Makita 40V Impact vs. Milwaukee Fuel vs. Dewalt XR vs Flex - BEST IMPACT DRIVER?

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Philly Fixed

Philly Fixed

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The brand new Makita XGT 40V GDT01 impact driver takes on the Milwaukee Fuel Gen 3 2853-20, the DeWalt XR DCF887 and the Flex Quick Eject! What's the best impact driver in 2021?
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@ToolReviewZone
@ToolReviewZone 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I didn't realize how big that Flex battery was until now. Looks like a car battery hooked up to that impact lol. Great test 👊
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 2.5/5 don't have high output cells so I had to step up to the 8.0 to match the M18 HO etc. I would never use that thing on the impact in real life, it's like a freaking boat anchor 😂. Thanks for stopping by Clint!
@randyross5630
@randyross5630 3 жыл бұрын
40 Volt, now I instantly have Buyers Remorse! Like why can't I have the 40 Volt! Like why wasn't I told about this before!
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын
Omg clint from @ToolReviewZone commenting on another tool channel whattttt he never does that
@reginalb124
@reginalb124 3 жыл бұрын
@@randyross5630 Unless you have need for something on that line, like the beam saw or that insane 3/4" high torque, I haven't seen any compelling reason to make the jump. The tools that are duplicated between that and the 18V don't really seem any better, but you will have to use a big battery. Like with Flexvolt, there are no compact batteries in the lineup. Unlike Flexvolt, the lower voltage line can't use the batteries.
@GuyFromJupiter
@GuyFromJupiter 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they have those Chervon cooling sleeves on the cells that just make them massive.
@manujaen3999
@manujaen3999 Жыл бұрын
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. kzbin.infoUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
@gabemckay6718
@gabemckay6718 3 жыл бұрын
I had Makita 18v line for over 10 years XLT and BL tools. Switched to Milwaukee Fuel for the past 3 years because they are much more powerful. In the past 6 months though, I've been replacing my beat up Milwaukee fuel Gen 1 and 2 stuff with Makita Brushless tools. They are not quite as powerful but not by much. They are far more ergonomic, lighter and smoother and that's more important to me. I've always been impressed with Milwaukee power but as a carpenter, I find most of their tools miss the mark for precision work, smoothness and ergonomics. For me at least.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
I have a video on the different modes for this and the XGT hammer drill in the works as far as precision driving tasks. Lots of settings and options. Stay tuned!
@svn5994
@svn5994 3 жыл бұрын
Makita is not lighter, and not far more ergonomic.
@gabemckay6718
@gabemckay6718 3 жыл бұрын
@@svn5994 compared to my Milwaukee tools, they are lighter. Ergonomics is subjective. That's why I said, they are more ergonomic for me at least. The shape and placements of handles, switches, size and shape is more conducive to how I work and my hands. Milwaukee's handles are larger, tools are larger and they feel clunky. They also tend to vibrate more which is a mild to major annoyance especially when doing finer detail work. Again, this is my personal experience. I have absolutely no stake in whatever tool you prefer. Buy and use whatever you want. I don't care.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
@@svn5994 Agree that the Makita isn't lighter, all of these drills are heavy. But I find it has much less vibration in the handle when using it.
@preston1614
@preston1614 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I think dewalt has the best trigger and the lightest drill but also the weakest. I have never ran a makita but the Milwaukee triggers are not as good. I also really like Kobalt triggers, they are a very affordable drill, perfectly capable with a nice trigger. After having dewalt, milwaukee and ridgid for years, my main set is the blue kobalts and they cost a fraction of what milwaukee does and I put them through a ton of abuse including loaning them to coworkers. My coworkers have been trying to break it but I think they have been surprised because they choose to use it more than the dewalt, ridgid or craftsmans.
@MiikeyLawless
@MiikeyLawless 2 жыл бұрын
I love how tools have gotten so overpowered that super unrealistic scenarios have to be thought up to find their limits lol.
@ian9toes
@ian9toes 2 жыл бұрын
150x6mm screws is a common task as a formworker and is sufficient to test their limits. From my experience the Milwaukee beats the Makita XGT
@histguy101
@histguy101 Жыл бұрын
@@ian9toes Well, it should. The Milwaukee has higher specs. I believe the gen2 XGT has even lower power specs. They're better for other reasons.
@OmgNoSubs
@OmgNoSubs 2 ай бұрын
What’s interesting is that the Milwaukee drill that’s outperforming the Makita XGT is a Gen 2 drill, there’s already a gen 4 out which is faster. I use both Makita and Milwaukee and I love both but Milwaukee is always more powerful and can take it harder beating
@OmgNoSubs
@OmgNoSubs 2 ай бұрын
What’s interesting is that the Milwaukee drill that’s outperforming the Makita XGT is a Gen 2 drill, there’s already a gen 4 out which is faster. I use both Makita and Milwaukee and I love both but Milwaukee is always more powerful and can take it harder beating
@__________f9433
@__________f9433 3 жыл бұрын
I like these test, the Milwaukee is crazy, and yet looks the smallest of them all.
@garretmacdiarmid7253
@garretmacdiarmid7253 3 жыл бұрын
That flex with an 8.0 looks like rescue heroes feet
@martylucas8557
@martylucas8557 3 жыл бұрын
LOL! The majority of Milwaukee competitors are sporting oversized form factors/clam shells. Why is that? What if the Milwaukee tools were the same size as their competition, e.g. larger motor, magnets, etc...?
@liamflack1974
@liamflack1974 3 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@pepen261
@pepen261 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad that know what you're talking about 🤣
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao @Garrett MacDiarmid
@l00nybin
@l00nybin 3 жыл бұрын
Holy moly, the M18 is a BEAST!
@geoffstrickler
@geoffstrickler 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to impact drivers, Milwaukee is the King of Beasts.
@TacticalThib
@TacticalThib 3 жыл бұрын
Watch the gen 4 Milwaukee impact driver coming out in a couple monthes
@greenskiis
@greenskiis 3 жыл бұрын
@@TacticalThib Has that been confirmed? Haven't heard anything about it yet.
@TacticalThib
@TacticalThib 3 жыл бұрын
Vcg construction has confirmed a new gen 4 impact driver this year
@Mik3yLow
@Mik3yLow 3 жыл бұрын
@@geoffstrickler Ridgid is doing away with the octane line and I'm looking for the next best and I'm kind of sad that this is it. Is the impact in the FUEL line more powerful? Or maybe an older model? I don't mean to sound like I'm hating on Milwaukee, I love their tools I own a LOT. But these are all incredibly weak compared to the Octane. impact
@aaronj4860
@aaronj4860 2 жыл бұрын
my colleagues burnt through 4 Milwaukee impact drivers. I now use the 40v Makita and my 18v $100 budget impact from when I was a first year still going strong. also I genuinely think Makita has a much better feel. so at the end of the day the amount of work I have completed with the Makita compared to a Milwaukee is a massive difference and to me that is what matters. the reliability on site to complete the job.
@rotemtomhagbi1937
@rotemtomhagbi1937 2 жыл бұрын
Carefull you'll upset the red army , and also if you look very closely flex looks like makita on steroids. Even the catalog pictures are the same
@sodapopgoldtooth
@sodapopgoldtooth 2 жыл бұрын
My experience has been the same. I bought a Makita mid grade brushless combo.
@Bathtubcrocodile
@Bathtubcrocodile 11 ай бұрын
​@@AdirondackHomesteadI'm a Milwaukee kit owner. Circular saws and table saws are really bad imo. Better to go with Dewalt tbh.
@djjd3027
@djjd3027 3 жыл бұрын
The Flex and M18Fuel are neck and neck. The 40v Makita is like a diesel. Not fast but seemed pretty smooth with plenty of power.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent way to put it!
@theone6805
@theone6805 3 жыл бұрын
Diesel is smooth?
@ajs96350
@ajs96350 2 жыл бұрын
@@theone6805 Yes, mine certainly is.
@ian9toes
@ian9toes 2 жыл бұрын
Power is defined as work over time.
@THE-HOLY-SPIRIT
@THE-HOLY-SPIRIT 2 жыл бұрын
Well the flex must be a nitro then with roughness
@pl5624
@pl5624 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take the milwaukee 1st then flex.
@martylucas8557
@martylucas8557 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea! The Milwaukee is Gen3 of their Fuel Impact. How’s the Flex going to hold up a couple of years down the road?
@chrisnunya5327
@chrisnunya5327 3 жыл бұрын
@@martylucas8557 couldn't say about over time, but I just got mine last week and I love it. Btw that lifetime warranty is mighty nice too
@caseyschmidt6532
@caseyschmidt6532 3 жыл бұрын
85% percent of plumbers use Milwaukee or Dewalt. And inside of that percentage it’s usually 70-30 on Milwaukee side.
@elbabyboy20
@elbabyboy20 3 жыл бұрын
That hex impact driver from milwaukee is the best in power in my opinion 👌 if you guys want power that's ur tool 🔥 M18 Fuel baby and wait for Gen 4 coming out soon 👀
@Kirko_bangz
@Kirko_bangz 3 жыл бұрын
So what you’re saying is stick with my Milwaukee tools 🙌🏼
@plaid11
@plaid11 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t ever hear or get any kind of impression that he’s trying to tell us what to go with. If you have a gen3 and you switch based on any test on KZbin because it gets beat by even a couple seconds on a few tests, it’s time to re-evaluate your life. All these video show is that Milwaukee will have to step up their game soon because if Flex improves their tools in the next couple years, they will pass Milwaukee in performance. Obviously there’s more to tools than just that. Many people like the Makita impact drivers because they feel better and do better with everyday use than the sometimes overpowered Milwaukee.
@VikingOlberg-NymoenOfNorway
@VikingOlberg-NymoenOfNorway 3 жыл бұрын
Someone got a little butthurted here i think🤣
@edtheoldtechguy
@edtheoldtechguy 3 жыл бұрын
Power and speed aren't everything but I have to give props to that M18!
@l00nybin
@l00nybin 3 жыл бұрын
I really dig the 80s Cyberpunk synthpop intro!
@McFarrah
@McFarrah 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely loved the intro too! Forgot to mention that in the comment I made on this video.
@toolbox1
@toolbox1 3 жыл бұрын
Bro your intro is outstanding. Great video. For older technology Dewalt and Milwauke are holding good. Flex results is very impressive for new contender.
@NoxiousShock
@NoxiousShock 3 жыл бұрын
Should of let that flex impact burn itself out with their new sensor less technology
@renski8976
@renski8976 3 жыл бұрын
100%. "WE HAVE THE MOST POWERFUL DRIVER, LASTS A FULL WEEK" Sorry, they just love shoving that down people's throat. Feels good to make fun of them.
@renski8976
@renski8976 3 жыл бұрын
@An Orange I meant that it lasts a full week, then you need to buy a new one.
@weslymejiaramirez5343
@weslymejiaramirez5343 3 жыл бұрын
Haha chill out 😂😂
@parkerhammond3258
@parkerhammond3258 2 жыл бұрын
Not extremely impressed with the 40v line of tools to convince me to switch from my 18v platform. Reason I'll stick with Makita until otherwise, they're extremely reliable, almost all their tools feel like they were designed to fit me for some reason, and Makita has the most consistent battery platform on the market!
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big Makita fan. But Ryobi has them beat on battery platform longevity... LXT came out in 2005 while ONE+ came out in 1996!
@parkerhammond3258
@parkerhammond3258 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed I don't really consider the residential/home owner brands just because they aren't what you would call contractor quality but i stand corrected as far as that matter! The top brands are all great but the drastic change in battery platforms have really been a big turn off for me (one of the main reasons I stuck with Makita)!
@89dhvac
@89dhvac 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy the Makita 40v didn’t do better...and crazy how inconsistent the flex is
@Fictitious_Character
@Fictitious_Character 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the 40v 2.5hr batt is 18650 cells so I expected it to be marginally better than the 18v Makita and it was running against some beefy batt options for the other contenders. My opinion is when it comes time to saving a employee a couple seconds per use sounds great but those seconds will still get squandered while they crap on company time lol.
@enockenock4183
@enockenock4183 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fictitious_Character, if Makita is going through the R&D process to make a 40v, WHY not utilize 21700 cells? That's a question for Makita. Seems they dropped the proverbial ball on this one.
@EVnewbie
@EVnewbie 3 жыл бұрын
@@enockenock4183 I would assume they will but probably have issues getting those cells initially. I also wonder why Makita won't upgrade the 18V line using 26650 LiMn cells, they can punch 32 amps constant, 64 amps surge and have 3400mAh capacity per cell. A "super duty" 18V 6.6Ah with 64 amps constant/128 amps surge is 1.5 horsepower (1,150 watts) constant and 3 horsepower surge (2,300 watts) Sure, the packs would be really thick but no wider and I'd love a 26650 6.6Ah pack for my 36V X2 trimmers so I can really beat the pack at the highest speed. Of course, blow off LiMn and go for the Tesla 4680 9Ah NMC cells for a portable welder.... :D
@np-bl7qc
@np-bl7qc 3 жыл бұрын
I watched this to see if the Flex was worth it. After seeing how big it is, I don't even care. Now I want the m18.
@reaperreaper5098
@reaperreaper5098 2 жыл бұрын
@@enockenock4183 Price, weight, and availability. Those 40V batteries take a minimum of 10 cells, so they can't make anything smaller than the 2.0/2.5Ah batteries that run the 18650s. Which is fine, they pair those batteries primarily with the drills, impacts, and stick vacs, tools where you would want lighter batteries. The 4.0Ah also only has 10 cells, but they're 21700s, and you can see that it's a chonkster in comparison. They pair that with their Recipro and circle saws, rotary and demo hammers, and grinders.
@enockenock4183
@enockenock4183 3 жыл бұрын
As a Milwaukee M18 Fuel platform guy, I'm not surprised by these results. FWIW, those 21700 High Output batteries are total beasts and make a huge difference. Props to Flex, considering this is a Gen1 offering, so look for improvements there. Very unimpressed with the 40v Makita, "smooth" as it may be. Dewalt is still Dewalt, and that's not a bad thing. Kobalt wins bang4buck award...what is Lowe's going to do when their prosumer line (Kobalt) can directly compete on a price/performance ratio with their premier, contractor line (Flex)?? I'm gonna keep bleeding Milwaukee red. Philly, love your channel and your tests. Awesome video.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@enockenock4183
@enockenock4183 3 жыл бұрын
I might add, that it's not just the simple fact that Milwaukee has the H.O. batteries----the Redlink Plus technology engineered into the tool itself directly communicates to utilize the extra power. Milwaukee was ahead of the game on this. Dewalt FlexVolt has the same idea, but they're on too many platforms between FlexVolt Advantage, Power Detect, FlexVolt 60, etc. It can get confusing for people. Milwaukee has it all nice and tidy in one platform. Tried & true.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
@@enockenock4183 I wish all the platforms had something similar to the CP 3.0 HO or the Kobalt 4.0 Ultimate Output - compact but high output.
@enockenock4183
@enockenock4183 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed, I'm sure the other guys are working on that. I've no clue whether or not patents are involved (???). Chervon, who owns Flex, Kobalt, Skil, and Ego, has amazing battery technology (at least in the Ego line). Like anything, it's a highly competitive business but guys in the trades (like myself) tend to go with what works for them and are usually pretty brand-loyal. I personally ran Dewalt for years (no complaints) but I switched to Milwaukee and it's going to take a lot to move me away from it. I have heard that Milwaukee is currently working on a 4.0 CP HO, which would be great.
@SweetStat
@SweetStat 3 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee is the raw power king, it’s more to an impact than raw power tho. There’s been some super unreliable high end impact drivers from dewalt. Makitas 40v and high end 18v are super great tools with some really useful settings. You won’t rly appreciate it unless you got some time with the tool, they also got an automotive fuse inside of them to protect the electronics. I handled the flex, but not enough to form too much of an opinion.they don’t have that high end quality feel and sound you get from the big 3, but it delivers plenty of power. Personally wouldn’t invest in their lineup, it’s not good enough for pros and can’t compete with riobi for homeowners
@ProxyFinal
@ProxyFinal 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't run them on those big batteries unless I had no choice. My problem with the Flex is that it tries so hard to be the next Milwaukee. Makita xgt has better runtime. milwaukee beast mode.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын
On some of these tests the flex is head2head with Milwaukee and on others the Milwaukee is way ahead nice testing Jim @Philly Fixed
@davidcook2172
@davidcook2172 2 жыл бұрын
I am working with seasoned professionals who have 20-40 years experience and everyone has a DeWalt and everyone uses them everyday on metal studs and they all have had them for over 4 years plus. That was my decision. I was seriously thinking about the flex honestly but went with DeWalt and I am very happy with the quality.
@chrisschneiders6734
@chrisschneiders6734 Жыл бұрын
Your probably right, but push dewalts to do handwork and there shit.. l have about 20 dewalt cordless tools so it's not like lm biased.
@gregorsamsa1364
@gregorsamsa1364 Жыл бұрын
I've been a DeWalt guy for 20 years. I see no reason to switch yet. I have a DeWalt impact I've been running since I got it in 2013. Looks beat tf up but still performs. And their saws kick ass Admittedly, if I was someone running huge lags all day I'd be better off with a Milwaukee impact, but I'm not that guy. Thank god
@robertburgard8588
@robertburgard8588 3 жыл бұрын
I expected the dewalt to get drilled in this test (pun intended). I am just glad it didn't end up in last place.
@edtheoldtechguy
@edtheoldtechguy 3 жыл бұрын
Wow great show for Milwaukee!
@derekbross6958
@derekbross6958 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Your editing, presentation, and methods are top notch. Keep the videos coming. Glad to see the M18 put the Flex in its place for the most part. From what I’ve been seeing Flex has nothing on Milwaukee. Flex is going to have a hard road ahead of them to try and stay in the business in my opinion. No one who is running one of the big 3 is going to switch, and even if I were just starting out I wouldn’t go with Flex over the established brands. Amazing head to head Jim.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words, Derek!
@jdelapaz14
@jdelapaz14 3 жыл бұрын
I just switched from milwaukee to flex. Been in construction for 20 years and I use my impact every single day. The milwaukee lost to the flex in this video. The test that put the milwaukee ahead was the one where the flex came in at 13 seconds which was most likely due to an unusually hard part of that trunk. In the similar test shorty before or afterward the flex came in at the same time as the milwaukee either .1 up or down. Any test with a trunk should be done with 3 to 5 bolts and then use the average. A better test would be to use a hard manufactured wood to give uniformity.
@derekbross6958
@derekbross6958 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdelapaz14 There have been lots of other videos out there that the Milwaukee beats the Flex as long as the Milwaukee has a HO battery on it. If Flex works better for you that’s great. I use my impact driver daily as well and I’m happy with my Milwaukee, along with all my other Milwaukee tools, and see no reason to switch. You did, which is fine.
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekbross6958 I use a impact daily as well and Milwaukee HO batteries starts at 8amp hours which isn't really practical for most users of impact, 5amp hour is the most and everything else up to 12 amp hour is good for stationary tools, circular saws, sawzall, hammer drills etc. I think the Flex is the best impact on the market especially when you are working with several different bits at the same time. The quick eject makes life easier and product increases. I am 100% a Ridgid fan boy but I am getting a few of these Flex tool and it they don't work I will make returns at Lowes.
@derekbross6958
@derekbross6958 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickyperkins232 The Milwaukee HO batteries do not start at 8 AH. They have a 3 AH HO, as well as a 6. I use the 3.0 HO all the time. And the M18 has been in videos with the 3.0 AH HO beating the Flex. But it all comes down to personal preference. Ford vs Dodge if you will. I’m not slamming Flex I just don’t think they had the right to claim they are better then everyone else before being proven.
@softwarephil1709
@softwarephil1709 Жыл бұрын
Milwaukee and Flex are in a different league from the others.
@jathanrademaker9274
@jathanrademaker9274 3 жыл бұрын
No surprises here Milwaukee will rule every test with flex right beside it
@meagaindave2049
@meagaindave2049 3 жыл бұрын
Not once, again, not ONCE have I EVER had that "what's wrong with thing?" moment using Makita. I have a few times with M18, and it looked like FLEX could potentially spill it's lubricant over time. 🤷‍♂️
@as-nz2vl
@as-nz2vl 2 жыл бұрын
I have makita 40v and i absolutely love it.
@codyfrancis4474
@codyfrancis4474 2 жыл бұрын
Makita has never let me down. They have the best drywall gun and cut out tool hands down so it is my brand of choice easily
@jriv454
@jriv454 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll take the Milwaukee first, that one didn’t require a lot of pushing down to get it done.
@cesarlomibao2662
@cesarlomibao2662 3 жыл бұрын
That was an excellent comparison!!! Milwaukee came out on top without a problem. With an 18V, 8Ah battery against a 24V, 8Ah battery giving up 25% less volts, that’s pretty good in my book!! I thoroughly enjoyed this video!! Keep up the good work! God Bless!! Best Regards.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Cesar!
@clarkfos3447
@clarkfos3447 3 жыл бұрын
I just wish the Milwaukee could maintain that speed and power for more than 10 minutes at a time at best without almost catching fire.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
@@clarkfos3447 This is truth right here. Working on a jobsite all day is a marathon, not a sprint.
@greenskiis
@greenskiis 3 жыл бұрын
Someone misleading in that the Flex is 24v Max while the M18 is 20v Max. Flex's nominal voltage is 21.6 while the Milwaukee is 18. Still speaks volumes about Milwaukee's engineering that they're still able to outperform these newer models and higher voltages while having been out for a good 3 years.
@thepewplace1370
@thepewplace1370 2 жыл бұрын
Geez the Milwaukee and Flex really massively outperform the competition. What I can't figure is their differences in driving the lags (I guess the oversized lag was a self protection mode on Milwaukee that the Flex doesn't have, but still).
@chrisschneiders6734
@chrisschneiders6734 Жыл бұрын
Seen it many many times with my own eyes and hands, Milwaukee murders dewalt when the going gets tough.. l own dewalt.
@jl9362
@jl9362 3 жыл бұрын
Im hoping you have a drill battle coming soon with the 40v xgt with electronic clutch
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!
@jascospeed
@jascospeed 3 жыл бұрын
That new Flex is HUGE with that battery! More volts bigger size, heavier and still couldn't crush the 3 year old Milwaukee. Flex marketing and certain youtube channels pushing this company hard. Good video brother!!
@nohcho84
@nohcho84 3 жыл бұрын
True, all the shills on youtube (you know who you are) are on that Flex train rn
@Nick-oi8lc
@Nick-oi8lc 3 жыл бұрын
I mean the only way it's beaten by milwaukee is with ho batteries I'd say give flex some time to prove themselves as a first gen it's beating everyone else
@gagejernigan5277
@gagejernigan5277 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-oi8lc like foreal Flex is beating tool companies that have been perfecting their tools for decades
@nodoubt46able
@nodoubt46able Жыл бұрын
@@gagejernigan5277 flex are heavy as shit, uncomfortable, and butt ass ugly....shewwwww
@georgedavall9449
@georgedavall9449 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Jim, even though I didn’t like the way Makita turned out! 🤨😠😁 DeWalt made a good showing, and there’s no getting around the fact the Gen 3 Fuel Impact is a rocket ship beast! If only Milwaukee would tweak the ergos! Metabo triple good all around and won’t mind a little rain and dust. Kobalt solid. Flex spewing fluid, don’t think it’s gonna hold up, despite its fine performances here? End of the day, which driver gonna hold up, not cramp up your hand, and the one you won’t mind picking back up the next day! Only each individual can make that decision. Like you said in the video, the Makita is smooth, and the ergos are solid on the Metabo and Kobalt. Like how you doing the timing Jim. Say hi to my home state! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😁😀✌🏻🇺🇸
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts as always, George!
@McFarrah
@McFarrah 3 жыл бұрын
I really like that you keep the comparison stats on the screen for each run. 🙌
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
@ccbowers
@ccbowers 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your point about testing vs real life use. The issue isn't just unrealistic tests like driving 1/2 inch lags with those impact drivers without an appropriate pilot hole, but that doing these tests promotes the wrong type of thinking about tools. I admit that they can be fun to watch, but the differences in power alone gets exaggerated by counting seconds in unrealistic situations, and the overall quality of the tool (ergonomics, reliability, vibration, control, quality of overall tool line, etc) gets overlooked. Those other things will outweigh the differences in power, at least within tiers of tool levels.
@KukosEQ
@KukosEQ 3 жыл бұрын
So true. The job you are doing is for impakt wrenches, not drivers:\
@ALEXIS1414100
@ALEXIS1414100 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what he mentioned towards the end of the video... he knows it. lol
@ccbowers
@ccbowers 3 жыл бұрын
@@janisuljas1462 Yes, but many viewers, and even channels, seem to forget this. You will notice if you read comments when one tool beats another by 0.8 seconds and ANY meaningful conclusions are made based upon that
@andrewavellino6427
@andrewavellino6427 3 жыл бұрын
Wow you got Makita to lend you the XGT impact driver??!!!?! No shit! I gotta tell you, the quality of your videos and content, your level of testing,timers, editing, type of your tests and everything else is top notch, best of the best, and in my opinion beats out all other tool-tubers that are at the top of the chain, all they have on you is more time on KZbin, your quality content shows and it will reward you.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks Andrew!
@guardianali
@guardianali 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like Milwaukee has more burst power and Flex has more sustained power.
@joshsworld8219
@joshsworld8219 2 жыл бұрын
its not about how fast the tool preforms but how durable the tool is and how long it’s life span is. a few seconds on driving screws won’t make any difference unless your driving 1000s of screws a day.
@Fictitious_Character
@Fictitious_Character 3 жыл бұрын
For impact drivers the gen 3 is a proven powerhouse. I like using the Makita XD16 because it is really comfortable in the hand and doesn't heat up like the 887, in the south in the summer heat transfer matters lol. Plus the XD16 doesn't sound as clackity as the 887.
@aubertbethencourt3241
@aubertbethencourt3241 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or this video seems like a 1980's MTV music video opening
@J-WHO312
@J-WHO312 3 жыл бұрын
love the old school intro
@Aladinscave
@Aladinscave 3 жыл бұрын
I never use drill bits for drilling holes on my impact drivers that’s what the combi drills are for it does it better ( I know this is just a test I’m just saying) I have the Makita 40v and I’m really happy with it I actually run it on setting number 3 out of 4 most of the time because it’s to powerful so don’t understand why it’s not doing that well in this test? It will actually sheer of the hex on 4 if provoked ……
@J.Wick.
@J.Wick. 2 жыл бұрын
It may not be the quickest out of the group (though not far behind) , but that Makita(18V XDT16 ) is a joy to use. It's super comfy in the hand and smooth as butta. I would love to see this test redone with the new contenders (MW Gen 4, Flex w/ Stack, Dewalt 840/850 w/ Stack, Makita XDT19, Makita 40V DST, Metabo HPT BOLT) That new Metabo is a beast btw.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I still grab my Makita for remodeling. The only exception is if I'm doing a bunch of pretty large screws (e.g. timberloks on my deck). As far as the new comparison.... You just might get your wish!
@J.Wick.
@J.Wick. 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed yes sir. There are better choices for the big stuff. But for most things, it (XDT16) or an MHPT are what I grab. Awesome! Looking forward to it. DeWalt should have the new XR (840 w/modes-assumption) out soon too! Seriously though...Love that new MHPT BOLT.
@PostUp_Time
@PostUp_Time 3 жыл бұрын
*IMPACT DRIVER MNFR.'S MAKE THEIR TOOLS SMALLER AND SMALLER. YET THE BATTERIES GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND HEAVIER. DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF A NICE SMALL POWERFUL, LIGHTWEIGHT IMPACT DRIVER.*
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
That's a very good point. That is one thing Milwaukee nailed with the CP3.0 High Output pack. All of the manufacturers should have something like that. The Kobalt Ultimate Output 4.0 is a decent option there as well.
@PostUp_Time
@PostUp_Time 3 жыл бұрын
*GLAD ADDED METABO. BUT WHY DOES EVERYONE OVERLOOK THE RIDGID TOOLS. THEY ARE GREAT. THEY ARE SLEEPERS IN THE BUNCH OF TOOLS. JUST LIKE HITACHI HAS BEEN FOR YEARS. PLEASE CONSIDER ADDING RIDGID NEXT TEST. THEY TOO HAVE A NEW LINE (Octane Line now surpassed) GREAT VIDEO BTW*
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I will have Ridgid coming up, as well as comparing Octane to the new "Max Output" brushless line!
@russellsickler5961
@russellsickler5961 3 жыл бұрын
Man, the smoke plume on the 3/8 lags out. I need these tool companies to do slomo promos with that. Also, I’m really glad I bought into the Milwaukee lineup. I was on the debate last year, and have gotten both the m18, and started snagging some m12 tools. I do low voltage work, but it’s great to have for general purpose stuff.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын
Which triple hammer from metabo hpt is it jim the 18v or the 36v multi volt hard to see NVM looks like the 36v model @18:40 @Philly Fixed
@thekma3476
@thekma3476 3 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee and that flex seemed like they tied.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
It was very close; I've been short on time this week but I'll have the blog article finished with how I calculated it very soon.
@ProToolsApproved
@ProToolsApproved 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I ever spent a day on site trying to run fasteners quicker than anyone else. Factor in the ergonomics, the tech(special settings) longevity of tool and battery, and it's much harder to compare these tools. I own them all(still waiting for my xgt to arrive, and my XDT16 is japanese direct model) they each have their place, but I reach for the XDT16 or MetaboHPT Bolt more than the rest. Not including 12v impacts.
@toolhead147
@toolhead147 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! That milwaukee and the flex are beast. Just got mine in today we will see how they perform.
@elbabyboy20
@elbabyboy20 3 жыл бұрын
What's up bud can't wait to check out your video 😁
@amerintex
@amerintex 3 жыл бұрын
awesome video well done. I loved the intro as well. The dewalt did pretty good considering its 5 years old now.
@baseballdude8491
@baseballdude8491 3 жыл бұрын
Let's get it on
@aircommuter
@aircommuter 3 жыл бұрын
I gave up on Makita when my worm saw stopped and I took it apart to fix and it had plastic gears.
@adamjolley630
@adamjolley630 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the way you’ve structured this video. Great work mate.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Adam!
@scottbionicnerf8727
@scottbionicnerf8727 Жыл бұрын
When you're using a spade-bit to drill/make a hole, it's always a challenge to do a clean-exit. The technique is to actually pull/hold the tool back a little bit just before exit, and get the rpms up, pressure down so that the bit has chance to gradually conclude (sweep/chip-out the circumference of the hole gradually.)
@ZoneCrasher
@ZoneCrasher Жыл бұрын
This is not about correct way to do things, it shows only who is the most powerful.
@brotherbrad1617
@brotherbrad1617 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, thank you for doing the testing we can't do. I like to see the out of spec tests as it kinda let's me know how a tool will perform under normal use.
@4673962
@4673962 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the new Ridgid impact would do. It just made a new record on Shop Tool Reviews. That was done with a 2 amp hour battery. Everyone that has reviewed it has liked it. Not too impressed with the mitabo or the makita 40v. You should stick in the ridgid in your reviews.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
I will do that! 👍
@michaelthornton7002
@michaelthornton7002 3 жыл бұрын
Deep impact? Lol You going to make a second channel about what to do when you get sued for trademark infringement? Good video. Keep them coming.
@luigigreen9823
@luigigreen9823 Жыл бұрын
Dewalt is by far best all around value. When used in real world rigorous scenarios its very efficient and will take a beating better than any other. Can't beat the yellow and black
@zero11-Brabo
@zero11-Brabo 2 жыл бұрын
나무에 박는건 의미 없음...! ^ ^ 모든 영상들이 임팩드릴을 비교할때 나무에만 박고 누가 힘이 더 싸나만 영상을 찍는다... ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그럼 밀워키나 플렉스가 좋아보이는것 같은데... ^^ 나무같은데를 박을때는 나사 끝머리가 어느정도 박힌상태에서 나사가 이탈하지 않지만... 철판을 타공할때는 분명히 두 제품은 삑사리가 날것이다. 밀워키와 디월트 , 플렉스는 나무작업할때는 힘이 좋아서 유리할지 모르겠지만...! 끝이 들어가지 않는 단단한 철판작업할때는 " 와불현상" 이 작업에 많은 영향을 미치기때문에~ 디월트나 밀워키 , 플렉스는 상대적으로 임팩의 떨림때문에 나사가 이탈할 가능성이 매우높다... 그렇게 때문에~ 임팩드릴 비교할때... 누구도 철판을 상대로 비교영상을 만들지 않고` 오로지 나무에만 박아때리는 영상을 만들고~ 밀워키가 좋으네~ 플렉스가 좋으네만 선전한다... ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 좋다는 저 제품들 ^^ 단단한 철판을 두고 비교하세요~ 이리 픽사리 나고~ 저리 픽사리 나고~ " 와블" 단점이 바로 나올것입니다...
@cajunice3588
@cajunice3588 3 жыл бұрын
That flex hammer drill with the turbo is pretty beastly
@cheffandrewscookingshow1455
@cheffandrewscookingshow1455 3 жыл бұрын
milwaukee for life
@mikecurtis1111
@mikecurtis1111 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised at how poorly the new Makita performed
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Same, but I wonder if it will last longer under daily use. We'll see as the XGT line matures a bit!
@SmokiesDen
@SmokiesDen 3 жыл бұрын
That Milwaukee is going to be hard to beat. The offer still stands to borrow a metabo hpt 36v hammer drill /driver if you need one. I have 9 of them in my storeroom just sitting sealed new-in-box that I got for the rebate when they were on clearance at lowes. For ~$55 I couldn't resist.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
I actually picked one up for the upcoming hammer drill testing! I got a good price reconditioned... I didn't get it for $55 though, that's awesome.
@baseballdude8491
@baseballdude8491 3 жыл бұрын
My Metabo HPT hammer drill is ridiculously more powerful than my Milwaukee Fuel-I would love to see it compete against FLEXY-just don't break your wrist
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
@@baseballdude8491 It's coming!
@Apinp18
@Apinp18 3 жыл бұрын
Smokey I’ll buy one off ya
@diagorasmoustakas249
@diagorasmoustakas249 3 жыл бұрын
Μ18 gen 3 beat everyone
@Joethetoolguy
@Joethetoolguy 3 жыл бұрын
Spoilers!
@YouWillNeverBeAWoman
@YouWillNeverBeAWoman 3 жыл бұрын
@@Joethetoolguy is it really though?
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 3 жыл бұрын
I am thinking I really like the flex, that power is awesome.
@jdelapaz14
@jdelapaz14 3 жыл бұрын
It didn't beat the flex. The trunk test with those lags cut the flex down significantly. It didn't perform even close to any of the other tests which means it was due to that specific part of the wood. The flex actually beat the Milwaukee going of the results in general without that test. But the flex did beat the Milwaukee in similar fashion on the same trunk so that isn't trustworthy either. When using the trunk test he should do 4 lags per drill and use the average. It still wouldn't be perfect but at least it would be drastically better than this.
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdelapaz14 you know I was thinking the same, and on that trunk test I would run the tool to a complete stop or complete failure.in the real world we don't stop we push the tools until it breaks or the job is done. I do agree with you that the trunk has no consistency with it and maybe doing stacks of OSB sheets would be better but is all good because Jim keeps it honest. I still think the Flex took the prize too.
@nbates9893
@nbates9893 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao that new maskita sucks. Milwaukee is still KING...
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
"Slow" and "sucks" are not the same thing, in my opinion. But thanks for watching!
@nbates9893
@nbates9893 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed facts
@pudo3792
@pudo3792 3 жыл бұрын
i think its funny how all the impacts make the screen shaky except for the makitas. They really are smooth and comfortable tools!
@Troystaples1
@Troystaples1 3 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee all the way nothing but the best 🔥
@kevinochoa5268
@kevinochoa5268 3 жыл бұрын
Highly recommend the xgt! Smoothest impact out there best imo!!
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Wait til you see the drill video!
@djjinerson
@djjinerson 3 жыл бұрын
Love the intro 👍
@MrBostonBilly
@MrBostonBilly 3 ай бұрын
The Flex batteries are garbage, they leak a black goo even while charging I'm very disappointed and plan to return the turbo driver I just purchased today and have not even used it, the batteries were cover in a black goo when I opened the case I wiped it off and charged them both and found the same black goo on the charger just garbage, I will never purchase Flex again
@rjakiel73
@rjakiel73 3 жыл бұрын
The intro is awesome!
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын
Little disadvantage for the dewalt on the last test the timer was started before the tool 20 or so seconds early @17:40 just wanted to point that out Jim @Philly Fixed
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcosluis421 not sure what your comment has to do with mine but okay
@alexbelle3941
@alexbelle3941 Жыл бұрын
Interesting review. Speaking as a Dinosaur 🦕 who hasn’t come out of the Dark Ages of Corded power tools. Still shopping around for a Brand to jump into the cordless realm.
@herbertherbomoore415
@herbertherbomoore415 3 жыл бұрын
I would to see the kobalt xtr in a head to head against all of them!
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
For now you can check out the XTR in round 2!
@qwademcpherson3141
@qwademcpherson3141 3 жыл бұрын
Lets gooooooooo
@joel9405
@joel9405 2 жыл бұрын
Bought in to the flex tools, happy to see they did well!
@travissmikle2507
@travissmikle2507 7 ай бұрын
Those numbers are a huge difference. Even if its a second or two faster with the Milwaukee, in my line of work that would be a big gain for me as i will be fastening over 150 screws at times. With those 2 seconds or more adding up to 5 mins or more, i would be home and in the shower vs still working at the job site if i was to use some other tools.
@lmars
@lmars Жыл бұрын
What did we learn today class, if you didn’t already know? Milwaukee is the best, always bet on red, or something along those lines. 😁 #MilwaukeeAte
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 3 жыл бұрын
That Flex is the beast man. @phillyfix your intro is better every time. I hope you getting paid soon for your videos because of you I realized the Flex Sawzall is the saw that replaces my Ridgid sawzall. I love all my Ridgid tools and I am a fan boy but I can't take the reckless vibration going through the palm of my hands anymore.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ricky! I started monetizing the channel but I have a long way to break even on the tools purchased. Torque Test Channel took 6 months to break even!
@baseballdude8491
@baseballdude8491 3 жыл бұрын
The Metabo HPT sawzall is better than the flex in many ways Power, multiple speeds, lowest vibration, 36V runs much cooler, and all the 36V line can be plugged in to AC adapter, lifetime warranty(for all yrs/not just first yr like flex)
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 3 жыл бұрын
@@baseballdude8491 do you own one, the big thing for me is the vibration in the palms but it has to have the power of the Milwaukee Super sawzall or better.
@baseballdude8491
@baseballdude8491 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickyperkins232 I have the super sawzall with a 12.0 battery and two of the Metabo HPT 36V recipes They are significantly more powerful and have state of the art vibration control Had them for over two yrs on jobsites and have held up well and for big jobs we have used the AC adapter for all day runtime when needed so the batteries will also last much longer for their lifetime
@kaleb_barbour3
@kaleb_barbour3 3 жыл бұрын
Those batteries are huge compared to the compact impacts
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Especially the Flex... to be fair, you can't buy the 8.0 in a kit with that impact. Have to buy separately or with their circular saw.
@enockenock4183
@enockenock4183 3 жыл бұрын
I run the 3.0 High Output batteries on my M18 tools and the ergos are fine, keeping the tool lightweight without sacrificing power. I have 6.0, 8.0, 12.0 HO batteries as well, but those are for my circ saw, super sawzall, hammer drill. 3.0's are more than enough for my impact. The 3.0 HO will run circles around a standard 5.0 , with half the weight.
@josuetorres5435
@josuetorres5435 3 жыл бұрын
Great video love it.
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed question if the Flex & Milwaukee are faster impacts how much vibration in the palms do you think they contribute compared the other impacts?
@delosaurasrex732
@delosaurasrex732 3 жыл бұрын
Great video...Not too shabby...👍👍
@engdarfatgalalyelectrical1076
@engdarfatgalalyelectrical1076 2 жыл бұрын
It was useful information, thank you very much
@edtheoldtechguy
@edtheoldtechguy 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody is a Makita fan now! For good reason! Don't forget though I was the original old scbool Makit a lover!
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
I need to find the manufacturing date on my corded drill... haha
@edtheoldtechguy
@edtheoldtechguy 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed Bro I have old corded and cordless ones too, sadly I even threw some out and gave some away. If you worked in or around low voltage, Makita was the drills given to us as technicians so I have been using them for a very long time. Great show bro! I personally wish 40v would have done better but in the end power and speed are not everything we all chose some brands for our own personal needs and wants.
@enockenock4183
@enockenock4183 3 жыл бұрын
Who says I'm a Makita fan now?? Lol. Nothing wrong with them, but it's Big Red all day, every day for me. 👍✌
@betods1013
@betods1013 3 жыл бұрын
Ed.....No one even knows who you are. LOL
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 3 жыл бұрын
@@betods1013 He's got 1.4k subs, so at least 1.4k people know who he is!
@trenthollifield6969
@trenthollifield6969 2 жыл бұрын
Plz take that 40v Makita and throw it in the trash can't even hang with twice the volts hahaha Milwaukee/flex 💪
@matinsandoval11
@matinsandoval11 3 жыл бұрын
Did again with the intro!!!!! Love it man!
@dustywclark
@dustywclark Жыл бұрын
I wanted to see the comparison but not with the music.
@paulhughes3961
@paulhughes3961 3 жыл бұрын
I don't expect anyone to jump on the Flex bus, but there is no denying the Flex was very close to the Milwaukee . Give Flex time to show if is a reliable tool and see what improvements they come out with over time.
@trentroberdeau6399
@trentroberdeau6399 3 жыл бұрын
...and the Milwaukee has been around for three years... proven and still out performs
@fordnut4914
@fordnut4914 2 жыл бұрын
Batterys are getting to damn big and baulky.5 to 9 amps ones are enough i dont want to carry a car battery.
@codyfrancis4474
@codyfrancis4474 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing is the DeWalt and Milwaukee will be broken and in 1 -3 years lol
@boosted2.4_sky
@boosted2.4_sky 2 жыл бұрын
5:47... 2.23...🤷‍♂️ I sit here and watch the FLEX beat the Milwaukee over and over then you look at the comments and these guys are like " yeah, Millwaukee wins again"...LOL ...what video are you watching!?
@PhillyFixed
@PhillyFixed 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6O8i5poo5Zkp9E
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын
Love the intro
@giovanysantiago7562
@giovanysantiago7562 3 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee gen 3 is still the king of impact drivers.
@matthewtrenhaile5858
@matthewtrenhaile5858 3 жыл бұрын
Except the collet is a liability. Which bumps it below both the 40v makita and xdt16
@SlashAFD1000
@SlashAFD1000 3 жыл бұрын
They’ve fixed their collet. They put a second ball bearing in
@robertcasey3528
@robertcasey3528 3 жыл бұрын
Jim is Flexed. Diesel. Like a brick shithouse. 😂😂
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын
Nice testing
@kyr34
@kyr34 Жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏🏽 God bless you too brother in Jesus’ name ❤️
@TurboD16z6
@TurboD16z6 Жыл бұрын
Where's the kobalt, where's the rigid
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