Man of Steel - A Chaotic Takeoff

[@StarWarsHour]

I think what’s funniest is that Christopher Nolan, one of those guys who’s a huge stickler to realism and reality, who directed interstellar and who was an executive producer on this movie had no objections to the black hole part 😂😂😂

[@fearlesseye5896]

He’s only realistic when it comes to the Batman trilogy. All of his other movies are sci-fi flicks or has sci-fi elements. He’s actually a stickler for sci-fi films, it just ironic that he made an exception for Batman.

[@callummoore6962]

Plus his style of storytelling fits the neoclassicalism than realism anyway.

[@justanotheryotuber23]

@@fearlesseye5896 it's batman, what did you expect, a interdimensional god vs Batman?

[@fearlesseye5896]

@@justanotheryotuber23 Yes, he fought against interdimentional being, look at Darkseid. And yes, he has supernatural villains, his rogue gallery is filled with them. Clayface, Killer Croc, Ra Al Ghul, Poison Ivy, Dr Phosphorus, Dracula and many many more. Batman, in the comics and the animated show, is not and never was grounded.

[@fxriSSS]

@@justanotheryotuber23 let me guess,you know nothing about batman

[@yank3305]

Oh boy, I can already hear the Snyder fans right now

[@s.k.4289]

Light the fires.

[@TheRegibump]

@@s.k.4289 Don’t worry SK, they only care for 3 of the movies you'll be discussing. Once we get to Aquaman they’ll flock away.

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

@@TheRegibump i still forget the snyderverse only had like three movies.

[@Dhampire1976]

This was the Superman that I grew up with besides Superman returns,so it holds a soft spot in my heart. I miss this very brief window where the DCEU wasn't trying to be marvel and had its own tone and identity. Say what you will about Snyder and his take on the heroes,but this felt more complete and like it knew what it was right away,unlike the later DC films that just tried to be marvel but failed So excited for the new film. It looks like we finally are gonna get the real superman on film again after nearly 16+years and I'm all for it

[@spider-manunknown9193]

The Death of Superman & Superman vs The Elite were so much better Superman movies, I’m glad you added them in the beginning.

[@s.k.4289]

Agreed

[@DanialTarki]

Agreedx2

[@comicbookking3446]

19:48 I hear some people say he should’ve used his ice breath, put his hand through Zod’s heat vision, turn Zod’s head down on himself, having Superman use his heat vision on Zod’s head to disorient and distract him, kicking Zod’s legs to disorient him, turn Zod’s head vision up into to the air and keep it there until he runs out of steam, fly Zod up and away from the people or to not even have the sequence at all.

[@frenchwafer5198]

The last part is the best option. He didnt have freezebreath until JL and Zod says he wouldn’t stop unless killed. I think a lot of people kind of forget that part so the best case is this scene never existed.

[@matthodgkinson2003]

@comicbookking3446 Putting his hand in front of Zod's eyes wouldn't work as we see heat vision hurts Kryptonians, and even if Superman stopped Zod from killing the family he wasn't going to stop until he killed evey human possible "I'm going to make them suffer, Kal. I will take them all from you"

[@tabkg5802]

Ice breath wouldn't have worked (it didn't exist at the time and laser beats ice 😮😮😮) Ah yes because they can tank their own hardest attacks Which would've seppukud him? So use a strongest attack to the weakest part of his body? Ah yes because kicking someone's leg when they're kneeling totally would do a lot of good (it just might have 💀 the family in the process) This implies he could do it lol. If you unironically suggest this you don't actually know how grappling works So do something that he tried at the start of their fight and something that didn't work? Last 'option' is a literal cope out lol

[@faith4657]

The last option is literally a cop out. His in the moment, it's here now. What will he do. Many of the options, you least wouldn't work cause they are either kneeling and zod is just as strong. Putting his hand on his eyes is bad cause laser like that can hurt them, and if he gets more damaged, he wouldn't be able to save more ppl. It's either kill zod or damage yourself trying to stop zod, preventing the inevitable of him slaughtering millions. Those are the options. And there's no rosie wade to put it.

[@comicbookking3446]

@@tabkg5802 those are not my ideas. I actually don’t mind Superman killing Zod in this movie, like SK said there was no other options Superman could do aside from killing him and he did regret killing Zod.

[@loogiman8491]

"You can't throw Morality in the Garbage just because Life's tough!" That quote right there is why Man of Steel doesn't work. Edgy 2000s and Superman simply don't mix.

[@dudewithachannel1163]

There are two reasons Clark brought the fight to a populated area, 7/11 and IHop

[@mrkaji8913]

0:26 I was expecting the zod neck snap.

[@krazykanonball1735]

Amazing review, no biases at all. Nothing, but good and constructive criticism while also addressing the positives of the movie. I definitely think this movie could have been great, but the writers needed more time. I can’t wait for your Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice review. And with that being said, take care and have a good day S.K.

[@Warrior-of-Light-Zero]

Synder is trying to create Absolute Superman but he only managed to create a strong Kryptonian that is terrible hero

[@Fenris30]

How is he a terrible hero when Lois was able to track him down because he could stop helping people? It like you guys just shut off your Brains with these movies.

[@reeshitdey568]

@@Fenris30brains off??? Let’s see why he is a terrible hero, caused massive destruction while fighting zod when he could have easily taken him to fight anywhere else like desert or maybe in space but he decided to play punch and fly with zod in metropolis while destroying half the city assuming killing many people, how do I know there are a lot of casualties because it’s obviously shown in the beginning of BvS and that’s the sole motivation of batman to kill superman, next point is that throughout the movie he saves like around 3 people as superman Martha Kent in their farm, Lois lane in space and that one pilot , now you can argue that he saved a lot of people by destroying world engine , but my guy it’s literally shown in BvS that the fight between him and zod caused lot of casualties, plus not to beat a dead horse but he should have saved “Jonathan Kent” it’s so dumb for Clark to not even try save his step father when he literally can, very out of character for him, so tell me how is he not a terrible hero?

[@notliked42210]

I think i hear the Snyder stampede already......

[@nealandkriz]

You are absolutely right about the overall tone of the film missing the mark. However, some of the „plot holes“ I find pulled out of thin air: - terraforming (as established by various fiction works) usually destroys everything on a planet before new things can take shape. Kryptonians wouldn’t do that to their home planet while still on it - colonizing the outposts instead of staying on a dying planet is a decision that does not come easily in a somewhat democratic society where you need to have a consensus for such a big feat (we have this problem on earth as well, underlining that the two societies are similar, and Krypton, despite all its advances still has very human flaws)

[@solivagen435]

What I find interesting is that Henry Cavill acknowledges the severe casualties of Smallville and Metropolis. Jonathan's choice to keep his powers hidden and Zod's death are flaws in his character's journey. In the future, he has to make active choices not to be put in those situations and be better. But in the movie, it seems that was character progression? I wish Cavill had been involved in the creative process. Also, after Sonic 3. It would've been cool if the climax occurred on the moon and in space as a way of "Nobody dies. It's just you and me, Zod." 🔥

[@luigiboi4244]

It’s almost as if hiring a guy who is famous for spectacle shots in movies and has gone on record saying he doesn’t like Superman was a bad idea from the start.

[@pathserenmademewritethis3952]

18:52 iron man did that because he knew he could exploit the weakness of the suit to his advantage, i don't remember him flying high to avoid civilian casualty And yeah superman should've took zord to space

[@TheWildRobotHypeFan2025]

When it comes to Iron Man could work either way I would say knocking out two birds with one stone considering Iron monger will be far away from causing any casualties and Tony Stark would exploit the icing problem that's a Iron monger suit how to watch Tony Stark Lawrence from The Mark II considering that armor has a icing problem watch The Mark 3 or future armors don't have

[@pathserenmademewritethis3952]

@TheWildRobotHypeFan2025 yeah

[@faith4657]

Superman did take zod to space, and zod sent him right back down.

[@TheSaharay1]

​@@faith4657 Then he should have kept doing it

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

@@faith4657 S.k did cover that one part.

[@wyldstyle-p9r]

anybody else got goosebumps watching the intro

[@StormSlayer69]

If DCEU Superman isn’t a top 5 character butchering in superhero stuff, we’re all doomed

[@nont18411]

I don’t know if this list could be considered as “superheroes” 1. Spider-Man in Zeb Wells comics 2. Batman in Suicide Squad game 3. Nick Fury in Secret Invasion 4. Luke Skywalker in the sequel trilogy 5. Joel in Last of Us 2 So yep, DCEU Superman isn’t in the top 5

[@MrStephen-v7c]

​@@nont18411 1. Ezra Miller's Barry Allen 2. Ezra Miller's Barry Allen 3. Ezra Miller's Barry Allen 4. Ezra Miller's Barry Allen 5. Keanu Reeves' Constantine

[@StormSlayer69]

@@nont18411 Luke and Joel aren’t superhero stuff, and even still DCEU Superman’s butchering was so bad it crippled the DCEU and DC’s reputation as a whole So yeah, def top 5

[@solivagen435]

25:25 To quote The Lego Batman Movie, "He's making a lot of sense."

[@Grey8270]

19:41 I heard the argument that Clark should have the strength to be able to prevent Zod from moving his head

[@ShakShak1999]

I mean he could also have lift up zod especially seeing how he could use much of his strength to just fly up wards holding zod with him

[@megashark1013]

Every time people give an explanation for what Clark should have done, it can pretty easily countered by "and then what?" Zod is still alive and kicking, and he's trying to kill Clark. Just because that specific family is no longer in immediate danger doesn't change the fact that Zod could still kill anyone else on the planet. No cell can hold him and he's determined to keep fighting. I think Man of Steel is a shit film, but killing Zod really is the only way.

[@callmejacob3234]

Warner Brothers was coming off the high of The Dark Knight Trilogy and wanted to recapture the magic with Superman, but it blew up in their faces.

[@daryltor7608]

Nice editing in the beginning with all the different Supermen

[@elishawilson5342]

What I disagree on is thinking that villains will follow him out the city he leaves the city they'll still attack civilians and I disagree that he didn't try to fly them out when he grabbed Faora he flew up and Namek tackled him back down

[@kabbus22]

That could have happened if we got more experience and aged superman like Kingdom come . But we got noob vs expert gladiators 😂😂😂

[@elishawilson5342]

@kabbus22 point is that it doesn't matter either way even back in Superman 2 they attacked civilians nobody complained then they say Superman should fly away Superman flew away in Superman 2 what did Zod do stay in the city about to kill everyone until Lex reveals he knows the location of the fortress of solitude and leads them there

[@elishawilson5342]

@kabbus22 and he was a more experienced Superman with years under his belt and man of steel he's only been Superman only a day two at most because he just learned to fly then later that night Zod shows up with his team and he has to fight them so yes he's clearly new and should be cut a little slack

[@kabbus22]

@@elishawilson5342 in the end this is kid's stuff so don't take seriously 😁.But I will admit nolan and zack created this movie so hard that the audience still debates on it

[@kabbus22]

@@elishawilson5342 I only watched reeves superman 1 and 4 . And i really loved those two .I didn't know that part

[@PrinceAliTheGreatest]

My problem with Cavil’s Superman is that, he looks like Superman, but his aura doesn’t. Superman is a nice guy who’ll make room for anyone, no matter how small or how big the case is-rescuing a kitten stuck in a tree, stopping an alien invasion, or attending your fifth birthday party. He’s a guy who’s suppose to fill you with the insurance of safety and comfort from first glance alone. That’s Superman’s aura. Cavil’s Superman feels a little TOO serious. To the point where I’d say he would’ve been a better candidate to play Bruce Wayne. Don’t lie-if you were a little child and Cavil’s Superman was standing in front of you, you WOULD feel slightly intimidated.

[@faith4657]

No child would, and I'm not lying too. His serious, but that's cause his a chill guy. No stress until later. The guy is just taking the situation seriously. The only time he likes that is if his dealing with a threat like this. Other times are all vibes 🤙.

[@kev_7731]

​@@faith4657is a deconstruction

[@GrendelsPRIME]

19:41 now do you believe the family couldve just moved past the slowly moving laser?

[@s.k.4289]

They could but they’re background extras so I don’t really care.

[@faith4657]

There was debris blocking their way, and what's stopping zod from just moving his eyes (cause it's eye laser) to hit them if they try.

[@QuimbyFletcher69]

Also one thing I don’t like is that during the fight with Zod superman only saves one person during that entire fight 😭

[@elishawilson5342]

He literally killed Zod to save the family and the world itself

[@t.i.5528]

Jor-El: There are habitable worlds in reach like Earth! Council: Are you SERIOUSLY saying we evacuate? Jor-El: No. ...What?

[@captainbeastwinger4940]

You're saying the lives of innocent people is more than my secret identity?

[@Stryker97421]

15:34 the reason they use the ship to make a black hole is to get rid of the kryptonians, you'll notice that the only people getting pulled in are kryptonians. Lois is falling and the rest of the background doesn't have civilians being pulled into the black hole. You'll also notice the jets and missiles were being thrown off by the terraforming, it wasn't until Superman's ship had the key put in that anything could touch the world engine

[@oscilao]

the problem with john’s logic is that it isn’t how johnathan actually acts, but not intentionally. Snyder just thought it was the right thing to do

[@gontse1386]

The flash as bad as it was it showed what could've happened to Clark had the government been aware of what he is Johnathan wanted Clark to keep his secret because it could've been dangerous for him to not do so

[@skibot9974]

16:52 I have to disagree here. Let’s say Zod agrees to Superman’s terms, what stops Zod from leaving Earth and finding a DIFFERENT planet to terraform? If the machine stays active then Superman is only pushing the problem to a different planet

[@s.k.4289]

Superman, because he’s the one telling him to land the ship safely. Also this isn’t meant to be a long term deal, this is just so Zod avoids destruction in the moment so Clark can mitigate damage.

[@LordVaderTyrannus]

Good points. One thing tho, with the whole Kryptonian outposts thing, even tho I’m not the biggest fan of this movie. Jor El explained to Clark that they abandoned them along the same time that the society regressed into artificial population control, stop of space exploration and stagnation. The idea is that the Kryptonian counsel became complacent. Getting rid of the outposts and staying only on Krypton was likely some dogmatic religious principle, just like how a natural birth became “heresy”. Which makes sense, lots of religious principles are done simply because it’s “tradition” even if it’s counterintuitive. Jor even said “Look to the stars, like our ancestors did!”

[@sizweshongwe7312]

When it comes to the black hole generator thing It's kinda established (but not really) that that it only sucks in Kryptonians or Kryptonian Technnology as when we see when Clark tries to escape it's pull you can see that it has a wierd effect on him rather than Lois. The effect in question is that weird blue pulling effect.

[@Sharkgobrrrr]

if it did, it would be nice for them to establish that through dialogue. While it is neat they put the effect in the movie, even a quick screen showing 'Black Hole: Krypton Mode' or something would work.

[@faith4657]

​@Sharkgobrrrr, I mean it's showing it that it only picks up kryptonian things that have already had the phantom zone effect.

[@faith4657]

It only picks things that have been affected by the phantom/ being in it.

[@DanialTarki]

3:45 Agreed. Clark should have made at least _one_ other objection.

[@whatthefilmwtf7171]

I like the warehouse scene from bvs

[@s.k.4289]

Agreed, wish it was in a better movie.

[@rickyrackey7930]

S.K! Call out Tyrone Magnus for falling into the grift and becoming a sellout and my life is yours!

[@Anonymous.Throne]

He should’ve saved his father by pinning him down on the ground, clark using his own body as cover, & digging one arm in the ground to stay grounded so they don’t fly away. From far away you can’t tell what’s going on. Any other scenario doesn’t work, & your beloved Ezra Miller has conveyed speedsters can’t move people at super-speed in this continuity.

[@TheBurgerKingBK]

My favorite Superman movie, but I definitely don’t think it’s the best.

[@s.k.4289]

You’d hate it if Superman destroyed Burger King.

[@TheBurgerKingBK]

@@s.k.4289 Unfortunately he still destroyed one of my favorite restaurants (IHOP)

[@kerry-j4m]

Which Superman film do you think is the best ??? And as far as killing Zod,Reeves kills Zod in Superman 2 and not a word about that. Why not ???

[@TheBurgerKingBK]

@@kerry-j4m I think the animated film Superman Vs. The Elite is the best. I have no problem with Superman killing Zod in MoS as he had no choice. And I actually don’t like Superman 2 and think it’s a really bad movie that doesn’t understand Superman as a character.

[@whatthefilmwtf7171]

Its hard too explain i love how superman moves and the weight of him when he's flying and hitting things and that's what i don't like about superman and Lois it feels like there no consequences for the characters in the show moving fast it feels like there speed doesn't affect anything else but them it's it's not important too the scene

[@DashielG-vn5ji]

The interesting part about the semi truck scene Clark completely ruins the truck drivers source of income...😂

[@faith4657]

I mean, don't drink and drive. Plus there's insurance.

[@DashielG-vn5ji]

@faith4657 👍🏾 for imagination... if that was kal el's intentions

[@faith4657]

@@DashielG-vn5ji it was meant as a joke, but this is much more out there clark. Like that guy was still a sick either way. At least he didn't hurt him.

[@fourth1000]

Superman flying zod through the building in to the town was a result of his anger for zod attacking his mom. It is reckless. Superman flying away to an open field would only make it more convenient for zods team to kill people. Fights are wreckless and are about gaining control of the narrative. And honestly if superman made all these decisions.. watching him fight in open field arenas would be boring.

[@gontse1386]

And it was his 2nd day as superman These guys wanted him to act like he had a decade of experience

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

@@gontse1386 Are we really doing this straw-man again? A cop on his 2nd day is going to be inexperienced, but he's not going to open fire at a murder suspect in the middle of a crowded street. Nobody wants Clark to act like he's experienced, they just want him not to act like a complete moron who seems oblivious to collateral damage.

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

"Superman flying zod through the building in to the town was a result of his anger for zod attacking his mom." - As soon as he realizes that he took Zod into the middle of Smallville, that defense stops working. "Superman flying away to an open field would only make it more convenient for zods team to kill people." - How? they wouldn't be around any people to kill. You realize they only showed up in Smallville because Clark was fighting Zod there, right? "watching him fight in open field arenas would be boring." - Then write it in a way that forces him not to. Have him TRY to fight them away from civilians but failing, because the bad guys keep bringing it back to Smallville, specifically to make Clark distracted, and to make him busy protecting civilians, which prevents him from fighting back as much. Don't write it so that Clark has every opportunity to bring the fight away from civilians but choosing to not even try.

[@gontse1386]

@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 well WB listened you guys and had the flash and keaton's batman fight in an open field Clearly according to you guys there should never be any casualties

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

​@@gontse1386 "according to you guys there should never be any casualties" - That's another straw-man.

[@dj-drew100xd8]

Superman The Movie 1978 is the BEST Superman movie!

[@s.k.4289]

I’d give that to Superman vs The Elite

[@henrygambles3652]

“Krypton had its chance!” That’s not Superman!

[@matthodgkinson2003]

Honestly as someone who really enjoys MOS you've made really good points SK. The only thing I disagree on is the whole black hole plan and Lois not being pulled in. The black hole was generated by the collision of the phantom drives on Clark's pod and Zod's ship thus its only affecting things that have travelled through the phantom zone. This is why only Superman and the Kryptonians are pulled in as they unlike Lois have travelled through the phantom zone. The debris was being pulled as it was hit by the beam from the ship, which has similar properties to the PZ. I think its alright for Superman to go with this plan as it only effects the Kryptonians.

[@s.k.4289]

Well the soldiers get blown in and the buildings get ripped apart too, when they’ve been on Earth forever.

[@matthodgkinson2003]

@s.k.4289 I may be misremembering, but I believe they got hit by the ships laser as well so they would be pulled in.

[@elishawilson5342]

​@@s.k.4289they had to clash their plane into the Kryptonian ship in order for it to work they knew they were sacrificing their lives for this to work

[@elishawilson5342]

​@@matthodgkinson2003they would be dead either way because it does result in them dying to get them outta here

[@nont18411]

Despite so many people considering this to be a wrong take on Superman and how Snyder kept missing the point because he’s too edgy, I just can’t deny that Man of Steel and the Snyder Cut are my guilty pleasures and I’m grateful that both of them were made.

[@twinklestarproductions]

I wish you could do this format youre doing with all the DCEU films with all the films in the MCU going forward.

[@s.k.4289]

Yep that’s the plan

[@twinklestarproductions]

@s.k.4289 yessssss!!!! Let's Gooooo!!!!

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

14:05 Don't stop to talk don't stop to talk don't stop to talk.

[@paperlionkid1787]

Yay! I'm excited about your DCEU: Snyderverse series.

[@QuimbyFletcher69]

Same

[@IGuessItsSketchyT]

0:27 "The bridge between two peoples" 😂😂😂

[@fourth1000]

Only objects or people that have passed through the phantom zone were pulled in to the black hole. It's the reason Lois is falling against rising rubble with him struggling

[@megashark1013]

Well, there are also earth soldiers and rubble from earth buildings getting caught in it and dragged in, so I don't know how that tracks.

[@fourth1000]

@@megashark1013 all rubble and objects hit by world engine are pull through.. the people caught and lifted in the air that are mashed corpses, them too. It tracks.

[@tylermeyer2163]

If the Snyder droids were real people they would be very upset.

[@Snomrade]

I think man of steel is a solid movie but it’s not a Superman movie to me

[@TonyMarshall305]

He a has problem killing Zod but he's chill with sending multiple Kryptonians through a black hole

[@faith4657]

Yea, the phantom zone, which didn't kill them when they were in it before, why would it kill them now?

[@TonyMarshall305]

​@@faith4657A place where they will spend an eternity, as said by Zod at the beginning of the movie

[@TheWildRobotHypeFan2025]

When it comes to the DC expanded universe Superman there will be a lot of those casualties will be forgotten when it comes to this movie specifically in the third act of the movie

[@HarryOsborn-eg9el]

Arrowverse Got Superman Right. i.e Superman & Lois

[@Seventhplanet538]

Is that good? I've been wondering on whether or not I should watch it.

[@oliversmith1760]

@@Seventhplanet538 season 1 is good but stop after that imo

[@YoshikageKira-zb8ib]

Bye SK, the snyder fanboys will find you so farewell

[@h8thegr8]

DCEU Superman has as much care for his surroundings in a fight as a napalm missile.

[@LemonDrop-zt9xx]

Personally, I like Man of Steel but I agree with everything you said. Will you also be doing similar reviews for the MCU movies?

[@s.k.4289]

Yes

[@kingcyrusthegreat3887]

That scene where Superman is walking towards Faora menacingly pisses me off cause I'm sitting here knowing Henry Cavill can act and all Synder has is him walking menacingly not even telling Faora when she says we will kill millions NOTHING just walking towards her in silence. Seriously ? No " No you will not harm these people cause I'm between you and them " or something right there is where I knew Zacks Superman was doomed

[@faith4657]

What kind of arbitrary take is this cause he didn't say anything to her. Have you ever heard of "actions speak louder than words?" What does him walk towards her do, especially when he didn't walk towards her when she said that line.

[@kingcyrusthegreat3887]

@@faith4657 He literally is walking toward her menacingly at her without saying word when she is clearly threating humanity.

[@faith4657]

@kingcyrusthegreat3887 Yea, he walks at her sure, threatening humans while also in pain. Before he knew it, a train hit him. He doesn't need to say anything that he doesn't prove with his actions, where he stops her from killing ppl twice.

[@gontse1386]

​@@faith4657these guys wanted Snyder's superman to act exactly the same as the cartoon they grew up watching

[@faith4657]

@gontse1386 True, but forget the cartoons as well had the same things snyder's Superman is being criticized for.

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

I am interested in this new series.

[@Garbear0119]

I miss the flush review

[@QuimbyFletcher69]

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME

[@domesticmh4567]

great video

[@AkeemReese]

So. Should’ve that also meant in the first Bayformers movie Optimus prime should’ve steered Megatron to fight somewhere else. Instead, they kept on fighting in a highly dense populated city. See and this is why Goku is a better hero because he always tries his best to convince the villain's, to fight in an unpopulated area like a canyon. Because unlike Superman Goku always takes in consideration, of the amount of lives that will be lost because he understands how powerful he is, and how devastating his fights can get. And why is he so shocked about this? This falls in line with Superman character he almost never thinks twice to switch locations where there are no civilians around during his big fights🤨. It always happened in the comics, and it also happened in his animated series and in the justice league shows. Does Superman vs Shazam bring in justice league unlimited game bells? What about Superman‘s life or death battle against doomsday? Or seriously what about any other time the justice league were called into action to stop some world ending threat? The fight always took place in some kind of city.

[@Doxthefox]

I hear im here...damn that rhymed

[@cipher_bb]

sk off-topic, what's your problem with MauLer in general? Is it strictly professional for the views or is there a feud?

[@s.k.4289]

I think he has noticeably poor media takes based on what I’ve seen/responded to, but that’s not related to any kind of beef, that’s just criticism I have towards his analysis. The only serious issue I have with him on a moral level is that he had a regular EFAP guest named ChaseFace who he stated was a self admitted sexual abuser, but he didn’t speak up about it when evidence surfaced despite believing it. He basically didn’t help the victim while many people in his community were doubting the allegations, and that’s something you absolutely need to warn your audience about considering how often Chase was on and the fact sexual abusers are inherently dangerous and untrustworthy. Looks to me like he was more concerned about protecting his brand considering it sours older content with Chase if more of his fans knew.

[@cipher_bb]

@s.k.4289 This might be conjecture on our parts but if there was an option to resolve things in the quiet end v/s making the issues a public opinion immediately (hurting the brand), would you disagree that one would have preferred to not associate with that person while choosing to save their channel from embarrassment and possibly irreparable damage?

[@mpguy24]

​@@cipher_bbforgive me if I misunderstood your comment but I think something as serious as child predators running around on the internet, should be public, I would understand Mauler if it was just petty drama(so if it boiled down to that Mauler simply found Chase annoying) I would understand keeping it quite, no need to make everything public, but this is a child predator we are talking about, who are dangerous people and hiding them is irresponsible and wrong. If Mauler withheld the situation for the sake of his brand, that's really selfish on his part, stuff like this is too important to keep hidden for the sake of branding and I also think Efap would still continue being successful, as Chase wasn't the only part that made it successful, people come for other KZbinrs there too, (and plus prior to Chase admitting to his crimes and other clues coming out, Mauler didn't know that Chase was a p word, so when he did find out, if Mauler actually revealed and cut ties publicly, I'm sure people would understand that it wasn't Mauler's fault that Chase did the things he did) so not only is Mauler staying silent on Chase selfish, but in the grand scheme of things pointless too.

[@blockwearingman]

can't wait for the new one

[@Temujin18S]

I like Man of Steel this one of the few video's highlight actual problems within the film. Now in regard Zod fight I agree for most with the unnescary destruction but unlike Faora Ul and Jax-Ur, leading Zod wouldn't work he would resort to target humans. As hes completely filled with just rage and pure malice unlike Iron Monger soley focused on Iron Man as in no way attempting indiscriminately target civilains or destroy humanity. Superman does attempt to punch away from the city at one point only for Zod to push him back. Though I do agree at least Superman shouldve attempt be more cogizant damage and surrounding area. Have Superman tell lois and others to excavate the surrounding area as he may strggule to contain the destruction.

[@mrkaji8913]

Talk about the dcamu and compare them since that’s so much better.

[@58monz]

im going to make an edit based on that intro

[@s.k.4289]

Go for it

[@SuccessMotivationInspire]

Man i wished we got to see the rest of snyder's true vision where batman gets lois lane pregnant

[@fourth1000]

You never got the full superman structure.. it was to evolve in very 5 movies as a journey to self discovery. This is why the characters start off in a morally grey area- they're figuring things out as they go along instead of acting like they're in the early prep for a super hero movie. The fact that you can question Jonathan Kent's response to kids dying- is what the movie was going for. Too many critics treat the scene as if he was certain they should die.

[@gontse1386]

The flash showed what could've happened to Clark had his secret been exposed Johnathan was being protective of Clark These guys wanted superman to be fully experienced in his first 2 days as superman

[@Seventhplanet538]

Typical Snyder fanboy defence "Yeah it is bad right now, but once we make it to the fifth movie it will get better, I promise"

[@fourth1000]

@Seventhplanet538 never said that. Only indicative of you're hate for movies that don't spoon feed you information. Keep eating your marvel garbage

[@fourth1000]

@@gontse1386 exactly. They hate story. They just want a movie that confirms what they already know and call it a new experience

[@mrkaji8913]

19:41 they could of moved out of the way

[@jacklove503]

Technically speaking the Green lantern Ryan Reynolds movie is the start of this universe this universe was dead before it got started because it didn't get its iron Man moment

[@petermj1098]

The Green Lantern movie is better than most MCU stuff tbh

[@faith4657]

It was before but not anymore.

[@skibot9974]

When you say “Character Assisnation” do you mean simply out of character or the character is tarnished forever? I tend to associate the term with the latter but you seem to be using it as the former

[@s.k.4289]

It has to be deeply out of character

[@flapperjack8754]

7:00 why would he change?

[@s.k.4289]

Why would he change?!

[@colinmiyamoto2190]

Can’t wait for the Batman V Superman video that movie has gotten so overrated for the past couple of years

[@KrytoRift]

Really? Most people I know or have heard from, think this movie is pretty stupid

[@colinmiyamoto2190]

@ well online I’ve heard people say in comment sections that they think that the movies actually good. Not to mention the Snyder cult which I’m pretty sure are most of the people leaving those comments

[@KrytoRift]

@colinmiyamoto2190 the Snyder cut is justice league. Maybe weirdos in the comments say this but the general consensus is its trash tier

[@faith4657]

Idk what you're term for overrated but that would mean it was rated highly beyond merits and that's not what I see ppl do. Also UE version is better, which I hold he covers.

[@colinmiyamoto2190]

@ idk I would just hear people saying in comment sections talking about how they like the movie and think that it was overhated or underrated but that’s just my experience

[@subtheway]

Sonic frontiers background music is actually masterful, oh yeah and man of steel is dogshit I will say though if Superman is powerful enough to snap Zod’s neck, I feel as if he could’ve easily just redirected zods laser instead of killing him 🤷 Good video btw keep it up ❤

[@christophergrant5280]

Sk, are you still doing disagreement days with colin? i remember seeing you guys got into a fight about something

[@s.k.4289]

Nope.

[@christophergrant5280]

@s.k.4289 Well, I hope you and colin will patch things up 1 day

[@montbraestudios]

Will you ever cover any of the other Superman movies like Superman Returns?

[@s.k.4289]

I might

[@channel45853]

It seems like you are salivating at the attenpt to make fans of this movie mad, which makes me want to check out of the video.

[@ActuallyAlask]

Man of Steel spits in the face of Superman in multiple ways. Snyder dulls all of the color in his suit down, which automatically disqualifies it as a good Superman suit. Henry Cavil's acting is also extremely wooden in this movie, even during major fight sequences. And absolutely, "Superman is inexperienced" is a horrible counter-argument to the main criticism of this movie. We spend the whole first half watching Clark try to save people because of his inherent nature. His lack of priority on the people is out of character even within the movie. On the positive side, Michael Shannon was the best part of this movie. He was hilariously campy and badass. Man of Steel has moments of greatness. It just doesn't work as a whole.

[@faith4657]

The colors being dull doesn't take away from the suit being awesome to look at. That's a subjective take that you don't like. I don't think his acting is wooden cause he has a lot of heart and emotion to this character, but to each their own. You say he doesn't prioritize ppl yet does exactly that while saving ppl in between fighting the bad guys. He literally tries to leave many times but is grounded by them to keep the fight in the populated areas.

[@ActuallyAlask]

@@faith4657 Superman's suit is bright. Period full stop. That's not subjective, that's just Superman. Dulling it down is a slap to the face of Superman. And yes, Henry's acting is wooden. Watch the scene where he meets his real father for the first time. Watch his facial expressions during the Zod fight. And the video above perfectly proves why Superman doesn't prioritizes human safety.

[@faith4657]

@ActuallyAlask You do realize there have been different shades of colors for Superman's suit, right? So this isn't the full stop period moment, like you think it is. It really is not a slap in the face, but ok. How do you expect him to feel? He's just meeting the guy and is told all this info. Yea his like that cause his empathizing with him, and literally right after gets sent flying, so why would his face be any different? Sounds like a lot of picking cause there are scenes where our face isn't like that, so what gives. No, it doesn't cause he nitpicks some things and forgets that his on the ropes fighting 2 beings that keep bringing the fight back down into the ground. If you saw the movie or any other review which covers it, you will see why just sending them to the fields is a temporary solution, which is proven right with zod, faroza, and ermak.

[@ActuallyAlask]

@@faith4657 "No, Superman's suit being dark colors is fine because it's been done in the past" This is a horrible argument. I can just say those instances were also a slap in the face to Superman

[@faith4657]

@ActuallyAlask No, YOU think that. All I said is that there are other versions with different shades of the color. There is no one definitive version. You like a certain version others do. Idk know why you got to stress out.

[@connorharnage6697]

So you'll let the killing Zod thing go but I won't because to quote Future Gohan from DBZA FLY UP!!

[@s.k.4289]

Zod can look down and they are dead. Also, Superman had Zod’s legs pinned. Now they’re free to defend him if he flies.

[@connorharnage6697]

@ While true, he could have still held his head in place. Granted there's no assurance the resulting debris wouldn't fall on them but I'm sure the chance of dying to falling debris is a lot lower than death by heat vision and also this Superman doesn't seem to think that far ahead given how this whole fight would've had a lot less casualties if he threw Zod into space (like you said) or the artic, anywhere but a still very much populated Metropolis

[@faith4657]

​@@connorharnage6697 he did throw zod into space are you forgetting zod can fly. And that's what he did.

[@connorharnage6697]

@ Yes I know he did it. SK even said it in the video. How is being able to fly relevant? Superman can fly too and is shown to be going pretty much toe to toe with Zod. There's nothing that indicates Superman couldnt just drag him back

[@faith4657]

@connorharnage6697 Yea and the cycle repeats. Ppl forget that these guys have the WILL TO FIGHT BACK. Everytime they get the chance they will struggle.

[@thesithcynic3398]

KRYPTON HAD ITS CHANCE

[@thezanvonslasher5165]

Okay so as both a Snyder fan and as a genuine nerd who tries to analyse stuff who has defended this movie, let me state the points i both agree and disagree with.. Agreeing points- 1)I,do agree that the Krypton set up was a bit messed up so thats a yes. 2)I half agree on the shallowness of Johnathan's moral logic. It DEFINITELY is contrived and MASSIVELY underdeveloped if not wasted almost. 3)I do agree that Clark should have took the dog and ran away(although maybe someone could argue that perhaps he tried to get Martha to safely but its way too convinient.) 4)In the fight against Faora, mainly when he talks to her while she is weak is indeed a bit questionable. 5)I do think that the way the truck was destroyed while not totally destroying his character does indeed be over indulging. 6)Lois surviving indeed was PLOT ARMORM 6)And i definitely OVERALL agree that many issues you did mention are mainly resemblant of the somewhat contrived plot. But there are also a good chunk of points that i disagree with, mainly with Clark's character. Also kindly correct me if i am wrong or if i am genuinely missing something as i am only a human so i can make faults and definitely would want to be corrected. 1)I think MAJORITY(NOT ALL. BUT MAJORITY) of examples of Clark not making correct decisions arent fully justified. Let me make three specific examples- A)With Zod i dont think he is out of character for taking the fight to Smallville, mainly cuz he is inexperienced(i know you addressed this but LET ME CLARIFY/GENUINE) and mainly, emotionally not exactly the genius. If this was an experienced Supeman he would control himself from lashing out at Zod for attacking his mom. But since this isn one and it's especially evident from his expressions how emotionally nervous he is, i think this stands up. B)If you pay attention at the Ihop scene, there can be two interpretations of why they ENDED up there mainly Superman being less skilled and therefore diverted by than Faora who INITIALLy was HUMILIATING BRO. That- and more importantly- he does charge at her first. She tries to intimidate him therefore making him lose focus and try to punch. Gets humiliated. Then he charges at her in that Superman pose TRYING to assumingly get her out of there realizing that he cant throw hands skill wise except again she out maneuvers him supporting the interpretation above. C)The entire space thing, aka why he wasnt lifting him up was him assuming that the space aliens were probably just bring the fight back. Espeically since he did observe INITIALLY how Faora was outpowering him, he did assume that it wouldnt be very helpful at end and guess what, at end it makes sense for him to TRY OUT OF DESPEARATION to finally try it out aka what we discussed earlier, emotional managament as you also gotta consider that he still is fighting his own people. He may have said that "Krypton got its second chance" but obviously deep down its gonna hurt so COUPLED with inexperience the emotions go a long way explaining MOST(NOT ALL) decisions of his. Also explains his decision to tell people to go in as he is at the same time also trying to prepare for worst. Aka if he just speeds immediately at Faora when people arent inside, both people can be idk sent flying by force or worse, Faora and that one more guy using it to advantage. Its evident that throughout the fight his emotions are getting worse and when you consider that, his decisions ARENT THAT BAD. Cuz when he is in calmer environment like planning with Lois, with Martha etc he makes better decisions. But then when he is fighting, he tends to make mistakes. In fact the Lois kiss scene only shows that perhaps the kiss was to try to idk relieve him(lacking the wording but you get what i mean) So the point of inexperience when took in the context of the people he surrounded by and then the EMOTIONAL Management, DOES SERVE ENOUGH and makes his vulnerability work for MOST PART. D)Also him like slowing down meeting soldiers before going to meet Martha is a good decision since emotionally he is thinking that "i dont wanna scare em" since he knows the destruction that took place. So if anything, instead of just rushing to Martha, this attempt to seem passive is much more like Superman. 3)This is mainly to now half disagree on the death of Johnathan. Look i myseld agree that Johnathan's death was indeed done wrong Mostly and that he should have taken the dog and ran like a human, but one that can be partially adresses to human error. Or Clark error. Especially with the argument taken just before its not that he is exactlt thinking of immediately JUST supermanning now. More importantly when you did conclude that Johnathan can be biased, i think that explains all..or almost ALL the flaws in his ideology towards Clark. Again its not the best choice but that doesnt destroy Clark's character. Also him saving Lois takes place AFTER Johnathan died and lets look at the context when he saved saved Lois and didnt save Johnathan. With Johnathan not only the superspeed doesnt work since FAORA was still being seen LATER on then let alone this inexperienced Clark. Second it would make sense that Clark doesnt tell Johnathan about his abilities due to the VISIBLE DISTANCE between them. Third now he saves Lois where only she is there to witness and therefore not the entire world. I know that she COULD REVEAL TRUTH ABOUT CLARK but lets think it this way. Yeah? He was going to save Johnathan, Johnathan refuses. He stilk inside debates but then the words of his father play out and at that specific time it was too late for him to even jog around kinda and use super speed. Again that also doesnt work for reasons discussed. So if anything, LATER he would NOT WANT LOIS to die so now he finallt takes the risk. Both situational wise, experience wise and emotions wise this all does make sense very much. Indeed there could be a few inconsistencies (like discussed above where i AGREE with your criticisms) but overall for MOST PART Clark's character is VERY MUCH ACCURATE and be it on accident by Snyder or not, the depth of his reactions HAPPEN TO WORK very well and provide also this psychological aspect on clark that we never saw before. - I somewhat disagree with his powers being unearned since Clark's 2nd father is meant to be the one to GUIDE him to be Superman more so than Johnathan And since i have explained why Johnathan's words did make sense for him to say(also obviously discovering a child alien is vastky different than discovering a man who is an alien. Johnathan isnt even THAT WRONG) it also does make Jor El motivating Clark to do better (Will make a final comment beneath replies to state my conclusion)

[@thezanvonslasher5165]

Additional point before Conclusion Superman while momentarily DEBATABLY may have had leverage over Zod(which also maybe slightly argued to be manipulative since Zod unlike Clark IS THAT EXPERIENCED and cunning aka he can pull it off admittedly under fear of losing Krypton), for Clark he also has to decide that is it worth risking TRUSTING Zod to risk humanity? If anything this is very much a defining point of him siding with humanity so yeah. Conclusion- CORRECT me at any points if I have missed anything but I think the main issues revolve slightly around Krypton's destruction, momentarily inconsistencies with Supes and the heavy leaning by Johnathan on the cynicism of the world which does give the starting a bit of a sour taste admittedly. However as far as the logic part and Characterization goes, for most part the movie holds PRETTY well AND ESPECIALLY CLARK since when you look at his decisions with the CONTEXT I have mentioned all over, he really does almost(not always) remain in character and really drives the movie forward and has really strong development. I think the main issue at CORE lies at the movie's contrived nature a bit but despite that I say If you fix Johnathan's character and the few inconsistencies, it's ALMOST AN IDEAL DECONSTRUCTIVE and REALISTIC APPROACH TO Supes since this was meant to be a realistic take. And the idea was to later explore the classic sides of Superman and if anything this is one of the most DRIVEN origins of Superman. And works FOR MOST PART FANTASTICALLY. With that being Said THANKS TO YOU SINCERELY that I did notice the flaws of the film which I admittedly did miss before and your video is actually a good way to show where the movie could have used more better writing to work better even with it's contrived nature and actually sheds light on the tough nature of movie So overall I half agree with the thumbnail of "A Chaotic Takeoff". Aka "A DARING Takeoff" WITH some mistakes and yes a few plot contrivances but overall still one of the BEST movies of DCEU(arguably the best with ZSJL and Aquman 1 giving it a run). Really LOVED the video man. Thanks for this insightful video 🙏

[@Cloaker18]

Personal take but feel free to disagree with me: but people who say Cavil is the best superman are only saying that because of the actor, not the character itself

[@joshuataylor7443]

The thing is that if Superman had the ability to break his neck then would he have the ability to get him out of the building ?

[@s.k.4289]

Zod would’ve killed more people no matter where they went.

[@joshuataylor7443]

@ even if he tried to take him to space again?

[@kev_7731]

​@@joshuataylor7443YES

[@mrkaji8913]

Zach Snyder just thinks all this destruction is COOL.

[@faith4657]

It's meant to build and see how they tick.

[@mrkaji8913]

@ yea that too

[@the_pugman]

i barely like man of steel, some parts i like but most i dispise (I like jor el in it ngl) , i feel like superman doesnt stand for hope in this movie, instead he more stands as this force against evil, which is missing what superman is. its hilarious that bruce wayne did more to save ppl than SUPERMAN! (btw superman did survive getting hit by zods lasers so he couldve done that in the end lol)

[@batnick10]

I got why Batfleck sucks next🙏🏻

[@s.k.4289]

BatNick Returns.

[@mrkaji8913]

21:51 that’s L

[@t.i.5528]

Can we bring up how stupid Zod is? He wants to save Krypton, so why doesn't he just agree to co-exist with humans, rather than pick a fight with humanity and Superman (who is very powerful in case you didn't know). On top of that, Earth's atmosphere is weaker and more nourishing so it would be better for him. Superman got weaker when the atmosphere was made like Krypton. He says that he refused to do this because they would struggle to adapt to Earth's atmosphere... even though he adapted to it in like 10 minutes, and Clark did the same as a kid.

[@faith4657]

He only adapted, so clark wouldn't use it as a way to beat him. Despite all these powers, he doesn't care for them and wants home. That's not being stupid. He literally said it would be impossible suffering years just to be. You have to understand that zod doesn't care for humans but his own ppl cause that what he was programmed to be. He wants og krypton, even though it would take away his powers, he still doesn't care. Just his people.

[@t.i.5528]

@@faith4657 Except he could've saved his people if he agreed to coexist with humans. Choosing to destroy the world does nothing but make things way harder for him and leads to him and his plan being destroyed. And his decision to terraform the planet is not sentimentality. He says he's doing it so they he won't struggle to adapt (even though he and Clark both adapted in no time).

[@faith4657]

@t.i.5528 Yea, it's why his flawed. He doesn't respect the species and says that it needs foundation to be built on. Taking the world from them and doesn't want his species to suffer from years just to adapt to live. Clark literally had to adapt to his powers for years. For zod, he was breed to master his senses as he said. So adaptation to him is easy. Not all kryptonians are the same they all do different things and wouldn't be able to do the same thing. An example forza, despite being breed to be a warrior, couldn't adapt on the fly like zod.

[@CaptainRex767]

And people question why Batman hates and wants to beat the shit out of superman in dawn or justice

[@KadenThornton-h8w]

Zach Snyder was the wrong director for the first DCEU film and a superman film at that. Almost everything about Man of Steel is a misfire. His origin being spliced up in this film. They botched his parents. We all know that majority of the world accpets Superman after he defeats Zodd and kinda look at him like Jesus or somthing. So having Jon Kent be so damn hell bent on his own reasoning that he would ket kids die and himself dies for it ruins his character. They botched his girlfriend. They botched his origin along with also not really even giving Clark a real personality or goals, so they botched Superman. Zodd isnt botched but thats not good enough. I like Henry Cavil bit man Zach said fuck it imma turn this iconic hero into a war criminal. Everything this man does after finding out he is superman is cosmic levels on destruction. Just ugh anytime i try to rewatch this film i physically cant it kills me

[@faith4657]

Bro, what is this take? How was his origin, girlfriend, or his parents? His dad wanted to protect his son which is pretty reasonable, idk where you were but in BvS there's literally a majority of ppl who don't trust him, thinks he had ulterior motives, or don't like the idea of a god like character around. It was literally exactly what his dad was trying to prepare him for. His dad didn't say let the kids die cause even he was conflicted, his mom has being everything to him and his girlfriend what's so wrong with her. Idk how you could miss his goal of wanting to save ppl/using his power for good, or finding his orgin and place (which he did in this movie), or showing ppl that his here to help which he tries to do so many times. Clark didn't commit war crimes, so idk what you are waffling about cause he begged zod to stop many times. I get you don't like snyder and what he did, but if you didn't even try to understand what he was doing any attempts of convincing is meaningless.

[@KadenThornton-h8w]

@faith4657 Martha and Jon Kent have helped Clark use his powers for good and shaped him who he is. This version on superman is a war criminal. Martha just looks stressed constantly and Jon is so damn obsessed with his son being a secret he never even took Clark's emotion in consideration. And it all doesn't even matter at the end of the day because people praise superman In this universe until we are told they shouldn't and then fanservice galour. Its just wasted screentime. Louis Lane is more into her boring journalism than spending time with superman plus the script they game Amy Adam's is gawd awful. Superman in this film is a war criminal his fight with Zodd destroyed Metropolis and the local Sears and 7-11 and that act of terrorism is neglected. Plus him killing Zodd is just not what superman would do. If he can snap his neck why tf didnt he just point his blast away from the citizens. Also I'm pretty sure we don't even see him save people once out of heroism after he becomes superman. Other than his mother I can't even think of him actually doing anything out of heart. Which is sad it's almost like Zach wrote him to be this emotionless Alien instead of the down to earth Superman Clark Kent is. Zach isn't interested in writing solid true adaptations of DC heroes he is an edge lord that values spectacle over everything else. That's why we got a bad superman and then we get a bad batman who also kills people. These aren't superheros these are fanfictionalized tyrants. You clearly don't understand the difference from Zach's muddy versions of these heros compared to the way they have been portrayed for decades. You can dark spins or even new takes but these takes are meant for some edgy elseworld story not a DCEU that's supposed to be an introduction to the public. James Gunns Superman is exactly the superman we need and want. Actually saving lives being a good person and having the strength to keep moving forward. Plus this superman gets his powers then causes domestic terrorism then has a little back and fourth play fight with batman only to get capped in the next film then brought back as fanservice for the Justice League its Micheal Bay levels of awful storytelling

[@faith4657]

@KadenThornton-h8w How is he a war criminal? Pls tell me, cause a super powered being hell-bent and killing humans sounds better to you. Idk what you have against Martha, but she wasn't stressed. Yea, he wanted his son to keep his secret, and he was right on the money, but he also took his sons feelings into considered otherwise they wouldn't have had that talk. Like, come on now. Idk where you got that they only "praised him", cause the military still tried to keep tabs on him. Yea, cause that's her job she's a journalist, so it's bad that she's doing her job and actually doing pretty good investigation work? It really isn't a bad script. That sounds like a personal problem to me. That's not terrorism. Terrorism dictates they did it for political disagreement, which isn't the case. If you don't know beings with powers like these are going to break things. The scene in the first part with clark and zod was a moment of vulnerability for his mother being threatened, and metropolis had already been mega destroyed due to the world engine. Superman has killed before this isn't new, Superman doesn't have a kill code like batman he just generally doesn't kill ppl. Do you think it's bad that supes "killed" doomsday? Cause you forget that zod is just as strong as him and clark was literally restraining his neck and body, but this is laser EYES, not laser sockets. He can just turn his eyes which is what he does. He literally was forced to expose himself as Superman cause of zod he didn't even get a chance to save ppl outside of the war that Zod started. But that didn't stop him from saving ppl, though. And his saved ppl before even taking on the mantle. He does many things out of heart. Why would he have such a burning passion to help the weak if it wasn't due to heart 🤦. His down to earth, feels emotions like you're being very disingenuous here. Not true, Zack wanted Superman to be what he is but he wanted to see what he could do to make the character work for itself and see how their morals work, it's not cause of edge if you saw the passion he had when he explained it during the behind the scenes and the interviews with context for it. And there isn't just one version of Superman but many, some of their traits were taken to facilitate the so called "true" Superman you all know and love, but different eras and story and history say different. Not the reason, but you completely missed the arcs both batman and Superman were undergoing. With a supess trying to do his best with the scrutiny of the world on him and a batman who lost his way. IDK what you were trying to cook with "fanfictionalized tyrants," but they are superheroes. I know the way they have being portrayed for decades cause i actually do my research and know that there isn't just one version of them but many, some of which who's traits are used on the current ones. Zack wasn't trying to muddy the water but show these guys in the way different from the safe moral place of the comics. They aren't to be elseworlds and be main sure, but they were also there to show these guys in a new light, which many were open to. OK what James Gunn is doing for those who craved the same reeves supes (despite many differences) and just wanted the same thing not faulting you but don't try to use it against me cause I think different. That's exactly what Zack was trying to show. That you can save ppl, and even though you are in a dark place, you can rise and keep moving forward. If you simplify it like that, of course it will look shit. Anything will. Not a terrorist like I said above, brought back cause his needed not cause of fan service. But overall, we just view it differently, no need to get heated over my different take.

[@KadenThornton-h8w]

@@faith4657 Ain't no way I'm reading this fr you Snyder junkies need a life point still stands He didn't read or learn any of the source material to actually make a decent DCU

[@faith4657]

@KadenThornton-h8w Didn't read it even though I read yours and then devolved to insult me. OK, I was just making my point, I have a life, and it's not all about snyder. He did otherwise this version wouldn't take so many traits from the new 52 and pre crisis Superman. Any way good bye.

[@kenstermcnine071]

Heresy!

[@Thebluemonkey69]

Man of steel is a movie i enjoyed watching but try judge it in terms of writing it crumbles

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Andrew Garfield 🤝 Henry cavill Eran buenos actores que trabajaron en un lugar muy malo

[@kev_7731]

Y todavía la gente sigue sin entender , acaso sabes que era una deconstruccion?

[@matthodgkinson2003]

Off-topic SK, but I think you may want to check out Grace Randolph's Sonic 3 review at some point. She implies she thinks Shadow is a child predator 😂 I'm not kidding

[@s.k.4289]

Oh god

[@fourth1000]

The scene of Clark being disobedient of saving the kids on the bus is a prep to his obedience of when his father dies

[@vlogily8043]

Personally think u shoulda started at Green Lantern lol

[@om58499]

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