey clowns, your negative comments are not funny but depressing knowing that so many low minded creatures walking on this earth. He is teaching you how to save the money so give the guy a break, Watch and Learn.
@johnbilby227
@johnbilby227 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great example of a DIY job that should stay DIY.... because no decent pro is gonna bid anyone for a tiny deck that size with that amount of labor. They already know nobody would like the price
@dbeaulieu9730
@dbeaulieu9730 5 жыл бұрын
For following a straight line without leaving a permanent mark, you can use a chalk line filled with baby powder
@troydere
@troydere 5 жыл бұрын
but chalk is not permanent either
@tug_slug3161
@tug_slug3161 5 жыл бұрын
Dude that looks pretty good but you did nothing to protect the bottom of the siding. Even treated wood gets moldy and rots. I personally would have sealed it with a primer. You work that hard you want the finished product to last long after your gone, still... good job
@jonnichols4974
@jonnichols4974 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this anything is possible.
@brucemcnally3924
@brucemcnally3924 5 жыл бұрын
Great job! And forget the complaints about your loafers. neat project, great video, thanks.
@Hozay1228
@Hozay1228 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work for a home owner.
@AdityaNambiar5
@AdityaNambiar5 5 жыл бұрын
You are very meticulous, just like me. Loved watching your video!
@aprildawn6926
@aprildawn6926 4 жыл бұрын
I'm concerned that there was no flashing used on the area where the deck met the wood siding and beneath the door.
@shaneryan5304
@shaneryan5304 5 жыл бұрын
A hint would be a chalk box with baby powder. I’ve seen people do that on finish carpet because it’s good for layout but leaves no damage.
@mr.wizeguy8995
@mr.wizeguy8995 5 жыл бұрын
Best way to make straight screw line is to set straight edge other side correct place then slightly tap screws in place with hammer on every board and then screw away. Repeat that on every joist.
@jesusHernandez-in7lu
@jesusHernandez-in7lu 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent your work Sr. Thanks
@MatthewRyanPage
@MatthewRyanPage 5 жыл бұрын
$865 in materials, $3000 in prep and labor
@MatthewRyanPage
@MatthewRyanPage 5 жыл бұрын
Taylor, then he ain’t chargin enough.
@daleon96
@daleon96 4 жыл бұрын
labor for deck this size would be around $800
@TheUnleashed123
@TheUnleashed123 4 жыл бұрын
@@daleon96 depends where u live
@trojanhorse9459
@trojanhorse9459 4 жыл бұрын
Taylor doing shit by hand like this. Hell yes it’s 3k in labor. I respect a guy who does things by the book. But Jesus this could have been finished in 4 hours after concrete was cured. Hell he even used the cheaper concrete that has to sit for a few days Spend the extra dollar a bag get the quick set and it’s ready to work on in 2 hours.
@niclema
@niclema 4 жыл бұрын
Un matecito 🧉 al final 🙂👌🏾
@unquillo
@unquillo 4 жыл бұрын
HAhhahah I was seen your alpargatas and shorts and I said to myself.... thats the way I dress in summer... very funny.... Then I though you maybe were from my home country. My assumption was finaly meet when I saw you were drinking mate!!! Cheers from the Midwest!! Arriba la cruz del sur!
@samx9024
@samx9024 5 жыл бұрын
How many different pairs of slippers did this guy wear for this deck install
@mattycorbett6112
@mattycorbett6112 5 жыл бұрын
yes you did great job i like that you make it i come from Australia . all so i like concrete in pipe in ground
@mrantone916
@mrantone916 5 жыл бұрын
Hardhat and "Toms". Yes sir. 🤠
@alden138
@alden138 5 жыл бұрын
Who builds a deck only using a 12" level?
@airzonasprite4060
@airzonasprite4060 5 жыл бұрын
guys that work in cute slippers
@Lightof900
@Lightof900 5 жыл бұрын
The same guy that cuts beams with a Japanese flush trim saw. Lol.
@trojanhorse9459
@trojanhorse9459 4 жыл бұрын
Dustin Kile i was just thinking that
@tesla_3_performance
@tesla_3_performance 4 жыл бұрын
Had me doubting you with that home-maid power drill in the beginning, but looks like you made a good attempt at being "compliant"
@dvbdvbdvb
@dvbdvbdvb 4 жыл бұрын
and it is still up and running, it has been maybe 4 years since I built it. I had to change the connectors only once since I was not too happy with the ones I used in the video.
@AdrianJayeOnline
@AdrianJayeOnline 4 жыл бұрын
you should have put "yakitty sax" on it.. AKA "the Benny hill show" music
@kristopherhasenbuhler5393
@kristopherhasenbuhler5393 5 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute nephew 😂. Why did we use a 6x6 for a deck than short?
@adamant3725
@adamant3725 5 жыл бұрын
Great job. Nice shoes👞👞
@dustinsalisbury4383
@dustinsalisbury4383 4 жыл бұрын
Looks great. No part 2?
@dvbdvbdvb
@dvbdvbdvb 4 жыл бұрын
I filmed it but is just making a one step out of leftovers, not much there, maybe a one minute video...
@AdrianJayeOnline
@AdrianJayeOnline 4 жыл бұрын
this was painful to watch in places, but very very compelling
@abuanihas3pazg149
@abuanihas3pazg149 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing sir, Much appreciate your video and because your built was very cost conscious I think overall you've done an amazing job, Take care, just subscribed and liked.
@westcoast9651
@westcoast9651 4 жыл бұрын
Good job 👍
@Toeblake24
@Toeblake24 5 жыл бұрын
Well done! But... your deck board need space between each, like 1/4" to let "breath the under". For hiding/aligning the screws, consider a Kreg deck jig, awesomes results.
@mikematij2
@mikematij2 4 жыл бұрын
You can mix the whole bag just add water first then concrete then water till the bag runs out. When you get close to the end of the bag don't add too much water.
@ultimaetsolder
@ultimaetsolder 5 жыл бұрын
You need a little gap between the boards. Water spout should be moved to the side of the deck, obviously.
@michellekillinger9324
@michellekillinger9324 5 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS butt fit wet boards. As they dry you will get proper spacing. The water faucet didn't need to be moved to the end of the deck, but it does need to be supported.
@ultimojugador96
@ultimojugador96 4 жыл бұрын
Todo iba bien mientras veía el vídeo y de repente 18:46 Mate salvaje aparece jajaja, capaz sos argentino, uruguayo ni idea, pero te felicito por el laburo y por compartir el gusto por el mate.
@KINGPIN_ESTRILLA
@KINGPIN_ESTRILLA 4 жыл бұрын
Es argentino...mirá los zapatos que lleva🤣
@kristopherhasenbuhler5393
@kristopherhasenbuhler5393 5 жыл бұрын
NOW HOLD ON A MINUTE nephew DID I JUST WATCH A MAN CUT A 6X6 WITH A JAPAN SAW??? 6:30
@stevencaruso825
@stevencaruso825 Жыл бұрын
Is adding that many screws to the top a bit overkill? Why not just use screws at the ends and just once in the middle?
@anthonyschenck7076
@anthonyschenck7076 3 жыл бұрын
Should have used a spacer board. Something 1/4 to 1/2 thick against brick for even board offset and rain off the brick.
@dvbdvbdvb
@dvbdvbdvb 3 жыл бұрын
I left the same gap and had no issues, 1/2 in gap seems like a very bad recommendation as small fingers can get trapped. I left a 1/8 gap and it was more than enough.
@darrenmcintosh326
@darrenmcintosh326 4 жыл бұрын
When im getting ready to retire.....are the boards on yet?
@leomyeggo
@leomyeggo 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Learned a lot. Can't wait for part 2
@alexsanabria9194
@alexsanabria9194 4 жыл бұрын
Desde que te empecé a ver con las alpargatas supúse que eras uruguayo o argentino. Mas cuando vi el termo y el mate jeje..
@dvbdvbdvb
@dvbdvbdvb 4 жыл бұрын
Argentino :)
@alexsanabria9194
@alexsanabria9194 4 жыл бұрын
@@dvbdvbdvb sabía jaja...saludos, y muy buenos videos. ✌👍
@charlesdefrancisco5056
@charlesdefrancisco5056 5 жыл бұрын
Fair job ..however you may want to let your viewers know of the proper way to lay deck boards to stall the enviable cupping of the boards...
@michellekillinger9324
@michellekillinger9324 5 жыл бұрын
Cup bottom up = flat boards.
@shaguito1979
@shaguito1979 3 жыл бұрын
Love the shoes!!
@bigpoppa97236
@bigpoppa97236 3 жыл бұрын
Now this same deck is $3000
@Guillotines_For_Globalists
@Guillotines_For_Globalists 7 жыл бұрын
Although not necessary either way, the hangers appear to be installed upside down.
@dvbdvbdvb
@dvbdvbdvb 7 жыл бұрын
+Blaine Bugaski they are installed correctly, they need to hold from the bottom.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists
@Guillotines_For_Globalists 7 жыл бұрын
I now see that you did install them correctly. When you were lying them out and "hanging" them on the boards that was only to organize, I can now see that you did not install them like that. I am sure that you can see where the confusion arose.
@bigvicz
@bigvicz 5 жыл бұрын
🤔 where can i get some of those construction karate shoes.
@wayneguy6043
@wayneguy6043 Жыл бұрын
Yea, the shoes killed it
@dangrimes5078
@dangrimes5078 5 жыл бұрын
Man this guy moves fast!!
@howtodoitdude1662
@howtodoitdude1662 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Please invest in a real level and get rid of those cordless toys. By the way, lag screws are fine to use, they are used on ledger boards that support shear loads.
@aralsea1
@aralsea1 5 жыл бұрын
Living in Japan, this lumber and hardware would have cost me 3x more. In fact, you can't get a lot of the same items. A contractor would have charged $5000-6000 for this deck.
@calebfuller4713
@calebfuller4713 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and probably built it from sugi with ordinary untreated screws, so by the time I'm making this comment the whole thing is already a rotting, rusting safety hazard. (I speak from experience...)
@mountainviews5025
@mountainviews5025 5 жыл бұрын
We noticed that you had your wife doing all of the digging she did a great job you didn't say it but we could tell that it was her because of the girls shoes wow and she did your concrete awesome awesome job girl looks amazing thumbs up
@ErHerrmann495
@ErHerrmann495 5 жыл бұрын
Take 5 minutes to make baseplate templates for the J-bolts. Much easier to set and get them level. Sturdy cardboard and an extra couple nuts will do the trick
@exceleratorjoshua
@exceleratorjoshua 5 жыл бұрын
Good DIY project. Only thing I wasn't a fan of was when you used galvanized pipe for extending the water spigot. Different metals will corrode and cause electrolysis hence your spigot will corrode where it meets the galvanized pipe.
@sammyelliott5554
@sammyelliott5554 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work shoes
@DIRTDIVER882
@DIRTDIVER882 5 жыл бұрын
Could've just mixed the concrete right in the tubes. I was thinking about doing something similar to this but was gna use that foam instead of concrete. Any ideas or experience with that?
@thenotoriousjetta3674
@thenotoriousjetta3674 4 жыл бұрын
The foam is so unreliable and never sets as strong as concrete does I’ve tested the foam in heaps of different conditions and never gotten an consistent result
@darrenmcintosh326
@darrenmcintosh326 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty intertaining
@faybrianhernandez2416
@faybrianhernandez2416 4 жыл бұрын
You are the man.
@NE_Pigeons
@NE_Pigeons 5 жыл бұрын
I almost died laughing when I saw his shoes 😂😂😂
@james-jq8sk
@james-jq8sk 5 жыл бұрын
Geez I wish all these smart arses with their sarcastic and snide remarks would show us all how to make a deck by making a video and putting it on KZbin....
@trojanhorse9459
@trojanhorse9459 4 жыл бұрын
We have
@stoneyj1a1
@stoneyj1a1 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work boots, not! You cut that huge log with that little saw? I think those saws are for detailed work as in cabinet making, not framing.
@Indica_Clark
@Indica_Clark 5 жыл бұрын
Did the job.
@stoneyj1a1
@stoneyj1a1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Indica_Clark Sure, but its probably dulled quite a bit. He's got a 12" electric miter saw and a circular saw, why not use one of them?
@pickamind
@pickamind 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Job!
@richieramirez8311
@richieramirez8311 4 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t use galvanized piping for water on your hose Bibb
@davidjauregui1755
@davidjauregui1755 3 жыл бұрын
Good job! 👏🏽
@rjdestiny-mx4ir
@rjdestiny-mx4ir 5 жыл бұрын
Have the deck boards buckled at all since the install?? Noticed you didnt leave a relief gap for expansion and contraction between the boards
@zfolwick
@zfolwick 5 жыл бұрын
they come wet and will contract as they dry
@michellekillinger9324
@michellekillinger9324 5 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS butt fit wet boards. When they dry you will have proper spacing.
@jeffstanley4593
@jeffstanley4593 5 жыл бұрын
If you leave a gap you are going to have a hellacious big gap when the wet boards dry out.
@glennbonfiglio8566
@glennbonfiglio8566 5 жыл бұрын
I was always told the deck boards should be crown up, he has them both ways.
@jeffstanley4593
@jeffstanley4593 5 жыл бұрын
Crown up, you will have hills. Crown down, you will have valleys that puddle water. Alternating crowns, you will have hills and valleys. Some hills and some puddles. I would go with crown up. No gap, any gap you leave will just get wider over time. You start with a 10d nail width and end up with twice that or more.
@SmokinKlocks
@SmokinKlocks 5 жыл бұрын
Bro Im dying at all these slipper comments
@donaldwainwright
@donaldwainwright 2 жыл бұрын
I did a curved 1 with 3 steps ballistrades and lights on steps and around edge of decking total cast £525
@jerrypolete5258
@jerrypolete5258 4 жыл бұрын
What program do you use on your computer to be able to lay it out? Thank you.
@dvbdvbdvb
@dvbdvbdvb 4 жыл бұрын
SketchUp, used to be owned by Google but I think another company bought it from them. Used to be free, I downloaded it when doing this and was still free for personal use.
@VerissimusAurelius
@VerissimusAurelius 4 жыл бұрын
Temporary ?? and you Thompson seal the ends???
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