DIY Tracked Vehicle Part 2 - Engine and Frame

[@MakingStuff]

Work continues on the DIY Tracked Vehicle. I think the engine is too big, what do you think? Can you have too much power?

[@blackjack117200]

I’ve wanted for a long time to build a tracked vehicle, one or two seater, dune buggy/ripsaw style, but aside from finding an already engineered track system I had no idea where to start, it would still be a bit of a different scale, but you’re definitely inspiring me to put some more serious thought into it.

[@VolgClawtooth]

if it doesn't generate enough power to cause structural damage, then it is not 'too much' power.. That said gearing to keep the speed sane while increasing the torque is a good idea.

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Yes, when the diff is rated for 10 hp. I'm actually downgrading from my 13hp, figured I don't really need all that power.

[@jeff81008]

I really don't think so but I'm looking into working with two hydraulic motors to run each belt separate but I'm looking into hauling upto four disabled Veterans that are going out on elk hunts so power is a big thing for what I'm planning. Has to be built light but sturdy to handle whatever they throw at it.

[@dividingtruth]

More Power is GOOD!! Great project.

[@jvmiller1995]

putting a hitch on that little guy would make moving boat trailers and tuff around in tight spots a dream. I bet you could even use it to pull a single bottom plow like a garden tractor. It is a pretty cool build. I have MS and am planning on building a track machine for future use to get around in the woods when I get to the point I need help getting around. It would be pretty cool to make one a bit wider with the motor forward or backward so a wheelchair could roll right up in between the two tracks. and lock in.

[@BaxterKaleb]

I can't wait to see the finished project!

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Yes, you are running into basically all the exact same problems I did, welcome to the club!

[@alecjames1426]

Better to have to much than not enough just because it’s their doesn’t mean you need to use it only when you need to 👍👏

[@MakingStuff]

Thanks!

[@42Fab]

MOAR POWER MOAR BETTER! This project has me geeking out about my own tank idea. My old zero turn mower has a ruined deck and belt assembly but a hella strong 22HP motor and the differential steering system. Add it to the project list...

[@MakingStuff]

Check out the vehicles Tank Commander is making. He started out with an old zero turn mower and has improved the design over time.

[@772777777777777]

Where did you soure the rear differential from

[@DanielDiCesare]

Amazing work!!! Going to use your idea to build a track!!! Thanks for sharing

[@MakingStuff]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

That is a very ambitious project. It should be interesting all the way through.

[@georgeshuman8405]

My first visit to your channel. Very interesting and informative! I look forward to the next video of the track vehicle.

[@MakingStuff]

Awesome, thank you!

[@blackhawkinternationalsecu6962]

"I think this engine is a little too big..." WHAT?!?!?! NEVER TOO BIG!!!! Of all the channels I follow, this project has me biggest interest.

[@MakingStuff]

Thanks for watching!

[@DktheWelder]

This is really cool very well built. I do think it will be very heavy, but will have some serious pulling power!

[@MakingStuff]

I hope so! Thanks for watching!

[@2pist]

Subscribed! Awesome job! You have taught me a bunch about precision with this video. Thank you!

[@MakingStuff]

Thanks for the sub!

[@raulc.]

You are a down to earth guy. Love you videos. Keep them coming.

[@MakingStuff]

Thanks 👍

[@HarlyHunk]

I built one similar to this one. I used a 6.5 Predator, since they were $99. It would do just fine with a 2.5 or 3 HP.

[@madpete6438]

It has more power - more is better !

[@rallymax2]

Great build. Looking forward to the next video.

[@MakingStuff]

Thanks 👍

[@foxwood67]

How often do you hear somebody say …. It’s got too much power. Liking the build 👍

[@MakingStuff]

Good point!

[@09FLTRMM77]

MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼

[@TheDistur]

Looks like it will be fun!

[@SaweraKumail]

Love you man .. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@glennmoreland6457]

Good video 🇬🇧🙂

[@MakingStuff]

Thanks!

[@johnkillen588]

give em hell harry!

[@sebsshed4517]

Wow mate that will shift. My machine only had a Honda 5.5hp and it is fairly quick. I had the same alignment issues and had to use a jack shaft as you guys in the states call them. Very substantial build. Loving it so far. Hope you’re well.

[@MakingStuff]

Thanks, all good here in the US.

[@sebsshed4517]

@@MakingStuff good to hear. Been a good few years since I was last there. Spent a good deal of my child hood going to Florida. Where are you based?

[@delandbrooks3291]

JFYI Northern Tool Carries the Duramax engines. BTW "Stanton" in Ok carries all the stuff for a "Peerless differential".

[@1945jlee]

Nice...

[@Awareduck]

what sprocket did you use for the differential?

[@Cheva-Pate]

You probebly noticed, the track direction is not the same on both side! Sweet project!

[@MakingStuff]

Yeah it has been fixed. Thanks for watching!

[@lotuselanplus2s]

Looks like youre planning to use a jackshaft to get the drive from the torque converter assy to the sprocket on the diff, i'd place the jackshaft to the rear of the engine and then pass the second chain under the engine mount and straight to the diff sprocket, the engine size is good, i'd rather have more power than i need than not enough power, you could have made the whole engine mount assy to bolt to the frame though instead of welding it on, that way you could always remove it if you needed to get to the diff assy.

[@MakingStuff]

Yeah that's a good idea about bolting the mount to the frame. Thanks for watching.

[@MiniLuv-1984]

I was thinking the diff sprocket and the converter sprocket are way out of alignment - then you provided the obvious solution - a jack shaft. I feel so dumb.

[@dwaynelejeune3508]

Not something I would make!, but,so cool to watch it being built!!!! As for as the motor, go big R stay home!!!

[@carlitomadrona6211]

That's awesome project. It's just that, it has no reverse because there's no gearbox. It's dependent solely on its steering when turning around.

[@MakingStuff]

Yeah that's the only draw back. Thanks for watching!

[@MrZubin007]

Sir i respect your creativity and i how i wish i could experiment with you.

[@mkegadgets4380]

I’m really enjoying a series. Do you have a lead ins on the slots on the motor plate on the wrong side?

[@MakingStuff]

Thanks for watching, not sure about the lead ins.

[@lotuselanplus2s]

@@MakingStuff Where the plasma cutter started to make the cuts for the motor mount holes, would have been better to start the cuts from inside the holes that you wish to cut instead of from the outside and having to fix the cut marks.

[@MakingStuff]

Yes I had Sheetcam set to Outside Offset. It should be Inside Offset. I have already made a new plate. Will show it in next video.

[@MakingStuff]

@@lotuselanplus2s Yeah, had Sheetcam set to wrong setting.

[@mkegadgets4380]

Sometimes you miss the little thing, when working on the big picture…

[@ГригорийСтупаков-э9ы]

Добрый вечер. Где можно купить такой маленький дифиринциал....??!?

[@772777777777777]

Is this rear diff available in 2023 where did you source it...

[@diabolicalmachine]

Have you crunched numbers for gear ratios and such with the big engine? 150 ft-lb torque limit on the diff, I'd try to keep it under that with room to spare. For heavier vehicles I've seen chain drives off the diff to stop the diff from seeing so much torque. You might just get by with your setup given that it's a light weight vehicle.

[@MakingStuff]

No I just chose a gear ratio with available gears that was in the mid-range. I think that this engine will have enough power that I can gear it up and get more speed out of it. Will have to wait until I get it finished.

[@772777777777777]

Does this have a reverse... if not how would you do this

[@EZ_shop]

Pretty cool. How are you going to drive the chain on the differential? It doesn't seem to align with the torque converter.

[@MakingStuff]

Will show solution in the next video. Thanks for watching!

[@donaldcampbell7894]

Looks great but your drive clutch is on backwards. Right now your belt will be misaligned while you are driving. Flip your driven clutch and they will be aligned while you are under throttle.

[@caveman9275]

Wow this is so cool Could I make a bigger version of this for the rear of my vehicle driving from the axle. And 2 separate for the front?

[@MakingStuff]

Anything is possible, thanks for watching.

[@faisalalghifari705]

Gardan apa yg di pakai itu..??

[@imdeplorable2241]

Looks to me that one of those tracks needs to be flipped around. The lugs on the top should all be pointing in the same direction, toward the front. That engine does look a little tall but, better to have the power and not need it...🙂

[@MakingStuff]

Yeah it's flipped the wrong way, will fix before next video. Thanks for watching!

[@vanle974]

very good guy

[@jayburrough4308]

I think this thing is awesome I know it's been done but I'm new I just found your channel and I'm going through watching your videos I don't think the engine is to big it will probably need it that's alot of moving parts and the weight of the Rider and vehicle and terrain and if you pull anything

[@MakingStuff]

Thanks and welcome

[@garylambert5212]

I keep waiting for someone to make one of these using the engine and transmission off of a zero turn lawn mower. My JD Z445 has a 25 HP motor and each side is controlled by separate hydraulic motor. No differential needed. No brakes slowing one side to turn. In fact, no brakes needed at all as it uses hydraulics so slow it down or reverse one or both tracks. Way more efficient.

[@MakingStuff]

Check out TankCommander BT channel on KZbin. He used a zero turn on his first tracked vehicle.

[@garylambert5212]

@@MakingStuff thanks I will.

[@garylambert5212]

@@MakingStuff I saw Tank Commander’s setup and I liked it. Decades ago when I drove armored personnel carriers it used to bug me. You would be hauling Ass at full speed and, when turning, the brake based steering would bleed off speed. Besides the steering brakes they did have pivot handles to reverse either track but we were always cautioned to not use them and if we did uses them to do so from a stop or it would throw a track.

[@cloviscloviscarvalho4227]

muito bom esse veiculo aqui no Brasil vai pegar legal nota 10

[@gregkralka6389]

Where did you get the differential?

[@772777777777777]

Where did you source the rear diff

[@briandearden9791]

At 0' 26", the tracks are fitted facing differently,

[@captainkirkkirk596]

Think it'll work out just fine the engine you got the weight of the tracks the move and your body I think it'll probably be just right I think it's like I'm pretty dang sweet! I can't wait to work on my projects but I got too many things going on right now Christmas for the kids everybody says that the engine be too much I think it'll be just right actually just wait till you get it all put together and some of the gearing a little testing and the tank it will go anywhere just watch and see It'll be sweet! I would like to see you when you get all finished with it what actually the real cost at the end product I think that would be very interesting nice job keep it up!

[@MakingStuff]

The cost has been creeping up on me because the price of everything keeps going up! The cost of steel right now is insane. Thanks for watching!

[@cesar8359]

Would it work for the differential if you install a reverse kit?

[@MakingStuff]

It would take a gear box to make it go in reverse.

[@E1337Jerk]

I'd relocate the gas tank so it's more low profile.

[@charliejackson7918]

Hi Bob,looks like fun.have you tested it fully.and are you going to make and sell them..?

[@MakingStuff]

No

[@jwiereng]

3:16 looks like your plasma should start on the waste side, might come out cleaner cut.

[@vinceiudica238]

Hi great job.. would like to no if you have a wiring diagram to your plasma cnc...

[@MakingStuff]

Sorry, no

[@Crewsy]

Engine too big? Not possible. Just additional challenges to fit and balance it’s placement. 😉 As for small engine shortages. I work for a company that along with its main products that I’m involved with the company also builds the best (some might disagree) small engines available and even we can’t buy anything right now.

[@MakingStuff]

Yup, it's crazy trying to find small engines right now. Thanks for watching!

[@filipsmolka2900]

On which site did you buy the differential?Please

[@MakingStuff]

makingstuff.info/Projects/Personal_Tracked_Vehicle

[@rashpalmaan435]

ਰੇਲ ਪਟੜੀਆਂ ਤੋ ਟੱਟੀ ਵਾਲੇ ਨਹੀ ਹੱਟ ਦੇ । ਫਰਕ ਕੀ ਪੇਣਾਂ। ਇਸ ਤੋ ਵਧੀਆ ਸਹੁਲਤ ਕੁ ਹੋ ਸਕਦੀਆ

[@jackellis48]

Where did you buy the diff thingy and what is it called?

[@MakingStuff]

makingstuff.info/Projects/Personal_Tracked_Vehicle

[@ERIK-457]

One of the tracks is the other way. *Slight visible discomfort*

[@jonvannatto]

When the frame flexes during driving won't the differential drive lock and not allow you to steer?

[@MakingStuff]

Fingers crossed that doesn't happen. Once I get the brake calipers mounted, I can beef up the front end so that hopefully there is no more frame flexing.

[@handdancin]

@@MakingStuff i wonder if you could remove a pillow block in the middle from each side then they can auto align

[@roberteverette4766]

Hello Bob, To make sure I order the correct Differential from Surplus Center, is Peerless 100-224 Differential 1" Axle ITEM NUMBER: 13-1619 and Peerless 41 Pitch 40 Tooth Differential Sprocket 786042 are the correct ones to order?

[@MakingStuff]

The axle is correct. The sprocket I am using is a 36 tooth not a 40. I'll will be updating the links on the web page this weekend.

[@roberteverette4766]

@@MakingStuff Thanks Bob, I'll check out the updated links this weekend. Happy New Year!

[@MakingStuff]

@@roberteverette4766 Updated the links a little early, enjoy!

[@Druain]

Where did you find diff and shaft?

[@MakingStuff]

surpluscenter.com

[@mikerichards6311]

👍

[@alburvill7034]

Was wondering where you found the axle from looks like it might have a lot of uses

[@MakingStuff]

Link is on the Making Stuff web page.

[@chrishughes8504]

@@MakingStuff what's the link for the page.. I need that axle hahah

[@vmoutsop]

440cc? Wow, #RobotCantina is running a whole car on a 440cc engine and it goes 60-70 miles/hr. I think you're in for a surprise!

[@jwiereng]

8:20 @fireball minions?

[@MakingStuff]

Yes

[@steveseifertsr.8120]

It would have been far easier to use 2 hydraulic motors to drive each track separately for much greater ease of placement and vehicle control like a real tank in the end...Doing that you could place the engine and hydraulic pump and tank assembly anywhere you wished...

[@MakingStuff]

Good idea but wasn't in the budget. That's how Tank Commander makes his machines. It would have also given the machine a reverse, which this one does not have. Thanks for the tip!

[@douglassteiskal9097]

Scape your differential and use a clutch and brake on each side. Such as cat Unless you can afford a hydraulic drive for each side I’m 90 yrs old and worked all my life on heavy equipment

[@Gangstercub]

I think the brake steering is a terrible idea. Cant see it working at all. Would have be better to drive each side separately with hydro pump and motors.

[@joetuktyyuktuk8635]

Had the same thought, the "diff" appears to be an open differential, as the brake on one side applies, torque is shifted to the axle with the least resistance. This will undoubtedly cause issues with steering and driving in a straight line over terrain, where there is more resistance on one track. I suppose with constant adjustment with brakes, you could maintain some semblance of control, but I foresee some issues over obstacles... which is kinda the point of this vehicle. I think I will use independent hydraulic drive motors for steering on my project, more expensive, but I think a better solution overall.

[@HarlyHunk]

Go cart brakes for skid steer works great. Just remember to slow down, before you turn.

[@middleway1885]

Boop

[@charliechristianson]

amazon dose not need anymore of your money. jeff takes but dose not give back

[@viking90706]

Can you say Army procurement? Seriously.

[@jaredallen1149]

"Is the engine too big for the project?" Who needs that kind of negativity in their life???? Of COURSE it's too big. Get the next size up, for crying out loud!

[@oneangrycanadian6205]

I can’t find links in your videos for the differential. Can you post it to me? Thx very much

[@MakingStuff]

I got mine from SurplusCenter.com but they have discontinued it since the video was made. I think you may still find it at www.staton-inc.com

[@oneangrycanadian6205]

@@MakingStuff thank you so much for the reply my friend

[@Yeye3040]

Where did you get the differential?

[@MakingStuff]

Surpluscenter.com

[@dan241000]

Hi where did you get the differential from

[@MakingStuff]

SuprlusCenter.com

[@clayton203]

Where do you find that axle?

[@MakingStuff]

Link in description and web page.

[@corbinwolfsen2063]

Where did you get the diff?

[@MakingStuff]

Link in description of first video.

[@divya_]

@@MakingStuff Can't seem to find it. Forgive me, if it's indeed there.

[@timkors1346]

@@divya_ same here

[@MakingStuff]

@@divya_ Surpluscenter.com