2020 i9 5K iMac vs Mac Pro & iMac Pro for Video Editors!

[@MaksimYuryev]

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[@Aman_Mondal]

What about the MacBook Pro 16inch core i9 variant ??? How does that one compare with that 5k mac

[@marfaworks]

Hi - Thanks for all the great, well researched information. One question: So you do recommend the 5700 XT w/16GB RAM? At least thats the model your best bang for buck links to just above...Almost sure you suggested sticking with the 5700 w/8GB RAM at the end of your review for most video editing tasks. Please confirm - cheers

[@itsmejoric4180]

One thing I learned from this review is how efficient DaVinci Resolve...lol

[@TalelSghaier]

agreed

[@KuntalGhosh]

I use resolve every day.. its really good now. And works perfectly fine with r7 1700 and rx580!

[@ImaMac-PC]

@MaxYuryev Great Video! I am just curious if Apple's decision to leave Intel was key to your decision to selling the Mac Pro or if you decided you just don't need the Mac Pro's expandability?

[@MaksimYuryev]

To be honest its both. I don't really need the modularity and I never keep devices for a very long time because I need to keep up buying the latests stuff to cover the on my channel so long term upgradability doesn't really matter. I also expect Apple Silicon to be amazing with FCX>

[@WesPerry]

Just getting my 8-core w. 5700 XT up and running now. Thanks for your previous videos where you exposed the weaknesses of the 10-core, saving me a pile of money! 👌🏻

[@HiFiInsider]

Sadly, my 2017 iMac top model can’t handle the 4K footage from my Sony ZV-1 camera but my iPad Pro is buttery smooth. I don’t understand why.

[@thomase917]

The iPad Pro has hardware encoding/acceleration.

[@riparianstudios]

Yeah I'm here because my 2017 is choking as well. Looks like it's time for an upgrade. :/

[@Nattodayy]

Any chance of adding After Effects, Motion 5, Blender into these kind of tests?

[@Abbasjawad373]

This is their filmmaking channel. They have another channel for tech in general.

[@StevenFreitag]

Thanks for this Max. I’ve ordered my 8 core, 5700, 10gb eth., 64GB ram on your thorough research. It’s so useful to see the cross section of cameras, and NLE performance. My situation requires using Adobe, FCPX, and Davinci interchangeably. Then add to that, Canon C200 for my own projects, and a mix of Fuji XT-4, Sony A73, Canon R5 for edit projects... so THANK YOU again, it’s really helpful!

[@larrylitmanen9877]

What do you do out of curiosity that you bought this Mac.

[@samimaldonadolizarazu8891]

Hi @MaxYuryev! Great video as always! Is the 2020 macbook pro 16" 5600M, 2.4, 64gb close to this Imac? I have the imac pro 2017 base model and I very happy, but I need change to a portable computer. A decent macbook pro with Silicon and Adobe premier sounds far away right now...?

[@ep8022]

Hey Max, great video ! I agree iMacs have great resale value... just curious, do you sell it once the new one is out ? Or do you sell it kind of guessing when the new one is about to launch ? I wondering if it makes a difference... thanks

[@MaksimYuryev]

With iMacs it doesn’t matter as much, since a lot less people know if there’s a new one and if so how much better it is (unless they are watching my channel lol). It’s also harder to time it because most of the time iMac upgrades are a surprise. I wouldn’t worry too much and sell after you get your new one. For iPhones it helps to do it early and you also know when the new ones are coming too.

[@ep8022]

@@MaksimYuryev that’s why I love your channel, quick response and you actually respond. Please don’t be like higher end KZbin channels that have lots of followers and ignore questions. When your channel reaches a really high number, please stay humble and appreciate how hard it was to get there. Keep up great work, stay safe and don’t forget to vote on Tuesday! I wish I could vote but I’m Canadian, ha ha!

[@WarriorsPhoto]

@@MaksimYuryev Good point and thank you for sharing sir.

[@MatthewEncina]

Thanks for the review. Specifically with the R5 performance.

[@dombower]

M1 processor is stopping me from buying this

[@AleksIvic]

Stunning review as always!! Any chance you tested the iMac with an 5700xt within an eGPU enclosure to see if it will be on par with the Mac Pro?

[@MaksimYuryev]

Thanks! I don’t recommend eGPU’s for iMacs since to get smooth and proper video editing performance or for gaming it needs to be connected to an external display. If you use your iMacs display it works well for some things and not others and with that you will get worse performance because of the thunderbolt 3 cable throttling.

[@deanpettitt121]

Thanks as always for this Max. You do a very thorough amount of testing which is fabulous, one other thing I’d personally love to see is the addition of a Cycles render in Blender, Macs are typically terrible at 3D compositing but it’s getting way more popular now, not just for game creation but also photography and video work.

[@jumanrodstudios]

hey max... I just order a 3.6GHz 10-core 10th-generation intel core i9 Procesor , Turbo Boost up to 5.0GHz 16 GB 2666MHz DDR4 memory 1TB SSD Storage Radeon Pro 5500 XT With 8GB of GDDR6 memory Question: I use FCPX with 4K videos is this set up iMac will perform well? do the iMac will get hot? should I upgrade more RAM memory?

[@allyncia]

Hi Max! Thanks for your videos! Do you comment on which machine specs would be best with adobe apps including PS, Premiere, After Effects and 3D animations? Sounds like the pimped out iMac is just as well as either. I can afford either but I need something now that will last. I'm not into building (except don't mind adding RAM) and not into the trade in every other year. Right now, I'm editing 4k, some rotoscoping that's taking month with 32g Ram, Radeon 5100, 1T Dell. I want something a lot more powerful yet this machine I'll use when streaming or sound editing so I want something not so noisy. Any tips on what's possible?

[@brandonharden2184]

Thanks for the high quality in-depth video. I start grad school next year and need to make a decision. You’ve already saved me money with choosing the 8-core and DIY memory upgrades. I’m using that money to get the best graphics so, I modestly game in boot camp. I’m waiting till after November 17th though. I’d love a 6800 XT refresh when I get it but I can alway egpu it.

[@alhadad1979]

Thank you I've just bought your recommendation 8-core imac 😘. Regarding ram, does it matter whether I buy any on specs ram or it should necessarily be imac-tagged ram?

[@MaksimYuryev]

No Prob! It doesn't matter (most of the time) I linked the ram I used in the video description and it works perfectly.

[@proteus1]

I wonder how much faster the new Imac with silicon, would be? So the imac is the best buy for 4k fullframe working with resolve 17?

[@SeanTube2099]

I never knew you guys had another tech review channel. Good job.

[@CallMeChato]

And as capable as that new iMac is it’s a shame that it’s still thermally constrained. I think it has a K chip in it, correct? And you can’t even over clock it. What a waste.

[@franzpleurmann2585]

Better build a hackintosh 😉

[@khoifoto]

Franz Pleurmann and spend $1000 on a good monitor.

[@MaksimYuryev]

Technically this year it’s not a K chip and even if it was it’s thermally limited. With that’s said for most video editing takes now the CPU is not being hammered too hard so it would make an insignificant difference but would result in a lot more heat just like on a windows PC. With how things are going lately it actually makes sense to lightly underclocknor undervolt if you care about have a cool and quiet custom PC. Thankfully the 8 core performance shockingly well and the 10 core isn’t needed.

[@franzpleurmann2585]

Khoi Dang The ASUS PA278QV seems like a decent choice. Granted no 4K.

[@khoifoto]

Franz Pleurmann yeah, that 5K imac screen is actual really good. I’m using it as primary screen for any color critical work and use 2 ips 144hz for other work. The silky smooth 144hz is just too good.

[@jmichaelstone]

I got a Mac Pro back in January, knowing full the cost-to-performance ratio was abysmal. It's fast, but you pay through the nose for it. But the absolutely key consideration that completely eliminates ANY iMac for me... is the built-in display. I do not want one.

[@Edgararredondo14]

Pretty sure their about to change the design next year

[@jordanjohnmusicofficial]

Great video! Thoughtful insight along with thorough and easy to understand analysis. Bravo!

[@ondrejjanoska660]

Today i ren with my i7 5500xt imac Cinebench r20 and i got 4960 points.....and yes i made decision based on your recomendation.....mega happy that i did no spend extra money. Thank you

[@bavideomaker29]

My 2011 iMac is shot...should I get a 2020 iMac 8-core or the new M1 MBP to hold me over until Apple Silicon iMac? I am a hobbyist filmmaker using FCP, iMovie and Apple Photos. I shoot 4K.

[@arunsundararaju]

Hi, I am having, 27Inch Retina 5k Display, 3.8 GHz 8 CORE 10TH Gen i7 Processor, 40GB RAM, 8GB VRAM,1 TB SSD, 10 GB Ethernet Port, Trackpad 2, Keyboard with Numeric Keypad - US English. Can you suggest me an UPS for the above iMac? How to calculate the UPS Voltage requirements for using the iMac.

[@cardermedia]

How soon do you think ARM will be released on iMac Pros and Mac Pros? Because I'm guessing if you buy any Mac that are out now, they'll be redundant faster because of the Intel Xeon processors. What's your thoughts on this?

[@JKNProductions]

The benefit for me to the iMac Pro or the Mac Pro is how much quieter they run

[@77dris]

I have a 2015 iMac and when the fans spin up - which is extremely rare- I don’t even notice it. My fridge is louder. Then again I come from building high end PCs for years and they were way louder and fan noise was 24/7.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

That they are. How large are your projects?

[@mcignatz]

Max - regarding the thermal management of the 2020 iMac and fan noise, for this video editors' matchup, how quiet was the 2020 iMac going head to head against the iMac Pro and Mac Pro?

[@MaksimYuryev]

When editing most of the time it’s just as quiet but when rendering/exporting or transcoding its louder. The iMac Pro is silent most of the time and the Mac Pro always silent. Last years 2019 iMac was super quiet but that’s because Apple throttles the performance a lot (this years i7 is way faster than last i9 and $400 cheaper) so if you want you could limit the performance yourself and keep it running quieter.

[@wildwoodweddingfilms]

I have a 2+ year old 5K iMac that I paid $3,200 for. I am now doing a lot of multicam h.265 4k60. Strongly considering going to the dark side. That’s the video we need! The new Ryzens that come out next month paired with the new 16gb Radeon cards.

[@Aiji00]

1:38 end of tracking :D Very good video, as always :)

[@WhittyPics]

I filled mine up with 128GB. I know it is overkill but it may help when I run a VM

[@sean.sullivan]

I’ve done the same and checked activity monitor often and have seen my ram use up to 121gb. 96gb another time. It was worth it to me. And, runs smooth. I’m only really using C4d, after effects and safari.

[@thirstyjay305]

What do you recommend for storage external memory for editing photos and videos. I have a iMac w 1TB but run out quickly, and using a regular external hard drive from WD is super slow 100mb/sec. thank you!!

[@siriusorion]

Thinking about getting a iMac i7 with a 5700 XT now or wait for M1 Mac mini (not available in Taiwan yet) with a monitor. any suggestions? And please do an i9 5700 iMac vs Mac mini 16gb ram on video editing!!

[@cmoney0619]

Is it worth getting the 5700xt to edit Sony A7SIII footage and Apple iPhone Dolby HDR? or will the 5500xt be able to handle it?

[@timd7712]

Thank you for stating I only need the 5500xt iv been trying to work out my best bang for buck on a new set up. Currently trying to edit on a 2012 Mac book air and it’s painful!!!

[@JabFam]

Oh. my. God

[@fabiomoreira1759]

Thanx Max! Please Can U make a video about music production (logic pro, ableton etc)? Numer of tracks, how many plugins in a track/core etc

[@arunsundararaju]

Hi bro, all your video are useful. Kindly, Please suggest me an ups power supply for imac 27inch 5k

[@ctoLarssonTECH]

Fantastic. I also compared the i7 + 5700XT combo, might be an even better deal for the iMac 🖥 27. Absolutely love your comparison videos. I think I’ve watched every single one 😆 👍🏻🙏🏻

[@MaksimYuryev]

Thank you!

[@77dris]

Can’t wait for those new R5 codecs coming soon!

[@pishia1104]

M1 Processor says hi 😆

[@michellsantana6402]

Is the M1 Mac Mini faster than the i7 intel model with an egpu, for video editing?

[@bavideomaker29]

I’d like to know this too

[@RoyHuang1]

I really enjoy watching your videos, even though I’m diversifying my tech beyond the Apple ecosystem (bought the ASUS ROG Zephyrus Duo 15!). Regardless, your videos are just so darn good in relaying all the key points and observations without all the “fluff” that other bigger YTers do. Keep up the AWWSOME videos :)

[@ResizeFilms]

iMac Pro any day.

[@cmoney0619]

So no need for the 5700xt if editing Sony a7sIII FOOTAGE the 5500xt will be just as fast?

[@coreybrooks3493]

Out of curiosity...when you say that someone should get the 5700xt if doing higher end codecs, what kind of higher end codecs?

[@creativeorstrange]

So you have personally tried 5.9k Canon raw light from the Canon c500 Mark II on the this 2020 5k iMac and it struggled? Can you please go into more detail please? Stay safe!

[@ErwinLeader]

Is there a computer that's good for games and video editing around $2k?

[@TheHitchcockBlues]

Hi Max, do you know if all the graphics options also support 10 bit H265 4.2.0 (E.g. Fuji XT3 footage)? I’m hoping that the 5500 XT is more then enough for that kind of editing. Thanks

[@MaksimYuryev]

Yes!

[@TheHitchcockBlues]

@@MaksimYuryev would you say the 5500 XT gets close to the performance of the old Vega 48?

[@rollingchilling]

still waiting for our BTO imac…

[@ricardorgomez]

Well done on the video. Yes, the performance on the new 5K iMac is just wicked and a fantastic bargain for what you get. My only issue is the screen. 27" is a very good, all-around size. But for professional photos and video editing, 32" is really the sweet spot . I think the next iteration of the iMac Pro will have a slightly watered down version of their 32" XDR Pro screen in there. And will just blow the doors off this 5K iMac in performance. It has to. I'm hoping Apple is thinking along my line for the new iMac Pro. Or a Mac Pro mini that's half the size/expansion but all the performance of the big brother. If not, this new iMac with an external 32" monitor can work for a while too. Though I'd really want the performance of something along the lines of a 16-18 core machine. Yes! Great time to be a Mac user!

[@lukewilliams7020]

Rumours are that they will discontinue the iMac Pro

[@ricardorgomez]

@@lukewilliams7020 That thought crossed my mind actually. But I have two problems with that... 1) Performance. As good as this 5K iMac is, it's not enough for creative professionals. I'm a fashion photography professional and have been doing a lot of high-end retouching lately using Photoshop. I love my little 13" 2020 MacBook Pro. If all I was doing was retouching, it would be completely fine. But if you have a movie playing in the background, have an eMail app open and maybe a browser open, the fan will kick in. This is real world use. Now, this new iMac will give me some more overhead. But not that much more. What if I was doing some automated batch processing from 2 - 3 event shoots in the background and wanted to start retouching with Photoshop or do some video editing and having other apps open? It would bring this new iMac to its knees. Some people would say: why didn't you get a 16" MacBook Pro then? Fair enough. However, that's a pretty big price jump too and I know I wouldn't need that much power in the field and wouldn't be powerful enough in the office. So it would really be a waste of money. 2) Pricing. To get better performance from this iMac would require the Mac Pro if the iMac Pro wasn't an option. Price wise, that's a pretty big jump. Then you would have creative professionals complaining about performance options again. Like when we had the 2013 Mac Pro. So if Apple would discontinue the iMac Pro, they'd have to give creative professionals who don't have $15k to spend an option. I thought my ideas for an updated iMac Pro or Mac Pro mini could totally work. I hope I'm right.

[@lukewilliams7020]

@@ricardorgomez you make a good point

[@KuntalGhosh]

Imagine a zen 3 64 core theadripper & a hackintosh with dual radeon 7 + that cpu🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️ holy hell that would be the worlds fastest mac ever build!

[@84legit]

HI MAX would all this be a none issue if we just create proxy files .. no matter the codec or H.265 ? Im patience for it all. I feel is proxy could solve it then ill just use final cut update. Plus apple may fix that issue u mentioned earlier about exporting / etc . iPhone 12 pro is making them do so .

[@KuntalGhosh]

Put a radeon 7 in the mac pro.. a readon 7 is almost 2 times faster than 5700xt!

[@Goriza]

thats soooooo helpful thx

[@matthchat]

What about fan noise ?

[@TheAudacitytoPodcast]

It's frustrating that Adobe _still_ hasn't improved Premiere Pro on macOS! It seems that by the time they get it together, we'll all be on Apple Silicon by then.

[@lucariccidj]

Hey Max , how is fan noise when editing 8k red raw in davinci ? I own a red 8khelium DSMC2 so I’m thinking to upgrade fro my macpro 13 🗑 trash and windows is not an option for me ..

[@ntc7971]

Hi Max. I am struggling editing all-i Sony A7s III footage on my 16” MacBook Pro with 6 core i7 and highest gpu and 32 gb ram. Do you know what the problem is?

[@memzTV]

Should I sell my iMac Pro for an iMac i9? I found a good deal and it has 128gb ram and 4tb SSD. I mostly want it because of the ssd. haha

[@Sergei__v]

Just get a Samsung 2tB external SSD and don’t sweat it.

[@memzTV]

@@Sergei__v What computer do you recommend?

[@Sergei__v]

@@memzTV your iMac Pro, I have have with 10 cores, should serve you well for a long time. It's a beastly machine. What apps are you using and do you have any hang ups when actively working on a project?

[@memzTV]

@@Sergei__v It’s pretty good, but lately my HDR videos from the iPhone don’t play or Premiere Pro struggles with those videos. :/

[@Sergei__v]

@@memzTV Adobe products take a long time to update. I'd try Final Cut Pro before upgrading the system. In a pinch I'd buy Mac studio M1max base model for video. It has special encoders and decoders for video. Actually double the decoders and encoders over the M1Pro chip. They come with 32Gb of ram on board and can be found easily on sale or refurbished for about $1800 and connect it to the iMac Pro as a screen. Test it out. in summary : 1 step - try Final Cut Pro 2 - Based model Mac Studio

[@piggyooi]

13inch silicone macbook pro for video editors

[@jdlmediaco3541]

I still use a 2017 iMacPro and 2019 MacBook Pro for travel. Also a 2009 Mac Pro tower 😂

[@LouisLuzuka]

I ended up getting the 10 core 5700xt ... I even got nano glass, because I had apple ed pricing and I can’t stop smiling! I wonder if the 24 inch will come in by next month! I still have the 14 day return period

[@creativeorstrange]

Some people have said that text up close is more blurry with the nano texture screen. Have you found that to be the case?

[@khoifoto]

creativeorstrange it is the case. Text is blurry for me.

[@LouisLuzuka]

@@creativeorstrange that’s what I thought at first, but it’s such a joy to use. It’s just a slight difference but it’s only noticeable if you’re looking at it side by side, I wish I had the glossy to compare but so far the nano glass is really nice

[@LouisLuzuka]

@@khoifoto are you returning it?

[@khoifoto]

Louis Luzuka yes. I changed back to the glossy screen. I have a mix of spreadsheets and video/photos editing, so half of my time is dealing with text. If you’re doing mostly video, I think it’s fine.

[@alwarithalkhusaibi7902]

Nice bro ☺️👍

[@humbleprogress1226]

Typing on my 18 core, 64gb, Radeon VII, 2TB Osx/ 1TB Windows 10 hackintosh that geekbenched as a 24 core Mac Pro at $4800...way more than half the price. Don't get played guys...go hackintosh while you still can. That Mac pro ain't worth it.

[@tommih597]

So when are they going to update the iMac "Pro"

[@MaksimYuryev]

I hope soon (this fall) but there’s a chance they will wait for Apple silicon.

[@Piketom1]

@@MaksimYuryev I really feel like the iMac Pro was a halfway measure to hold people over until the Mac Pro came out. I think there is space in the Mac lineup for a machine between the top tier 27" iMac and the Mac Pro. Apple Silicon may change that so we will have to wait and see.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

That's something a few of us are hoping for. With some Navi graphics. (:

[@BoyBlessing]

Bro review the new Macbook M1 Air & Pro!!

[@KokkiePiet]

What, no Dolby Vision iPhone HDR Footage?

[@kevinsmithfilms]

Anyone else notice the NEW IPAD PRO 2020 and the new MAJIC KEYBOARD just sitting there looking all sexy and powerful😉

[@mrheng562]

Great content Max, but why is your hair getting a trim?

[@_rhapsodist]

get a life

[@wickeRstick]

Keep saying you don’t need your Mac Pro bit you still haven’t sold it lol. That Mac Pro is better in so many ways it isn’t even funny. I know it’s ridiculously expensive but if the maxed out iMac and entry level Mac Pro with 5700xt were the same price there would be no question which would sell more.

[@bobuk5722]

If I had wings I would fly.

[@Johanniscool]

Get this review out before ASi drops and renders all these dinosaurs obsolete.

[@mountainhobo]

12:46 [Apple Silicon] -- So when is that coming?

[@PeterbFree]

Nobody knows unfortunately

[@jinraigami3349]

November 17 is the launch event. You could wait to see that. At worst, it would be available on December.

[@mountainhobo]

@@jinraigami3349 Thanks!

[@sean.sullivan]

Now, it’s next Tuesday!

[@WarriorsPhoto]

When it does he'll test it. Thus we'll all know it has arrived.

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

Hi Max, what is performance like if you take three (3) H.264 59.94FPS files and put them in a multicam... I can’t find testing anywhere on that specific application. I have a Panasonic DVX200 camera from 2015 that shoots H.264 59.94FPS 8-bit 4:2:0. Let me know. Thanks. I’m interested in the playback performance only

[@MaksimYuryev]

4K files? The native decoder in the 5500XT - 5700XT can decode 4K up to 90FPS so you could do 3 streams of 30 but not 60 with little stress on the CPU. With that said, for more than that the CPU will take over and it depends on your software. FCX should be able to play it back smooth at full Rez.

[@asafb5907]

@@MaksimYuryev Yes 4K - 3840x2160 @ 59.94FPS in FCPX.

[@asafb5907]

P.S. - where can I see the specs of the 5700XT H.264 decoder information (4K up to 90FPS) as well as NVIDIA's upcoming GTX 3080 for Windows machines? Also, any information on the 6000 series for AMD (Big Navi)?

[@irregularMovementofarts]

Max do you have any info about resolve opening and working with files from the a7s III? I have the free version and it just doesn't want to read the All intra files or even the h.265

[@Bruhtastic_sarP]

The Free Version Doesn't Support The 10-Bit Files AFAIK

[@JohnScaneArt]

I also bought the 10 core 😐... could it ever be clocked higher with a future update?

[@anukulbhatra]

I think not

[@CallMeChato]

Never in the history of any Mac has Apple updated bios settings to improve existing cpu performance. They don’t even overclock the K chips because in iMacs they can’t.

[@ROY-pv8so]

irdk how you only have 183, you should tbh be racking up 800k ATLEAST man

[@offcenterconcepthaus]

Lost a lot of weight -- good for you.

[@djkevinhayes]

Wtf, this guy thinks the T2 chip speeds up a computer?! It’s a security chip. It does nothing for performance.

[@CosminRusu154]

Strange video frame..

[@watrobkasmaczna1]

Lol, I get 3000 cb r20, on ryzentosh r5 2600, which is soooo f... cheap :D

[@alphaandomega2709]

14 people dislike abusive annoying heavily shoving square space ads

[@billx4266]

Pfff again only for video editors, SKIP!

[@MaksimYuryev]

Check out our review our Max tech! We cover a lot more there this channel is in depth for filmmakers.

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