Mallory Discovery PRESS CONFERENCE in Nepal - Mystery Solved?

COPYRIGHT NOTICE: the footage of the press conference about the discovery of the body of George Mallory on Mount Everest in 1999, which Thom Pollard is commenting on in this video, is owned by the Associated Press. Here is the link to the original material being reviewed in this video: • NEPAL: DOUBT OVER MALL...
I have reached out to the Associated Press on multiple occasions for permission to use this material. Having heard nothing back I posted this video with full disclosure that I am not the owner of said video and in no way would anyone watching this video come to the conclusion that this is a replacement for it.
The video you are about to watch is in no way attempting to be a market substitute for the original material. No one would watch one thinking it's the other. Given that this video is essentially critical commentary of the press conference that is owned, as stated, by Associated Press, no one would ever watch this video and come to the conclusion that it is a market substitute for the original material of that press conference.
On another note, I reached out directly to the Associated Press on multiple occasions asking for permission to use this footage in the exact manner that I've done here. I have not heard anything back, and came to the conclusion that no one was interested in claiming ownership of the material. I of course still gave credit to the owner and kept the 'AP' logo up on the screen at all times.
Respectfully,
Thom Pollard
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[@samsanjeevan2096]

Love your videos. I was only exposed to George Mallory in 2009 after the Jeffery Archer Book, Paths to Glory. I have been searching for information on the expeditions and the finding of his body since then. Thanks to KZbin, there is so much information with so many opinions. I still am on the fence on "Did they or didn't they?" I will be going over all your videos get some wonder information on Mount Everest and the George Mallory expedition(s).... Thank you

[@EverestMystery]

It's great having you here, Sam! I appreciate that you took the time to say hello. Enjoy, and, if you are looking for something that might not exist, let me know...I'm on the lookout for ideas all the time. Take care and thank you!

[@scottinnh88]

Why didn't you guys bring a real archeologist with you guys to really go through his body in a professional way? I mean you guys did act more like Indiana Jones then an actual archeologist.

[@sage6336]

​@@scottinnh88yes its easy to get a real dr up to 28,000 feet

[@weirdhousewivesclub]

​@@scottinnh88I imagine that the amount of people who are both achaeologists or similar trained professions, as well as trained mountaineers who are willing to go to this height is low. While there are many inexperienced climbers going up the mountain now, they clearly wanted experienced people for this project insofar as they were able.

[@jenniferburton2848]

I have not so recently started researching the big "why" and have gotten very interested in the Mallory expedition. Thank you for all your hard work and these videos. Have a luminous day.

[@augiesnyder7481]

I find it unfortunate that other influences on KZbin like Michael Tracey think your lying about summit rocks and all the rest. Lots of people including the author of Into The Silence have tarnished the 1999 expedition and make it out to be this unprepared and unprofessional team of mountaineers just chasing individual glory. Your a good man Thom and one day George Mallory will thank you in heaven for bringing honor back to his name.

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you my friend. When I quit my job to take part in this expedition I thought aloud on at least 100 occasions that there was no way in hell we'd ever find Mallory or Irvine. I honestly don't think anyone was prepared, although the film producers had been in close contact with the family about how the bodies should be handled, with Kodak about the camera and film, things of that nature. Truly, we were a bunch of mountaineers with little (if any) training for such matters. All that said, given the time that we were up there, the information we had, we did as well as anyone. One of the team members said once in reply to a famous British mountaineer absolutely railing on us something to the nature of 'why didn't you go find him yourself and do it better, then?' Fact is, just finding him was miraculous, but we had Jochen Hemmleb's insane research to help us hone in. In my heart @augie snyder I know absolutely full well that GLM and SI will welcome me into their arms when that time comes. Thank you for your words. Cheers!

[@vonp588]

I think the problem isn’t Michael Tracy, it’s the fact the 1999 team wasn’t prepared, they certainly didn’t document their findings well. Plus the refusal to release video is pretty odd.

[@augiesnyder7481]

@@vonp588 true

[@WWIIPacificHistory]

I have to admit that I do watch and enjoy Michael Tracy’s videos and his “theories”, but I don’t really like Tracy’s hubris and self assuredness followed by his disdain and ridicule of people like Thom.

[@annnee6818]

​@WWIIPacificHistory Same. Some of the critiques seem valid and at other times he just appears snooty and appears to think there's a conspiracy to "hide the truth for book deals" which doesn't make sense to me. Also I took issue with the phrase "failed to search the pockets for summit rocks". How on God's green earth to you miss a rock in a pocket if you look in there. That's not a thing.😂

[@mariavaldez7147]

Thanks so much for the tremendous amount of research and time you've spent. In spite of all your sacrifice along the way , you are richer for it and by extension you have enriched our lives as well. You are not letting George Mallory and Andrew Irvine to ever be forgotten no matter whether they reached their goal or not. Thanks again and good luck with the book.

[@EverestMystery]

Maria, I really appreciate your comment...thank you! It means a lot :)

[@tommyfoley462]

@@EverestMystery Ur the coolest boomer by the way .

[@robinengland5799]

Excellent video! Thank you!!

[@mountainclimber48]

Hi Thom. I don’t know how I missed this video when you put it out. It’s fantastic. Thanks.

[@EverestMystery]

So glad you found it! Things were a bit more under the radar at that time....channel seems to be expanding outwardly and finding more people. Thanks for watching and for letting me know!

[@epicv7dayz824]

Thanks mate. I’m no climber, happy to stay at sea level, but I’m so very fascinated with this story. Your calm and assured views are so welcoming in often chest beating self promotional world. Quick question. Did Hilary ever react to that specific press conference ? It seems to me that it was respectful and humble.

[@EverestMystery]

THANK YOU, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate your kind comments. Hillary didn't react to this press conference, but when first told of the news of the discovery he congratulated the team via a BBC interview. Shortly after, when the world turned and began exclaiming that the team were all a bunch of Barbarians hacking away at the body he didn't have much more to say on the topic. I met him in 2004 and I do believe he knew I had filmed the expedition...during our short interview I never got around to asking him about Mallory's discovery....

[@alexgordon4672]

you re a good man thom thanks for all of these vids. this mystery has me captivated. Alot of good guys researching and posting videos on this subject. Yourself, Mr norton and Mr Michael tracey are delivering great material on the subject its much appreciated.

[@EverestMystery]

I'm glad you found the channel....and can only imagine that you've found content on the other side of the aisle (excluding Jake) far more divisive, to say the least. Keeping it positive and endeavoring to bring people together with this fascinating story!

[@19Silverboy82]

Please keep the videos coming and all the information I think it’s great that it’s been left a mystery and will keep people interested for years and years to come

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you! Yes, we all need a good mystery....

[@ktevans881]

I've really been enjoying your channel! Thank you sir!

[@EverestMystery]

It is a true honor to have even a single individual visit this channel and find some level of inspiration within the videos. I appreciate your words and glad that you took the time to share your thoughts with me.

[@ktevans881]

@@EverestMystery Well I am so glad to see I am not the only one enjoying it! and BTW, I would TOTALLY buy your book!!

[@igorbaldo]

Thanks, Thom, for sharing the video and your considerations. And I'll be waiting for your book!

[@EverestMystery]

I thank you! I will be writing quite diligently this summer....

[@stephencopeland238]

Thank you so much for sharing - I really appreciate it

[@EverestMystery]

Stephen, thank you so much for watching!

[@kjewil6125]

Thank you! Very interesting!

[@michaelchesny656]

Thanks for telling this.

[@abbynormal206]

Thanks for another illuminating offering.!!

[@EverestMystery]

It's my great pleasure Abby!

[@williambarkho]

thanks for all your hard work thom…if it wasn’t for you i wouldn’t be so tied to this mystery…good work brother!

[@EverestMystery]

I appreciate that thank you so much! More coming soon :-)

[@shawnmoore4292]

I have always said you are genuine. Your presentations are great and enquiring leaving the viewer to decide how they feel. I work in metres but always try to conceptually work in feet. Thank you Thom for your work.

[@EverestMystery]

Shawn thank you. After being on Everest with Jamie McGuinness (Kiwi) in 2019 it was meters all the time. I'm not proud how Americans are thick in this regard. I appreciate your kind comments

[@pauldevlin9835]

Wonderful Thom thanks for sharing.

[@golden1789]

Great story. Thank you. Good luck with the book. Keep us posted.

[@EverestMystery]

I appreciate it, thank you so much!

[@czarcastic1458]

1000's of graves and tombs have been unearthed and artifacts taken over the years, whats the difference between opening King Tuts tomb and taking his stuff and the 1999 team taking Mallory's stuff. Archeologists at sea level are no different than archeologists at 26 thousand feet. People need to get a grip. Thanks for the video Thom.

[@Kahunahu]

Guess it the age and worth of the grave robbing. One is stealing the other is a discovery.

[@czarcastic1458]

@@Kahunahu How so. They discovered tut's tomb and took a ton of stuff and they discovered Mallory and took nothing. Which is worse?

[@guambyguambelle1864]

Thank you for this wonderful and informative video. I'm still amazed that Mallory was found, and that one day Irvine will be located too. It must mean a lot to any surviving family. I'm be subscribing, for sure!

[@EverestMystery]

It's great having you here, and thank you! I endeavor to bring you more good videos!

[@andressalcedo4934]

My deepest respect for you and congratulations for your channel, I stumbled upon your channel by chance and I can't have enough apparently :) I first became aware of the Mallory and Irvin Mistery in high school and have been puzzled ever since, I have read the book Lost on Everest and have seen documentaries and followed the news, but your channel surpasses every information source by far and Im literary hooked again with it. I would love to meet you in person one day and just shake your hand. Thank you so much!

[@andressalcedo4934]

In the video you say you had the chance to see Mallories face. I thought the body was frozen solid to the ground a could not be turned. Can you talk a little bit about this maybe in another video? how was his face? was it bruce? What did you feel to see his face?

[@EverestMystery]

Greetings my friend, thank you! I'm so happy you found the channel and even more so that you took the time to let me know. I really appreciate it

[@EverestMystery]

Hi Andrew, I believe I speak about this in another video. Please check on this playlist, which has my Mallory & Irvine videos. Also, I am writing now and hope to publish more about my encounter with George Mallory. Cheers and thanks again: kzbin.info/aero/PLwmpwZ6gVdGy03uHt2aYVqJrc7gXFfPBP

[@rosalinaacevedo5054]

Hello. I’ve been enjoying your videos.

[@EverestMystery]

I'm glad you found the channel and hope that you've been enjoying the more recent content!

[@loganfergus]

Big fan, Mr. Pollard. Keep the content coming 👍

[@kjewil6125]

Very interesting! Thank you.

[@EverestMystery]

I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@donttalktome4696]

You seem like a really cool dude. Your KZbin channel is super relaxed, and I had no idea the history that you have witnessed.

[@EverestMystery]

I truly appreciate your thoughts and glad that you're here. I will keep bringing content and hope to maintain the relaxed vibe. Take care and thank you!

[@morrimohr439]

Hi Tom - been watching your channel for a few weeks now and like your dialogue and civility. I watched the comprehensive video that had video coverage from the mountain and personal interviews from the expedition members. It was very compelling but one thing stood out for me among all other aspects was that while gathering the group around Mallory’s body there was a serious discussion I regards to disturbing the body. I would’ve thought the expedition party would’ve thought this out in great detail and had a established plan in the event of finding either Irvine or Mallory. Did anyone contact their family members to convey their wishes? I would be very interested in your take this aspect and what you feel you could’ve done differently in retrospect if anything? You all are high altitude mountaineers an I’m guessing could’ve surmised the fact you would need to peel an exposed body (that’s been up there this long) away from the mountain to gather forensic information as to the details of Mallory or Irvines death. Which is why I was surprised that the appearance was this was not discussed in advance. I am I no way being critical but am curios as to what the thinking was beforehand.

[@EverestMystery]

Hi Morri, thank you! Yes, both families were contacted in advance of the 1999 expedition. Their wishes were adhered to as far as possible, including reading Psalm 103 from the Bible after covering GLM with rocks, as the family asked for us to specifically do. The shock of actually finding GLM's remains was overwhelming, I dare say, to all of us. The most thought-out plans and countless discussions with the team can't really prepare one for the emotional impact of suddenly encountering one of the greatest mountaineers of his generation. I believe that to a man - at least I can say this for myself - the feeling was that while although we had permission to do this, it was one thing to think about at sea level and altogether another thing when it is actually happening, at 27,000 feet in the windswept face of Mount Everest, no less, in the presence of a great man who had been lost for 75 years, the icon of his generation. I'm not sure if that answered the question, but I truly hope it helps. Thank you for your interest!

[@coryfice1881]

Stuff like that always happens. When they found the titanic there was a similar reaction and then realization once they calmed down.

[@alexk2652]

Love these in depth sessions Thom. Really appreciate your work.

[@EverestMystery]

Alex, thank you my friend! I hope all is well in your antipodean autumn!

[@juanitaduval9856]

Great video Thom. Very interesting

[@EverestMystery]

Glad you think so! I will be posting more Mallory and Irvine content this year....I hope you enjoy it!

[@bcb912]

It's so crazy. This video is just beginning. I felt comfortable last vieo because you reminded me of all the genuine, nice people I've met in life. I was comfortable because of your demeanor. Now, your friends say that's the toned down you! I'm just enjoying your stuff!

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you for watching, I'm happy that you enjoyed it! It's great having you here.... :)

[@edkiely2712]

Thomas, how long was the press conference in Kathmandu approximately and is there a full mp4 video version available or even mp3 that you or someone else on the team might have access to? I know you said at the end of the video that you got the snippets off of YT, but is there a complete version of the press-conference available anywhere that you know of?

[@EverestMystery]

Hi Ed, great question....I do know that there were some journalists there filming the entire press conference. I could probably track it down if I did some detective work....there was a journalist from Nepal whom I've had contact with recently (regarding my garbage on Everest video), as well as a couple American journalists...and this AP footage probably originally had the event in full. I believe the presser lasted possibly 15-20 minutes, then concluded with questions, then a period of time where people mingled and took pictures and footage of the artifacts. All in all we were probably in there for an hour. It really would be great to see the entire press conference! Thanks for watching!

[@edkiely2712]

@@EverestMystery Thx!

[@davidroberts5577]

Very grateful for all you are sharing!

[@EverestMystery]

It's a pleasure, thank you for watching!

[@davidroberts5577]

@@EverestMystery Namaste 🕉️

[@tatt2u2]

Awesome information and content

[@EverestMystery]

I really appreciate it, thank you!

[@NefariousEnough]

A genius evaluation. The prose is exceptional. Thanks, again!!!

[@EverestMystery]

I truly appreciate it, thank you for watching!

[@kellydiver]

Amazing. Seeing the artifacts lends a sense of reality to Mallory that transcends the “story.” I’m curious - when you saw the face, were you able to recognize and identify the body as Mallory? Also, do you still have the watch? (For what it’s worth, I have no particular sensitivities about the remains or the artifacts. My best guess is that Mallory would appreciate being remembered and honored for his achievement.)

[@EverestMystery]

Hi Kelly, when I saw his face I exclaimed aloud to Andy 'Yes that's him!'....he was the person I'd seen in a hundred photographs. Regarding the artifacts, I had no say in what happened to them...although, in my mind, it was a no brainer to get everything straight to the family. Thank you Kelly!

[@mac1975]

I watch the film when you found GM over and over again. Sadly I feel Sandys body was swept away and if there is any truth in the story regarding the Chinese finding his body and O’dells camera, I think it should be pursued.

[@lizzyrose6580]

Are there any images of Mallory's face as you found him? All the pictures I can find on the internet of him seem to have his head covered by rocks. And....I'm really curious as to how just one of his boots came off.

[@tonylawrence9157]

Thank you very, very much for this good presentation. You do know what you are talking about. Most humbly I do not think that Mallory and Ervin made it to the top. Thank you again. Wish you a long and good life. Bloke from Aus.

[@EverestMystery]

You're very welcome, I'm glad you stopped by. I send you glad tidings from the States. Thank you!

[@teresacorrigan3076]

🇨🇦I really found the authenticity video enlightening 🌞

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you Teresa!

[@thomaskaplan4898]

I really enjoyed the video. I was also unaware how thoroughly you searched GM's pockets. I would be fascinated to hear about the timeline and decisions that went into visiting the body of GM twice. I would definitely be interested in your book.

[@josm1481]

It was a bunch of amateurs treasure hunting and this video reinforces that. Thoms lack of attention to detail and emphasis is theatrics just shows that. The focus on book deals is revealing.

[@czarcastic1458]

@@josm1481 The families didn't complain at all and were very grateful. You are not very mature.

[@josm1481]

@@czarcastic1458 sorry, your hypocrisy is ironic. Saying nobody complained is the defense of a child. It's well recorded a glove went missing from discovery to archive. This article itself is light on details. Try harder?

[@ms50fifty]

Great videos and I have been interested in this mystery since I heard about it last year thank you for taking the time to create these videos!😊 I was wondering do people have to have guides to climb Everest if so how do people end up alone and die?

[@EverestMystery]

I'm so happy you found this channel! Here is a playlist of videos about the Mystery of Mallory and Irvine: kzbin.info/aero/PLwmpwZ6gVdGy03uHt2aYVqJrc7gXFfPBP The people left behind are typically with very young and inexperienced guides....some of them with almost no experience guiding at altitude. These are the lower budget expedition operators.

[@Mila_Brearey]

I saw the doc where they found his body and pocket contents. He is amaxingly well preserved - as if he died yesterday.

[@EverestMystery]

So cool that you saw that film....it's such a fascinating story. Thanks for sharing, good to have you here

[@kpd3308]

Hi Thom, 1. Yes, I will buy your book! 2. "Trying to act natural" seems like an oxymoron! Your earnestness and lack of pretense comes through very clearly. I really enjoy your open-minded discussions. 3. I have always thought that the position he was found in was very powerful, as if he were still clawing his way up the mountain these past 75 years. A symbol of his resolve and strength. 4. I was not aware that the team had done a thorough search of his pockets, etc. until now. I thought that maybe conditions and/or reticence might have been factors, hence the "any rocks" question. It must be frustrating for the discovery team to hear critics who are ignoring the facts.

[@EverestMystery]

Super glad you enjoyed the video and even more so that you found out things you hadn't previously known. Thank you for taking the time to write. PS, I'll let you know when that darn book is out! :)

[@susanhoneycutt5610]

I’m watching your video about a year from the drop. Is your book out yet?

[@boazteitler274]

hello Thom. thanks for the Video. i wanted to ask you the following. i understand that after finding GLM's body you searched upward from its site for the camera. but did you also try to go down from the site of GLM's body to try & see whether you can find the camera or any other artifact there?

[@EverestMystery]

Greetings and thank you for watching. Yes, we did search below....but, the slope beneath GLM angled down about 20 feet or so then dropped over what one could rightfully say is a ledge. Anything that went more than 20 feet below him probably went another thousand. I didn't dare go too close to the edge, as the footing was unstable at best. Really appreciate that you watched and took the time to comment!

[@marks_sparks1]

Great video Mr Pollard. Have you spoken to other expedition members since then (Politz, Richards etc) about 1999 or do you intend to?

[@EverestMystery]

I'm frequently in touch with Andy, Jake, Jochen. I have been on a filming trip with Conrad to India, but it's been years...time has a way of doing things. Did Aconcagua with Dave Hahn in 2009 for an Eddie Bauer film. Eric I've spoken to several times, but rarely since 2014. Tap is less inclined to reply to a note unless I hunt him down, which I intend to do one day.

[@cetin1864]

Story of Mallory is i think best explanation of human will. We as a species always trying to achieve that impossible goal. And most of the times no one can achieve impossible in just one step. Through sacrifices of pioneers like Mallory we achieved the impossible. Thanks and RIP to every human who gave their lives to dream of achieving impossible. You guys move humanity one step ahead.

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you so much for watching! Much appreciated!

[@arsenal10141014]

Excellent video. Great to see the NYT article. Get a real sense of the time.

[@EverestMystery]

Joel, glad you liked it. That NY Times article, solid gold!

[@markdeschane4467]

Can you tell me if Mallory's Body has now been removed from Everest? I have seen conflicting reports on this issue, so don't know what is the status.

[@wakeizland]

I always suspected that the search team would have collected the infamous summit rocks from Mallory's pockets, if they had found any. But I think summit advocates will still argue that the rocks were knocked out of his pockets when Mallory was forcibly dislodged from the ice. Even so I am glad to hear Thom Pollard directly address the summit rocks issue.

[@EverestMystery]

If a rock was accidentally dropped from a pocket and tumbled downhill, that I don't know. However, everything in his pockets came down to Base Camp. I can't imagine a rock getting lost when a tiny pencil made it. That said, I would need to query every individual from the five who were there on 1 May. I readily maintain there were no rocks in any of his pockets, as they would have made it to Base Camp. Cheers my friend!

[@scottinnh88]

Irving could have held the rocks on him. Who knows.

[@danielrichards4927]

I am new to this channel and am obsessed with Mallory and Irvine. Can you do a video on what injuries Mallory actually had suffered when you found him. I have heard he hit his head with an ice axe while falling etc. but I haven’t seen definitively any kind of video explaining the injuries he suffered and maybe that could explain more of the accident and where sandy could potentially be.

[@EverestMystery]

I'm glad you found the channel, it's good having you here. Yes, I'll do more content on the Mystery of M&I this year, and have something coming out fairly soon that you will enjoy. In the meantime, hopefully the Mallory & Irvine playlist has given you a bunch of content to dive into: kzbin.info/aero/PLwmpwZ6gVdGy03uHt2aYVqJrc7gXFfPBP&si=NuBUQ9OL-LJbzn52

[@rishiwalker2027]

Hi Thom, two questions: were Mallory's eyes open? And regarding Irvine, you have mentioned your feeling that he was stuck there, his soul, on the mountain, and that you felt you had or could help free it. Can you develop that? Finding his body and making a grave for it, you feel, is what is needed? Thanks and regards from south India.

[@EverestMystery]

Greetings, my friend. His eyes were closed. The essence of freeing Sandy was not on a physical plane, but on an emotional or spiritual plane. I no longer have the feeling that he is there....

[@korbendallas71]

Looking forward to the book Thom! I’d definitely buy. All the best!

[@EverestMystery]

I'll definitely keep you posted! I have the outline, several chapters, no agent, no publisher....but, making it happen! Thank you!

[@Cape_Cod_Steve]

Hey Thom , Very interesting content , as was your previous video . Fair Use Doctrine should/could cover your limited use of copyrighted materials. So glad to hear a book is in the works, might crowd funding at least help a little to publish ? Hit or miss on that . Pesticides finally getting properly researched here on Cape Cod , being found in our drinking water , ponds, etc... As for some of the Everest discourse , " haters gonna hate " unfortunately , you do a great job with them . Regards, Steve

[@EverestMystery]

Steve, thank you (and apologies on taking so long to reply!). Big Cape Cod fan here, many friends whom we visit several times per year down there, had to pull the plug on a visit this weekend, coincidentally because of the snow situation. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and hope you've been liking the newer content that I've put up since this one first went live. Cheers

[@Cape_Cod_Steve]

@EverestMystery No need for any apology. We lucked out here with about an inch of snow. Keep up the great work , it's not easy doing what you do . Appreciate you . Peace and Health.

[@texashunter]

Great story

[@nancycoole5217]

Thank you for ALL your videos. Even tho im older, im just delving into Everest, Sir Edmond Hillary, Tenzing Norgay, George Mallory and Sandy Irvine. I am soaking the information up like a sponge! It is so fascinating and breathtakingly Beautiful. Imho, i am in the camp that believes THEY MADE IT!!

[@EverestMystery]

Thanks so much, I'm happy that you found the channel. Here is a playlist with a bunch more Mallory & Irvine videos on the channel: kzbin.info/aero/PLwmpwZ6gVdGy03uHt2aYVqJrc7gXFfPBP

[@sheikantoniovonpeanutbutte9667]

Great vid! I’ve always been curious about Mallory’s missing left boot - was it near George’s body or maybe it degraded over time and disintegrated?

[@EverestMystery]

We never found it.....always a mystery! Thank you for watching!

[@johnwhite8777]

I forgot whodid the story of the ice axe pixs in the chinese mussium..inside the case there is a 10x12 photo of a boot and short handel axe inside the artifacts display ..and it looked to me to be mallory's missing boot.and if you are not looking at the photo youll mis it..

[@thievinggoats4806]

Your observation about the frostbite was really interesting. Like may change my mind about them summiting interesting.

[@EverestMystery]

It has always been something close to my mind....but, still, I truly want to be proven wrong and learn that they made it. I'm rooting for them! Thank you!

[@WellyCoaster]

@@EverestMystery Hi Thom, I too found the lack of frost bite really intersting as well. My gut feeling has been that they turned back during the blizzard. It may not have been the super storm some suggested but Odell recalled he could only see a few yards so it was obviously thick, similar to the 1933 storm that Longland and his porters fought through. Mallory being aware of the coming monsoon I think he turned around after initially giving it a go and they had their accident on the way down in poor visability and snow.

[@114D]

Hello. Thank you for this video. I wanted to know if you all felt overwhelmed with emotion when finding GLM? I know you were all excited to find an icon, almost a mythological figure - with GLM missing for so long and being entrenched in mountain climbing lore within the community - did you feel sadness? I ask this because I began to cry when the team read Psalm 103. If I'm not mistaken, I could hear what I felt like sobbing in the background as it was read aloud. Were your reactions in that moment similar to mine? Were members of the expedition sobbing at all in that moment? I just felt so much emotion watching it happen on KZbin years later. I can only imagine what you felt and the team? Thanks in advance.

[@EverestMystery]

I was indeed shedding tears, and I believe that is me you are hearing in the film. It was overwhelming to be there, one of the pivotal experiences of my life. I was in awe not of the icon in front of me, but of the loss of a living and breathing human being who left behind three young children, a wife, friends, family, a home....decades of life that would never be lived. I struggled to keep myself together in that moment when Andy read Psalm 103. All I have to do is close my eyes and I'm immediately transported there....that feeling has never left me. I think of it every single day, many times a day....that has happened for 23 years now. Thank you for your thoughts and for taking the time to watch.

[@tracycameron5099]

totally with you

[@josm1481]

@@EverestMystery sorry Thom, this entire video is about half hour of drama and fluff but so little about the actual discovery. Please, try to be more scientific? I'm saying that not because I think you guys have done anything wrong but if you don't relay the details it looks like you were a bunch of amateurs. Ironically, I think if you guys explained the details most people would be sympathetic to the challenges. You been to bottom out why a glove went missing etc?

[@archivist68]

Hi, late to the party, but your replay of the AP footage can definitely come under educational "fair use". Of course, there will always be someone or entity that might dispute it but to what end? The case wouldn't get too far in copyright court. Glad you played it! I enjoy your videos and am interested in the M and S debate. Also, I was smiling at the the comments you get about the summit rocks--looking for possible summit rocks in a "sea" of rocks in which M is embedded. Combine that with the shock of encountering the body it seems that the rocks were low on the priority list though I realize, too, that "armchair" sleuths would not be happy about it Thank you for your efforts to draw together a community of interested people in this topic!

[@EverestMystery]

I appreciate your thoughts and comments, thank you! Yes, the idea that we didn't set out to LOOK for rocks is no argument for us dropping the ball. If there were rocks in his pockets, we'd have found them and brought them down. Very weak argument which now makes me just shake my head.... The use of that footage. I took the copyright claim to KZbin and lost. Go figure. The owner of the footage (AP), if anything, benefitted from me using the materials. It's all good...I truly appreciate that the footage exists in the first place. Glad you are here and sharing your thoughts!

[@Elisabeth208]

awesome,thank you Thom ive always had a intrigue about George Mallory and Andrew "Sandy" Irvine ,i have always since i can remember been fascinated about whether they summited i like to believe they did ,maybe one day there will be proof that they did ,all we can do is hope and always keep them in our memories,regards Elisabeth

[@EverestMystery]

Thanks so much Elisabeth, I appreciate that you took time out to share your thoughts. I also hope there is one day proof of whether they made it or not!

[@kensilverstone1656]

I appreciate the inside information you presented. It adds to the picture of the mystery of Mallory and Irvine

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you, I'm really pleased that you enjoyed the video. Cheers

[@brunolimacherbraccini1133]

I just got here after I finished reading "The third pole" and couldn't let go of the topic. The book describes the historic events and the actual search & general time the author spent on Mount Everest so vividly, that it got me sucked in completly. Guess I'm part of the club now. I appreciate all the work that was put into solving this mystery and I truly hope that someday, somehow there will be a final answer to the remaining questions. Completing the story once and for all would let these honorable men finally find peace, I guess.

[@weenbaby]

did you ever watch Finding Michael? I watched it yesterday and they found a body that they said had super old climbing clothes. As far as I know they didn’t even try to ID the body because they were looking for Michael, all they did was see if the person was wearing a watch.

[@EverestMystery]

I know I'm going to have to watch the film eventually....for some reason I've been kind of avoiding it....while I have produced and filmed four Everest documentaries, I don't enjoy actually watching them. That said, I believe the film took place on the south side, in Nepal....and Mallory is in the north, on the Tibet side. Your comment has me quite interested in seeing the film now, I appreciate that you took the time to comment, thank you!

[@boondocksadventures2328]

I guess my question is why they never did a movie on Mallory and Irvine's 1924 climb. It has everything you need for a good movie.

[@EverestMystery]

A well done movie on them would be fantastic... I believe one was in production for some time, but I am not sure of the status of it. Thanks for watching this video!

[@well_i_liked_it]

Was there a return expedition for Irvine?

[@EverestMystery]

yes, in 2019 we returned and completed a documentary for National Geographic and Disney+ called Lost On Everest.

[@joepalooka2145]

The never-ending worldwide interest in Mallory and Irvine is totally understandable. The discovery of Mallory's body makes it even more fascinating as we all hope for the discovery of Irvine. It's created a very profitable mini-industry of TV shows and books and KZbin channels all devoted to speculating on "If they find the camera, it could prove they made the summit". However despite all I've read, I will defer to one of the world's greatest experts on the subject ---- Reinhold Messner. In his book "The Second Death Of George Mallory" Messier analyzes what happened and comes to conclusion that there was NO WAY they could have got over the Second Step, summited, taken photos, and then made the descent. That's fiction which ignores the historical reality. Messier gives the reasons as an experienced mountaineer, not as an amateur speculator. They were turned back in deteriorating weather in temperatures around -30 to -40 with further wind chill, freezing in totally inferior clothing, with virtually no food or water, probably unable to see the route back down, their oxygen probably failing or useless, and essentially doomed. Then one of them slipped, and they both fell to their deaths.

[@markpurdy9860]

They never attempted the second step rather traversed the step by the zig zag route. Mallory took the advice of Norton and went around the second step. Odell observed them at the base of the pyramid at 12:50 and said they were climbing quickly. I believe they summited and fell on the way down.

[@EverestMystery]

I tend to side with this thinking that Joe has shared, even adding in the possibility of M&I taking the Norton Couloir. I've been wrong a million times before in my life and would love to be proven wrong in this instance. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts, Joe.

[@TomSmith-kc8mz]

Unrelated note, that automobile search case is BEFORE the Supreme Court took the case which is a landmark decision that to this day is still the guiding case on how police can and can't search cars. Crazy.

[@iangibson8997]

Hi Thom. Try this for converting metric to imperial units. Converting metres to yards simply add 10% (i.e. 500M becomes 550 yards), then of course multiply by 3 to get feet. It's accurate to about 0.5%

[@EverestMystery]

Ian, thank you! I'm always doing some odd multiplication by 3.2 or something....ahhh! I like the way that you've suggested (I will not attempt this in front of a live audience lol)

[@davem8836]

Or just learn the metric system like the rest of the world uses....lol

[@rogjackson]

Fascinating. I have a somewhat vague memory of Mallory's discovery, but I do remember that I also had a semi-instinctual feeling that his discovery would somehow solve the mystery of whether he and Irvine summitted. That instinctual impression was inaccurate, as we know. Did you take photographs during your search or is that somehow inappropriate? I could go either way on that question. If it wasn't Mallory, I would think no photos is the more respectful approach. But in this circumstance, with the entire globe wanting to know whether he and/or Irvine summited, and although I might be wrong, I get the impression that Mallory himself would probably want objective facts to be known. Thus, it might have been acceptable to take photos in the interest of preserving the history of Mallory's discovery. I don't know. Just one person's opinion. I'm not a super religious person. If I was in Mr. Pollard's shoes, I would have taken photos and I would share them. But I am not in his shoes. I also note, this video is a first hand, personal account, of a search of George Mallory's effects. That search and Mr. Pollard's description thereof, is not second hand, and thus, deserves significant weight. To some extent, it preserves the record of what happened from Mr. Pollard's perspective. Cool video.

[@nunyafuckinbizniz]

Can you tell us about the knife that was found? And the climbers uses for a knife...modern knives vs this one.

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you for watching.....I will have to ask Jochen Hemmleb about the knife. That said, a knife is important for cutting a rope if in a jam, and for cutting food and cleaning fingernails....the whole deal.

[@christopherreinsmith1401]

Thom, ( and if you have already answered this question, I missed out ), When you went back in 2019, was George Mallory , still in his resting place?

[@EverestMystery]

Yes, all signs point to GLM being in the same spot that we found him. As he is covered with stones, I would imagine that without precise GPS coordinated it would be very unlikely to locate him. Thank you for watching!

[@nicklumsden1238]

Great effort 👍

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you my friend! Glad you took the time to watch....truly appreciate it

[@nicklumsden1238]

@@EverestMystery it was fascinating

[@tracycameron5099]

I would love to read your book. Recommend.. Into the Silence by Wade Davis. very comprehensive history book that begins with early mountaineering in England, thru WW1 and the after effects of it on the mountaineering community, as well as extensive research into Mallory himself, his family and colleagues and the politics around summiting Everest. fascinating, pleasing read.

[@EverestMystery]

The Wade Davis book is exceptional. He called me several times while writing it, to ask about my experience up there, about the watch I found. Great book. I can only hope to create something 1/10th as good!

[@Martinbo]

I would definitely buy your book!

[@EverestMystery]

Excellent, I hope to make it worth it!

[@Smobro12]

Super cool channel. I can’t physically attempt anything above 13k’ but this channel helps me absorb the mysteries above. Thanks for the channel. Really enjoying it.

[@EverestMystery]

I'm really glad that you found the channel and are enjoying the videos. There is plenty more to come in the months to follow!

[@alfrede.neuman8898]

As a mail carrier I delivered many issues of Outside magazine. When Mallory was discovered in 1999 that issue had a cover photo of his corpse propped up and facing the camera. It was ghoulish. I assume Mallory’s surviving family members lodged a complaint with the magazine. That photo doesn’t appear on the internet anywhere.

[@megfrank8372]

U don’t have to change anything abt urself when u r presenting ur info Thom, u r upbeat enuf. Ur enuf ! A noble friend, and armchair Everest enthusiast 🙏😊🙏

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you Meg. I've learned a lot since doing this video....having read hundreds and hundreds of comments and producing a ton of videos. It's been a fun ride. I appreciate your participation in this channel

[@82566]

I think having those moments w Mallory and just being in that energy reflecting to me would be priceless more then a summit but iam sentimental that way & mean no disrespect in saying this .Enjoyed ur video and always be urself, look forward to ur book 📖

[@EverestMystery]

Many thanks to you for your thoughts and for watching! I appreciate that you enjoyed it!

[@leeseaman6068]

Hi Thom, I'd be really interested in purchasing and reading your book should it get published. There's a big feeling of unfinished business regarding this mystery. I gather that if one could prove conclusively that Mallory and Irvine did not reach the summit then we would feel at peace with this. This niggling possibility that they achieved the near impossible drives the collective human spirit. It's like an adrenaline rush. I can only imagine what it would be like, what the collective reaction would be if there was photographic evidence of their success? You mention Graham Hoyland, and having read his book "Last Hours on Everest", he reaches the conclusion that it would have been too much for Mallory and Irvine to have reached the summit, but originally in the BBC documentary, Hoyland expresses his reasons why he believed Mallory and Irvine had summitted. It's understandable that people change their mind, but clearly Graham Hoyland changed his opinion quickly. I believe that when people change their opinions quickly that it is a sign of being unsettled, and even though it's understandable, there is something unsettling about this mystery. Eric Simonson seems like someone who has a firm and conclusive temperament. Once he reaches a decision, it's final. From what I've read in "The Third Pole", that Simonson felt obliged or even under pressure to make the photos of Mallory go viral because it had become public knowledge so quickly, but in retrospect it seemed to have been a bad decision. I do recall in "The Wildest Dream" where Conrad Anker said that when he noticed a very old body in the snow that for a moment there he felt like keeping it to himself. It just shows how in our day and age the line between things being kept secret and things going viral is very thin indeed. It's also unusual that the New York Times article about the discovery of Mallory was written by Christopher S. Wren. Straight away it's makes me think about the great seventeenth century English polymath, architect and astronomer, Sir Christopher Wren. It's interesting to note that the discovery of Mallory may have influenced the James Bond franchise, by creating the character of "Gareth Mallory" or "M", played by Ralph Fiennes. Certainly, it's a curiosity. I wonder what your thoughts are on that? Being a cameraman on Mount Everest although a privilege, must be a tough task. I also wonder how you felt pulled not only by the discovery of Mallory, but also by the pull of the summit? You must have been itching to kill two birds with one stone? I believe Conrad Anker reached the summit a decade later while filming "The Wildest Dream" and climbing the Second Step free hand?

[@EverestMystery]

Dear Lee, thank you for the truly awesome comment....your observations are razor sharp. It wasn't lost on me that the NY Times article was written by Christoper Wren! I did a double take the first time I saw it. Fitting, indeed. You bring up a good point on all accounts. I'll focus now on the idea of changing one's mind. Personally, after having been at the site of GLM's remains, I never got the feeling that he made it. I recorded sound for many of the interviews in Base Camp (or was there to assist the director of photography) and listened as some of the climbers said how they believed M&I made it. It didn't sit right with me. Now, be assured, I want to be convinced otherwise. I would jump for joy to learn that they made it. I suppose half of this effort in peeling back the layers is ignited by the fact that I want to be wrong about thinking they didn't make it. However, as I alluded to in this very video, my heart in this story is with Sandy Irvine, who got caught up in something bigger than himself. I channeled his spirit for the year leading up to the 2019 expedition, and honestly felt like I knew him. We conversed during my long training runs/hikes up Mount Washington in New Hampshire. So, in Graham changing his mind quickly...perhaps you're correct about your observations. I truly should contact Graham for a conversation. He is a sensitive and intelligent man, whom I wish I could have had more conversations during the 1999 expedition. I'll jump to the Bond films with Gareth Mallory. For sure, I think GLM is in the collective consciousness of the world now. Whether purposely or purely by chance, I don't think it's a mistake that someone like M is on the big screen. But, I'm a romantic, so....you never know! I look forward to continuing this conversation. Thank you Lee!

[@leeseaman6068]

Dear Thom, I feel truly privileged to be having this conversation with you. First of all, regarding the character of "Gareth Mallory" in the James Bond franchise I couldn't agree more that this is definitely a sign as you allude to that "GLM is in the collective consciousness of the world now." I think it's wonderful that you feel you've been having a spiritual form of conversation going on with Sandy Irvine in the area where you live. I'm gathering that New Hampshire is a lovely part of the world, and is related to or twinned with the county of Hampshire in the UK? Coming from England myself, I've been to the US a couple of times: Chicago and Breckenridge, Colorado for skiing. Both remarkable experiences. However, I digress. To have this spiritual connection with Sandy is remarkable. He maybe like a soulmate who's giving you steady "heavenly downloads" from beyond our limited matrix. I have read "Fearless on Everest" by his great niece, Julie Summers - a very articulate, and well-spoken lady who provides a romantic and detailed insight into the short life of her great uncle. Sandy clearly achieved so much in his short life, but at 22 it ended so soon, and maybe in part why one may feel emotionally connected with his plight. One may think it could have been a chance encounter when a young Sandy bumped into Noel Odell and his wife in the hills of North Wales before being taken on the Spitzbergen expedition, as well as a trip to Switzerland before heading for Everest. You may be interested to know that I have worked at a language school in Fulham, which is just across the river from Putney, where there's a picture of Sandy back in the early 1920's getting ready for canoeing training or the Oxford Cambridge boat race itself with his team members. I believe Noel Odell and Sandy had met up in Putney too. Funnily enough, Gregory Peck back in 1975 was involved in a scene on the Fulham side of the river in Bishops Park while filming "The Omen", which is pretty much opposite from where Sandy's photo was taken outside the boat house! The fact you point out that Sandy "got caught up in something bigger than himself" only adds to the romanticism of the entire story. It increases his mystique. He was a young, adventurous, intrepid and extremely talented young man. However, as Julie Summers described Sandy in "The Wildest Dream" that he was someone who would grab life by the horns or the bull by the horns, if an opportunity presented itself really highlights his personality and character. How did Sandy manage to get so high on Everest with the very limited mountaineering experience he had? It seems also that as an engineer he was so ahead of his time when trying to create a worthwhile oxygen apparatus, when the reputable company who designed them failed to consider his insight and advice. It's interesting when you say you've had communication with Sandy Irvine because you may know about the British Shakesperian actor, Brian Blessed who like Mallory I believe attempted to climb Everest three times. Apparently, Brian Blessed had contact with GLM in a dream where George rebuked Brian for his foolishness for trying so hard, on something along those lines!

[@Kahunahu]

Hello, Thom; I am interested in the search area. What went into where and how the search was preformed. How did they get to Mallory? Was it by dumb luck or did they have an educated idea of where to start. Was there any pre-planning of What will be done, if the expedition actually did find one of them? Let alone detailed plans. Also, you spoke of keeping it secret, then finding out that the secret wasn't a secret. Can you talk to the what and why of that? Why was keeping the find a secret even a thing? I get not telling where the body is located. Did everyone agree to not talk at first? Was there any real expectation of finding anything? When there was a find, did everyone rush to get the first 'Scoop'. Sound like it all fell apart around that time. Lastly A video on just how the expedition fell apart from what sounds like over night. Sounds like nobody actually expected to find either one of the men, let alone what to do if they did. Am I wrong? Thanks!

[@EverestMystery]

Many thanks for watching....I'll try to answer a couple questions, and perhaps save your comment for my 'comments' video coming out soon. Before the expedition Jochen Hemmleb had done considerable research of a proposed search area that took into consideration all of the clues that we knew, such as the location of the ice axe discovered in 1933, the location of the 1924 02 bottle that Eric Simonson saw in 1991, the discovery of Wang Hongbao near Camp VI of an 'old English dead', and so on. While Conrad found the body outside of the zone we were searching in, the location of GLM was just underneath it, at a slightly lower altitude. We had extensive conversations about what would happen if a body was discovered, and had detailed instructions from the families about how they would like that to go (ie, read Psalm 103, etc). The secret lasted about 10 minutes, once the Mountainzone website released a photo seen 'round the world of GLM's back, which would ultimately be seen in Newsweek Magazine, etc....released by a team member. It was all good, but took the majority of the team by surprise. I certainly didn't expect to find anyone....but had seen a few bodies on previous expeditions, and had an idea of how I'd handle it. Cheers and thank you for the thoughtful questions!

[@garysmith5641]

As a Brit , Because its there is a retort of frustration . like telling kids to be quiet ,

[@EverestMystery]

Ah, that makes sense! Perhaps he'd had quite enough of that question on his tour of the States(?)!

[@garysmith5641]

@@EverestMystery I dont suppose we will ever know how he said it but , thats the nearest i think what he meant , Journalists can be a drag and Edwardians are polite , they dont insult you , they give double meanings , we still are like that today over here , they say it can take a week before you know an Englishman has roasted you

[@jcdova29]

It was very cool that the artifacts were made available to the Mallory family.

[@EverestMystery]

Although I had no say in what happened with the artifacts, I agree with you! Thanks for watching

[@coconutz247]

any photos taken of mallory's face for the public?

[@EverestMystery]

Unfortunately, any photo of that nature won't make it out there.... Thank you for watching!

[@troruaz]

I'm new to your channel and the relative renewed interest in this story. I just read Synott's recent "Third Pole" book and it was great! I'm in a weird spot though because this being youtube, as soon as you watch a video for this topic, a whole slew of other vids show up in the "recommendations" section. As you might guess, a collection of vids from Michael Tracy show up and dude seems pretty convinced that the '99 expedition was sloppy, poorly documented, mishandled, chock full of knuckleheads and a facade for book deals and further embedding in the Chinese Communist Party. Obviously, I'm exaggerating, but I'm the pure unqualified laymen just trying to sort it all out. From my vantage, you seem to avoid mentioning the viewpoints of this guy and his ilk and him and people like him seem to relish taking bush-league potshots sequestered in their own channels. Is there a universe where we can actually put this platform to good use, get some folks on a zoom call, setup a roundtable for civil discussion/debate/idea-exchange? For what it's worth, I like your basic conclusion that "I think Mallory/Irvine *blank* but we just don't really know" (where *blank* can take on whatever gut feel you like)

[@EverestMystery]

Russ, thank you for your thoughts. Honestly, I don't really spend time thinking about what others say. It's a tough game to play in life. I've always taught my kids that. I am anything but perfect, and also very human...so, yes, I guess if I hear something unfairly critical I think it through for truths or falsehoods. All that I know regarding the handling of the body is my own viewpoint of it, I can't speak for the other five people there. I was there on May 16, not May 1 during the initial discovery. One thing I can say is that we definitely weren't trained in this endeavor. Could we have done better? Probably. Given what we/I knew at the time, I feel good about everything we did and how I handled things. Had I the opportunity to go back and have the experience all over again, I'd change very little other than to change out the finished roll of 35mm film and crank out another 36 exposures. I don't watch many Everest-related videos....I spend most of my time KZbin-ing on guitar teacher videos, techniques, new guitar reviews, things of that nature. In this video I'm not referring to any person. If I had a huge grudge about someone I'd just reach out and have a chat. It's all good...and, hey, as I also tell my kids, 'it's none of your business what other people think of you.' I endeavor to practice what I preach and treat even the so-called haters with decency and respect. When we all look back on this, it's just a mountain and two missing people....at the end of the day/end of this life, it does matter how one handles oneself in disagreements. I'm just practicing for the end of it all. Ya never know when it's going to happen...so, better to practice every time there's a chance. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts, I appreciate that you took the time to write. Godspeed to all the Mystery of Mallory & Irvine sleuths! Cheers!

[@EverestMystery]

Michael, it's pretty cool having you here. Man, I check my facts, that's for sure, lol! Cheers, glad to have you part of the discussion!

[@troruaz]

@@EverestMystery I appreciate your response as well. For the internet drama kinda stuff, I always put the heaviest weighting on the folks who do the work and go at it with some vigor. That is definitely you, your co-expeditioners and the crews and staff who made the efforts to climb, dig and strain for those truths. I'm kinda surprised the critical reaction to the '99 handling of Mallory's body. I remember reading the published articles back then and I felt like there was the best care and reverence taken to document the find. I hope one day somebody, *anyone* can find Irvine's body, whatever effects he might have on his person (yes the camera) whether that be in crevasse at 8k+ meters or some government warehouse. I always think of that last scene of Indiana Jones's first movie :-) Cheers to you and all.

[@Alanoffer]

As a child born in the fifties in England ,,Mallory was a name that I grew up with , I always imagined them climbing Everest wearing Harris tweed and plus fours ,

[@EverestMystery]

Insanely brave and monumental was his and Sandy's accomplishment, regardless of whether they made it to the summit. Thank you for watching!

[@sharipazyck-gv2dv]

Thom did you write a book? I would definitely be interested in reading it.

[@EverestMystery]

Working on it, I have done a deep dive this spring and deep in the pain cave as we speak! Thank you for asking - stay tuned :)

[@trypticon3293]

I love to believe that Mallory & Irvine actually reached the top. Not taking anything away from Sir Hillary and Norgay, but I still like to believe it!

[@dukecraig2402]

If it is ever proven that they reached the summit it doesn't change a thing about Hillary and Tenzig, in mountaineering it doesn't count if you don't come back down. Not my rules, they were around long before I was.

[@RangerHouston]

As morbid as the thought may be, i can’t think of a more serene resting place than the side of Mount Everest.

[@EverestMystery]

Indeed, pretty cool place.... Thank you for watching!

[@ABPhotography1]

The photo of his wife was missing wasn't it?

[@ralphbooger4756]

it was, also a letter he carried from his wife was missing, and he was going to leave both on the summit as a gesture to her.

[@MeBeTheDB]

Dear Mr. Pollard: I dig your frank recounting on the finding of Mr. Mallory ... Warts and all -- and you shared things I already should've known already about Mallory. Especially him carrying 2 Goggles -- doh(!) And it's right in the picture too. Keep at it, good Thom -- I believe this is the proverbial, 'Water back into the Well ...' and for that, BRAVO-! Be well, D.A.

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you D.A. I'm super glad you found my channel and really happy to have you here. I hope you enjoy the offerings and also look forward to seeing you around

[@MeBeTheDB]

@@EverestMystery Indeed, I do watch your videos about Mallory & Irvine and the others in the now and early days at Mt. Everest. Thanks to you, you give us a first person perspective about yourself and untold others being privileged to find themselves near or at the roof of the world. Stuff like this matters, amigo. D.A.

[@Evilsivle77]

Was the cloud they walked into actually a terrible blizzard?

[@EverestMystery]

I honestly don't think so....but it was indeed a bad spell of weather that might have been all that was necessary to ruin their chances of getting up the mountain any further.

[@joaorodrigues-wn8tf]

eu sou brasileiro, moro no estado parana --- sul brasil.. gosto muito dos teus videos... Eu gostaria muito que essa camera fotografica fosse encontrada ... - obrigado .. por voce estar nesta empreitada...

[@EverestMystery]

Gracias my friend!

[@davidk7654]

I enjoy your content and I am more interested in Irvine and Mallory

[@EverestMystery]

It's great having you here, thank you!

[@davidk7654]

@@EverestMystery your welcome

[@davidm8354]

Am I allowed to ask a personal question. When you looked at his face. What was going through your mind

[@EverestMystery]

It was overwhelming, beyond description, a pivotal event in my life. I believe I discuss this in another video but will cover this in more detail eventually. Thank you for watching!

[@jeni8210]

Love this first hand account! 👍... And love your pesticide comment at the end too.

[@EverestMystery]

So glad that you enjoyed it, thank you!

[@cetin1864]

Thom are you the cameraman in the famous founding of George Mallory video? If is it you, how was your and group's exciment? Founding this legend after all this years must be a dream come true.

[@EverestMystery]

Greetings, I filmed on the second visit to GLM, on 16 May, with Andy Politz. Otherwise, yes, I was the high altitude cameraman on the expedition. Cheers and thank you for visiting!

[@sharipazyck-gv2dv]

No one should go to find him.

[@aeromodeller1]

There is a thing in copyright law called "fair use". Brief quotes for review, criticism, scholarship and educational purposes are fair use.

[@EverestMystery]

Indeed, when this video got flagged I appealed to KZbin with the exact reply, based on a successful KZbinr's advice. He has won several of these, albeit his with live music performances.

[@SerafinaTorgul]

Publish the Book, PLEASE!!!!

[@EverestMystery]

You're too kind! Working on it now....lots of work ahead, but your words are super encouraging!

[@normanmallory2055]

I don’t care if any person comes across as a comedian or not , in fact it’s not important at all!! You do well on your interviews I’ve watched ! I wouldn’t waste a lot of time explaining it!! Go to the content and leave the rest for Bob Hope!

[@EverestMystery]

Norman, thank you! Some have said I look like George Carlin! So, perhaps I should swear more lol! Cheers, and thank you for your kind thoughts....I appreciate it. PS, I can't help but notice your last name. Are you related to GLM?

[@normanmallory2055]

@@EverestMystery You might want to leave the dirty jokes to George Carlin ! There is only one GC!

[@garysmith5641]

I really hope they never make a film , for the reason we all know too much about the subject to enjoy it , as an amateur historian im constantly disappointed in films on real Historical subjects , If they play them they must play them doer , the Edwardians rarely smile , just check out Photos of that time , they also must play them painfully polite , and with an almost God given right above any other nation , they believed this everyone in Britain believed this , you got to play him like dying for the nation is the greatest achievement a man can make . We all believed this too . We all were brainwashed with the Empire for years , and it was Stronger in the 1920s than anytime , the Words of Captain Laurence Oats ringing in their ears . This was very real , so real that even a kid born in the 60s like me believed it without an Empire. on the flip side the Church of England was not very effective in counselling grief and Spiritualists sprung up everywhere , there was more belief in this than god . the Art sweeping Europe was DaDa , whole towns were wiped out of men , the French were embroiled in grief , to this day its still a part of their culture , to miss these facts of these people out of a film would be like making an 80s film without a Sony Walkman

[@Planesail]

"Because it's there" was a typical, no-nonsense, get-a-grip comment from a man who did not tolerate fools gladly. I'm just re-reading two books - "Last Climb" by Breashears (a superb climber, photographer, writer) & Salkeld, and "The Second Death of George Mallory" by Messner. Mallory & Messner - what a team they would have made :-)

[@EverestMystery]

Ah, a British gentleman messaged me and said about the same about 'Because it's there'...it makes sense and makes me laugh! Like GLM was looking at the reporter and giving him a little dig....that has lasted nearly 100 years. The book 'Last Climb', I believe that is the one that has my photograph of GLM's boot at the end of it. Unfortunately my colleague David nor Audrey asked me about the watch. There is some incorrect reporting in the book (said the hands had all fallen off when we found it). That Messner book...wow, I should look it up. I'm reading Camp Six by Frank Smythe, about the 1933 British Everest expedition. Enjoy!