Complaints Chinese Girls Have About Foreign Guys - Intermediate Chinese - Chinese Audio Podcast

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Күн бұрын

What are behaviors some foreigners display in China that Chinese girls really dislike? Eileen and Gwen look at this question!
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@anasmirza346
@anasmirza346 3 жыл бұрын
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@quyenbao4541
@quyenbao4541 3 жыл бұрын
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@whimzycloud
@whimzycloud 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like often times rather deviant behavior is passed off as "foreign culture" even though it wouldn't be acceptable in that persons home country.
@venture.brothers
@venture.brothers 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. And all the foreign guys in the comments saying "we're not all like that!"
@stepahead5944
@stepahead5944 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@ericlu8089
@ericlu8089 3 жыл бұрын
That first story pissed me off. That guy was just taking advantage of the situation, or clueless that he may be leading her on.
@chrisschill9222
@chrisschill9222 3 жыл бұрын
Which behaviour exactly would not be acceptable in that persons home country?
@JBfan88
@JBfan88 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisschill9222 Talking about sex in front of colleagues is likely to get you a sexual harassment charge or at least hostile work environment in the US. Repeatedly pursuing a virgin for "no strings attached" sex would be scummy. So would directly asking a colleague if they masturbate.
@NHockerJazz
@NHockerJazz 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a different culture for sure, but I think the important lesson to takeaway (especially from the story about British guy) is that putting more effort into clear communication is needed, not the opposite. The girl found an immature guy, and then got horrible advice online. “Don’t ask” is not the norm in the west, in fact, there is no norm, it just depends on the maturity of the people. Not her fault. When you communicate your intentions from the start and talk openly as you go, that transcends most cultural boundaries, even in China.
@ancientsounds6989
@ancientsounds6989 3 жыл бұрын
I agree . I think the woman needs to ask the right questions to sift out what kind of stones are in a man's heart ; could be precious gems or plutonium .. Sometimes a man's mind might be corrupted by bad influences if so then she has to decide whether she can live with that or somehow help him to see what sort of person he really is . If the man is not “斯文” and does not show love in all things to her then she should hide herself from the danger and deceit . If the man has no intention of starting a fire for a purpose but just wants to burn wood then the woman should hide herself from the calamity and save both of themselves from the heart .
@COCO-bl4ig
@COCO-bl4ig 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, her friends sounds terrible. I wonder how old these people are? I would never give this kind of advice to anyone.
@Kefka2010
@Kefka2010 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think the only people in the wrong are the people discouraging communication. Outside of that I don't see any issue with either dating culture.
@SKTanRivera
@SKTanRivera 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed with Hocker. Open communication is the key to success in any relationship.
@Mithril_Antimarr
@Mithril_Antimarr 11 ай бұрын
In many western countries there is the concept of having 'the talk' to define the relationship around the time the relationship becomes intimate, so I found that 'don't ask' comment very strange.
@hapmondays
@hapmondays 3 жыл бұрын
Here in the US, any male who made comments about "touching oneself" in a workplace setting or even with outside of work with co-workers could be charged with sexual harassment. HR would need to intervene and he would have to do harassment training to learn to respect women in the workplace. Even in casual situations, his comments could be deemed inappropriate and end up with a drink in his face. I think some Western guys in China are extra cavalier in their behavior because none of their family or regular friends are around so they can embarrass themselves all they want and most likely they'll eventually go back home so if you look like a creep to people, who cares, it won't matter.
@RiDankulous
@RiDankulous 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's very unacceptable behavior in the US.
@hvuu1628
@hvuu1628 3 жыл бұрын
@@RiDankulous and yet it still happen and a norm behavior in the US.
@RiDankulous
@RiDankulous 3 жыл бұрын
@@hvuu1628 It's not the norm.
@user-iy3gx9qg4y
@user-iy3gx9qg4y 3 жыл бұрын
@@RiDankulous It is. You have to live exclusively online to pretend that people are that sterile at the workplace. It would be certainly inappropriate to treat sb without proper acquaintance, but once you know each other, people discuss all sorts of shit, serious or not. Grow the fuck up.
@manfunny917
@manfunny917 3 жыл бұрын
You are right, they are not western girls, so westerners dont care if creep is a western man. Another reason is many of the western men are actually managers, teachers and employers and the girls they abuse are workers, usually migrants. Their family is very far away, also many girls from previous generation dont have brothers to protect them. You will never see a western guy behave like that to an ethnic minority community, example in Yili and Kashi because they know that girls there have many brothers, who dont care about government policy to be nice to disrespectful foreigners and will beat up badly the western guys if they behave the same way as in big cities. Foreign guys know who to target
@thejams2810
@thejams2810 3 жыл бұрын
So interesting! Could you please do a "Complaints Chinese Guys Have About Foreign Girls" video. This would be really great :D
@PsychosisFire
@PsychosisFire 3 жыл бұрын
The showering in the morning thing is definitely true! I would feel kind of "stale" if I slept for a full 8 hours, jumped out of bed and then headed straight out of the door without washing. Although if I've done some kind of physically strenuous activity in the evening (going to the gym, cycling, being outside in hot humid weather, etc) then I will shower in the evening as well before bed, pretty much all the foreigners I know are the same. I don't know any foreigners that would hit the gym for a full 90 minutes and then just head straight to bed all sweaty and gross without showering.
@sanciayuan8161
@sanciayuan8161 3 жыл бұрын
as a chinese, i feel morning shower is ok, and i like it too. but there are people just can't understand it
@jackr2290
@jackr2290 3 жыл бұрын
I shower morning and night, especially in China. Getting into bed after a day of being in pollution is gross.
@davycrockett8886
@davycrockett8886 3 жыл бұрын
As a foreigner I find some Chinese things much closer to my style. I can only understand showering at night. I can't actually sleep easily without a shower.
@kvcp
@kvcp 3 жыл бұрын
As someone with super curly hair, i have to shower in the morning.. unless you want me looking like i just walked through a tornado in order to find my witch coven. I don't shower at night cause going to bed with wet hair is kind of annoying, although i will. if i feel gross. Curly hair should be air dried which takes hours, applying heat can cause damage.
@smoothbanana
@smoothbanana 3 жыл бұрын
@@kvcp didn’t know that, thanks for sharing!
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@Sorrynametaken
@Sorrynametaken 3 жыл бұрын
Spicy food is found across many cultures, but it is primarily based on climate. Before refrigeration, cultures in hot areas used spices to cover the rotting meat smell/taste and became more accustomed to spices. The more tolerant you become to spiciness, the more "bland" non-spicy food becomes to your palate. People getting upset about someone liking or not liking a certain food is pretty ridiculous. The physical reality of whether a kind of food tastes good or bad to you isn't a moral failing or a virtue.
@mattheweveland8335
@mattheweveland8335 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure where this is coming from. Mostly it's just where these plants were indigenous that determined where they were most popular, with the exception of chili peppers, which were exported from the Americas to pretty much everywhere. People have certainly come up with a lot of theories as to why such things became popular, from medicinal affects to preventing or slowing spoilage, but most still concede folks likely just enjoyed the taste. As for covering the taste or smell of spoiled meat though, people actually had a much simpler solution to that: keeping live animals. Chicken, it turns out, does not spoil too quickly when the chicken is still alive.
@comitatocentrale2022
@comitatocentrale2022 2 жыл бұрын
The spices used to cover rotting taste is definitely a myth. Since spices were expensive it would have been the rich people using them, and rich people definitely didn’t eat rotten meat
@awesomebearaudiobooks
@awesomebearaudiobooks 2 жыл бұрын
@@comitatocentrale2022 In the past, everyone was eating rotten meat, both poor and rich, because in the past there were no refrigerators and the meat couldn't be contained for long. In fact, there are places in the world where people consider rotten meat as the tastiest (Iceland and some parts of Kazakhstan might be a good example). And yes, spices do cover the rotting smell. In fact, in many countries, even in Europe, it is legal to add rotten meat into mincemeat, because most of the pathogens that could cause illness can be killed with high temperatures, and the foul smell can be masked with spices.
@shatterquartz
@shatterquartz 3 жыл бұрын
This cultivated uncertainty about the stages of "dating" is really more of an Anglo-Saxon thing than one with Westerners in general, let alone all foreigners. In France, for example, it's very straightforward: once a kiss has been exchanged, you're a couple and you get to do couple things like staying at each other's places, meeting each other's parents, etc. And unless stated otherwise you're expected to be exclusive. It may be over in a week (and for it to be over one of the parties has to say so explicitly), but for that duration of time you're in a full-fledged relationship.
@RiDankulous
@RiDankulous 3 жыл бұрын
The French thing is good to be clear about the relationship. People understanding where they are in a relationship is very important.
@raevis9
@raevis9 3 жыл бұрын
I would say it is a scumbag thing... because yes, same here in Germany, usually a kiss seals the deal (though things are changing, so nowadays it often requires you to have to have a talk about it, lol, 'what are we?'). But of course there are some people who think they can just lie to others, claiming to have serious intentions, but once they got what they wanted they vanish... and that is easier to do if you are in a strange country, where no one even knows you and you don't ruin your reputation. I think this is really messed up.
@MandarinCorner2
@MandarinCorner2 Жыл бұрын
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@Kevinevin1345
@Kevinevin1345 3 жыл бұрын
Once again a really helpful video! Your videos are the best! Still, I'd like to add that there were shown extreme cases and the term "westerner" or "foreigner" is used in a really really broad sense. Some (or even most) of this behavior is unacceptable in my country for example, too. Nevertheless, not mad at all, just wanted to point it out. Thanks once again for helpful content!
@ulmo
@ulmo 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Gwen's sense of humor!
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@lovely-shrubbery8578
@lovely-shrubbery8578 3 жыл бұрын
I still feel like it would be considered impolite to talk like that in front of women, or about private relationships.
@thebrokenmystic879
@thebrokenmystic879 3 жыл бұрын
Even in America right? Exactly. Those foreigners just have no manners whatsoever.
@thebrokenmystic879
@thebrokenmystic879 3 жыл бұрын
She met a bunch of rude foreigners and made a general judgement that she now thinks means “how foreign men are”
@Sorrynametaken
@Sorrynametaken 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, who talks about the details of their sex life with an acquaintance from work, especially a man to a woman?
@nagihangot6133
@nagihangot6133 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebrokenmystic879 You're talking about her as if she lied and her experiences are not valid. Why don't you take a walk?
@nagihangot6133
@nagihangot6133 3 жыл бұрын
That's because your people are prideful and secretive. The rest of the world is mostly totally unlike you in this regard.
@StephenKane
@StephenKane 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video! Great synergy, and great for improving Mandarin listening and reading skills. Eileen, your interview skills improve with each video and you have the same infectious charisma you had 5 years ago, only more so. Gwen, you have a great sense of humor and add lots of value. Eileen and Gwen, you delivered a fun topic that made me want to see more videos with you two.
@mikeryan2319
@mikeryan2319 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video. Thank you. I am from Chicago and live in Taiwan. As for talking, yes, people, be direct. It saves time for your life. And, as for serious relationships, yes, you have to have a trial period to see if it is a good fit. This also saves you from wasting time in your life.
@anasmirza346
@anasmirza346 3 жыл бұрын
each and every video of yours has numerous and valuable leeson thanks a lot for yours efforts
@HiCy2012
@HiCy2012 4 ай бұрын
哈哈,很喜欢Eileen 的podcast。 这个话题聊得好有意思😂 确实,在国外和老外打交道各种担心,还是和中日韩的朋友交流舒服
@vince1012
@vince1012 3 жыл бұрын
Gwen is witty! Cultural differences make us better people in that we learn to tolerate others and love unconditionally
@tranoanlinhtue5231
@tranoanlinhtue5231 3 жыл бұрын
Those European men just wanna have fun with their short time living in China, like it's a new taste and a great experience, and what I known Europeans really love discovering and experiencing for sure. But we can choose who we gonna dated 'cause there always are good and bad pp all around the world 🌎
@JoeMcKenzie888
@JoeMcKenzie888 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, some men talk about women like dishes they wanna try. Hope these sexpats get a proper kick in the butt, lol
@nemuko777
@nemuko777 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. You don't know how much you're helping us
@gruntshuffle
@gruntshuffle 2 жыл бұрын
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@chinaprotefl8974
@chinaprotefl8974 2 жыл бұрын
我的女朋友(她是中国的,也来自黑龙江)也有这些两个抱怨:上床之前要洗澡,和要把内衣和外衣分开放在洗衣机里。关于第一个抱怨,我们西方人一般都觉得去上班或者出门跟朋友玩之前洗个澡比较重要,但是我们如果一天锻炼了或者因为其他原因出了一身汗也会睡觉之前洗个澡。反正,我觉得两个观点都有道理。 关于第二个抱怨,洗衣服的这个方面,我觉得不用管内衣和外衣放不放在一起,因为无论什么是不是衣服会洗得干净?外衣的脏不会印象内衣的干净!洗衣液体会保证这个结果。
@Expatriate_1972
@Expatriate_1972 Жыл бұрын
Interesting content. Some Chinese ladies observe Chinese dating conventions. There are also unspoken conventions where Chinese girls go for "lessons": English lessons, gym training, and swimming lessons as a front for sex sessions. The Chinese dating morality card has limits
@mariocarreiro7339
@mariocarreiro7339 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that a lot of these bad behaviors by foreign (western) guys are due to the fact that they are living in a country that is not their own and therefore have a more laid-back attitude regarding relationships. I'm a westerner (from Portugal) and I indentify much more with what you described as the chinese understanding of relationships. I'm sure chinese girls would have a much different experience if they were dating foreign guys in the west rather than dating them in China. Great video, keep up the good work Eileen!
@nagihangot6133
@nagihangot6133 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Portuguese!!! So you're saying that "bad behavior" from Western guys are because they're living in countries not their own so it's okay and expected of them to sleep around, like what you would do, since you are one? Yet, you say you "identify more with the Chinese understanding of relationships". Pick one. A man does not change because of entering a new place, the way a snake sheds its skin every few weeks.
@SpiritsBB
@SpiritsBB 3 жыл бұрын
@@nagihangot6133 In essence, you just said western guys are not allowed to criticize other western guys.
@histcolor602
@histcolor602 3 жыл бұрын
Great topic. I think the guys behaviour change with Chinese girls . It is possible that they feel more secure with them because chinese girls could be a little naive and they are curious about western cultures.
@BasedLink
@BasedLink 3 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people disagreeing in the comments but the truth is this is very common in the west. People have sex on the first date and there is no guarantee that it will lead to anything. Actually it's a bit refreshing to hear this perspective from a Chinese woman. Like they genuinely expect something more serious to develop after sex.
@LoLumpa
@LoLumpa 6 ай бұрын
我是法国人,这一集让我笑得很开心。再次感谢您度过了这个愉快的时刻😂😂
@Reformation2000
@Reformation2000 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with David, this analysis is too general and different foreign cultures have different etiquette for dating and relationships. There is also the consideration of religion and an individual's value system that could contradict their own general cultural norms. I never agreed with the promiscuous attitude of many Brits, even though I am a Briton. I am a Christian and many Christians have the same attitude towards sexual relations - best within a formal marriage (opposite sex).
@chrisgarner3714
@chrisgarner3714 3 жыл бұрын
Shower at night? That’s crazy! Hahaha….it is just a custom or habit or there is a practical reason. In America, many people do their hair before work and that involves washing it and drying it and then styling it. Most Asians have straight hair which is lower maintenance. I have curly hair. My hair will look crazy when I go to work if I don’t wash it and brush it in the morning. Also, it’s nice to go to work feeling clean and fresh. Clean body clean clothes and good hair.
@milosanchez9873
@milosanchez9873 3 жыл бұрын
昨天 我第一次学中文。 这channel是很好! 我喜欢这channel。 This channel is pure gold omg ! Sorry for my broken chinese 哈哈 Also i think the chinese dating culture is way better.
@acmelbourne
@acmelbourne Жыл бұрын
Amusingly interesting, I'm Australian even I didnt realise that other Westerners weren't showering at night - its a crazy person that is on the go all day then doesnt shower at night.
@superchinoise127
@superchinoise127 Жыл бұрын
I am French and my boyfriend is Chinese. Since we've started dating and moved in together, I change my shoes to slippers when I come home and even keep them on when taking a shower. I've always taken my shower in the evening so this hasn't been an issue. I wash our underwear and outwear (without shoes omg) altogether but we need to soak the underwear in disinfectant afterwards. I also put my suitcase on the bed but avoid the wheels touching it (we get inside the bed to sleep after all). I've always thought I was a clean person but it was nothing compared to him. I've changed my habits because I think there are more important things to fight about instead of "should I wear slippers in the shower or not"
@eddieraines2844
@eddieraines2844 Жыл бұрын
To me it doesn't matter where the woman comes from. Sex should not happen before marriage but especially before she understands the intention of the man. I am a traditional American and I believe in todays world the dating society is all backwards. The one thing that I like about asian culture is for the most part they have a fundamental truth about family. My country use to be that way. Now the younger women stopped being ladies and men stopped being gentlemen. Not all though.
@rogersea6529
@rogersea6529 3 жыл бұрын
BEST VIDEO SO FAR ! - good for learning but also SO FUNNY !!!
@krishnanithi6500
@krishnanithi6500 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Eileen for everything. You are greatly helping me to learn Mandarin. Your video's are very nice. Really appreciate the hard work you put in your video's.
@COCO-bl4ig
@COCO-bl4ig 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is a stereotype and you can't really group every foreigner the same that's borderline racism. It's just saying all Asians are the same. However I do believe these stories are true, I feel like most expats, people who are working abroad or is still travelling won't really want serious relationships. It's a time of excitement and adventure, why would you want to commit to any serious relationships? And I feel like the two foreign friends who gave the advice not to ask directly about relationship status isn't a cultural thing, that's just bad advice. I am Chinese Australian and never had that issue before when I was dating. I actually tell the guy what I want even prior to meet up so we don't waste each other's time. Never had a problem with being direct, in fact most guys I met prefer that. We respect each other's time and want to find someone who are on the same page. It is sad how the Chinese girl ended up wasting her time with that scumbag, but I seriously think healthier relationships are base on directness and honesty. If anyone fears of losing someone for asking a question then it's not the right relationship, that is a clear signal that it isn't right. From observation, people who says "See how things goes" even after weeks of dating then it just means they are not that into you. (that's from both genders and from various diff background and cultures)
@lecherhao86
@lecherhao86 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna add that the culture of 'western' dating is pretty similar to what we have in Singapore. Singapore is a melting pot of eastern and western culture. And the younger generation now treats dating as just hanging out with the person to judge and feel the compatibility. So I suppose even in an Asian country like Singapore, you can also experience the western style of dating. Just to share. Just to add on, we also throw the inner wear and other cloth into the washing machine. Haha.
@afen5252
@afen5252 3 жыл бұрын
Chinese people saying foreigners are dirty... So ironic. Most of the chinese people I know aren't really clean, they don't clean their home, they spit, and the way they eat is absolutely disgracious. I work in a chinese restaurant where half of my clients are Chinese, and even though I love them, I still apprehend cleaning their table after they leave. Most of the things you said are right, but that judgement about foreigners not being clean is just absolute nonsense.
@stalker21able
@stalker21able 3 жыл бұрын
Great content, Eileen, Thanks!
@jackuzzi5251
@jackuzzi5251 3 жыл бұрын
My biggest question is how do you eat a bone? Maybe Eileen can make a video of it.
@masterpost7793
@masterpost7793 Жыл бұрын
'Foreigner' is a broad term from Chinese perspective, but here in Denmark we consider the chinese standard to be dirty. Story: Twice I went home with a Chinese girl from the club, with weeks in-between, and realized that she had not changed the bed sheets. Showers or not that is disgusting in danish perspective - we change it weekly! also considering what we had done in that bed erhmm.... Furthermore her toilet had not been descaled for ages and looked filthy. I do remember her showering before bed, thinking "Why on earth shower when the bed isnt clean" LOL
@GeoScorpion
@GeoScorpion 2 жыл бұрын
There's a saying in America, "It'll all come out in the wash." I think Westerners have such faith in the washing machine's ability to clean that we think it doesn't matter what goes in together, dirty: Everything will come out perfectly clean, anyway! :)
@GeoScorpion
@GeoScorpion 2 жыл бұрын
We separate based on the effect hot or cold water will have on the material of the cloth, itself, or on whether some clothing (colorful) will damage other clothing (whites).
@daviddixon9207
@daviddixon9207 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is unfair to lump all foreign guys in the same category. You mentioned the Turkish guy who was dirty. Most American and European guys would also be repelled by his behavior. Standards of cleanliness vary between countries.
@nighthawk2634
@nighthawk2634 20 күн бұрын
Ive dated many Chinese and Asian women I found my Beijing ex girlfriend hard to get an answer from what we were unlike what was mentioned here. Each should say early on so each understands and doesnt get misled
@notpoggamer
@notpoggamer Жыл бұрын
I feel that all of these things western way is crazy… WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?!?! so weird and unclean
@derekeano
@derekeano 3 жыл бұрын
I love this! Great video!!! It’s so interesting and funny! And I’m learning a lot!!!
@olenievart
@olenievart 2 жыл бұрын
Good channel, good informative videos. Thank you.
@rasheed2chemist
@rasheed2chemist 3 жыл бұрын
It's a valuable in understanding Chinese life.
@trotgun1563
@trotgun1563 Жыл бұрын
The way Chinese have true respect for their relationships is a large reason why western men like Chinese women so much . western woman do not hold the male/female relationship to the same standards ! i agree sex should be between two people who care for each other , not between complete strangers !
@Erik_Escriche
@Erik_Escriche 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! Your content is really interesting and useful.
@saintjohnno
@saintjohnno 3 жыл бұрын
Of course theres going to be differences ? So both really do need to compromise and allow for that... Dont forget ' mother nature often has a say in the way relationships progress. Nothing wrong with a fwb relationship if it so happens that way. ? Following your tradition is one thing and your heart is another..
@sumireravenclaw8034
@sumireravenclaw8034 2 жыл бұрын
Gwen's English, Omg, it was so freaking cute!
@Mithril_Antimarr
@Mithril_Antimarr 11 ай бұрын
It is important to note that casual dating (without assumed exclusivity [as boyfriend / girlfriend] and without the assumption that it will lead to marriage) is not something that all westerners would be comfortable with so please do not judge all western men based on this behaviour. IF you find yourself in a confusing relationship with a western man it is absolutely fine to ask can I call you my boyfriend? If he answers no we are just friends or FWB, you are fine to ask if he sees the relationship changing to boyfriend / girlfriend in the near future, if he says no and you want a serious relationship that will probably lead to marriage, end that relationship as he is just wasting your time.
@Naeinsengimnida
@Naeinsengimnida 3 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest if you meet a guy who still "'dates" after 30 years old, he is not looking for a wife but someone to fill his (greedy-sexual) needs. If you fall for a guy like that you're as immature as he is. Everything happens for a reason, learn from it. Communication is the key no matter the culture. There is no need to start a sexual intercourse to read through someone, i think that's the first mistake people often do is following lust instead of their brain, that's why they end up disappointed because their projections were not real. Stop wishing someone to be the person you wish them to be.
@Meylan191083
@Meylan191083 2 жыл бұрын
British guy in China's perspective on the first part of this. 1: 'Dating' has three meanings. The first is the same as the Chinese understanding of term. If a guy says of a girl 'we are dating' the general interpretation of that structure is that they are in a formal relationship. The second is an activity designed to find a potential boyfriend/girlfriend, but the third is to describe a process where a person (usually a guy but not exclusively) goes out socially with people because they enjoy it and because they want to have fun (read: have sex). A previous comment on here mentioned maturity in the context of the guy the Chinese girl asked for advice about. I would echo some of that. A certain type of guy will react to the direct question in a negative way but that is more about their level of maturity (or lack thereof). Others (and I am one) would actually expect that at some point there is a conversation about where the relationship is at. Generally a guy who gets annoyed at what is a perfectly logical question should probably be avoided anyway. That said, if you start talking about marriage, house, kids early in the relationship the guy might consider THAT to be far too soon. 2: Sex is not simply an expression of commitment. It can be. There are many British guys who see it as such but in a general sense, sex is as much a manifestation of physical desire as it is of emotional connection or commitment. Sexual liberation happened in the UK a long time ago and so we usually do not have such a narrow definition to it. People like it and do not consider it to be intrinsically linked to marriage. 3: I hear a lot that 'western guys talk about their girlfriends'. I have never considered the sexual aspect of a relationship to be anyone's business but the participants and so while I and my friends would talk about our girlfriends/wives, I cannot recall an instance where what goes on in the bedroom formed part of that. Moreover, a lot of guys would actually be quite put off by another bringing 'the lurid details' into a conversation. Younger (less mature) guys MIGHT, but the ones I know consider it bad form to talk about their girlfriends that way. The guy who asked if the guest touched herself and other things about her relationships or lack of them I suspect was on a fishing expedition. I am not from Argentina so it might be different, but to me it sounds like the guy was gearing up to try his luck.
@吉米-f9w
@吉米-f9w 3 жыл бұрын
showering at night makes a lot of sense, I might do it from now on 🙂
@derekeano
@derekeano 3 жыл бұрын
28:39 I had this habit in America. After living in China, I shower twice a day. I noticed that after going outside, especially after riding a bike or ebike with my skin exposed to the air, I feel a lot dirtier here. In America the air is cleaner so we shower less. That’s my guess.
@littlelady7843
@littlelady7843 Жыл бұрын
It is a fact, the air in China especially in big cities are heavily polluted. People have to wear masks outside to avoid breathing in dust and pollutants.
@miguellossantos2990
@miguellossantos2990 3 жыл бұрын
Eileen, thanks for this video.
@WisdomofMindBody
@WisdomofMindBody Ай бұрын
Hi, I want to tell you that not all Western women prefer "dating" as defined by your definition. In fact, many females have the same question as the Chinese female, feeling confused and wanting to know if the man is just playing for fun, ie sex and hanging out or will offer her more as in a boyfriend relationship. But they dont ask for what they want because they are afraid of guy running away. So, this leads to a long time of just being friends who sleep together. In my opinion, it is not that all Western women like this setup. I think many women are just too afraid to ask the question. And many already know the answer or man has told her his answer is just friends with benefits but she doesn't have the self love or strength to leave. So, overtime, many younger people are not in relationships but just friendship with benefits.
@OnyxNyxie
@OnyxNyxie 3 жыл бұрын
不管如果你是中国女人或者外国女人,所有女的受不了脏的男朋友。我们是法国来的。我和我男朋友六年住在一起, 但是他还不明白行李从来不会放在床子上。他 每次让我炸掉。:'D
@annulrsolformrkelse4023
@annulrsolformrkelse4023 3 жыл бұрын
How do you clean your rags if you don't throw them in the washing machine?
@benniboi13
@benniboi13 3 жыл бұрын
So do Chinese people wash their underwear and other clothes separately? Like they'll do a whole load with just underwear?
@karenavocado344
@karenavocado344 3 жыл бұрын
My parents are Chinese and yes we separate them. It seems dirty to wash them together, although funny enough they all should end up clean, right? My parents also separate pillowcases since my mom doesn’t want to mix “the oil from our hair” with other clothes.
@cd7856
@cd7856 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t laugh……. Generally speaking, yes
@simon8413
@simon8413 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Eileen, as usual!
@MrRomanrin
@MrRomanrin 3 жыл бұрын
most of the video was just "SEX TALK" about how china is kinda "cautios" about sex stuff and everyone is shy and embarassed to talk about that. and such. XD not many complaints from the chinese girls. just how foreigners are more open to talk about that...
@IntermediateChinese
@IntermediateChinese 3 жыл бұрын
谢谢你的视频。发音很清楚。我经常把你的视频推荐给我的学生。😊👍
@yukiigarashi4170
@yukiigarashi4170 3 жыл бұрын
这个频道提高我的听力能力,学习中文我们还学海无涯。
@LostBunga
@LostBunga 3 жыл бұрын
I think foreign women talk about sex too openly. Most dudes tend to keep it fairly discreet.
@luciesolcova6776
@luciesolcova6776 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't understand why so many Chinese girls long so much to date foreign guys. I have many female Chinese friends who ask me constantly if I know some handsome foreign guy to meet. They idea of foreigners (God knows why) is that all foreign men are rich, handsome and most importantly romantic! And I mean what is actually their expectation? Do they want to merry a foreigner? Or do they just want to try how it is dating foreigner? And about the personal hygiene. I really don't know anyone who don't take shower in the night after long day. But different cultures different habits. On the other hand, you Chinese guys are so crazy about being clean but don't mind throwing rubbish everywhere. Maybe not in the big cities, but smaller cities, towns and villages are different story. Even one of Eileen's videos was from her home village where she showed the ''mountain'' of rubbish thrown partly in the local stream...
@yatube89
@yatube89 3 жыл бұрын
would you be able to provide the chinese subtitles for the videos ?
@ryanshiflett2178
@ryanshiflett2178 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the characteristics mentioned in this video apply only to western European/North American males, and even then, a lot of western guys still prefer to date the traditional way. Many of these statements are based on stereotypes. If you travel to Latin America, which is more socially conservative than the 'West', many couples date with the intention of getting married one day. I am half Latino and have been dating a Chinese woman for five years. We match because our values and expectations are similar to one another. I wish Chinese people would not put all foreigners in a single description, because we are so different - but then again, other countries do the same to Chinese and Asian people in general.
@outdoorscholar6016
@outdoorscholar6016 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that the girl in the first example was getting played, and she should have been direct about asking him (western netizens always talk about how communication is key in a relationship). No one who’s serious about a relationship goes on 5 dates, does the dirty deed, and still doesn’t know where they stand. That British boy was a total 海王 As for the differences, My personal opinion is I think it comes down to whether or not the 2 parties want to casually date or seriously date. And having taught in China for a few years now I believe it’s always serious dating, nothing casual about it.
@a.mo7a
@a.mo7a 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly... I blame the TV shows for that lol.
@JasonEyermann
@JasonEyermann 3 жыл бұрын
Great, another one so soon.
@Fantastic418
@Fantastic418 2 жыл бұрын
"how can you survive" 😅
@MikhailGoncharov-tl4cr
@MikhailGoncharov-tl4cr 3 жыл бұрын
Please recommend a book on Chinese history for me. In plain Chinese. Not in literary Chinese. In mandarin or canton
@songshancat6554
@songshancat6554 3 жыл бұрын
Plus wearing a sports jacket with nothing on underneath was already considered a bit rude, even in 1980s Miami.
@RiDankulous
@RiDankulous 3 жыл бұрын
I think the pink jacket with white T-shirt should come back some day, or the lighter colors in general, at least for temperate areas.
@MrRomanrin
@MrRomanrin 3 жыл бұрын
OMG THE CAR/DRIVER THINGY hahahaha never heard of it but it does make sense
@thebrokenmystic879
@thebrokenmystic879 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to add the foreigners she mentioned are nothing like me, not everyone is the same. For instance if I had a Chinese girlfriend willing to help me clean I would love that. I feel this is just her general observation but it can’t represent all foreigners.
@angelolau4393
@angelolau4393 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah she’s just racist against foreigners.
@angelolau4393
@angelolau4393 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry man 😊
@ainaalberti3647
@ainaalberti3647 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more!
@andersjohansson1889
@andersjohansson1889 3 жыл бұрын
Something strange at 32:58 in the subtitles "jubao", shouldn't it be baoyuan - 抱怨 ? Thanks for 250 new words, by the way.
@MandarinCorner2
@MandarinCorner2 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Darcy! That is a mistake. The pinyin should be "bao4 yuan4".
@samsam0205
@samsam0205 3 жыл бұрын
总结得太好了!可是如果想和平愉快地相处,就只能接受和忍受,毕竟这是文化差异。自己维持自己的习惯,尽量不到扰对方。习惯晚上洗澡,进屋换鞋,不把行李箱放床上的话,自己继续做到就好了。
@joshboston2323
@joshboston2323 3 жыл бұрын
such an enjoyable episode this one.
@fh8929
@fh8929 3 жыл бұрын
我有机会和一个中国女人约会。 我觉得有两大的问题:第一个是语言沟通问题。中文不是我的母语,我是南美洲男的,我的中文水平不太好,这位中国女人觉得有点儿麻烦跟我用中文说。所以我们说英文,可是我英文说得比她的好所以我觉得有点儿麻烦 哈哈 但是没问题我非常气喜欢她。第二个是性别的情况,有的男的肯定只要啪啪啪不要做男朋友所以有的女人会觉得这位男的要跟她结婚但是不是这样的!还有在我们的时代越来越多人不要结婚和生孩子。可是在第一个约会这个主题当然不太常见的!!Eileen 你又棒又美又温柔。 多谢你的视频,是网路上最好学习中文的材料。我发送了捐款 用PayPal非常简单,加油!!
@johnwang5547
@johnwang5547 3 жыл бұрын
8:00 "both parties have usually the expectation that dating will lead to marriage" "otherwise they would not have even started". Honestly, I wish it would be like that in the west. But with the American-influenced culture it all went to hell. People are wasting their time by chasing holes, living in shallow relationships pretending to be happy, while they know that in a few years they'll throw each other out into the trash and move on. Like an animal that constantly moves from one place to the next because it can't devote its attention. Humans in the west are closer to animals. I'm sure you could underpin that with a few statistics on the rate of divorces in the west vs. the east but I can't bother. I have deep respect for eastern culture. It's honest, respectable, honorable. Things that have been lost in the west. I hope Asia doesn't change too fast, as I already see many influences from the west.
@Adi-xs5dw
@Adi-xs5dw 2 жыл бұрын
oh yes, luckily majority of marriages in the east are so pristine, honest, sacred and loving. oh wait... They aren't...
@littlelady7843
@littlelady7843 Жыл бұрын
@@Adi-xs5dw Most are loveless in fact.
@NoName-un9fk
@NoName-un9fk 2 жыл бұрын
31:22 有个绕口令😂 “洗衣机里一起洗” 还可以加个”衣服”: 我愿意洗衣机里一起洗衣服
@davec5153
@davec5153 Жыл бұрын
What the girl should do if she wants to know if he's serious. When he askes her to go out on another date, she should says, " I wont go out with you because im looking for a serious relationship and i think your not" then if the guy likes her, he will make it official, if he doesn't, then he was never serious. You need to confront and just ask western men, he'll appreciate the honesty and your forthrightness. I'm a western guy. All white men have it in their head that they will someday go back to their home country, not all but its easier for them to get a good job and build a life in their home country. Where as in china they will only ever be an English teacher. So if you get married to one, most will want you to leave china. Non white foreigners are happy to live in china because it is better than their home country for making money and life quality.
@billlee6
@billlee6 2 жыл бұрын
我是外国人,来自东南亚的。在热带国家我们习惯一天洗两次澡。我来中国五年了,还是一天洗两次澡,冬天也是。我在南方,但冬天有时候也会零度。
@rodrigofrancescani4223
@rodrigofrancescani4223 3 жыл бұрын
Basically in the foreign dating way we usually have a trial period where we test if we can actually be together in a serious relationship. We don't want to rush things simply because it's better to prevent than to heal. But I think that in most big cities people are aware of that and play by those rules because the pressure from the parents is not as strong.
@PhillipGregoryMusic
@PhillipGregoryMusic 3 жыл бұрын
thats why divorvce rates and cheating are sky rocketting in china because people rush into relationships and realise they have made a massive mistake.
@PEProzent
@PEProzent 3 жыл бұрын
My Chinese wife forbid me to invest my own (premarital) money and threatened me with divorce. Half a year later I would have earned at least half a million EUR. I think about it every day. But I did not get a divorce because I would have wasted her time and youth (as we have been together for many years). Also I could have been an Ocean King at the beginning of our relationship but I decided not to out of respect. Now I regret both decisions because women only respect men who do not respect them.
@services4u368
@services4u368 Жыл бұрын
lots of Chinese girl they don't want marry. they want friends. or play boy. i asked.
@umutyldz6107
@umutyldz6107 3 жыл бұрын
top quality teaching
@gangstaalife5407
@gangstaalife5407 3 жыл бұрын
嗨, 你好,我是一个外国人,中文学得挺久了。您能不能解释关于 哦、哎、嗯、呵呵 之类的吗?因为我从小是用课本来学中文,但课本里没有这些话。谢谢你!
@tjsgh26
@tjsgh26 3 жыл бұрын
How can I donate with Paypal? The website said it cannot be supported in Korea😭
@MandarinCorner2
@MandarinCorner2 3 жыл бұрын
You can make international donations at Patreon: www.patreon.com/mandarincorner
@MandarinCorner2
@MandarinCorner2 2 жыл бұрын
Para personas que hablan español! kzbin.info/door/Tz9aaxu9Z4TNu-s2jE3FFQ
@av3ngers17
@av3ngers17 3 жыл бұрын
damn, so many disgusting guys in the comments. I hope Chinese girls are safe
@dy5167
@dy5167 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Gwen was very funny.
@AxionSmurf
@AxionSmurf 3 жыл бұрын
What's the point of continuing to date someone you can't ask if they're after the same thing you are? That sounds like a way to get your feelings hurt badly down the line. Ask the dude and if you don't like the response, move on with your life. Someone else will be after the same thing, and they won't get mad or feel awkward that you asked. A reasonable person who needed more time would say Yes but I'm not ready to call myself anything more than your girlfriend / boyfriend. We're going to need to know each other a lot better for more.
@lovjoyxce
@lovjoyxce 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Asia and I don’t eat all that Gwen mentioned.. except for intestines and stomach 😬
@ricolamoretti4515
@ricolamoretti4515 3 жыл бұрын
其實這個跟文化區別沒什麼關係 渣男就是渣男 但是很多壞人會用”文化”隱藏自己的意圖……
@ScottGlisson74
@ScottGlisson74 2 жыл бұрын
Not all “foreigners” think like this.
@fernieramirez4981
@fernieramirez4981 3 жыл бұрын
At 17:42 immediately after talking about the book, heads for the straw, haha , wink wink
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