Making of Time Ghost: Using DOTS ECS for complex environments

[@SaraQueen-n9f]

Please consider making a detailed tutorial on DOTS ECS for a simple game-it’s the only way most of us can learn to use it effectively.

[@olemangrandpa9566]

What Sara said!!

[@songerk7102]

There is actually, and a multiple of them.

[@user-iw1gy7ev6e]

There are many tutorials and example projects on the Unity website/Github already. They are just not very simple/easy to follow, as even the simplest gameplay systems require multiple classes/script files and tons of code. A good example is the ECS Galaxy Sample project, it comes with a detailed documentation.

[@DanielKierkegaardAndersen]

This is what "Connecting the DOTS: Let's make a game with Entities" is all about, try giving it a watch and write a comment in case there's parts you dont understand, I would be more than happy to help :)

[@Armadous]

Great video demonstrating how bespoke and unapproachable the Ghost demo was of what you can reasonably expect to accomplish with Unity. If you want to use this tech, you specifically need the Ghost demo. The features presented here are not from the Unity editor itself.

[@JuniorDjjrMixMods]

Please make these LOD tricks as standalone editor tool.

[@GadgetGamesAU]

So, basically, if you're creating Terrain in Unity: -Don't use Unity Terrain to render details like grass -Don't use Unity's builtin Terrain painting system to place your grass on the terrain -Don't use Unity's builtin LOD system for handling LODs on the terrain -Don't use Unity's Wind component for wind -Don't use Unity's builtin shaders for shading things on the terrain -Don't use Unity's builtin collision system for collisions with details on the terrain Guys, I know your job was to make a demo scene, but you need to speak up more internally to fix this. How hard would it honestly have been just to ship a few things like a grass shader and the impostor generator into the engine, even via a package! It's crazy.

[@tufanaydin6340]

Hugely amazing breakdown video thanks

[@kleioscope]

This is..... WOW :o However you & Unity should ALWAYS mention on wich kind of hardware this could work ;) thanks a lot for this awesome piece of GC :D

[@shikhermyv]

It works fine for me in 4060

[@LittleBlue42]

Cool, how can we do this in Unity without having to use houdini?

[@neilmarkcorre5524]

Just would like to say thank you and the team did a lot of clever tricks with handling LODs and Staging Worlds. Kudos!

[@theebulll]

These videos are always a great reminder of how little I know about art.

[@soma78]

That looks all nice and stuff, but isn't Houdini a paid product ? Is there a workflow that involves a free tool, perhaps Blender ?

[@Ugur_Can_Kuru]

Great job

[@ensapra]

So basically, use Unity as a shell, discard everything that is there, and build your own micro-engine inside of it. got it

[@saphirah6584]

Yes, even the unity team needs to do everything themselves. But this is not what a game engine is for, and is my biggest issue with Unity. A game engine is supposed to provide to you ready-made solutions for common problems, so you can focus on building the game. For example imposters is a technique used for over 10 years in almost every game, but Unity still does not have this implemented. At this point Unity feels more like a sandbox for tech artists. Unreal Engine is going in a good direction there, where you just import your stuff, and it auto generates LOD's, imposters etc... But their tools don't work as they should... Yet.

[@ensapra]

@@saphirah6584 Yeah. It has its pros and cons. Having a blast implementing my own solutions and learning from it, but yeah, there's so little that it's ready made or up to date to today standards. If you want to have almost full control it's great, but if you expect to have everything ready, like what I would expect of a game engine, then Unity is not for you anymore. Sadly, that could easily be changed by the Unity team, but they are not that good at finishing products. They love starting and discarding

[@saphirah6584]

Meanwhile in UE5 you can just do that with 2 clicks in the editor... This video perfectly demonstrates, why Unity is not used for realism... But i don't think that is what Unity should strive for. Keep making a good and approachable engine for indie dev's. That is your target audience.

[@DeltaZavr.]

Unity Engine it is "From Devs to Devs" , Ue5 is "from Devs to Artist"

[@AntiMatsu]

So that's why new games on UE5 are so slow and cause players to hate the engine 😅 Instead of spending time on good optimization developers on UE5 make 2 clicks in the editor, relying on Nanite and other systems to do all the work for them 😊

[@saphirah6584]

Both engines have their issues. But if you want to make a short film like time ghost, I would argue that doing it in unreal is much more efficient than in Unity. Like more than 10x faster, as this video perfectly demonstrates.

[@Ran_Dum]

This is so cool! Please keep making similar videos ❤️

[@mykytamarkianov4870]

"I. Understand. Nothing." I wish all those tricks were out of the box tbh 😅

[@yonisharabi7297]

👍👍

[@UnitCodesChannel]

I think this could have done better explaining DOTS for beginners. Nonetheless i think its still good start.

[@ZombieTroll-z7j]

A bit over my head lol!

[@songerk7102]

Video called "Using DOTS", 50% of the video is about Houdini 🤷‍♂ and as for my knowledge, most games that have been created my Unity, aren't using Houdini

[@thFaust]

you are not wrong, but I think that's why he explained the data of the point cloud in that much detail. To make it obvious that data could come from any custom source.

[@AntiMatsu]

I can tell you're not interested in AAA game development. Spider-Man developers released a devlog about how they generated the whole Manhattan in Houdini, and not only geometry, but also routes for traffic, pedestrians, partially game logic, etc. The result is amazing, but that doesn't mean that the Spider-Man engine is not capable of anything. On the contrary, it is very cool, since it can render such a large detailed city. Similarly, developers of Far Cry and many other AAA-projects generated their worlds in Houdini. And this Unity video logically explains where they got all these gorgeous looking locations and assets before telling how they managed to render them with good FPS

[@songerk7102]

@@AntiMatsu Tell me how many games in Unity were created with Houdini? Currently the target audience of Unity Engine is Indies and Mobile Games, and almost none of them use Houdini.Indies don't use mostly because of the high price it costs to use Houdini.

[@Armadous]

@ This Demo seems specifically targeted at Unreal and the film industry - where Houdini is a common. I agree, this is not for indies and small studios.

[@GadgetGamesAU]

@@AntiMatsu And every AAA game, including the ones you've listed, is costing more these days than ever before. This is where Unity used to excel - in democratising game development because you *could* do everything in-engine. Unity are a tech company with plenty of good people working for them, the goal should be for Unity to become the next Houdini, not promote it for free in their own engine marketing videos.

[@hiperfx892]

Please make a Video on the Volumetric Cloud settings

[@nikefootbag]

Oh.. I saw spotlight and thought “Creator Spotlight”…

[@kadiryumlu]

Please never drop support for OOP. *ECS* good but not beginner friendly. It can be end of indie developers era for Unity.

[@tubaeseries5705]

they won't, they announced that game objects will be internally backed by entities, so if all goes according to the plan we will get most benefits of entities(like ecs instancing), while being able to write regular good old components, as well as entities code if multithreading is needed

[@GHX57]

I want to do this in blender, I'll be famous bc none of y'all can do bc you didn't.

[@TheGroundskeeper]

Once again unity publishes a video that is not helpful, mislabeled, poorly edited, and frustrating