Making a (sort of) gear on the shaper.

[@peterridgway7355]

Thank for taking the time to show you working with a shaper. Although I don’t get much chance to use my shaper, I do enjoy working on it.

[@Rustinox]

Shapers are fun.

[@leerogers6423]

Again you show us simple solutions to problems using the tools we have rather than the ones we would like to have. This is what we all do all the time with our limited resources and it's good of you to share this with us all. All the very best to you and yours for the coming year . I'll raise a glass for you later.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Lee. That's the point of this KZbin channel. Making things from scrap with limitted tooling.

[@flatheadronsgarage7345]

Good to see you on the Tube. Ingenuity will prevail. Like your workaround gear cutting fixture. Nice job. 👍👍👍

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. More to come.

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

Key slotting and gear cutting on a shaper masterclass 👏👏👍😀 Well done on successfully improving your surface finish in such an inventive manner. Your personal Christmas gift was not only to you, but to everyone else. Bless you sir for being so strong.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Andrew. To me it was a special moment, to finally be able to spend some time in the workshop.

[@bostedtap8399]

Good to see a Rustinox vlog, and the shaper of course. Here's to a great MMXXI all, thanks for sharing. Regards John.

[@Rustinox]

Glad you enjoyed it, John.

[@rossgebert9422]

Truly enjoy your "overcoming obstacles" attitude. Now I have to binge watch Rustinox. Thank0you.

[@Rustinox]

It's like a puzzle. Piece by piece.

[@MrFactotum]

Hi M I am watching your shaper video's with interest, now i have got my little mini Adept shaper, this was a very well thought out set up for unusual work on the shaper. I've not used a shaper since my apprentice days, i am mainly Lathe and Mill, so your well explained video's are helping me brush up and refresh my shaper skills. thanks for sharing Cheers Kev

[@Rustinox]

Go for it, Kev. The more you do it, the more fun it is.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Michael. Glad you got to knock the dust off of the shaper.

[@Rustinox]

You bet.

[@bearsrodshop7067]

Very useful and learning all I can from you and other creators that have and use shapers. I watched Steve Summers set up using a rotor table & indexting fixture to do grear repair back a few years ago. I am fortunate to own a 10in Enco rotory table, but see indexing plates in my near future coming in to our shop. Nice set up Michel and was well shown and explained, Another year has flown by,,crazy after 65 how fast they come & go,,,Bear.

[@Rustinox]

It was an experiment. It needs some more tuning.

[@infoanorexic]

I indexed from a surplus gear that was slightly too large for what I needed, but had the same number of teeth, mounted on the opposite end of the shaft. Moved the ram position out to the index gear to clock the work, then back in to make the cut. Took me three attempts to get it close enough for the file & fiddly fit work. Not the easiest/most ideal way to do it, but it can work when other options are closed to you. J.B. From Oz, Geoffery Croker, and others have experimented with a shaper gear cutting attachment you can build. Looks like a good project to explore. When it works well (meaning, properly set up) , it seems to eliminate a lot of the headaches from using a form tool in a plunge cut.

[@Rustinox]

The method JB uses in his video is what i learned in school, but we never did get diep in to it. On the internet is also not much to find. I will continue experimenting.

[@TomMakeHere]

Great work, that provides an absolutely brilliant finish From the thumbnail I was thinking that will be the noisiest gear ever 🤣. So pleased it's more a ratchet than a gear

[@Rustinox]

It's just a "clicking sound" gear.

[@nigelmonicahobson1267]

Thanks for sharing and happy new year. Love the shaper, what a machine.👍👍👍

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. Love the shaper too.

[@kennyk6345]

Excellent solution and a great project! Happy to see you back in the shop. Happy New Year!

[@Rustinox]

Thanks, you too.

[@28gwdavies]

Great video Rusty, one of your best yet!

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Glyn.

[@Just1GuyMetalworks]

Nice! You'd be surprised how often those index-a-ma-thingies come in handy 😁. Now you could make 5 sided nuts if you really wanna mess with someone 🤣. All jokes aside, the end result looks great! Everett is an awesome guy! He's been a huge help to me as well 😊. Hope you had a Merry Christmas, Rusty! And here's to an awesome 2021! Cheers👍😁👍

[@howder1951]

I really like your comment about 5 side bolts, every one needs one of those in their toolbox to break up the dull times. Seasons greetings and cheers!

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Chris. We're all waiting for a new video from you...

[@Just1GuyMetalworks]

@@Rustinox I know brother 😊. Almost had it out last weekend but due to a catastrophic software glitch I lost my entire edit 😭... think I'm still traumatized 🤣.

[@rlferv]

Its great to see you making chips again!! I hope 2021 treats you better than 2020, Hell I hope that for everyone. Stay strong.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. 2021 will be better, i'm sure.

[@AJR2208]

Hi Rusty, Happy New Year to you and your family. It's great to hear more life in your voice. (fellow seafarer from Australia - I have to say, your bunker barge is much prettier than the ones I used to run in Sydney years ago.) Stay safe and keep healing :)

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Anthony. We put lots of effort in this barge to keep it as clean as possible.

[@AJR2208]

@@Rustinox It shows. Ours were very old & the owners were cheap skates.

[@hpda44]

Glad to see you’re back in health and working in the shop again. Looking forward to your next video

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. Working on it.

[@ronwilken5219]

Welcome back. We all missed your videos and especially your "made in Germany clamps". I trust your treatments have worked well. Have a happy new year celebration tonight since you already had a merry Christmas in the shop. All the best to you and yours for 2021 from Canada. May it be better than this past 2020 crap shoot.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Ron. 2021 will be better. Just have to be.

[@MaturePatriot]

You are looking good. I like the elegant simplicity of your clickspring device for your dividing head. A great video.

[@Rustinox]

Thank you. Simple is the best.

[@alext8828]

This is good. Good ideas all the way through.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks so much!

[@randykiefer]

Good to see you back. May you have a great 2021.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Randy.

[@normanfeinberg9968]

Very good work.Not easy to duplipcate a factory made part.I have never made a gear but I do understand the process.and I need to make one.I have a dividing head and a small milling machine so I have no excuses.I even have a pitch gage.Do I lack courage?Probably.Honesty first then we use our brains.I do not want to get lazy as I get old.These machines invite us to take up the challenge.Stay well keep fighting.I apologize for not watching sooner.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Norman.

[@eyuptony]

Hi Rustinox. Enjoyed watching your precision paper template in action. I agree with you, your flexible indexing finger is at fault. You also may need a stronger spring and/or a re-file to shape of the table drive feed pawl which engages on the 40 tooth gear you have just made. Great to see you back working in your workshop again. Eyup Tony

[@Rustinox]

Next time i'll make aspring loaded pal that fits the gear teeth.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

What a great excuse to have many different vice''s. Nice project and nice job, Rusty.

[@Rustinox]

Yes, thanks, but all of them are cheap junk vices.

[@JourneymanRandy]

Good to see you getting better. Very nice improvement

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Randy.

[@metalworksmachineshop]

so glad you out in the workshop.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. I am too.

[@sharkrivermachine]

That was interesting. Every time that I see you use the shaper I think that I would like to find one. I like the size of the shaper that you have. Thanks for sharing. It is good to see you recovering.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Steven. Having a milling machine makes the shaper a bit useless, but it's so much fun to operate... so go for it. When you get used to it you can't live without it anymore.

[@carlwhite8225]

Glad to see you and hope you are well.

[@Rustinox]

Yes. Thanks Carl.

[@anthonysaunders7345]

Enjoyed watching the shaper back at work. Wishing you a happy and healthy 2021 from England Rusti.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Anthony.

[@briansmart2045]

Great to see you looking and sounding a lot better . Hope this year ahead is a much better and healthier one for you . Happy n Blessed year to you and your family . Thank you for the interesting and clever approach to making your “ gear “

[@Rustinox]

Thaks Brian.

[@unclebobsbees4899]

Happy New Year Rustinox! 2021 will certainly not suck as bad as 2020. An alternative to the finger would be plate with holes and a pin. Obviously the diameter of plate is important.

[@Rustinox]

That's maybe a good idea. That could work.

[@richardmeyer418]

Thank you for the very interesting video, Rustinox. It really is good to see you back.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Richard.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

That is a very cool idea for increasing resolution on table step over, and I really like your ingenuity of setup. Glad you liked the little packages! Hopefully the HSS blanks are hard enough to hold an edge for a while (they are import after all), still haven't gotten mine in the mail yet to experiment with. I was figuring yours would be long enough to cut into 2 or 3 double ended tool blanks each to give you more bits to play with. Good to see you on the Tube again, a huge Happy New Year to you and your family from the 4 of us here!

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Everett. More experimenting to come.

[@davidandrews8566]

It looks to be a very promising idea. I wish you and yours a very happy new year

[@Rustinox]

Thank you David.

[@Machine_NZ]

Hi Rusty, Another great use for the shaper. I'm sure you will improve the dividing system. Happy New Year to you and family. Regards Kevin

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Kevin, i'm working on it.

[@PedroMoralesRuerte]

Happy 2021 for you and family, and for friends here on youtube.

[@Rustinox]

THanks Pedro.

[@leftturn99]

Shaper step over improvements are making the shaving pixes dance for Rusty, glad your back!

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Raymond, i'm glad too.

[@gregkernick4154]

Love how you explain different things ideas

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Greg. I do what i can.

[@djhscorp]

Thank you for your videos. Glad to see you looking well in the shop. Happy Days, and happy New year.👍

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. My pleasure.

[@bhein67]

That was a very creative way to set up for this project. It's wonderful to see you back in the work shop! Happy New Year to you and your family Cheers from Canada

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. With just a little bit of imagination...

[@glennfelpel9785]

Good to see you back and you know when you are getting better if you want to work again. Also, this was a good video. Thank you

[@Rustinox]

Thank you, Glenn.

[@charlesbowen3944]

Merry Christmas welcome back

[@Rustinox]

Thanks.

[@Engineerd3d]

Beautiful work. The result is awesome. I can't wait to see more from your shop. Happy New Year Michael.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Bruno. More to come.

[@malcolmtill]

That came out amazingly well what a great finish. With a little bit of fettling the teeth look to be working just fine. Many thanks for sharing this with us. Have a safe and happy New Year

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. It was an experiment but it turned out well.

[@lindasmart5099]

So good to see you in the shop again. Great video. Hope you have a great new year

[@Rustinox]

Thanks.

[@howder1951]

Great video Michel, I like to do things like that as well, just try it and see what happens, sometimes it works so well, other times it works, but you learn a bit so it goes better next time . Great to see you in the shop, and from us a swell, a very happy new year, may it bring you happiness,health and good fortune, cheers!

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. Never be afraid to give it a try. If it fails, it fails. Next time better.

[@BentBruunRasmussen]

Thank you another great shaper video :-) Happy New Year to you :-)

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. For you too!

[@fredrikkrysen4986]

Happy New Year from the middle of nowhere in North Atlantic

[@Rustinox]

Happy new year Frederik. Don't get seasick :-)

[@christophermaurer1271]

Very interesting watching you work it out. The best part for me is knowing you are much better and back to doing what you enjoy. Happy New Year Michel . Cheers from Australia.

[@Rustinox]

Absolutely! Thanks Cristopher.

[@tonyray4203]

"It looks like it was finished with dynamite" - Brilliant! thanks for sharing this idea, I will put it In my knowledge bank for when I get my shaper running which will be soon. Glad to see you and your cheap door again. Happy New Year.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Tony. Glad it was helpful.

[@argee55]

Another excellent video. Glad to see you back in the shop. Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks, you too.

[@craigtate5930]

Awesome project. I had to make a replacement ratchet wheel for my steptoe shaper some time back. No easy task at the time. Love your indexing plate, I have also seen someone use different sawblades with different tooth counts as indexing plates. Really make quick work for some projects

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Craig, it needs some more werk but we'll get there.

[@craigtate5930]

@@Rustinox I know you will :-)

[@rodbennett4790]

Fabulous!

[@Rustinox]

Well... it's just an idea.

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Thanks for sharing !

[@Rustinox]

And it works!

[@kimber1958]

I just know your getting better every day

[@Rustinox]

Thanks.

[@RaptorMachineToolCo]

Merry Christmas Michael....

[@Rustinox]

Thanks, for you too.

[@stevegreen2432]

Cutting accurate gears is best done with a multi-tooth cutter in the mill. Less shock loads. Also much quicker. But If you use a more accurate, and rigid, template and a stronger index pointer, your way will work. But remember that a real gear tooth is quite a long cutting face, hence high load on the whole of your mounting.

[@Rustinox]

That's how I do it now; kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYWaq5Sjp9SipJo

[@matspatpc]

Nice to see a new video, Rustinox! Hope 2021 is good to you!

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Mats.

[@peterparsons3297]

i wonder if when new different feed gears were available, but the surface finish is nice with the new gear

[@Rustinox]

The new gear looks good and it even works...

[@peterparsons3297]

@@Rustinox thats the main thing, the amount of things i've made that end up in the bin..... seemed like a good idea at the time ha ha

[@TheKnacklersWorkshop]

Hello My Friend, Good to see you looking well and making videos to educate and entertain us... Wishing you and your family all the best for 2021... Take care Paul,,

[@Rustinox]

Thank you very much Paul. It's more to entertain than to educate. I'm not a teacher :-)

[@PedroMoralesRuerte]

I liked your idea, this copier to make gears, I also do not have the divider and I am making a copier but I was in doubt if it would be possible to machine on the filing plane, now seeing your video gave more enthusiasm to do.

[@Rustinox]

Go for it.

[@PedroMoralesRuerte]

@@Rustinox I'm making this model : kzbin.info/www/bejne/hF6qi5Vmbt97l5o

[@PedroMoralesRuerte]

@@Rustinox I'm glad you're in good health.

[@JBFromOZ]

Very cool to see mate! Happy new year :-)

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. Happy new year.

[@bigbattenberg]

It occurred to me earlier that the clapper is really needed because the automatic feed is timed to move the table while the tool is on the return stroke. Essentially, at some point on its path, it climbs onto the uncut material. As this is not the case with plunging (of course it should be timed to only feed when the ram is in the retracted position) then the clapper function is not really needed , maybe apart from reducing tool wear.

[@Rustinox]

Indeed, you're spot on.

[@nevillebull716]

Great video, a suggestion is to perhaps use adapt and use lathe change gears as templates e.g. you want a 40 tooth gear use 80 tooth lathe gear and using every 2nd tooth gives 40

[@Rustinox]

Using a gear was also my first idea, but i don't have a 40 or multiple gear.

[@hitoortega1616]

Very good happy new year

[@Rustinox]

Thank you! You too!

[@peterparsons3297]

i believe after watching Adam Abom79 that a shear tool works really in in his shaper to give a good surface finish, i modified his idea and made one that works in my lathe, really good on softer metals and produces a finish that resembles a ground part. downside is it only removes a few thou at a time

[@Rustinox]

Indeed, the sheer tool works really well on cold rolled steel and brass. I never tried on aluminium.

[@peterparsons3297]

@@Rustinox i was quite surprised when i first saw one, works well on my lathe, i cannot comment on the shaper as i am not lucky enough to own one

[@pgs8597]

G’day Rusti. I’m glad to see the sheet metal plate work out, I was afraid it may slip a little with just the centre bolt. Happy new year. Cheers Peter

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Peter. It could be better but it seems to work.

[@AlmostMachining]

Mike, this is awesome. Great video, happy new year!

[@Rustinox]

Thanks! You too.

[@techronmattic5876]

Hey rusti, instead of the finger setup, maybe having holes in the plate with a locking pin may be more accurate, like the indexing plates you see on some of the old watchmaker lathes

[@Rustinox]

That's maybe a good idea.

[@chuirios365]

Happy New Year Michael to you and your family!

[@Rustinox]

Thanks. Happy new year!

[@rl3898]

An interesting video, many thanks and a better New Year to All. have you got a 40t or multiple gear on the gear set for the lathe which you could use as the divider ? You just have to make the latch then.

[@Rustinox]

Using a gear was also my first idea, but i don't have a 40 or multiple gear.

[@ljengineering2352]

Loved the video, subscribed. :) Do you have any lathe change gears you could use for a dividing plate? Then grind a pin that fits in the root of the teeth so there is no backlash.

[@ljengineering2352]

ChrisB257 has a setup like this on his lathe. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3zNaaCtrsqIZ7M 18:00 in shows the setup.

[@Rustinox]

Thanks for the sub. I had the same idea but i don't have a 40 or multiple gear.

[@AstraWerke]

Very well done - who needs a dividing head!? I wasn't expecting the L-irons to clamp the part tight enough for it not to chatter - well, sometimes I'm glad to be wrong :D Best wishes for 2021 Adrian

[@Rustinox]

Thanks Adrian. I only made very small cuts, and it worked.

[@terrycannon570]

Michael do you have the clapper locked ? Good to see you back to making things.

[@Rustinox]

No, the clapper was free to move.

[@bigbattenberg]

I may have missed it, but is the original 'gear' not functioning properly anymore? If so, what is the malfunction?

[@Rustinox]

The finest feed I had with the original gear was 0,15mm. Wit the new one it's 0,10mm.

[@bigbattenberg]

@@Rustinox Should have watched it in full before asking. Am now. Great video!

[@tooltimechris7217]

Nice to see you back in the shop! I have the same problem with my hembrug shaper. (With the original gear) sometimes the system does not engage and there is no movement on the table. Could it be that the spring is not tight enough anymore? Have a nice new years eve! Greetings from Holland

[@Rustinox]

Hi Chris, is it ok for you if i first fix the problem on my machine and anser you in an upcoming video? So we can share with everyone.

[@keesvantol4552]

Ik heb de zelfde ai schaafbank de vraag is, je gaat van 26 tanden naar 40 tanden maar blijft de diameter van het tandwiel gelijk?

[@Rustinox]

Inderdaad, Kees, de diameter blijft dezelfde.

[@HaxbyShed]

Hi, I spotted your toolpost cut off tool (angle grinder) which looks useful. Probably not this video - I forgot which video it was in now. Anyway, just wanted to say so I commented here.

[@Rustinox]

Indeed. I don't have a good parting tool (yet), so i build this system. More details at the end of this video; kzbin.info/www/bejne/iai2lHyDpLynmrc