2021 Trek Slash | Test Ride & Review | Vs. Enduro & Stumpjumper Evo

I was able to head up to Highland Mountain bike park and put one of the brand new Trek Slash 9.8 XT's through it's paces. They now have them at highland available for Demo/rental through Goodales Bike Shop. Let me know if you have any questions in the comments I'll try to answer the best I can.
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My Specialized Sworks Enduro Review Vs. my Yeti SB-150 as mentioned in the Vid:
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Vittoria Mazza tire review as mentioned in the Vid:
• Vittoria Mazza Review ...
#2021trekslash #projectnortheast #trekslash

[@jonathanmatthews4774]

Thank you for a proper review (ie, taking the bike down some proper gnar). I've watched MANY youtube reviews of this bike and there seems to be a common theme 1) Just standing there reviewing the bike specs (which I can do myself from reading the Trek slash webpage) 2) or taking this bike down some weak ass green flow trails You actually rode some proper gnar and worked the bike AND Talked about whether you'd buy it with your own money. This is much appreciated.

[@Projectnortheast]

Thanks man! That's exactly what we were going for. We wanted to ride these bikes like they were our own bikes and ride the stuff we normally ride to see if we would want the slash for ourselves as our local shop and mountain picked them up so we wanted to see what they could do. We definitely weren't disappointed.

[@jonathanmatthews4774]

@@Projectnortheast I think that's what most reviewers miss when they review a bike. "Would we buy it?" The conversation at the end helped make this the most "real" review I've seen. Keep up the great work!

[@brandonian6940]

First person test drive review of this bike. I finally found the perfect video. Thanks for showing us.

[@TorieDH]

I got my slash after seeing you guys riding it. No regrets here.

[@Projectnortheast]

Goin on 2 years for me. I think the biggest thing is keeping the rear shock fresh to keep that plush feeling as it does go away as the seal and oil wears...

[@fab882]

This channel deserves more subs

[@Projectnortheast]

Thanks man, putting the work in hopefully it grows sometime! Spread the word!

[@christopherbisbee5067]

Yes

[@andrewebb8043]

I picked up a Slash this past fall and I concur it is a BEAST!. FYI factory setting the link is set to low.

[@leccy9901]

I have this bike, have got too agree, the slash is a beast. Cant wait for next years race season!

[@tebebiketok4950]

I also have Slash 8 2019. What do you think is the difference between 2019 and 2021?

[@leccy9901]

@@tebebiketok4950 mainly geometry to be honest. Feels more aggressive, and a better climber. 2019 is still a monster of a bike though

[@alextokmakoff6521]

8:00 I absolutely love fancy feast - it’s my favorite trail at highland actually even though it’s only a blue. Such good flow

[@dukeofmtb]

Now that I'm on the '21 Meta TR, I'm really missing the ABP on my old Remedy. I never had to worry about pedal kickback or the suspension locking up when braking over chunk. There's a compression after a slow speed roll at our "local" bike park that never bothered me before, but now it makes me lose my footing every time. Left ankle starts hurting after long days of riding too. I love the geo and build quality of the Meta, but I might consider getting the Slash for 2022.

[@Projectnortheast]

The slash blew me away and was the decision maker for me...

[@dukeofmtb]

@@Projectnortheast I bet it did. I would have kept the Remedy if the geo wasn't so dated. I feel more confident on steep technical stuff with the geo of the Meta, but I really miss the ABP for high speed chunk. I thought it was all marketing BS, but there's really something to it. A mullet slash with a steeper seat tube would be the dream though. 😍 Fingers crossed for 2022. 🤞

[@tebebiketok4950]

Seeing you guys shred on that bikepark makes me feel I disrespect my Slash by riding my local trails 😄

[@Projectnortheast]

Haha as long as your out having fun on a bike thats all that matters isn't it? 😉

[@tonykasunic1]

You all should have way more subscribers. Great review, solid riding video, thorough summary and analysis at the end.

[@Projectnortheast]

Thanks man! KZbin is tough and takes a while for organic growth if youtube doesn't push your content...

[@nicholas5396]

Great, now I have to demo a slash 😣. Hahah, all joking aside glad to see this review. In the market next season for something new and all the online mags have echoed you guys but you never know their motives. Sigh, now I have to add another to the list to try. Great job on the review and video once again, thanks for the continued NE content!

[@vieuxacadian9455]

I have a 2021 9.8 GX Slash in Battleship blue and love it . I did put a dab of loctite 242 on the bottle cage screws when I first got it home .

[@Alex-md6bu]

Good to see actual ride impressions rather than a brochure reading, comparing the spec issues with a top their model is a tricky one, if you had a 9.9 that was speced more similarly to the s works bike you are used to then it would come with the high speed compression adjustments, and most of your gripes with the suspension front and back are centred around air volume adjustments which given 6 days not 6 hours with the bike you would be able to figure out.... comparing a more mid range bike with a flagship one and then calling out spec issues isn't the manufacturers fault at all!!

[@Projectnortheast]

Well heres the thing... we were trying to find something we didn't like about the slash to give an honest review. I wasn't directly comparing my custom built sworks with spec of an XT trek. However you are mistaken on the suspension. The XT slash gets the same shock as the 9.9 which is the super deluxe. I dont think it was the issue for me, I think the only issue was the seemingly lighter weight tires and lack of inserts which again isn't a gripe just a preference. I mean, I have a slash on order if that tells you anything 😉

[@fluffymoi8101]

Nice now I'm stoked, can't wait for my frame to arrive, great review guys, actually loved it, not those boring reviews about techs and stuffs, you really rode it through some gnar

[@livefreeandshred9818]

Had fun on the new slash ! It’s fun to pick apart a new bike too

[@Projectnortheast]

After riding the enduro down the same trails tonight I'm sticking with how impressed I was with the slash

[@trkoo]

Nice set up with the sun right in the camera... I really enjoyed the review btw thank you for making a good vs. video

[@Projectnortheast]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@kyleo6384]

Great review of downhill applications! If this bike. Most are interested in how it can battle the more complex terrain and this literally shows it. This however is not a true enduro review as I don't think any actual pedalling occurred being lifted. I'll find out directly in a few days how it rides climbing and over obstacles. These guys know their geometry and differences in specs between bikes and parts. Thank you gents.

[@Projectnortheast]

Vs. Enduro is because I compared it to my current bike at the time... a specialized enduro. Not the discipline of enduro riding...

[@JaggedTusk]

Sweet video. I also ride a Stumpjumper Evo with Cascade Link and and air shock so it's interesting hearing your perspective on the Slash. I still feel like my Evo could use more mid stroke support and it's something I'll be looking for when I get a new bike. Thankfully the cascade link came out and fixed the rear suspension somewhat. It seems that the Slash may be more supportive in big hits and heavy compressions. That snack hole is also a nice bonus.

[@Projectnortheast]

Once you go in frame storage it's hard to go back! We were both really impressed with the rear suspension with just a few small refinements I think it would be one of the best I've ridden...

[@matesendurobike1089]

Hi. thanks for the vid and comments. What about the sizing. Wow tall are you and how did you feel on the M and ML bikes? I am about 170 cm (5,577 ft.) so what size would you recomend. Thanks a lot.

[@Projectnortheast]

I'm 5'10" and the M/L is perfect. My buddy is 5'8" and he felt the med was spot on...

[@jagerbombed2725]

Best review ever!

[@javierbusch7251]

Hi, awesome video and riding, could you go deeper into how it compares with the Enduro? I have an S-Works frame on order but with the delays I might change it for a Slash so curious to hear your opinion. Thanks

[@Projectnortheast]

The slash is more fun I think. The enduro is more DH and planted on the ground. The slash plows equally as well I think but is also extremely lively and pops off stuff with little effort. Overall I think its a better bike overall. The enduro is an awesome bike I've loved mine and will be riding mine well into 2021, but I do have a slash on order... 😉 I am also supported by a trek shop but I was seriously worried going from the enduro to the slash ... until I rode it

[@javierbusch7251]

@@Projectnortheast thanks for the response, I tend to go for more of a planted DH bike style ride since that's my background and at my age (40) I don't go for big jumps anymore, that's what got me to order the Enduro in the first place but Slash has always being a top bike for me too. I called some shops but they are telling me December of 2021 for new Slash now so I'm probably going to start with Enduro as of now

[@Projectnortheast]

@@javierbusch7251 I mean you really can't go wrong with the enduro it's a great bike. I'm 40 as well, but have been hitting the biggest stuff in my life the past couple years. I've always preferred a playful bike, but if your looking for a plow sled the enduro is killer...

[@javierbusch7251]

@@Projectnortheast awesome, thanks for your time, it's going to come down to which one I can actually get first since everything is so delayed.

[@andrecirmon3070]

man keeeeep it up great vid

[@andrewross219]

Any chance you've tried it on some trails systems that are not a bike park? Curious how playful it can be on the weekdays when I can't take a trip to a mountain or bike park.

[@Projectnortheast]

Sorry no its the only chance we had to demo. I ended up ordering one but it won't be here for months and it'll be spring before I can trail ride it. I do think its gonna pedal ok for trails but I've never been a one bike kinda guy I always like to have a short travel rig as well

[@andrewross219]

@@Projectnortheast that's fair. If I can keep my Roscoe 8 for weekday riding I'm not as concerned. I just want to have a damn good time lol

[@Sharkytech]

hey man! great review and nice riding! could you tell me how you feel about the yeti sb150 vs the slash? thanks !

[@Projectnortheast]

Thanks! I feel like the yeti and the slash are very similar geometry wise but I think the suspension characteristics are slightly different. Both perform awesome but one thing I noticed alot vs any bike previously is the active braking pivot that works really good and was surprised how good it worked on the slash when coming up to those bike park braking bumps. I think the trek overall somehow is poppy and playful but yet still planted in situations like that. The yeti is great but feel the new slash edges it out now that the sb150 suspension design is a few years old

[@the_vids]

Great review! The bike sounds great! Just want to know about the "if not racing" part? Is it just about the parts, like lower spec fork, or does the frame and linkage also fall apart? I know trek sometimes have some bolts losen for no reason?

[@Projectnortheast]

So our comments about not racing is if you wanted to ride the thing right out of the box and do nothing to it. Its an awesome bike as is... but we felt if you want that competitive edge for racing tire inserts were a must (no bike comes with them though) and definitely needs beefier tires like a 2 ply tire etc. And yes possibly a higher end fork and possibly some tuning of the rear shock. I have to say though we were very critical in this area as we usually custom build our bikes to meet our needs so its no surprise we would want to change a few things. Overall though we thought the bike was seriously spec'ed very well... but kinda like we were reaching for something to complain about 😅

[@the_vids]

@@Projectnortheast thanks for answering! That clears it up. I agree as well, like on most bikes, i usually only buy the frame and build.

[@austinpierce6053]

Great video! So should I get this over the new 2021 Stumpy EVO?

[@Projectnortheast]

My buddy in this vid that has an evo currently was blown away by the slash so... I dunno maybe ride both if you can... but can't think of a reason you'd be disappointed by the slash

[@austinpierce6053]

@@Projectnortheast is this the new EVO you're talking about? It's pretty different from the previous model. I'm not invested in either idea. But the things that sell me the EVO on my rational brain are that I can get an S-Works frameset for waaay cheaper than I can the Slash, it's more adjustable, lighter, and has a better storage compartment. I've also seen stuff about the Trek's rubber cable inserts and whatnot coming loose. 🤷‍♂️

[@Projectnortheast]

@@austinpierce6053 my buddy @livefreeandshred is on a 2020 so not the brand new version of the evo. But, he does have it set up with the cascade link etc. And ohlins coil shock and its dialed as he used to race MX and is very good at suspension set up and like I said he was blown away by the riding characteristics of the slash as was I... but what it always comes down to is whats best for you in the long run. If your here in the northeast I would say get to Highland and demo a slash for yourself if you can!

[@FirstPrinciplesFitness]

Hey guys, great review! I just rented the 9.8 at highland yesterday. SAME first impressions. When you hit a jump, you just FLY! With that said, I realized how much air was in the tires. How much of that pop was due to the high air pressure vs the bike linkage/suspension? I only ask because I took the air down to 20/22 (where i normally ride) and it lost some pop. Thoughts? Thanks!!!

[@Projectnortheast]

No difference really. I mean, air pressure in your tires is not going to cause the bike to pop. What you were feeling was just sluggishness from having too little PSI in the tires after you let some air out. I would never run that low PSI when riding highland even remotely aggressive, it's just asking for a broken rim or atleast a pinch flat. Ryan and I both ran our usual pressures in the tires as we normally do when riding highland which is around 25 front and 29-30 rear.

[@FirstPrinciplesFitness]

@@Projectnortheast Thanks! Curious now. I have inserts in my current bike. Even with inserts you think 20/22 is too low? or just for park its too low? Thanks!

[@Projectnortheast]

@@FirstPrinciplesFitness for technical park trails and DH yes its pretty low even with inserts prolly fine for general trail riding. Even with an insert I run 25/29-30 cuz when your racing you really don't want a flat or damaged rim

[@JLambinator]

Nice review! I found the Slash to be really poppy as well. Pretty agile bike. Biggest issue with it for me, that I didn't hear you mention, is how slack that STA is. At 6'2" it's just too slack for trail riding/climbing. Bummer.

[@Projectnortheast]

I didn't mention it because it doesn't bother me at all and didn't notice a difference between my last 3 bikes and the slash in that regard. I would say the slash still climbs better. My kindof riding with the slash is not trail riding... thats what a fuel EX is for. My slash goes 2 directions, up, and down. It's not a trail bike it's a burly enduro bike made to ride mountains

[@JLambinator]

@@Projectnortheast fair enough. In AZ we have a lot of undulating terrain. Punchy tech climbs with gnarly decents. Causes a lot of guys to push their Enduro bike into trail bike use.

[@Projectnortheast]

@@JLambinator so, I've ridden a ton in AZ and completely understand where your coming from. I would argue this... what is the gnarliest stuff your riding in AZ? Sedona? SoMo? Mt Lemmon? As I've ridden all those areas on 67 degree HA bikes and would argue nothing in those areas really warrants more than a Fuel EX with an oversized fork and piggy back shock and would make for a spritely brawler. I personally love my slash I think it climbs great and at 6'2" I would think you'd be on a large for sure. Have you test rode one? and what else are you looking at? Pivot I'm assuming since it's local?

[@JLambinator]

@@Projectnortheast All those areas. And I agree, I've ridden them all on a Ripley, no problem. Sedona is slow tech mostly, although pretty steep sometimes, so while the extra travel can smooth stuff out, it's not needed. As you know, SoMo can be ridden on a hard tail, but it depends on whose rear you're trying to stick to. Natty and Geronimo runs can be fast through the chunck if the bike allows, and there are some lots of bonus lines, some that are big booters and drops on Natty, 24th etc that are too much for smaller travel bikes. At least for my skill. I've only been mountain biking for about 4 years, but come from a dirt bike background. Figuring out what I like... so far I generally like bikes between 480-490ish reach. (475 and 495 have felt ok, but are on the far end of what I've liked). Steeper seat tube angles generally feel best when climbing, especially as the reach pushes past 490, since 650mm or longer TT feels a bit too long. I also really like a higher BB for the rocks out here... 345+ which can more easily be found on bigger bikes, but still the Wreckoning, Slash, Enduro are kinda rare with their higher BB's. I'd like to end up with lively 130-14o rear bike and an Enduro 29er. But, for example, I'm loading our MTB van, and the wife and kids and are taking the next 4 weeks or so to drive from Phoenix to Montana and back, and will ride along the way in Ut, ID and MT. That will include long peddaly days and lift access days.... so always looking for that one bike to take, since we already fill up the 7 bike velocirax we have!

[@JLambinator]

@@Projectnortheast Oh, to answer your question, my previous bike was a GG Megatrail, then GG Smash, Then Ripmo AF. Have demoed, borrowed or swaped with buddies the Ripley, Evil Offering, Kona Process 153, new RM Altitude, Norco Range, Niner Rip9. Very brief peddle on a Slash. I thought the GEO on the slashes looked great; higher BB, moderate CS, long but not ridiculous reach, short seat tube, low stand over. Just felt really slack STA when I sat on it. Heard it rides well. Could be wrong.... may need to try it on a proper ride. Interested in a few of the above, as well as the new Wreckoning, Nukeproof Mega, Canyon Spectral... I mean, geo charts and bike reviews are my toilet reading/watching so... ya know :)

[@lesio40000]

How about that seat tube angle ? Did You do some uphill riding ?

[@Projectnortheast]

Honestly not enough climbing to really give an objective review. It did feel more spritely than my enduro on the few small climbs

[@brookallen-brower3683]

great vid!

[@-ethan-]

I’m a year late, but awesome review! Love seeing you put it on some difficult trails. I’m considering buying a Slash 9.8. Half of my riding will just be trails (not steep). Do you think it’d feel too big and sluggish??

[@Projectnortheast]

What kind of stuff are you riding like what region and trails? The slash is fun but the way I have it built I use it primarily for enduro riding which is straight up and straight down. It does love tech trails as well... but pedaling is good but not as good as say a yeti

[@-ethan-]

@@Projectnortheast thanks for the comparison! Utah so mostly technical and not smooth. I shuttle often but consider 160mm/170mm suspension an “overbike” for my area.

[@Projectnortheast]

@@-ethan- gotya... I mean utah is pretty diverse depending on where you live. But I tend to get the bike best suited for the trails and discipline I prefer the most. No sense having a fast trail bike if your passion is enduro and no sense having a big sluggish enduro bike if your passion is trail riding... if you can only have 1 bike that is 😉

[@colbyblasenak1770]

What helmets you guys rocking? I'm in the market for a new one. Great video as always!

[@Projectnortheast]

Running the Troy Lee designs stage no complaints so far. Breathes very well

[@cflowers2541]

Did you say you were running 30 psi in the fork? If so how much do you weigh?

[@Projectnortheast]

No definitely not 30psi in the fork. 30psi in the rear tire. Which is why I was saying I need some rim inserts as even with 30psi I hit rim multiple times

[@richardseller3733]

Hey guys excellent review, been thinking about coming out to checkout Thunder. Where did you rent the bikes? We've been looking at Enduro bikes and this really has us interested.

[@Projectnortheast]

Goodales Bike Shop (Trek) has Demo bikes available for rent at Highland MTB Shop at Highland MTB Park. Just call the shop and you can rent a slash 9.8 XT or a slash 8 I believe...

[@richardseller3733]

@@Projectnortheast thanks and keep the great reviews coming. Was nice to hear review from someone that wasn't given bike to test. Your opinion changes drastically when paid even to rent or demo with your own hard earned cash.

[@Projectnortheast]

@@richardseller3733 truth be told we didn't pay for the demos we wanted to check them out as the shop we were supported by is now a trek store and we wanted to try the slash before we committed... I didn't expect to like it more than what I'm running now...

[@AfnaanQureshi]

Still waiting on mine to arrive lol

[@Projectnortheast]

My trek shop has a couple in stock... the 9.8

[@AfnaanQureshi]

@@Projectnortheast I ordered the 9.7 through Trek U in September

[@ThunderousProduction]

It looks like you had good traction with the SE5/4 tires, what did you find that was undesired and make you run Vittoria? Maybe try swapping the tires around, the 2.6 is superb on the rear for extra bottom out protection and then run the 2.4 up front. The G5 has the same pattern as the SE series tires but is available in a 2.5 which you may appreciate due to the downhill casing and a more point and shoot, less overall sidewall roll.

[@Projectnortheast]

Its hard not to have traction at highland right now. I am a vittoria fan because they are reliable and what I'm used to. Traction is great and they are pretty bombproof. I usually run a 2 ply tire as well so I'm used to alot more sidewall support.

[@dinngz]

Just purchased the Trek Slash 8 2021. Really looking forward to getting out on this bike... Is changing the tire's something that you would recommend?

[@Projectnortheast]

I dont think its absolutely necessary... I just referenced what I'm used to so I just like to stick with what works for me especially when racing

[@pierrebroccoli.9396]

Run the tyres down and then swap out for something else. I find the SE4 a bit squirrely on damp rocks and roots and lacks traction on loose climbs. The SE5 I don't like the lack of side transition knobs. On my 9.8 2019 Slash I went to a Magic Mary upfront and a Hans Dampf out back and I am much happier with these tyres for the tech slippery riding I do. Now riding -8 Centigrade in the forests round me on forest cutter paths and they are holding up really well and fairly controllable on the ice and snow covered roots, rocks and tree debris from the forest harvesters. The rear shock I livened up with a Meg Neg and the 36 Performance Fork I put a Luft Klappe in which woke it up. Now I have gone to a X01 drive train and not sure about upgrading the bike or sticking with it another season. The 2021 sounds like a good ride though.

[@Projectnortheast]

@@pierrebroccoli.9396 what was the difference the meg neg made?

[@pierrebroccoli.9396]

@@Projectnortheast On the Rockshox Reaktive Shock (thrushaft and valved) it added off the top response and better mid range support. Running 2 bands and 1 token. The rear end is much more responsive but I am thinking of pulling the Reaktive valve and just having the thrushaft like Trek have done with this years bikes.

[@Projectnortheast]

@@pierrebroccoli.9396 oh so your talking about the 2020 model? I haven't tried the 2020 model but from what I've read its a pretty big improvement...

[@Stockfish1511]

Slash is an animal and it has ten times better looks.

[@PatinaMisfit]

Awesome video guys!! How'd it pedal uphill?

[@Projectnortheast]

It pedaled like an enduro bike haha. But I feel like it pedaled slightly better than the enduro. But, I think if you put a bigger shock on or a coil it probably would lose that ever so slight pedal advantage. I would like to try the bike on some XC to get a better feel for its trail characteristics though but we didn't have time

[@klassyken]

Can you please explain for the viewers why you would want a 2.4 inch tire vs a 2.6 for this application ?

[@Projectnortheast]

Personal preference really. Big volume tires tend to feel like they are going to roll in corners at lower pressures to me, they also weigh more and have a higher rotational weight. I'm about to try a new 2.6" vittoria 2 ply enduro casing tire and I'll see how it goes.

[@trailonfire8581]

Nice!

[@chhau123]

I wish I could ride that good

[@Projectnortheast]

Keep at it! You can get there someday

Just checked...XT build with SLX brakes and 180mm rotors, not an XT build!

[@stevenjam7119]

the alum slash 8 with full gx and code R is a better deal lol

[@t406barnacle6]

does this bike jump very well or is it hard to get off of the ground?

[@Projectnortheast]

We cover that pretty well in the vid... we both felt it popped extremely well better than both of our current bikes. Very poppy and playful for a long travel rig

[@t406barnacle6]

Sick!! I want one now👌

[@mb7762]

Fuck i just ordered a 21’ enduro in S3 and i’m on the brink of 5’9 hope I don’t regret it.

[@Projectnortheast]

Nah you'll be good... I'm almost 5 10 and ran an s3 with 40mm stem

[@joshmarks3954]

Trek slash 8 or commencal meta Am essential?

[@Projectnortheast]

I'm Definitely partial to the slash. And the other guy in this vid had a meta and he loved the slash

[@joshmarks3954]

@@Projectnortheast hey thanks for the reply. Great riding by the way 🤘

[@guido6303]

Hy guys, i just ordered a slash 8 and i noticed it don't have a chain guide but yours got one instead. Do i need one? Which model do you suggest me to buy? Thx guys for your response.....

[@Projectnortheast]

I would say you need one on that bike. I really like the E13 guides as they make one you can put on without pulling the crank off

[@agentdoubleo7636]

Giant trance advanced ftw.

[@Projectnortheast]

not even in the same league... great bike.. not an enduro race bike though

[@pcgonzaga]

Fucking fast, dude 🤘

[@likeris2]

what size you guys are?

[@Projectnortheast]

I'm about 5'10" and my buddy is about the same at 5'9" but I think I have longer arms, so I prefer a M/L and he prefers a medium

[@likeris2]

@@Projectnortheast I am 177cm 5'10 but I riding in past giant reign S size 27.5 wheels. I never have riden 29 wheels.

[@Projectnortheast]

@@likeris2 You were riding a size small giant reign?

[@likeris2]

@@Projectnortheast yes, but I have broken frame. so now I want this trek. I love how looks size M/L, but not sure how looks size M.

[@Projectnortheast]

@@likeris2 m/l sounds like the right size...

[@ottohemio]

How tall are you guys?

[@Projectnortheast]

I am 5'9 and 3/4 " Ryan is 5'7"

[@ottohemio]

@@Projectnortheast thanks! Trying to decide between m and m/l at 5'11

[@Projectnortheast]

@@ottohemio I would say definitely M/L unless you have extremely short arms ;) That M/L is perfect for us guys that are just inbetween a Medium and a Large

[@ottohemio]

@@Projectnortheast sorry m/l and l😅

[@Projectnortheast]

@@ottohemio Ah, gotya. Then I would just compare your current bikes reach and Effective top tube lengths and compare... unless you feel your on the wrong size bike now...

[@tadams1150]

Got the slash, cannot backpedal in lowest heart without horrendous failure, trek doesn’t seem to care though apparently it happens on all their bikes...

[@Projectnortheast]

Huh by lowest are you saying the biggest rear cog? So like with an eagle drive train the 52 tooth? Or are you talking the hardest gear at 11 tooth?

[@livefreeandshred9818]

That just happens on sram eagle.

[@pjsanab]

Hardtail Party reviewed a bike with Shimano drivetrain that everytime he back pedaled it, shifted 3 cogs down. Is this what you experiencing?

[@robbierolly453]

The bikes a dud had mine 2 weeks broke in half and trek customer service is rubbish i hav to wait 6 months for new frame and wont refund cash..never again..pice of shit thats wot I get for buying Chinese bike

[@livefreeandshred9818]

Now this is a funny comment

[@JoeJoe-C137]

How did the frame snap?

[@josemelendez6860]

Carbon fiber?