Malenia vs Fingerprint Stone Shield NG+ (1.04, post-nerf)

[@BubbaThe1st]

Seems like it's still pretty good even after the nerf, just not completely free. Impressive kill!

[@TheSuckoShow]

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but she always heals faster than I can deal damage.

[@BastardMan]

You need to be quite aggressive with shield pokes to get the poise break, that's your main source of damage, if you lose momentum you'll fall behind which is probably the issue. Sorry about the slow reply, I just noticed your comment!

[@volodymyr.melnyk]

same, dude, probably 110 lvl is not enough for this meta. I don’t want to use mimic

[@nikhilphilip6655]

This is the exact build I used to beat Melania in NG

[@TLNetworkGuru]

This doesn't work anymore. She heals way to much now.

[@BastardMan]

This definitely still works on ng and ng+, however on ng+2 I couldn't get past phase 2 with this build without mimic (which still trivialised her). You out-damage her healing as long as you're staggering her consistently, that's where your damage comes from.

[@looneymar9153]

done the block+poke mostly kill on her in ng+, i pretty much only rolled/sidestepped waterfowl2&3, thrusting dash, grab, clones, slamming combo enders and phase 2 kicks(couldnt afford turtle talisman with my equip load so had stam issues when blocking loads of kicks), everything else i traded with on block, used treespear+erdtree greatshield

[@kiemugen9830]

use bleed poking weapong

[@cenixandroid]

She staggers only after like 8-10 hits , here it seems at 4 to 7 hits. Is this because my serpent hunter is only +9? I see you also not getting any rotten damage in phase two, what do you do to avoid it?

[@BastardMan]

Yeah, the stagger damage increases with weapon level so +9 is probably the problem. Bear in mind she also recovers poise if you're not aggressive enough, making it take more hits. That'll fix the phase 2 problem too, since you'll recover from the rot buildup while she's staggered. Unless you're just extremely unlucky with phase 2 waterfowl. Try stagger damage flask for phase 2 as well.

[@McNibbler]

no more 100% guard boost with GS talisman?

[@oscar5211]

No. You lose stamina when they hit you now……

[@danielnolan8848]

Probably for the best

[@BikerMiceOne]

Its not do bad its not like your supposed to block forever some enemies can grab you if your block happy

[@NinthGlint]

Sadly not but just have to put a few more points into stamina and wear turtle tali

[@McNibbler]

Tested last night and it’s still totally usable. I guess I need a new talisman to use tho

[@DavidVillaTorre]

Honestly I can't tell the difference without the talisman on

[@Muggshotter]

Damn hesss good

[@patricksomerville738]

what's that weapon?

[@BastardMan]

Serpent Hunter, from the Rykard boss arena

[@jakubjedrasik]

RIP

[@SubFlow22]

Did you have the Greatshield Talisman on or not!!??

[@BastardMan]

I had it on, yes. Talismans in description & you can see it in menu around 4:37

[@Emp6ft10in]

I have found after the patch that Talisman makes no noticeable difference anymore. Test it out. You lose the same amount of stamina with or without it.

[@BastardMan]

@@Emp6ft10in I'm really questioning it too, keen to see the actual numbers. I did notice a slight difference but nothing substantial (possibly placebo?) If it adds 4+ stability it's still worth considering imo, but I suspect it's more like 1-2...

[@Emp6ft10in]

@@BastardMan - Despite the name of the talisman I think they nerfed the effectiveness of it for great shields specifically. Either way I have replaced it for more general damage resistance until I find something more niche.