Making Bushcraft Chairs at the Shelter - Axe, Fire and Cooking too!

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@TugBoat_Adventures
@TugBoat_Adventures 7 жыл бұрын
Great father and son quality time together!!!!
@antb101mb
@antb101mb 7 жыл бұрын
Great series, please keep it up. Hope my son & daughter still want to spend time with me the woods, having a brew and burger when they are older. Lovely! Thanks.
@maxfrost3524
@maxfrost3524 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video guys 👍🏻👍🏻
@melissajennings8185
@melissajennings8185 7 жыл бұрын
I am really liking the "dad" videos.
@JayRowMay.
@JayRowMay. 7 жыл бұрын
Melissa Jennings same
@lilthump113
@lilthump113 7 жыл бұрын
You can definitely tell where Mike gets his charisma from. Dad almost steals the show with his humor and interactions with the viewers.
@TheLiamLynchChannel
@TheLiamLynchChannel 7 жыл бұрын
Love your vids with your Dad. Good stuff. Here's my theory: I think fire came about two different ways. One would be flint mapping, whereby primitive man was banging rocks together to make sharp edged hand tools. You would have to bang many rocks together before you'd find two that sparked. The other way I think it could have happened, would be in making spears and arrows or bows. They wouldn't have many tools for smoothing down sticks (before more advanced hand tools occurred) and so their main way of smoothing down a walking stick, or spear, or arrow, would be to rub another piece of wood against to remove bark or small edges. Obviously, one of them realized the sticks had warmth to them after being rubbed and so they rubbed longer and soon smoke was happening. So my guess… basic tool crafting led to the discovery that two sticks got hot or smoked when rubbed together.
@daronusn5928
@daronusn5928 7 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, especially when you and your Dad get to spend such an awesome time together. You are an inspiration for getting outdoors and doing something fun, creative, and interesting! Keep it up!!!! Cheers from Cedar City, Utah...
@stevenwoody1629
@stevenwoody1629 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of your channel, I think it's awesome that dad & son are out camping together!!! also I love the chairs guys! keep up the fun and I look forward to more videos, you both take care!
@alanhoytakabudgetbushcraft2280
@alanhoytakabudgetbushcraft2280 7 жыл бұрын
Love how your camp is coming along, And you dad seems to be hooked on going out there too..... this time your spending together is awesome and the memories are priceless . And one last thing where is your puppy LOL
@CodyHa420
@CodyHa420 7 жыл бұрын
I like seeing you and your dad having fun : ).. he seems great
@WollongongWacko
@WollongongWacko 7 жыл бұрын
You guys together, is just awesome. inspiring.
@sharonwatt5386
@sharonwatt5386 Жыл бұрын
This is Why 🎉 Garry and I get on so well. Nothing to complain about. Just fix it or try x😅
@livstalklinga6804
@livstalklinga6804 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone wanted a hole in a plank an started to drill a hole with another stick an then noticed that it started smoking and turning black? recognizing that those are signs of fire they continued to add flammable materials until they got a fire! Love the chairs and theory time, and its nice to see you getting along so well with your father, so many family's are broken, even mine in some ways...
@jjtrasher
@jjtrasher 7 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna make a guess, I would imagine that the first people to discover friction fire truly "discovered" it themselves, and didn't "learn" it. Maybe they accidentally created a friction fire, and then tried to replicate it. I also noticed that your father rubbed his hands together during the video whilst talking about it, and thought that perhaps the primitive man noticed that rubbing his hands (to keep them warm) together generated heat, and then attempted to apply it with sticks? It's true science, in it's most basic state. Observing something, creating a theory, and then testing it. Very clever indeed. Where abouts in England are you? I live in Manchester and there's not really many woods nearby, unfortunately.
@ScrambledO
@ScrambledO 7 жыл бұрын
jjtrasher that was my thought. some felt heat from a fire caused by lightning, burning wood and recognized it as the same good feeling they get from rubbing hands to stay warm. they may have taken burned up wood and started rubbing it together again. until it got heat and smoke.
@ibustanut
@ibustanut 7 жыл бұрын
Scrambled O checking iinnnn
@JayRowMay.
@JayRowMay. 7 жыл бұрын
Scrambled O CHECKEN INNNNNN You and TA outdoors should do i collaboration together
@Drynet
@Drynet 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe early man used timber 'skids' on transport sleds and found in certain circumstances they would get hot and smoke? Maybe they even had sleds catch fire. Awkward if you only had third party insurance.
@Jaak_the_Belgian
@Jaak_the_Belgian 7 жыл бұрын
Drynet, I'd think they'd soon find that tiring, and invent wheeled sleds of which the axles then caught fire.The Insurance lawyers got into a heated debate on how they could cash in on that..
@dennishaswell9353
@dennishaswell9353 7 жыл бұрын
The tube is a great idea, just don't breath in!!
@lindamitchell-fox1926
@lindamitchell-fox1926 7 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a lady of the night so I don't want that position". Your dad is a hoot. I love him. Bring jaxx next time and I'll be in heaven. Loving your channel.
@nvue9887
@nvue9887 7 жыл бұрын
awesome loving the pops tagging along! more ideas!
@Sacwriter
@Sacwriter 7 жыл бұрын
Here's the theory I heard. Grass fires caused by lightning strikes are pretty common in some areas, they spread faster than most prey can run, so there was a lot of dead, roasted animals lying around. Most scavengers would stay away for days, but early man saw this as an opportunity for free barbecue, and learned to fire. Later on, someone was chipping flint to make tools when he noticed that if you strike a flint rock against a red rock with iron in it, then you could get sparks, which proved a pretty good way to impress the ladies on the cold and lonely winter nights in the back of the cave. Sooner or later the sparks fell on some dry grass or straw, and then the ladies were REALLY impressed! Now we had fire, although getting it was probably pretty difficult. Then one day, maybe a couple of thousand years later, another cave guy has found out how to make a bow drill to drill holes in wood, probably to make decorative jewelry to impress the ladies (are we noticing a pattern here?) To his delight, he finds out that if you use really dry wood for your spindle and hearth board, you can actually get smoke! And then one day he tried using a piece of wood with a crack in it and an ember formed, and now he had a better way to start a fire, which once again REALLY impressed the chicks. And that's the true story of how mankind learned how to make a friction fire: it wasn't to stay warm, or because he liked him some barbecued ribs. It was so he could get laid.
@mischef18
@mischef18 7 жыл бұрын
Another awesome vid guys I love that chair idea.
@FogDog68
@FogDog68 7 жыл бұрын
My theory is: they were trying to shape a piece of wood to make a particular tool/weapon and when they rubbed two different woods together they noticed a little smoke, looked at each other, grunted a couple times, then went after it even faster. Poof FIRE!! Love your videos. I could easily hang out with you two!!
@raymondbailey1970
@raymondbailey1970 7 жыл бұрын
top notch chairs camp is coming nice.
@ivanhorvat8964
@ivanhorvat8964 7 жыл бұрын
LOVE YOUR VIDEO !!! I hope that my daughter & I can do some campaigning soon ! I do so miss it a lot !!!!!!!!
@charliemoore2640
@charliemoore2640 7 жыл бұрын
I think that it may have happened through pure curiosity. Similar to today, scientists experiment and discover something new. Keep these videos coming :)
@trail-manvan7339
@trail-manvan7339 7 жыл бұрын
I found this video to be so funny because right before winter me and my dad went camping and had the same conversation. we both came to an agreement that it had to of been an accidental discovery prolly due to the fact they were probably just messing g around with wood and started one but just my opinion. keep up the great videos
@bushman4124
@bushman4124 7 жыл бұрын
nice video good chemise between you too, a tip instead using big lumpy plastic pipe ( when burns it it is really bad for your lungs) you can use an old telescopic car antenna it works like a charm is light weighted and small to carry. keep them coming
@isleofwightdave2286
@isleofwightdave2286 7 жыл бұрын
Another great upload guys. Looking forward to the next fishing one too :-)
@DerTintinfish
@DerTintinfish 7 жыл бұрын
Really awesome angles in the intro!
@simonmorley9962
@simonmorley9962 7 жыл бұрын
great vid guys! keep 'em coming.
@josephleister9198
@josephleister9198 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks fellas..
@JohnQPublic11
@JohnQPublic11 7 жыл бұрын
The part I don't get is why you didn't build a 3 sided wall around the perimeter of where the tarpaulin lean-to sleeping space is and then run a pole tree to tree and tarp a roof over that?
@riccartwright5623
@riccartwright5623 7 жыл бұрын
really like your videos, ya'll make a good team ... Thanks
@TeeVeeZed123
@TeeVeeZed123 7 жыл бұрын
Ancient civilisations probably first saw fire when it happened naturally, after a lightning strike probably. They probably then managed fire by carrying coals from place to place and then thought about how to actually create fire when keeping coals or embers wasn't always successful and they went out, observing sparks when making flint tools also may have 'ignited' some ideas.
@Jaak_the_Belgian
@Jaak_the_Belgian 7 жыл бұрын
Tracer123, have you ever seen the film? - Quest for fire (La Guerre du feu, 1981). In the comments someone mentioned Ika, and she is a character in that film. One thing you say sounds like a mistake. Fire was tamed long before civilisation took off. Civilisations really began when communities were farming and got organised.
@Nick-wv4kg
@Nick-wv4kg 7 жыл бұрын
great job! keep up the amazing work!
@judymalley7808
@judymalley7808 7 жыл бұрын
Have you ever watched Quest for Fire? As good and explanation as any
@shaunsimmons3434
@shaunsimmons3434 7 жыл бұрын
The plastic isn't the best for blowing on the fire except when you're starting it. I have a metal 3 piece tube (2 piece now, but I still have the 3rd somewhere) from a lamp or summat. 1/4 inch or a little bigger, so it concentrates the breath quite nicely, and stainless steel, so it doesn't melt when you use it to prod the fire later on. The PVC will melt and burn (and produce toxic gas), so you have to be much more careful with it, but any metal pipe, especially one that's threaded so that it can be taken down or put together to create more length, is prime. In a pinch you can use a cane from Phragmites, Bambusa, or Arundo, so long as you cut between the nodes or pierce the nodal walls. Or cut a piece of birch bark (or a similarly papery bark, think Eucalyptus in Mediterranean climates) and roll it into a tube!
@sjntube
@sjntube 7 жыл бұрын
Absolute GREAT channel guys. The only thing I could imagine to make it better would be to set this shelter up lakeside and change the channel name to TA Fishcraft. A brilliant melding of TA Outdoors and TA Fishing. Hahahaha.....
@radraven5757
@radraven5757 7 жыл бұрын
11:17 soapwort was also a cleaner, which actually work pretty well!
@autisticcormorant6881
@autisticcormorant6881 7 жыл бұрын
Hi TA Outdoors, i've been watching your videos for a while and i've really wanted to do some real bushcraft and i just recently got permission to bushcraft in a coniferous forest measuring about 4 acres and i am really happy. I'm planning on building something along the lines of your camp, but with more editions :D -Keep up the good videos (Especially the camp updates)
@janlindenberg2583
@janlindenberg2583 7 жыл бұрын
I think fire by friction was a discovery. Probably happened when drilling a hole in wood. Then somebody accidently lit it's project and voila, fire!
@richardpierce3227
@richardpierce3227 7 жыл бұрын
jan lindenberg I agree this is most likely
@patzx24me29
@patzx24me29 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe durning a wind storm they saw trees rubbing together and smoking. I was camping one time and two trees were rubbing together and smoking and did finally start on fire. I have been camping for years and could never make toast that good. Take care guys!
@fishingiow4184
@fishingiow4184 7 жыл бұрын
hi guys great vid be careful when cooking on wire like that because it's coated in a antirust paint and when it heats up it comes off and isn't very good to eat
@ZZoutdoors
@ZZoutdoors 7 жыл бұрын
I think that quartz had a lot to do with first fire. They lived in caves, right? Or did they? Great place to sit around the fire guys. Thanks. ZZ.
@fumasterchu12
@fumasterchu12 7 жыл бұрын
I like the cooking basket you made, was that fencing you used to make that? I always enjoy watching your videos and especially with dad included. That is one nice camp you guys have, and I'm sure you'll always look back at these times with fond memories. Cheers!
@ManLand
@ManLand 7 жыл бұрын
Cave man thinking...I like it...let me put my primitive mind on this one and see if I can conclude a possible answer...I think I will give the answer in a video...lol.
@swroberts88
@swroberts88 7 жыл бұрын
your dad reminds me of Mr Bean..... in the bet possible way tho...... great channel, thanks
@Islandhuntingandoutdoors
@Islandhuntingandoutdoors 7 жыл бұрын
These videos are awesome!
@kolt193
@kolt193 7 жыл бұрын
The smell was probably the same as when the lightning burned the wood, when you rub your hands together you can sort of smell the friction burning when youre wearing gloves, my guess is that when the lightning striked the wood and they saw the fire, they took notice of the smell and one thing led to another and they figured out the premise of friction , then tried with objects, trial and error type thing.
@imeeky_4635
@imeeky_4635 7 жыл бұрын
good to see you guys getting the views u deserve
@eddylonergan142
@eddylonergan142 6 жыл бұрын
Difficult question!! I watched a Ray Mears clip where he was in the amazon. The Tribe he was with,would travel 2 days for supplies and 2 days back. one of the things they brought back was a gas lighter. They had forgotten or wasn't passed down how to make a fire,they had an idea but it didn't work. He then showed them. The faces gleamed they had found a piece of history they'd lost. I don't know the answer to the question,maybe by default. They where trying to do something else and they had by luck found combustion.
@macbilling6410
@macbilling6410 7 жыл бұрын
That toast looked lovely Mmmmmm
@sardes1985
@sardes1985 7 жыл бұрын
your both so lovely and very clever. your very talented. I love watching ta outdoors and ta fishing. you really have interesting questions/ theorys.🤔 graham what did you do as a job? 😎✌👍
@flynn687
@flynn687 7 жыл бұрын
I believe that early humans discovered fire by accident or observation but what really set us apart was language that allowed us to easily teach that ability and thrive.
@tpalarczyk
@tpalarczyk 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Can you tell me what is your camera you recorded this clip? Awesome quality.
@AllenDeYoung
@AllenDeYoung 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting question -- suggest reading Catching Fire by Richard Wrangham on the origins and reasons behind making fires by early hominids; fascinating reading. Thanks for the video from a new subscriber. :-)
@colesiegler1789
@colesiegler1789 7 жыл бұрын
If your traveling light speed and you turn on a light what happens
@billyorourke654
@billyorourke654 7 жыл бұрын
next you should make a recliner couch
@terryphillips229
@terryphillips229 7 жыл бұрын
instead of plastic pipe i use an old telescopic aireal gives a nice jet and can fit in your pocket
@radraven5757
@radraven5757 7 жыл бұрын
Its a good idea to use a log at the bottom rather than a frame
@Muerte1917
@Muerte1917 7 жыл бұрын
love the video
@steffangriffiths7508
@steffangriffiths7508 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! The oil thing doesnt make sense as it assumes that gravity is acting on the Earth, when it isnt. If you go into space with a ball made of two halves, and one halve is heavier than the other, it wont face down will it, because there's no gravity. Though i guess the density change would mean some parts of the Earth would have a higher gravity than other parts. Thought the Earth does weigh 5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons, so i doubt it would have much effect at all. Cool idea though!
@stewartrobertson2337
@stewartrobertson2337 7 жыл бұрын
maybe they noticed a spark when they were throwing stones, when the stones hit each other it made a spark,and it went on from there, eg,,banging,& then rubbing sticks together and noticing the heat that produced,, that's my opinion, that's what I thought up,!!cheers, Stewart,
@stevied8855
@stevied8855 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys, Maybe Caveman made a Camp bed and making Babies with Woman the friction on the bed joints caught fire. Ha Ha. Great Stuff. Steve in Fife.
@ButterNutterTheBear
@ButterNutterTheBear 7 жыл бұрын
from what I've read in my science books is that one we came from a common ancestor of primates. Also many ancient civilizations depicted images of humanoid creatures coming from the sky. So i think it was taught to them just like their form of writing and language by a superior species. but that's just my thoughts.
@kevintomlinson100
@kevintomlinson100 7 жыл бұрын
I think they seen two trees rubbing in the wind 😂
@SoldierDemps
@SoldierDemps 7 жыл бұрын
Be careful with that plastic tube so close to the fire, heating plastic can release some nasty and toxic chemicals/fumes.. really smart concept too though!
@semdijkstra9784
@semdijkstra9784 7 жыл бұрын
how was elektricity discovered, and writing, and boats ? it is just curiosity
@Bonestonecrusher
@Bonestonecrusher 7 жыл бұрын
When trees fall they can create a friction fire. I'd imagine they would try to replicate it with smaller sticks. And i seriously doubt it was a fast process.
@Yamety2012
@Yamety2012 7 жыл бұрын
I wish I was able to do this with my dad
@cheerios1700
@cheerios1700 7 жыл бұрын
nice
@barriewatson
@barriewatson 7 жыл бұрын
l have a wooden fire starter l bought in the south of France they have used them for generations it's a branch with a length of 70cm and 4 to 5 cm thick at the top going down to 3,5cm at the bottom and it has a small hole about 8mm drilled right through (l do not know how they drill it ) at the top end they leave a 15cm small branch sticking out the side to hold on to about the same angle as your hook on the tree. Regards barrie
@ajdexter4195
@ajdexter4195 7 жыл бұрын
maybe a cave man was try ing to saw a pice of would wood wuth a other pice of wood and that made the friction that made the embers also i love this chanle and tafishing keep up the good work thanks
@johncampbell335
@johncampbell335 7 жыл бұрын
My guess: early man used flint before friction. In the process of making cutting tools they must have occasionally created sparks. Equating 'spark=lightning' and 'lightning=fire' and 'spark=fire' must have taken a while to realize. Once they mastered the means to create fire by flint, they had more 'leisure' time to sit around the fire and experiment with other methods, or to stumble across it accidentally. Or, totally not this.
@JayRowMay.
@JayRowMay. 7 жыл бұрын
John Campbell Google hey? Lol
@austinricchio5709
@austinricchio5709 7 жыл бұрын
For a second thought that it was a primitive technology video...
@artmajor1
@artmajor1 7 жыл бұрын
How deep in the woods is this camp?
@paulawyatt1478
@paulawyatt1478 7 жыл бұрын
it could have been as easy as two branches crossing and wind blowing and them rubbing and catching fire and some one saw it catch fire .. just a thought ?
@mebe1274
@mebe1274 7 жыл бұрын
I believe the first man-made fires came from rocks. Picture hairy cave-man-dude throwing a rock at potential food and missing. But the rock hits another rock and creates a spark. That certainly would have excited cave-man-dude. Causing them to try again at throwing rocks at other rocks. So guessing that lightning started fires, probably comprised the majority of the first fires that man saw, and they put two and two together and started using rocks for all kinds of tools.
@chuanmarihuan2343
@chuanmarihuan2343 7 жыл бұрын
Well guy wanted to drill a hole into the wood using another piece of it and accidentally made an amber I guess...
@tinaturner134
@tinaturner134 7 жыл бұрын
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@dc_242
@dc_242 7 жыл бұрын
After a mistake in making flint weapons, Ayla recognized that sparks from striking a 'firestone' of iron pyrite with a piece of flint can start a fire. Duhhhh!!! haha :)
@edgardner9795
@edgardner9795 7 жыл бұрын
Our caveman ancestors would've noticed some rocks create sparks. They would understand that friction creates heat. I think we underestimate our dear old cavemen. Necessity is the mother of invention.
@kylejewell5598
@kylejewell5598 7 жыл бұрын
My guess would be that something caught on fire from lightning or the suns heat and that taught them what heat could do and then someone noticed that their hands would get warmer when they rubbed them together, and then they tried rubbing things together to cause heat. But what do I know.
@fingaonthatrigga
@fingaonthatrigga 7 жыл бұрын
love being outdoors hunting and fishing hate having to come back and face reality. rub your hands together hard and fast and then you'll see y maybe they came up with the sticks.
@berendjongbloed2731
@berendjongbloed2731 7 жыл бұрын
And about the theory I think the saw that fire was something hot then somebody realized that when two things have friction it gets warm so with more friction you can get fire
@serenitycraft8557
@serenitycraft8557 7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the primitive mankind used sticks to dig up food that grew wild and realized that their hands got warm when rubbing the stick against another object such as the ground of their palm. A bit of warmth is just the start, perhaps someone used 2 or 3 sticks to dig with and accidentally started a spark. At that point, replication would fairly easy to figure out.
@MM-on5pm
@MM-on5pm 7 жыл бұрын
You should watch the movie "Quest for Fire."
@danielheller9624
@danielheller9624 7 жыл бұрын
someone probably felt the friction heat when rubbing two sticks then though hey i wonder if this can get even hotter
@pitterotoole3038
@pitterotoole3038 7 жыл бұрын
i havent watched all the videos,so i havent heard all the "thinkers" BUT!!! what about bow and arrows? the chinese, vikings, saxons, native americans, inca/aztecs, african tribes, mongols all had them in history. how did they all come up with their own version? seperated by oceans and deserts?
@eddiecarlcalhoun
@eddiecarlcalhoun 7 жыл бұрын
interesting movie to watch..."the quest for fire"....
@theohardwicke231
@theohardwicke231 7 жыл бұрын
I presume this was filmed before the pulley - tarp system video.
@Jaak_the_Belgian
@Jaak_the_Belgian 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like it, and Graeme is thinking about it.
@hitsujiyume
@hitsujiyume 7 жыл бұрын
my personal theory on the development of fire...some kid was bothering his mom too much, so she gave him a couple of bits of wood and said go amuse yourself.
@berendjongbloed2731
@berendjongbloed2731 7 жыл бұрын
Maby the next time not a plastic tube it stinks if it melts because the fire is getting real hot
@muhamedmuslic2534
@muhamedmuslic2534 7 жыл бұрын
Okay, whats with the time line, this video is the prequel to the Roof pulley video ?
@dannyboythecowboy3680
@dannyboythecowboy3680 7 жыл бұрын
i guess the stone age ppl just noticed that things warm up if you reap them together. like of you reap your hands.... so they tried some materials....sticks too
@mediasubway
@mediasubway 7 жыл бұрын
If you rub your hands together you warm up your hands. I imagine that some monkey man, from days of yore, had a bit of spare time on his hands and was buggering around with two sticks (as you would do if you were bored). Once he saw smoke coming from it, he probably just used it to show off, until one day (whilst being a smug git in front of his pals) turfed the apparatus away accidentally onto some dry grass - and WOOFT! - he discovered fire. One thing's for sure, that dude would've been considered a powerful magician amongst his peers, and was probably feared until someone else discovered his secret.
@ajsimpson7816
@ajsimpson7816 7 жыл бұрын
I think when they rubbed there hands together which made friction and heat so they must of known that wood was a fuel so I think that's why
@bryanhikes7248
@bryanhikes7248 7 жыл бұрын
I think maybe some primitive human was trying to drill a hole in a peice of wood with another and eventually realized he could make an ember with a little persistence and applied it to a tinder bundle.
@indiefruit
@indiefruit 7 жыл бұрын
Early man would have used naturally occurring fires (wildfires in Africa) before learning how to make it themselves. I assume a flint spark fire would be far easier to accidentally discover than friction fire.
@thibaultjaberg4658
@thibaultjaberg4658 7 жыл бұрын
Well they will have notices quite early that friction creates heat. And sometimes when you make something with wood and for example you saw a piece of though wood it gets really hot. Also I don't think it was one person that invented fire making it will have taken a few generations from the basic idea to the first flame. It might have been a bit like flying, the dream of being able to fly is a lot older than the first plane. And maybe when a guy told that he was trying to make I fire himself everybody was laughing and thinking he was crazy. Who knows?
@fishingiow4184
@fishingiow4184 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah lol that's what I ment
@rockyflagg
@rockyflagg 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe from making tools and friction caught the wood burning and hmmm-Fire.
@kymfrohwein9163
@kymfrohwein9163 7 жыл бұрын
For the theory. they probably noticed sparks while splitting stones for tools and being the inquisative species we are they would have simply had to experiment with that effect.
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