Mammoth lighting grow light test and review

[@MIGROLIGHT]

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[@express375]

A credible source for an honest review, always interesting.

[@TroyWatsonYEG]

Great review Shane! Out of curiosity - wouldn't it be beneficial to lower the dimmer to lets say 60/70%'ish and get it a little bit closer... use it in a 4*4? Would efficiency not go up?

[@Des420]

It would be more efficient to buy a cheaper, smaller light that fit your space.

[@TroyWatsonYEG]

@@Des420 When searching for a light that has the highest PPFD/W cheapest probably isn't a part of that conversation. What you said has nothing to do with my statement.

[@Des420]

@@TroyWatsonYEG It's directly related as even Shane made the point about the light, cost and space it's designed/recommended for... But I guess you only validate it coming from him. I digress... When someone thinks buying an oversized, way overpowered, overpriced light for a space that is too small is a good idea... Then I can see why something like the common sense of buying a smaller, cheaper light that fits the space better would have nothing to do with your statement. Good luck with your trying to0 hard.

[@lashawnknowles2491]

I've thought of this so many times, I wanna try it but it's an expensive experiment. I fully understand why it could be better, better spread, par, less energy, and the ability to have extra power on hand for different strains needs

[@redshedllc9054]

@@Des420 burnnnnn hahaha take that, guy !

[@JD-re3cj]

Shane are micro moles good for the garden or should I call an expert

[@dutchdykefinger]

my grandpa used to set traps for them, then skin the ones he caught, and nailed the skin square on a wooden plank on 4 corners, until the plank was full and then he'd sell them off :) those mole skins went for like 4 bucks a piece back then. those were regulars though, micros probably go for a lot less though and yes, he was an old poacher, he used to catch eel too, spend half of his days home knitting fish pots/traps :') he hated musk rats even more than moles :) seriously though, i would love 800 umols in my backyard

[@blackbart99]

@@dutchdykefinger First go on a snipe hunt...then release the snipes in your garden and your micro mole problem will be behind you....Snipes luv them some micro moles...tasty lil' buggers.....

[@reneebaranoski9576]

Interesting review. We need to see what the slim from optic is about. Highest efficacy claim, let see what it can do.

[@chancewallace2258]

I literally live my slim600

[@greengold6705]

The best spectrum I have seen from my experience is the 3000k with added red. I have tried about spectrum so far.

[@downwithprohibition7364]

Dang that is a huge light. I found the controller idea pretty neat though. Cool review Shane thanks for sharing.

[@pattorregrossa9210]

Do you have to have the light topside to be efficient to growing? Or could you maybe light from the sidewalls of the tent or even diagonally down from the corners.. Any info is appreciated.

[@rchellson5238]

can we delve deeper into the UV spectrum and that benefit, please

[@dans8149]

First Thank you again for your work. I would ask is it possible to sometimes take a light like this and dim it down to 80/60 percent and test it in say a 4x4 and see what numbers you get. As sometimes you might run a light like that which is too much power for a 4x4 however dimmed down the efficiency goes up. Thanks

[@23lnp]

Hi shane, just curious what you’d recommend please. Ive got a 2m x 2m tent and was looking at the lumatek 600w pro but its says its suited to 1.5m x 1.5m. Could i still use this or is there a better alternative ?

[@Doppelrocking]

Could you share what that small light sensor is that you used in this video? It looks pretty compact / bluetooth, I could use that in the field. Thanks!

[@reneebaranoski9576]

Almost bought one of these. I was debating between this and The hlg growers choice roi. but then I decided to splurge and get what I considered to be the top model on the market the optic 600 slim h. Seeing that this model and the Arden are the only two with the new top of the line 301 h Samsung chips in it, that I know of, I figured had to go with the top efficacy. I thought about waiting for your 2019 best of review show but I could not wait. hopefully this KZbin channel has educated me sufficiently to have purchased the best light for me. I think it has and I thank you for your help.

[@reneebaranoski9576]

@nick hache your no way evidence is super convincing.

[@BigFarm_ah365]

That is 100% the Philizon 800w light. You can buy it from Philizon. com for between $510-529 USD. I had asked you to take a look at these, Shane, but now I guess you have. They offer volume pricing on these as well, how much did you say Mammoth is charging?

[@CoPaVolvo]

lets see what the response is.

[@FinehomesofNewHampshire]

Add $200 and international fees for shipping....another fee for aluminum....30%. Then add 50% markup for business. It should be $1100 for fair business but not the case.

[@BigFarm_ah365]

@@FinehomesofNewHampshire hey man, I run all HLG LEDs assembled by me and I understand how business USED to work, but I'm not giving some company $1500 so they can pay Philizon $500 to drop ship it on my doorstep.

[@FinehomesofNewHampshire]

@@BigFarm_ah365 Totally dont blame you bub.

[@jacobbudde7468]

Which ones better this one or gavita?

[@Des420]

The light is bowing the support bar!

[@pacoflaco4022]

Migro what's your thoughts on the optic slim 600h

[@hassle4me2]

Hi Shane. What is the light spectrum app on your phone?

[@redshedllc9054]

Optic slim 650 s is hands down the best grow light.out there . The Master controller and.sunride n sunset effect is incredible

[@CouchCommander5000]

What is that meter and app you are using to test the spectrum?

[@Des420]

Apogee MQ500 I believe? No idea on the app.

[@CouchCommander5000]

@@Des420 the spectrum meter was something else. The mq is for par

[@shane6845]

My light still crushes this light on spectrum . And I agree with those who said these things are still far too overpriced. Anyhoo another thumbs up from me! :D

[@MrOafer3797]

Shane what light is that ?

[@henrywells6223]

I would love to see a test of Pacific Light Concepts, led grow strips. I'm thinking of buying ten

[@rse62965]

Henry, the Photoboost Strips are all that and more! I just harvested 991g under 640w...I'll hit 2g/watt next run. $800 for 640w

[@igormarinkovic1531]

you can find these on alibaba or aliexpress for 500-700$..... they are still overpricing this design....

[@greengold6705]

The Alibaba lights work pretty dam good

[@igormarinkovic1531]

@nick hache Rolex is kinda way more complicated than led module because its a WATCH ...

[@semaphor3]

nick hache these lights are the knock offs, they’re rebranded Nalite’s. I owned two, horrible manufacturing, ultra cheap components inside.

[@semaphor3]

Also he mentions why don't they mount the drivers separately, I'll tell you why, because they are cheap crappy 80 W drivers which burn out, I had two burn out in a space of 2 months.

[@semaphor3]

The lights are pretty, but lipstick on a pig is still pig.

[@rahkielsingh6028]

which is better, mammoth vs phototek?

[@blessingslawn]

Where is the ES180 review?

[@christiancalderon5584]

I'm sayinggg been almost 2 months

[@colby3093]

You should test the optic led Slim600H, I’m curious how it would compare. They use the new Samsung LM301H diodes also new Cree red and blue diodes, the lights suppose to be 3.0 umols/j

[@kid7805]

Can you do a review on the maxibright daylight 300w full spectrum light, hardly any content on them

[@TriStateTrichomes]

Need to test out @mammothlighting new model that just released this year. 8 bar 800w, with improved spectrum range to hit more on the far ends. #mammothlighing

[@miccke13]

Hi, to calculate the PPFD/W I should take 1.5x1.5=2.25 then 2.25x747= 1680.75 and last 1680.75/800= 2.1. It should be 2.12 according to the video, what am I getting wrong?

[@royceratliff7220]

Have you ever tested the kind x 750 they claim to have a better light spectrum

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Hi, They have never contacted us regarding testing. Thanks.

[@greengold6705]

Migro you should do a video on just spectrum. The 3000k with added red is the best spectrum I believe.

[@gikynel1]

Hello. Can you use a 1000w hps bulb on a 600w electric ballast?

[@timeisart1320]

samsung leds?

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Yep, LM301B's

[@chancewallace2258]

Optic slim 600h check it out

[@leesufc1984]

Can you review the maxibright daylight 660w LED please ?

[@bobnewhart4318]

Are the drivers used in this device protected against frequency interference?

[@LightLadd]

The main problem with this type of 'bar' light is that they simply don't have the ability to penetrate the mid and lower parts of the plant canopy like the 'lense' style lights can. I would be curious to see what kind of penetration this light has compared to the Migro?.... My bet is on the Migro.

[@bobnewhart4318]

What are some lense type of LEDS?

[@LightLadd]

@Bob Newhart- There are quite a few on the market today, the Optic 4,6 & 8, the Black Diamond; perfect sun, Nukeheads is coming out with a lensed light, and of course there's the Migro with its giant cyclops lense. This was and still is a great show! kzbin.info/www/bejne/haSzXpeCnNqCg80

[@TheMisanthrope.]

Many thanks for another great review Shane. On their website I noticed some fixtures advertising "Replaces Fluence this" and "Replaces Fluence that" and I was just wondering if you've heard Osram were no longer making horticultural LED's or is this just Mammoth trying to out-muscle their nearest competitor? Definitely looks like Fluence's lights...

[@MIGROLIGHT]

They are just trying to capture the traffic searching for Fluence.

[@FinehomesofNewHampshire]

Not fluence lights either. Just a mold they adopted early on from factory.

[@solidus784]

I really think this style of fitting is future for indoor growing very even spread of light across the whole canopy. I think something like this will be my next DIY build if I can source suitable stuff.

[@PeterKKraus]

Alibaba. Kingbrite LM103H strip with 660nm Epistars. $59 per strip with shipping. You could do a 40 x 40 inch , 40 x 20 inch, 36 x 20 inch or 20 x 20 inch

[@solidus784]

@@PeterKKraus thanks man you can't beat kingbrite lol love those guys

[@PeterKKraus]

@@solidus784 Unfortunately, it's $40 shipping for 1, they might be able to go lower when buying multiple strips and ask for alibaba express shipping.

[@solidus784]

@@PeterKKraus ya they combine shipping I've gotten cobs and heatsinks delivered for similar money

[@magnumopus9631]

@@PeterKKraus epistar are really poor leds,samsung,cree,epistar will hit there L90 fast, umoles will drop ,thats 100%

[@philippsuarez284]

Can u test the mammoth uv fold led

[@Switchbackrider]

Hey Shane, Have you/can you do a test on the HLG 550rspec

[@dtbone6]

love this guy... but a $1.500 light is to rich for most.

[@ВанДаркхолменко]

i am too

[@PeterKKraus]

Too rich.

[@ShnozzleShabizzle]

Its a 10+ year light, but you can buy bulbs every year for ten yrs and you'll spend more on bulbs and electricity you won't save. Up to you.

[@PeterKKraus]

@@ShnozzleShabizzle It's more like a 3 year light because 3 years from now something more efficient, with a better color spectrum will be out.

[@dtbone6]

@@ShnozzleShabizzle no LED will last ten freaken years..

[@christiancalderon5584]

Why do you tease us with supposedly making the Electric Sky review yet it's been like almost 2 months????

[@charlie123866]

i think chilLED are using high cri of 93 instead of booster leds..the cree cobs and other cobs like citizen can be driven at 350ma and 700ma creating high efficiency but they need fans or big heatsinks but still produce the best plants in my garden.i run 10 citizen cobs at 350ma to 700ma..a good mix would be 3000k 80cri cobs overlapped with 2700k or 3000k 93 cri cobs for deeper reds.

[@charlie123866]

like 3 x 3000k 80cri, and 2 x 2700 or 3000k 93cri, in a row..

[@Gameneuling2]

Nice video as always and greetings from Germany

[@nonamevids5105]

Can you review parfact works led lights they have both free and regular cob Led lights there on Amazon

[@Onelovej]

LED would be perfect in my 5 x 5 it’s hard to light up the corners with 600 W with single any bulbs

[@FinehomesofNewHampshire]

Those days are almost gone. Single light options arent efficient. 🙏

[@Onelovej]

Hidden Harvest Grow Lights 315w cmh is very efficient for 3x3 coverage

[@FinehomesofNewHampshire]

@@Onelovej 🙏👏👏👏🤘😊

[@tommygarcia1034]

Awesome video big fan of your channel very educational but I’m curious why you never made a review on the mars Hydro TS600 very powerful little light I don’t see no content in your channel

[@VintageVelocity99]

please test the slim600h from optic led

[@pathfinder49953]

Nice Job is Migro going to be carrying these lights ?

[@reneebaranoski9576]

No they are not. He reviews lights, but only sells his own.

[@xxgshokxxhd]

Please Test the slim 600H from Optic LED

[@wermy76]

Yes their company seems to be proscrastinating with a true test

[@xxgshokxxhd]

I cant choose wich is better selfbuild or from a good Company

[@chancewallace2258]

@@wermy76 they put one out like 3 days ago on their new youtube channel I own the slim it's no joke

[@MrOafer3797]

Chance Wallace the slim 600H along with every other light from Optic LED are from Alibaba .. if you don’t believe me google search “sunplus led alibaba”. sunplusled.m.en.alibaba.com

[@wermy76]

@@chancewallace2258 yea but was it a true 64 point ppfd test in 4x4. Or was it just giving a reading at a certain height? 2 completely different tests

[@srpuffs7646]

Where the link to this . need new light for 8x4x8

[@aj301292]

Can it be run with not all the bars installed?

[@sloppyjoe5357]

Yep each bar has it's own driver

[@garysipes8553]

Awesome light would love to have that one

[@HAWAII-uh7sc]

what it pulling from the wall ?

[@sloppyjoe5357]

800w

[@volvo09]

Good review Shane!

[@Notalkgrower]

Always the best information what do you do with all the lights company's send you I want to grow with one of your migro lights so bad can you help

[@NorCalDA9]

They look very similar to the Nalite 2H series. They use the same controllers

[@MrOafer3797]

Andrew Benavidez yes sir mammoth buys directly from nalite then slaps their name on it

[@TW-fx2jx]

sweet light... thanks for review amigo

[@PeterKKraus]

If I use my microwave while that's on... lights out! Lol Grower's Choice is coming out with a 420 watt version of the E680 this year.

[@BigFarm_ah365]

Don't grow in your kitchen🤪

[@robertoisidori7763]

Hi, are you sure? Five mounts ago i asked for, in the future, a small version of E680, they answer to me who will be impossible cause so expensive cost....

[@PeterKKraus]

@@robertoisidori7763 On their website they show an E420 "Coming Soon" It will probably be for a 3 foot by 3 foot tent. 4 max.

[@kickass-eu1dh]

@@PeterKKraus CMH oder LED?? price wise too!?

[@robertoisidori7763]

@@PeterKKraus I watched, ty.

[@benjibowser5181]

Lumatek 600 led please

[@johnroehsler6440]

Another excellent review !

[@ramo4205]

Please try to review any of the chilean brands of led lights, such as apollo evolution 16 + or blackcob f600 plz review latam lights, delight.cl

[@alienman2939]

Awesome review!

[@rickfields6199]

Wow medic grow fold 8 all day long

[@jazzypurple297]

Nice light got see the price

[@MrSpeedlife]

600 watts consumption should be the limit of what modern LED lights are allowed to consume, 800 watts 1000 watts is far too much

[@chancewallace2258]

Agreed

[@davidgdraper6269]

Why. There are loads of people still growing with 1000W HID bulbs. I use multiple COB rails. While heavy, they throw massive penetrating light throughout mist of the plant. If people want less than 600W units, there are lenta out there. Why put limits on anything. Let the end user/market decide. Many swear by HID/HPS/MH Bud if they can’t get stuff grown in sunlight.

[@MrSpeedlife]

@@davidgdraper6269 if you want to grow without limit grow outdoor in the sun I say there should be a limit of 600 watts for indoor pro lamp because electricity has to be generated first

[@kylemason2270]

VANQUISH MANTIS next!!!

[@malcolmchannel4264]

Nice looking light could do with one of them

[@JA-wp6cj]

50lbs! I guess you can't install these on light rails eh

[@BigFarm_ah365]

Hey Shane, this light looks a lot like a light made by Philizon, a Chinese company that made Optic rip-offs. They have expanded to make a few different fixtures types. I can't help but wonder if this is a rebranding of the Philizon, it is certainly cheap enough on their site, like $5-600 with volume discounts. Take a look at Philizon.com and tell me that isn't the same light.

[@MIGROLIGHT]

It's not the same as the Phlizon but its a good light :)

[@sloppyjoe5357]

That phlizon has 5603 chips not the 301

[@BigFarm_ah365]

@@sloppyjoe5357 look again, you can get 5630(don't),301b, 561c(not sure which fixture) or Cree cob. Many stolen designs to choose from!

[@BigFarm_ah365]

@@MIGROLIGHT if that's not a PH-B10 then this could mean only one thing! Those sneaky bastards broke into the Shopify store and stole Mammoth's idea.

[@sloppyjoe5357]

@@BigFarm_ah365 I actually just ordered the mammoth 10 bar and I'm going to retrofit 2 of there uv bars in between the 301 rails.. maybe just use some metal wire and clamps

[@jackluo9078]

we offer high quality and cost-effective led grow light

[@ShiinjiWoW]

looks like rebranded chinesium

[@brianpablo331]

These gotta be like €5000

[@PeterKKraus]

€1450

[@diaznutz5054]

Lmao, you get what you pay for. You wanna grow pro, these type of lights are the way to go. You wanna grow in your parent's basement then Alibaba/Amazon Chinese lights with Chinese quality/ customer service is more up your alley. Just don't be shocked when the lights go to sh.. and you can't even get so much as a "herro?" on the other end of the phone line.

[@veldalong2653]

Why do you have to smack your lips all the time?

[@dlaw5562]

Cocaine????

[@Luxmetr]

Интересно, это здесь Горшкоф спиздил идею своего Прометея? (Не пытайтесь переводить, это для русских).

[@charlie123866]

i havent seen anyone demonstrate the red photon boosts or blue..so for me they are a gimmick..if samsung designed a horticulture chip then thats good enough for me.which they have 301h..im still running my lm561c lights with fantastic results..

[@magnumopus9631]

theres lots info on the reds boosters,go to his light classes with the university video,they talk about the reds and what they do,

[@charlie123866]

@@magnumopus9631 i know what they say they do but i want to see them in action..a demonstration..like shane has with the grow mediums..talk is cheap.

[@Somehiguy]

I was going to Say exactly what Fish Sandwich said. I use the lm561c also, and am completely happy with just that. but I recognize from Greengenes Garden, that there is a difference when using the reds

[@BigFarm_ah365]

It's going to be strain dependant. I would definitely say to add 630nm and 660nm, if you are going to add 730nm it should be on it's own driver/channel, because it can certainly cause stretching. I use 730nm just for an initiator for 30 minutes a day, 15 min before, til 15 min after lights out. These are almost all new strains right now so I don't know how much it's helping, but I had the lights and the don't use much power. UV is the next big one, but again, it should be on it's own driver/channel and used at ripening. UV B is dangerous, so you won't see it built into lights, but it is/will be used. You need to have a separate switch by the door for the UV B, can't be in there when it's on.

[@BigFarm_ah365]

Samsung makes a light engine now, 1,2 and 4ft horticultural strips, they include the red diodes.

[@semaphor3]

Rebranded NaLite garbage

[@-igg1-912]

Lol 20bars to replace one 600W sodium lamp😂

[@-igg1-912]

@delosombres Again ..We talkin about 1 VS 10 ..Capish🤣🤣🤣

[@magnumopus9631]

@delosombres led light photons dont bounce as good as hid,i have led,and cmh,led is mostly a focused light thats why ya see 90,and 120 angles now,try spread the light out,i bought 4 units of cobbs to light only corners,cmh does most of tent

[@A87-w6x]

Подари мне БРО

[@ratetheplate3088]

Is it me or does it always look and sound like he’s mouth is dry and that he needs a bottle of water ?

[@dienovandale4299]

Look Shane , another fluence wannabe !