Making a Realistic Shotgun in Besiege

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[@ReidCaptain]

Hey guys, I'm looking into doing some more weapons in the future, but I'm still a little unsure how that is going to fly with the algorithm. If it ends up being ok, what other weapons would you want to see me make?

[@ctddied1637]

.40m auto cannon?

[@thomey]

Something belt fed would be cool

[@Miedemre]

mass driver

[@sunnybarot8950]

Chainsaw

[@theyeeterg]

Make a sten gun

[@UltraStrawberryDreamsMonster]

dude literally reinvented a gun, with a bolt and working around problems like not accidentally igniting multiple rounds, or accidental multiple chamberings. it's really interesting to watch this, you're an absolute madman.

[@kwack9510]

Well I mean, this is generally how guns work, but yes they are very cool. Feats of engineering in fact imagine a submachine gun doing the same thing but automatically and in less than a second

[@zachsuarez1830]

@@kwack9510 dude….

[@huguesdepayens807]

What's your relationship like with your father?

[@kwack9510]

@@huguesdepayens807 pretty good, I love my old man

[@huguesdepayens807]

@@kwack9510 I was talking to Femboy gaming. Are you a weirdo too?

[@BTKLion12]

One day it will go: "Hey guys, so today i want to make a working thermonuclear device. It should be fairly simple so lets get into it"

[@arericarnau4773]

yep he is going to

[@polishgigachad]

His FBI agent reading titles of his vids must be worried.

[@strtrm2406]

You could probably model the main explosion of a nuke using ballasts and bombs like in the video to simulate the chain reaction. Don't know how you would model the horrible things that happen away from ground zero though.

[@arericarnau4773]

@@polishgigachad yes he defininetlly one day he will say ''Hello today we are back in REAL LIFE and we are going to nuke a city. Le'ts see how it goes''

[@gremlinman9724]

He absolutely would, if he had a simulation that allowed for manipulation of particles that small. The Powder Toy or something like that.

[@erikm8373]

Imagine being in a little castle somewhere and you see these vikings show up and begin assembling a massive shotgun pointed straight at you

[@Nugcon]

comically large shotgun

[@viiikalendasjulii4649]

*Lego building sounds*

[@DuckInGameStop]

@@viiikalendasjulii4649 shoot the giant shotgun! HEY! Build the gun! Shoot the bullets! Destroy the castle! The new Giant Gun collection from LEGO City!

[@cadetkohr5508]

This is amazing! Quick note: A common thing people get wrong is calling the whole thing a bullet. The bullet is the projectile that leaves the barrel and hits the target. The entire thing is a cartridge or round, and the thing that comes out the side is a shell or casing. The little disk at the end is the primer, which gets hit by the firing pin and ignites the rest of the powder.

[@ReidCaptain]

Good note, I didn't know enough to use the technical terms, so instead of sounding like an idiot I just defaulted to the basic ones lol

[@General_Kebab]

With a shotgun the entire cartridge/round is called a shell when we refer to shotgun cartridges we call them shotgun shells

[@General_Kebab]

Also shotguns normally don't have magazines they normally have tubes

[@di5ea5eairsoft6]

@@General_Kebab don’t auto shotguns have mags?

[@Inplogo]

@@General_Kebab it's still a magazine, just a tube magazine

[@normalperson377]

Imagine being a poor merchant in the dark ages and then a giant gun appears in the sky and starts wrecking your home

[@cadientesamb838]

This guy is literally the definition of thinking outside the box

[@Tylorean]

Plot twist: He *IS* the box!

[@theyeeterg]

This guy literally is the box

[@Tylorean]

@@theyeeterg what a creative copy…

[@galacticeclipsis3240]

mf a damn circle

[@endmysuffering8601]

Maybe this guy is the box?

[@dolphinman042]

What about using frictionless blocks in the barrel? I think that could make it work better and smoother

[@Shtoops]

Yeah I was surprised he didn't use them. Maybe there was a problem that he just didn't show us

[@lilflob]

@@Shtoops he usually walks through all the problems he has though, but i doubt he just didn't think of it

[@ARockyRock]

@Hamfish he can resize the pipes to make them larger and longer, creating a very effective barrel.

[@atomicwinter31]

He could also have used the half pipes for the bombs

[@charger8624]

i think the barrel and moving the bolt may have been slightly better if you used smooth surface blocks, but otherwise this is a really cool shotgun build!

[@danelyn.1374]

the thing about smooth surface blocks is that they're not actually smooth, just look like it. the best functionally smooth blocks according to others is a half-pipe, but it's unknown why he didn't use these (they'd at least look pretty good)

[@Lemonator32]

Now make a giant robot that can wield the shotgun.

[@ReidCaptain]

I would legitimately consider it, but I was running the shotgun at ~60% speed to prevent lag. I'd need to do some optimizations before I tried anything bigger

[@ElleDoesThingysLol]

@@ReidCaptain He never said in besiege, Mr. Reid Captain.

[@chasetoyama8184]

@@ElleDoesThingysLol this should go on r/cursedcomments lol

[@brendenmayanrd7338]

"now you'll notice I have a bomb" I love how calm you say that lol, great vids!

[@leetpawnmaster8433]

I absolutely love that because you made primers for each cartridge and the long profile of the flamethrower you accidentally stumbled into the real issue with firearms of out of battery discharges due to an exposed firing pin. I know people have commented about using smooth surface blocks, but another thing that could help with loading might be a feed ramp out of the magazine to help tip the cartridge into the barrel and avoid getting caught on a 90 degree ledge. It would also have been neat if the magazine was just pushed up by a spring passively without timers, but that would require feed lips or something to prevent the other rounds from feeding and I don't think the physics of the game would do very well with that kind of constant force being applied on multiple volatile loose objects. This was still incredible to see made. Far more than I would have thought possible to create.

[@darkesthourstudios]

6:20 It is said that around half of all shotguns suffer from this, poor guy.

[@jacobryan4569]

Quite the cursed take you have here

[@ragewireloki6213]

why do you have to say this?

[@darkesthourstudios]

@@ragewireloki6213 because. That’s all I have to say.

[@ragewireloki6213]

@@darkesthourstudios ok. uhhhh. IDK what to say anymore you have just melted my mind.

[@maxboskeljon6440]

THE MANS MADE A FRICKIN SHOTGUN

[@ReidCaptain]

Lol, I see you around a lot, thanks for commenting!

[@morronmag8890]

As a gun nerd and knowing how a gun knows, i can tell that is a working gun lol. Also all rounds setting off is a posible failure guns can have

[@chasetoyama8184]

Yeah, he basically made took a mechanism from a real semi-automatic rifle. I wish I had this game, theoretically I could make an open-bolt submachine gun like a Luty or an MP-40.

[@baguetteboy5466]

I like how he completely reinvented a shotgun shell through trial and error.

[@scottaroondog1502]

My guy, love your content 😎 making the impossible possible every Friday!

[@ReidCaptain]

And Wednesday :)

[@Wheagg]

it is wednesday my dude

[@Faux_Fox_]

@@Wheagg it’s Friday…

[@Wheagg]

@@Faux_Fox_ well yeah it's two days later that's how days work

[@NothingButFlam]

@@Faux_Fox_ 2 days ago. Do you understand the concept of time?

[@guidomista7960]

If you plan on making other weapons in besiege, I recommend learning some stuff about firearms. Like, how they work. I noticed a lot of your problems that you had to deal with are actual problems with firearms throughout history. Also, i would recommend creating a chamber, since dragging the shell all the way to the front of the barrel is a pain, but also having pellets travel down the barrel allows the pellets to have a tighter spread, meaning more accurate shot. Im not asking you to learn like, every firearm I’m mostly recommending just basic structure of the systems inside a firearm.

[@alyx8522]

All things considered, a full auto sub gun is really simple to build in real life. Scarily easy

[@slantedhorses4233]

i, for one, really enjoy watching people who dont know what theyre doing figure out basic stuff like that

[@guidomista7960]

@@slantedhorses4233 thats fair lmao

[@MECHA_DI]

@@alyx8522 its fully legal to make a semi auto gun from scratch in the us

[@truckerjesus8633]

@@MECHA_DI key word semi

[@Lando_J625]

i love this channel, it encourages destruction. but in very complicated ways, whether it be to propel something or to just break stuff.

[@pinguino5105]

"Realistic" Aww yes, Reid captain is in an alternate universe where the M1A1 Tommy gun and the Saiga 12 we're combined into one.

[@themilkman6969]

realistic as in function and mechanics

[@JuicyJesus420]

Love seing you do builds like this where you test out a new design and see how you can get it to work within a specific game. The thing I have been wondering tho is what you could do in a game like besiege if you really tried to perfect a something over long perioids of time. What are the extremes you can achieve? You seem like a really talented person and I'd be really curious to see what a perfected design of you would look like

[@gen2mediainc.577]

Besiege’s front page builders are insane, they can build entire cars that have accurate mechanics and run smoothly. Check out the steam workshop for the game!

[@jamesdavis1917]

@@gen2mediainc.577 I saw a fully functional transformer the other day, as in a car which functioned as a regular car until you hit a button, where it unfolded into a fully controllable bipedal mech, using the same control scheme. I'm a decent builder, but that blew my mind

[@ItsJoKeZ]

This really is brilliant. I can hardly explain. As someone who loves the mechs. of guns this was so- so interesting. knowing what you were going for & seeing it come to life blew my mind!

[@jblockman_59nunyabidnis68]

13:12 "Cave Johnson here, aperture science, we fire the entire bullet, that's 93% more bullet per bullet!"

[@leeroyjenkins9210]

Gun guy here, while a truly accurate gun in Besiege is basically impossible, this is pretty darn close! good job, keep it up, man!

[@Artem4egg_]

Bro i am literally scared because of him existing

[@ReidCaptain]

Me too tbh

[@justinkeeton7521]

I've seen all of your Besiege vids and this finally toppled my old favorite the grandfather clock. Just sick.

[@raidmaster6879]

Bro, this is amazing! You understand the basics of gun design better than most people out there.

[@guts60]

I would have used a spring to pull up the magazine bottom instead of the rope wench. The springs allow you to only require a button press and a quick action rather than to manually crank the wench. However, you would then need to create a mechanism to stop the bullets getting in the way of the already loaded bullet, but I already have several ideas.

[@guywithatippmann]

Seeing your solution to the magazine follower and bolt were quite neat as a gun nut. It seems like you haven't seen how those problems have been solved in their minutia yet you came to pretty similar answers great vid man.

[@SadToffee]

He literally accidentally reinvented a normal shotgun shell, he made wadding, the shell, the ignition, the gunpowder, everything. This is why I love guns.

[@SadToffee]

He even made a crimp at the front of the shell.

[@SadToffee]

Oh my god he made a saiga without even knowing what it is. Dear god please make some real guns you accidentally created a simplified version of a saiga 12.

[@guiguipop3658]

been watching since you had a thousand subs! i knew you were gonna blow up on youtube, and now, you almost have 200k!! great vid too, as always!

[@hello-kp3qr]

you are one of the only youtubers that i could never watch as background noise, and that mean a lot

[@alloypaulson7520]

This person rediscovered wadding, chainfiring, etc. And then solved the problem, and still kept referring to the shells as bullets. You can tell this comes from engineering competence rather than familiarity with other people's solutions for guns

[@TheUmMagicPickleYo]

This was really sick! if there was a way to smooth out the inside of the barrel to stop them from getting stuck like that, it would've probably loaded faster and your design for the loading mechanism would've been smoother. I don't play besiege tho, so idk

[@BlueBot-jm2ro]

Great vid! One thing i noticed though. You might be able to make the pellet speed more consistent if you had more barrel for them. Still really impressive, though!

[@destroyertank14]

Not sure if it's even possible, but something along the lines of a missile or MLRS system would be very cool to see in besiege. Especially if they were guided :)

[@lizsigma9451]

The first part reminded me of a kid in my class who wanted to melt pens together to make a one shot disposable shotgun. Always stuck with me

[@Eliza-hb1nc]

?????

[@lightswitch2622]

????

[@lizsigma9451]

@@lightswitch2622 he basically wanted to be able to hold it in one hand which was basically the barrel that was just the shell and the firing mechanism in one fist and just slam his hand on the end to make it fire. I knew then it would cause the plastic to shatter but it still stuck with me. You also have to realize this was in freshman year of high school

[@mumblety]

looks good. i should make my own shotgun.

[@atomicwinter31]

For the magazine, you could have used sliders with a winch in order to prevent it from wiggling while it rises. Like, having the platform be connected to a few sliders on the underside, and the sliders would be connected to the main body of the magazine, So when you pull up with winches, it will only be able to move it along a single plane, instead of tilting or wiggling.

[@hellscape73]

You literally just walked through the engineering process of an entire shotgun, which is hilarious, because the ammo is curved and even has crimped ends just like how shells have the plastic in front of it and the load that is separated from the powder with a separator.

[@EeveeMaster547]

Absolutely loving how I watched your tank video and you commented on the range, of about 200 meters or something (I have no concept of distance) being pretty far And then I went back to this video where the shot can go over a mountain and your response is "mmm kinda trash range tbh"

[@adeelhabib553]

pew pew pew

[@ReidCaptain]

pew

[@oversecus833]

pew

[@ONI_002]

pew

[@destroyertank14]

pew

[@googboog1]

100% would love to see you make some homing missiles I've made some before so I know it's possible, I'd love to see how you tackle the task though

[@MrRedpanda2442]

this is really cool my man

[@ilovehumongoushonkers]

I think it'd be cool if you tried to scale this down using like tiny ballast blocks as pellets for tiny shotgun shells

[@drexil14]

I'm surprised you didn't use pipes to make it smooth like you used on some of your other builds to remove some friction. Great build!

[@fishrsa9046]

I love this guy and how he says SSSSSSSLIGHTLY and a LLLLLLITTLE BIT

[@schnabelborg]

I live your videos! It's really fascinating to see how you approach problems and find a solution.. This video in particular really reminded me of the games "Principia" and "Apparatus" (correct me if I am wrong with the spelling here :) )... They were sandbox games with a crazy community, but sadly got shut down due to server cost problems, if I remember correctly, and the kickstarter for a new version never collected enough money to start off. Does anyone else still know those game?

[@daniilantypov357]

Maaaan, u are amazing

[@Dept_Of_Homeland_Security]

The entire gub exploded as soon as the "and you had a bad day" part of the song played👌

[@beimanuel942]

the only person thats keeping besiege alive

[@CuteKyuubi]

This guy saw "Wooden Beam" and "Bomb" and went "Yes"

[@rrttttj]

You are lgit the only youtuber where I see you have uploaded and I go YES in an accidentally squeaky voice. You are my favourite youtuber.

[@jackfucker5897]

Perhaps a firearm where the shells eject semi realistically?

[@ReidCaptain]

It's possible, but I would need to scale it up to make sure the bombs don't ignite everything else since they would be a lot closer to the mag

[@TheeMistermono]

Thanks for the video! On weapons.. Perhapsa railgun or a matryoshka doll of jet fighters.

[@mooseman3528]

You are amazing dude

[@StillActuallyCharlie]

Once again, the bullet is the part fired. The entire unit is the cartridge, or in the case of shotguns, a shell.

[@fish_and-chips]

Eventually, a besiege player will be visited by an intelligence agency for accidentally remaking a classified weapon on some kind.

[@rebel6301]

You are an inspiration.

[@Zeethr3]

You could put wood panels in the barrel on the bottom to prevent jamming.

[@mitchelparker9132]

6:41 Something DID explode - the bomb.

[@poketopa1234]

Hey Reid! I think it could benefit a little bit by giving just 2 minutes at the beginning to explain your goals and overall plan. For example, I don't really know how shotguns or even bullet casings work, so explaining that at the beginning would be nice. I'm glad to see this channel has really taken off! :)

[@surtofgods8265]

He doesn't seem to either based on the terminology he is using but he made one and it's awesome. So I will explain a little, but it will sound like a lot. Generally shotguns are a smooth bore (they can be rifled but most aren't) that shoot either slugs (singular projectiles) or shot(multi projectiles) which he made. He also created what are commonly called "shells" which (from bottom to top) contain the primer (ignition device/spark), powder(thing that goes boom), wading/buffer, shot(the projectiles) and at the end a crimp which holds it all in place so it doesn't shake loose. So in summary Primer is set off, the powder goes boom, the buffer helps push the shot out past the crimp. I hope this helps and doesn't come off as rude or condescending.

[@poketopa1234]

@@surtofgods8265 That's a good explanation, thanks for the clarity :)

[@surtofgods8265]

@@poketopa1234 np

[@TheZombersLMAO]

It's scary how accurate that shotgun spread is

[@jaspertoons9494]

Awesome vid man

[@ferayeascioglu1071]

Smooth surface blocks

[@Techpriest.01]

Watching a man re-invent the shotgun shell is priceless

[@senatorstevenarmstrong7434]

This man sounds like nile-red. Simply amazing

[@knownas2017]

This was pretty cool. c:

[@burakalp34]

It's weird to be this early to such a great video without even being subscribed

[@ReidCaptain]

It's a sign, you gotta subscribe now

[@burakalp34]

@@ReidCaptain Maybe

[@TrueLunar10]

Man who has never made a gun reinvents the open bolt feed system in besiege. God help us when he makes another weapon.

[@R-73M]

Now we Need a man that loado the shells

[@bobi_lopataru]

I was screaming "SMOOTH SURFACE BLOCKS!" the entire video lol

[@messymessr]

Very cool! Any reason not to use a grabber to hold the bomb? Seemed like the ballast pinching device caught on the other parts of the mechanism a bit.

[@epicboii6693]

dudle this SHOTGUN looks like one of those fast firing guns

[@biggiecheese3377]

now you need a mech suit to use the shotgun

[@combine1134]

Reid now certified arm-dealer

[@lilflob]

could you use the smooth pieces to help the bullet glide through the barrel?

[@Roach18]

I watched the video 1 min after upload :D

[@GavinPetty]

6:21 guess you could say it's a "Projectile Dystfunction"

[@Yveldi]

shooting tiny people with a huge shotgun might be the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen done in besiege

[@defuegodiablo4249]

i watched this man design an actual fucking gun like i'd never seen it before

[@Elinzar]

this is the kind of Murica content i want now we need a .50 cal

[@cyrusthagreat6649]

Hey, if you ever make another one of these, maybe use 4 massive smooth surface blocks in the barrel to prevent the friction with the shell catching on the ballasts?

[@aembattledturtle8562]

It might’ve worked better if you lined the inside of the barrel with panels or something that the rounds could slide along

[@nelly5954]

Had you considered using railing pieces (the U shaped ones) in place of the long gaps in the barrel? That could reduce the friction and jamming.

[@ReidCaptain]

They can be tough to scale up and have the collision behave right, but they probably would have worked well

[@pikaland3852]

I watched this and now I have an idea for a double barrel pump action shotgun, it's not that difficult really, double this up, change the mag to a under barrel tube mag and then make the pump. as long as the shells in the tube don't explode it'll work.

[@silmarian]

I was about the leave to run an errand when I saw this pop up. Excuse me while I make myself late to my appointment...

[@BruhboyRR]

hey, i haven't played this game before but if the game has a conveyor you can use that to eject bullets.

[@Pigness7]

I'd like to see what you could do with learning more about firearms mechanisms

[@tweeleaf]

dude… i have to recommend people playground. it’s probably one of the best 2D physics games where you can make guns that can propel bullets in a pretty realistic way with certain settings. i’ve made a flintlock pistol with the most realistic mechanism possible and i can confirm it works very well if you build it right.

[@bartzabelclips1757]

this is not what the developers intended and I love it

[@Breadicius]

in the gun operators manual: *lower the m a g a s i n e when loading a round in the chamber*

[@deoghritlahare1938]

Make works machine or assualt gun next time pls and love your vids😍😍

[@xdarin_]

Now THIS is a siege!

[@L0rdLexan01]

Take a shot every time he says 'So I add some ballasts..."

[@itisMe04]

He eventually wound up unknowingly recreating a semi-normal (by besiege standards) shotgun shell.

[@sgtsaltstick2729]

Next time you design a bullet, add a little hole at the end of the front instead of blocking it. That way it keeps the bullets from leaking out, while being weak enough to not be disruptive.

[@splnter648]

Well this guy made a shotgun in besiege that actually works similar to real life and yet it looks like Scar-H with a thin receiver.

[@6_affair_7_sin21]

omg my eyes! ahhhhhhh!!!!!! holyshit he didn't notice the friction &the ruff surface of all the block

[@basspunk6666]

Ahh yah I remember learning about the dark ages and the semi auto shotguns they used to defend their castles