Man identifying as American Travis Timmerman found in Syria, says he was freed from prison

[@b21raider27]

He was treated well however he said Syrian men were tortured routinely, he could hear their screams.

[@mohammadaburrub]

of course because Asad regime are cowards. They are lions only o the defenseless Syrian people but this dude has the US behind him that is why

[@maestrofrags3436]

he is an agent

[@youtubevideo7086]

Do you think CIA man will tell the truth😂

[@kreuner11]

They probably knew mistreating an American would lead to severe consequences

[@banjosqueezebox]

I would have liked to hear from his own lips about the routine torture of Syrian men. I'm sure if he is on a "Christian pilgrimage" .... he would have mentioned that as one of the hard parts when he was asked.

[@MarleneWardynski]

He seems off not what you would expect from someone just released from prison after 7 months.

[@Omararabiaa]

That's a fact I smell something fishy

[@JTMaster]

He wasn't tortured since he was an American foreigner. They knew how we would respond if we learned he was tortured or killed there

[@007oskari]

​@@JTMasterYeah no. That's not the reason and that's not a reason. It would have been covered up. American citizens are tortured by regimes all around at this moment and nothing will be done. There are in minds of leaders "more important things" at least in their opinion.

[@007oskari]

​@@JTMasterdude seems like an agent of some sort. But maybe not. But American government wouldn't have gone on into some crazy rescue mission if he'd be missing some fingers and a leg

[@007oskari]

​@@JTMasterdude seems like an agent of some sort. But maybe not. But American government wouldn't have gone on into some crazy rescue mission if he'd be missing some fingers and a leg

[@mickeyblue8]

I’m Australian and went to Syria last year from Lebanon’s land border. On my way to Damascus I had to stop at literally 10 army check points and I’ve never been so welcomed. They were shaking my hands and saying welcome in broken English. Who knows where they are now. They only earned $28 a month, most of them there by conscription

[@luisnieves8242]

too bad they let you go.

[@mickeyblue8]

@ cheers mate

[@dylanwalker7624]

Someday Hollywood will make a movie about him, but it is unlikely to be accurate.

[@Eloise-j8s]

Ya just like Argo by Ben Affleck, laughably inaccurate.

[@Ronald-Gay-Rump]

@@Eloise-j8s how was Argo inaccurate? Please elaborate.

[@saamwork8233]

why can make a movie for every prisoner that was in Assad's jails.

[@Tmb1112]

"I was going on a pilgrimage to Damascus." "Did no one tell you... that that was a bad idea?" lmao what was he thinking? Wild idea

[@ラーメンのボス]

Supporting the gay agenda is asinine and also, a wild idea.

[@hangten1904]

He crossed the border illegally.

[@maestrofrags3436]

hes a spy dont buy this bs

[@BenSea11]

American ignorance. That’s what this is

[@Zeromodulation]

@@maestrofrags3436think a few moves ahead and you won’t think this 😂. Why would the cia reveal a spy? Why would they name his name? Why would he relate that he was treated well by Assads regime? You are completely and utterly smooth brained; 😂 “CIA Spy” while all the while real CIA spies caught would be total black operations. What a fool 😂

[@akeel_muzafar]

I, as a young man from Syria, pray and hope that the American people will stand with us and address the International Criminal Court to try Bashar al-Assad and his family and to put pressure on Russia to hand them over to justice.

[@peterdebrie]

You don’t really expect that Russia is going to cooperate with that request? You think the USA is going to lock Trump up? Also not gonna happen. The guy is an idiot to go on vacation or spiritual nonsens to a country like Syria. You can lock up 50% of the Middle East if you going to look for justice.

[@1علي313]

The colonizer did not and will not build your house, America agreed that Israel would strike Damascus

[@1علي313]

America agreed that Israel would strike Damascus.

[@elanmorintedronai9562]

Sure thing, bub. After the black flags of the "liberators," stop flying around Christians. Plus, do explain me a jihady democracy 😂

[@MagdasGascar]

U.s.a does not recognize ICC

[@whatmatters683]

I'm somewhat sceptical about this guy. Did anyone hear about him before? Any good journalist would be checking out this story.

[@texasgermancowgirl]

Yes we have. He’s one of those one/off evangelical Christians who try to convert people in their own weird quest.

[@maestrofrags3436]

@@texasgermancowgirl if hes an evangilical hes probably a mossad agent

[@Angel-ts8rc]

He has friends and family that have been looking for him.

[@rikimontana-j3m]

keep your sceptical for yourself. sceptical generation

[@rockymountainlockpicker9606]

That’s crazy. Hope he makes it home

[@drewdrewson1384]

its propoganda for al qaeda lmao

[@DovZeev]

I prefer him to be thoroughly investigated before he's even put on a plane here.

[@hannahahlepoetry]

Why did he cross into Syria illegally? If he was on pilgrimage why did he not enter the legit way. Makes no sense. And why was he just not deported back to America? Weird.

[@Crimespeaksuk]

Cause he’s liar

[@ahmedbounce3053]

@@Crimespeaksuk It doesn't matter if he didn't commit any crime

[@VulpesInculta-h2b]

If he crossed "legally" he would have been kidnapped by one of the many ter groups. Country S guards did it all the time (you'd know if you stopped consuming "mainstream" media for more than two seconds), giving info on civilians to the many groups they backed, holding them for ransom or as leverage.

[@margaretewallner2169]

Middle East, dear!

[@PaPaMeow88]

Dia wartawan, jurnalis

[@kirishima638]

He’s not all there

[@VulpesInculta-h2b]

Ofc not, he's been in prison for over 7 months having had no contact with anyone he knew only to suddenly get released. It's called being in a state of "shock" and is a very real and common phenomenon.

[@kirishima638]

@ I mean he doesn’t seem to care

[@gwine9087]

He looks to be in good shape for someone kept for 7 months.

[@williamwilson6499]

He said he wasn’t mistreated, other than not being able to use a bathroom when he wanted.

[@Crimespeaksuk]

Even reporters laughing at him

[@gwine9087]

@@PrashasyaGautam What kind of prisoner was he that they kept him for 7 months?

[@bizzz.R]

Talk about optimistic... This guy is next level.

[@7hroomy]

He's got Jesus and filled with the Holy Spirit I'm guessing so yeah he's chilling bro 😎

[@charlenerathgeb8217]

OMG “I was only let out to use the bathroom 3 times a day….that was quite the hardship”. This guy listened to the torture of so many, and he had the nerve to say that.

[@ahmedsalah7474]

I think he is telling that from his point of view and his lifestyle so he is talking about himself that it's a hardship for him but for other prisoners it was something else.

[@charlenerathgeb8217]

@ true, @ahmedsalah7474 but I still find it….annoying? given what we know?

[@PeterMoss54321]

I read about him in a BBC article that came out shortly after he was released. That three times to the bathroom a day really stood out to me as being terrible. Why not give the prisoners a bucket? They could use it whenever they needed to, and dump it on their three daily visits to the bathroom.

[@Mamomain]

He was literally answering the reporters question. “What was the hardest part?”

[@hackcult3738]

He was being honest bro.

[@greybushMEproductions]

this man was a well trained operative. It's so obvious. Their ability to remain calm is really amazing. Very powerful minds.

[@TheTeaArtist]

He died?

[@mommom3172]

When was this reported?

[@lisaclark1181]

Not yet. The point the gentleman was making is if he is CIA they will off him before other US intelligence can get to him.

[@greybushMEproductions]

@@mommom3172 Apparently I reported fake news. Can't believe what you read online these days. My bad.

[@greybushMEproductions]

@@lisaclark1181 That's reasonably interpretation, But I actually just read fake news. I don't believe he was there on a holy journey. I don't buy that for a second. Why would he be imprisoned for a holy journey. There is more to this story than we are being told

[@planewire2153]

That dude is like a moth going to a flame, low key I like his capybara energy

[@lisaclark1181]

😂🤣

[@ufc5148]

What a gentle soul 😢

[@dancer20617]

Poor man. He's tripping

[@matthewvanderlinde3415]

For real

[@jasoneaton9477]

He's playing the victim

[@VulpesInculta-h2b]

He's in a state called "shock". It's a very real phenomenon. Crazy that no one has heard of it before.

[@thomasthomasphilp4393]

Syria is a great part of Christian history

[@denised.5598]

"There wasn't a hard part..." "It wasn't too bad, I was never beaten..." "The only really bad part was that I couldn't go to the bathroom when I wanted to..." Any normal person who broke the law and was serving their prison sentence would be relieved, thankful, or even possibly overjoyed to be free after seven months behind bars, but this guy seems like he could really care less. Maybe it was the prison conditioning. Very odd.

[@SillyGillyyy]

We are Syrians living In turkey. My dad had a brother When he was younger but they Took him to the prison cause he was also protesting against assad's rule. He said they never saw him again. His family doesn't even know if he's dead or alive. Nobody does. We don't know where he is. All we know that he was living in hell. It's been 13 years since my dad saw him. Lemme describe the prisons to you. Toddlers were also imprisoned in syria.although Not tormented Like the adults or teens. Blood. There was a lot of blood. There were drawings In the rooms and Somebody even drew A fan on the ceiling. The rooms were small. Very small. And the Prisons were still somehow crowded. There was one room that Had Passports of every person and their clothes On the floor. The Prison building was never cleaned and there were spiderwebs everywhere, including In the Prisoners room. Most prisoners probably starved. The rooms were empty. Nothing. No toilet. No bed. Nothing. It was just a small room filled with atleast 5-6 people with nothing. The smell was horrible. It was also cold. There weren't any heaters.there were even some bloody ropes. (Suicide or execution) This was how My Aunt who Was once in the Prison described it.

[@hammurabii.3173]

He was treated incredibly well compared to his Syrian counterparts who were regularly tortured. I could imagine that he felt that he had no real grounds to complain compared to his fellow inmates.

[@danielpalmer643]

People are so strange. Maybe he'll find a nice monastery somewhere.

[@sweeteverglades8381]

He’s not ok!!! mentally unwell hope he gets the help he needs

[@danielpalmer643]

@@sweeteverglades8381 I disagree. I think he is very religious and is exploring a life of religious contemplation. I disagree with those who accuse him of espionage. He is a Christian mystic. The Christian history of Syria is deep. May God bless all the people of Syria! God is great and merciful.

[@Muricans1776]

Something about this is just so strange.Odd all around.

[@pauls-finds]

His elevator does not go to top floor...😂

[@atom_zoom8672]

bro is majestic.

[@background0001]

bro your majestic

[@Robert_Douglass]

Is that a reference to "Majestic 12"?

[@Ronald-Gay-Rump]

He sorta looks like the European version of Jesus.

[@faizalbinibrahim6871]

😂😂😂

[@tysoncodes]

Totally not pretending to be a inept civilian while captured working for the cia.

[@joshuab2437]

He's just a young man seeking a spiritual identity and visiting holy sites.

[@LaJuera25]

I didn’t want to be the first to say it! 😂

[@alexanderr6000]

sure bro, cia can manipulate climate and use radio to manipulate people’s mind, but somehow they found necessary to send someone to investigate in person, sure

[@1علي313]

And enters illegally into a country like Syria 😂 ​@@joshuab2437

[@Wegivesp]

Why didn't they take him home? Because the interview was important.

[@dianelundrigan631]

Something smells off about this.

[@andrewpirr]

MSM: "he barely survived in Assad's infamous torture prison." Actual guy: "it wasn't bad."

[@andrewpirr]

@ZaydAliKhan why should I believe your assertion?

[@Nazir-t3x]

He was well treated because of many reasons 1. HE WAS A CHRISTIAN. 2. HE WAS AN AMERICAN. 3. THEY DIDN'T FIND A PROOF AGAINST HIM. ASSAD AND HIS RUSSIAN AND IRANIAN GANGS WAGED WAR AGAINST ISLAM AND MUSLIMS. OTHERS WERE NOT THEIR TARGET. HE IS TRAUMATIZED THOUGH.

[@Skiis44]

It wasn’t bad compared to others treatment.No torture or beatings, same confinement conditions.

[@BCAT3089]

@ZaydAliKhan as if you're to believe his responses. who talks with almost no apathy or emotion.

[@Killerbee4712]

Literally every Syrian: Assad prisons are awful Media: Assad prisons are awful This one guy: It wasnt so bad Your conclusion: IT ACTUALLY WASNT SO BAD THE MEDIA IS LYING!!!!

[@peterrauth3387]

How much dope do you have to smoke, to accidentally wander into a war zone?

[@Elena-fe3os]

Was no war zone.. Assad kept power with help of russian butchers, through fear.. The rebels were contained to North West. He crossed from Lebanon. Some are naive to believe that being peaceful themselves, or religious, will make others to act as humans.. He was lucky. Hope Austin will be found alive.

[@tonyinhbolero4815]

😂😂😂😂

[@peterrauth3387]

@@Elena-fe3os I offer you the Swabian salute for the complete ineptitude of your reply. He wandered into a country that was in the midst of a civil war, which by any reasonable definition can be called a war zone.

[@momentcrappy]

How many billionaires do have to listen to until you understand they are full of ego?

[@Elena-fe3os]

@peterrauth3387 keep it for yourself. Midst? for years, was stalemate. The government forces took back almost everything lost before, the North, North West was active, Turkey was involved. 2023 was dominated by protests against the increased prices .

[@jessiahstalbirds.j.794]

Why didn't the American government go and help get the man out of Syria?

[@catdooley4616]

Because this is probably a bs story, or they sent him there in the first place.

[@YazanZam-j3f]

I think Bashar al-Assad wanted to negotiate, such as lifting some sanctions on him

[@petepjunior]

Looks like he doesn't want to go home just yet 😂

[@magdelinem6962]

Notice that me too😂 America naah..

[@Mr.California.....2042]

​@@magdelinem6962what do you mean bro you never been such places I'm living in the northern badyia it's true in Jordan but it's suffer of lack of circumstances and living in America is my biggest dream I wish that I born there 😢

[@MannoDon]

Bro wants to finish his pilgrimage 😂

[@sweeteverglades8381]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@germel1155]

😂😂❤

[@NorceCodine]

Why did the CBS reporter not drive him away to the CBS headquarters in Damascus? She interviewed him and then left him there? That woman should be held responsible if something happens to him.

[@JoeMknz]

This guy looks so CIA operative tryin hard to blend in,yeah he was on a pilgrimage right😂

[@Elena-fe3os]

Do you think he was not questioned or checked ? Have you seen the torture devices in that prison? He was lucky.. hope Austin will be found too, but, becaus of his past military career, I doubt it

[@carramboardlover938]

Cia agent absolutely

[@jemairabeb]

rather a Mossad agent

[@manaooooOOOO]

i mean, if he is a CIA agent i would think giving an interview would be completely against protocol, no? like this isn't the dumbest thing an american christian has done abroad, just look at the guy killed at sentinel island a few years ago

[@HussKhartoum]

Definitely, if he's a nutcase he's a very smart one I say

[@carole2077]

Why did the reporter not take him with her?

[@ferhanakhan5706]

He said he doesn't want to go back to America in another video I saw. One of the Syrians go the American embassy on the phone for him to speak to and he seemed uninterested. That's when he said he doesn't want to leave just yet

[@spervuurproduksies]

So, all you need to do, is to "identify" as an American? 😂 OK, I think I am suddenly also identifying. Can I come over for an extended stay?

[@Nexxcraft]

1:35 he tries so hard not to smile 😂

[@hangten1904]

He was in jail for crossing the border illegally.

[@TheTeach56]

Christian Pilgrimage? Where to exactly? Why didn't she ask? His story doesn't sound strange to her? Why not?

[@Elena-fe3os]

There are Christians in Syria. Crossed from Lebanon. Some do believe in spreading religion and God's word.

[@garyspence2128]

Religious people used to do that all the time back in the day. Mormons in college still do something like that before they go into the work force, I believe.

[@Carol-Lyne]

Damascus. It literally says in the Bible ,"come to Damascus" lol

[@bradweir]

​@@Carol-Lyne Should end with ... " If you're stupid " .

[@danimotherofchickens479]

To Damascus he said in another interview

[@evelynsarah2801]

Amen 🙏🏻

[@hikeclimbsail]

I would not be surprised if he wants to continue his spiritual journey and not go home just yet.

[@lisaclark1181]

🙄...right?!!!?

[@GolnazJamsheed]

Free food and a place to sleep-sounds like every runaway hippie’s dream, lol.

[@azelo7952]

He’s a wanderer on a spiritual journey maybe tracing back the journey of St. Paul or St Peter who travelled from Lebanon to Syria. Leave the man alone, not all of us dream of a house in suburbia, commute to work an mown the lawn on the weekend

[@ghfran.1999]

The Syrian army was carrying out random arrests in many neighborhoods😓😢

[@buraale134]

Exactly cause they paranoid

[@SMOOVKILL1]

Dont just walk into places at certain times. You need to contact people or find fixers to get you in. Good to see hes ok.

[@lesujetdujour2877]

Was he a spy so they arrested him ? Because I saw many youtubers videos of their trip in Damascus and they were not arrested...If he was a spy and entered illegally in Syria or planning bad thing in Syria, it was good he was arrested.

[@lisaclark1181]

It's hard for me to muster great sympathies for Americans who are imprisoned because of "spiritual journeys" that then find themselves in hostile countries. I'm glad for his family and friends have him back. Maybe now they'll help him get the mental health treatment he needs!

[@DallasTexas8888]

He looks thin and almost as if he doesn’t want to share everything with the first person interviewing him. He doesn’t have a phone and can’t confirm the news just yet. He’s being very cautious. The men in the room could be “Assad spies” to him. He doesn’t know who to trust just yet.

[@michaelm4939]

Somethings off about this guy.

[@boardcertifiable]

Yeah, anyone would be off if they were in a war zone. :/

[@BCAT3089]

@@boardcertifiable you don't understand what this person is referring to then. those are fear responses. even at the end he said... " Im here"

[@jemairabeb]

smth is off about all the Mossad agents

[@bbiancini]

CIA

[@johnviscedo]

He’s def an undercover agent, the CIA likes to use overly religious and devout people as operatives, they’re less likely to bend their views.

[@j936-n6n]

Jesus:"I'm going to fast in the desert for 40 days" Travis Timmerman: "Hold my beer"

[@Omararabiaa]

Lol

[@johnviscedo]

So he willingly broke the law and illegally entered a country and was held accountable for his actions? Maybe more countries should also imprison people who enter their territory illegally!

[@Christobanistan]

A REPORTER had no idea what was going on for that long? Nah, something is going on.

[@khldounibrahim3488]

Well you can't fake it he said treated " well"

[@clownman-mq4ek]

What was he doing there!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@geemorales3555]

Traveler?

[@boardcertifiable]

I heard he was on a spiritual journey.

[@Elena-fe3os]

Some ar enaive thinking that being peaceful and religious will make monsters to behave as humans

[@aliancemd]

He went on a “pilgrimage”, as he said

[@mikealkarout9555]

A American sneaks in Syria they probably thought he was some kind of spy.

[@jamesmckenzie1633]

God is good 👍 🙏

[@diligentmindz]

What are the names of the prison guards officials and those managing them? Let’s hear their names smeared all over your news!

[@aumarigan]

The thumbnail looks like a skit from SNL.

[@thoughtsofwisdom1223]

THIS MAN SOUNDS SUSPECT TO ME I THINK ALL THIS IS STAGED

[@johnrusselman1364]

He thought he was in Katmandu...

[@narayaniji8699]

His psychology is off. People get ptsd, thir mind can fracture off, they dissociate in order to survive.

[@EternalKhann]

This man is a walking personification on why men live shorter lives. 😂

[@monamohammad3494]

😂😂 A lot of ego and so little jugement !

[@paw-paw-e5f]

Its Christian Bale with a broken back

[@garyspence2128]

He didn't even have to make that rope climb to escape. Has quite a story to tell if, and or when, he returns. He might not want to trade one dictator for another, so he may stay and tour Syria now!

[@nicolesarmiento3294]

pilgrimage from lebanon, he wasn't used as diplomatic leverage, he was treated well, nobody outside syria knew he was there... hmm

[@welbyroberto6581]

Now, how to find the prison guards ??

[@NinjaOrchids]

So, Travis, tell me all about yourself! Travis: its classified! 😅 Either way, someone is going to continue on to Damascus, or get debriefed, or both

[@peterdebrie]

The guy is nuts to go on vacation or spiritual nonsens to a country like Syria.

[@gad7336]

He might be still afraid to speak out as his captures might still be near him

[@marioamayaflamenco]

A CIA pilgrimage?

[@bbiancini]

LOL

[@oussamaalaoui9121]

LMAO

[@Ronald-Gay-Rump]

Still a pilgrimage.

[@HazStrikesU]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@beautybalance7]

Exactly that! 😅😅😅

[@johnrusselman1364]

Travis, have you ever been in a Turkish prison??? Mommy is none to pleased Travis... she's crying for months thinking you're dead in Hungary and you turned up in the worst Syrian prison.... you think you are in midnight Express or something???

[@6EBEN9890]

Very few Americans use the world "whilst".

[@vmw4444]

Why was he in Syria? Syria is in perpetual wars. His family and friends should be happy for me it's shrugged shoulders.

[@Alhiyari01]

So could any one say that he or she announced missing Travis during his 8 months of absence in Syrian Regime jail?

[@teriscott685]

He was on a Christian pilgrimage,God bless him

[@AnythingJW]

why did he go to Syria?

[@XSchuauss]

Why oh why did you think of going there for pilgrimage? By the grace of God you are still alive🙏

[@AhmirNawaz]

something seems off about that young man

[@PaPaMeow88]

Hts not a terrorist

[@smokiedapoo2]

Dude went a long ways for a white castle burger!

[@JESUSAVES-n9i]

They know best not to mess with the USA 🇺🇸

[@MRMORGAN817]

Where is he now?

[@AzizAkbiyik]

1:57 "New fighters from India saved" Why are you lying? The Free Syrian National Army, supported by the Republic of Türkiye, saved him. You Americans can't live without lies!

[@gundarvarr1024]

CIA FOR SURE

[@DroidPADhome]

God loves 'em

[@mambaman9363]

There’s something odd about someone who just happens to have wandered into Syria. Normally you go through an immigration post and get turned back. He’s lucky to still be alive. But someone will pay him bucks for his story.

[@Equal-k7q]

Prison guards or officers 👮 knows everything they must be the only people able to explain the truth and situations most of them gone by now to Iraq

[@James-9999]

Why was an American in Syria? That’s sus

[@obdachlosen-hilfe]

Christian pilgrimage, if course. At least he was honest, that he was treated well. Bless him.

[@bogucha12]

So , now he can continue his pilgrimage . ps: Give me a break .

[@ozhoo]

Do they serve gummies in prison? 🤔

[@YazanZam-j3f]

😂

[@SRRMCS]

why was he in Syria?

[@thegamechanger3317]

CIA definitely 😂😂

[@carramboardlover938]

Absolutely no doubt

[@Ronald-Gay-Rump]

Nah, just out for a walk.

[@mokinteh9026]

CIA man

[@Beenuploadingonytsince2006]

Bro is not telling the whole truth 😅

[@Crimespeaksuk]

Exactly liar

[@noufveldon6160]

He kind of looks like a bearded Justin Bieber

[@k-1m-230]

An undercover agent

[@anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808]

*Crossing into Syria Illegally, who does that?* This guy CIA. That being said, still happy he has been freed.

[@GnosticAtheist]

Possible. Still, he clearly worked against Assad, so the rebels will just see it as a win to send him to the US. Good PR and they have no ill will against an enemy of Assad either. Or he is telling the truth, doesnt really matter to be honest, since he was in jail he obviously was not supporting Assad.

[@Carol-Lyne]

Or just a millennial and really thought he could wander to Damascus

[@CMan223-tr7rb]

If this guy was a trained operator like everyone says he is, why would he be in Syria? And why would he seem so nonchalant with a suspicious backstory? I know undercover operatives are trained especially for cover stories that are drilled into them but this guy seems sloppy or dazed.

[@Blukunin]

But is it Travis Timmerman or a man identifying as Travis Timmerman?

[@yjk5737]

Not everyday you find a surprise American

[@rahmath3305]

He was. Oh no! but I just got into the prison! I don’t want to leave it!

[@gerhard6105]

So he just left after being liberated and did he get his passport again? Otherwise you don't come far.

[@suntalunta]

He prob didn't have a passport since he crossed the border illegally.

[@RafaelHernández-w4q]

Hes a country boy

[@VR36030]

Sounds like he was jailed for proselytizing (trying to convert local Muslims to Christianity) but the prison officials knew he was American and so treated him well compared to the Syrians inside.

[@YazanZam-j3f]

No, that's not the reason. In Syria, it is forbidden for anyone to call people to any religion in the street. Only churches and mosques are allowed, and the government is not Islamic. It is closer to secularism, with some Islamic and Christian laws so that the government avoids any opposition from the people. I think the reason he was imprisoned was to get him out for money. I mean communicating with the American government to negotiate