Mann Oil Filter - What's Inside...?

[@TheSunsfan4life]

They also make oem filters for Kia/Hyundai. They are great and very affordable. Those ones are made in Korea

[@faxmen09]

Just so you know, the Mann spin on filters made in the US (including this ML1008) are identical to the equivalent Purolator filter, in this case the Purolator Red with nitrile adbv. Not sure what the ML1008 cost but no reason to pay more for it than the Purolator. Mann & Hummel has been the sole owner of Purolator since 2013, and Purolator makes their US made filters. Cut open the equivalent Purolator Red L14610 and confirm it for yourself. I would guess the Purolator costs less.

[@CarsNToys]

You're correct. Mann Hummel manufactures Purolator and Wix.

[@faxmen09]

After I posted my comment I noticed you had already cut open a Purolator Red L14610 on a few months ago. You can see that the internals of this Mann are identical to the Purolator. M&H does own both Purolator and now Wix, but currently only Purolator makes the Mann US made spin on filters.

[@mattleonard5268]

The (anti)drainback valve is to keep oil in the filter, not in the engine.

[@GeorgiGeorgiev-ne9ps]

Most of german cars are originally equipped with Mann filter. Great filters for the price

[@QiuyuanChenRyan916]

Plus some doesn't need a can, just the paper filter sits inside a hosing.

[@ibarria]

My 2019 VW Jetta has this brand as the Cabin Air Filter.

[@brandonhatfield2547]

Mann also does the Carquest red & blue filters. The reds have rubber drain back and rated 5000 miles. The blues have silicone and synthetic blend media and rated for 10000 miles. Great filters.

[@CarsNToys]

Appreciate the feedback!

[@mattleonard5268]

And not all engines need or require drianback valves, only ones that have the filter horizontal, or an angle other than vertical (with the threaded end up).

[@gumpertapollo97]

Well, mann+hummel owns: wix filters, filtron and proulator. Some filters are often completely the same. There are produced some orginal bmw, 5 minutes later there comes mann filter out of the machine and the next day volvo, the afternoon bosch (completely the same filter) You don't need a wired back, high quality filter media stay's in place, even if you don't change it after life time, the perforated metal in the back prevents the filter media from imploding.

[@joes.7536]

My choice for VW 1.8t. Change every 5k miles. 940/25. Use with Castrol edge euro formula. 0w40. Works for me in all seasons. The one I just installed an hour ago says made in Germany on it.

[@Davido50]

VW forever! Altho I prefer American made filters / oils.

[@timmyd800]

I have/do all that, but use mobil 1 0w40

[@adamrogers4279]

@@timmyd800 My secret sauce as well. 0w40 M1 FS is outstanding.

[@paulbelew353]

Ok . just checking I am new to the VW world, lol it looks like mine calls for a 719/30 Mann and I use Castrol 5W-40 , it's a 2001 1.8T , the filter I have been using is a Mobil1, love my VW and want keep it running strong and to last, thanks !

[@makemoneyonline8793]

If the vehicle use a cartridge filter I prefer hengst over Mann,. From my experience with european vehicles that use spin on oil filters I use hengst or fram ultra synthetic oil filters... The Mann spin on oil filters for Vw/Audi are still made in germany.

[@beepboopbeep78]

Mann is the supplier for at least BMW factory filters FYI.

[@TheCyberstace]

We have two RAV4's VVTi and always use MANN oil filters, air and cabin too. For the engine oil I use Miller oils EE Nanotec 5w30

[@CarsNToys]

They certainly are well made.

[@Davido50]

Toyota not known for quality OEM filters! I use Motorcraft myself. Highly rated fair price.

[@lorenray9479]

Does anyone ask if fiberglass fragment into clean oil?

[@roadrunner8428]

Here is my experience with a Mann 920/17 oil filter. My OCI is 6-7k miles using Synthetic and a Wix or Napa Gold oil filter. I have tried others and they have been fine when opened, but this is about the Mann filter. Normally when I remove the filter I get a mess of oil drip down the side of the block down to the catch pan. This time removing this Mann filter produced barely any oil drip at all. So I complete the oil change and off I went. This morning I cut this filter open as I do all my filters after use to give a look see. I was surprised that this filter did not have an anti drain back valve, so actually the oil drains back into the oil pan, leaving the filter dry thus the reason for no oily mess on the block. It did have the leaf spring. Other videos on KZbin show a Mann filter with an anti drain back valve and a sturdy coil spring. The coil spring or leaf spring do its job in the canister, but having no anti drain back valve causes oil to drain back into the oil pan instead of remaining in the filter. This filter was purchased on EBAY for $7.73 and the filter did say 'Made in Germany'on the canister. Could be a miss on the assembly line ? or is it a cheap Chinese knock off ? I had two filters, so I spun the other one on and I will update this next oil change in approx. four months. I have been warned about cheap knock offs on EBAY so we'll see. Beyond not having that valve, the case itself is very sturdy ,the filter element held up fairly well without the pleats distorting badly in any way. Anyone else come across this finding ? So to followup; I could not get this off my mind so I removed Mann filter at 820 miles, cut it open. Looking at the filter base plate when removed, I did not see an anti drain back valve through the holes on the base plate, not black rubber, not orange/red silicone and not white, I will keep this in mind next time no matter what filter I use. There was NO anti drain back valve in the second Mann filter I used from the same buyer on Ebay for $7.73. This time I used an STP S16XL. Had one once before and when opened after 6k miles, the pleats remained rigid and there wasn't any debris on the inside of the case and bottom of base plate as there was with the Mann. This is Memorial day weekend so I will wait for Tuesday to contact Mann filters to see what if anything they say regarding my experience with their filters. These could have very well been a Chinese knockoff but bothers me that they would cheap out on a piece of rubber or silicone. Beware ! So I was in touch with Kyle Smith of Republic Manufacturing in Dallas Texas via email, this is the outfit that builds the Mann oil filters. He claimed that they do not incorporate an anti drain back valve into their oil filters. So I do not put blame on the seller as he may not have known. At this point I am done using Mann oil filters.

[@Scramasax]

I think you have misunderstood the basics here some what. Filter manufacturers (including Mann) make hundreds of different types of filters. Most have antidrain valves, but you can also buy a model that doesn't have one. Some have several different types of valves built in one filter, but you can also buy a model that does not have any valves at all, not even a bypass. It all comes down to what your engine requires and what kind of filter you buy. It certainly sounds like you have installed a wrong kind of filter in your engine. It's not about the manufacturer, it's about the filter type. Check the online Mann Filter catalogue for the correct filter for your engine. You can also double check from there, what specific built in valves does that specific filter have included.

[@rayg5006]

roadrunner, I know it's been 7 months but I just had to comment on what you wrote.... If you would have checked their online catalog you would have seen that your Mann W 920/17 does not have an Anti-drain back valve. catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/eng/catalog/MANN-FILTER%20Katalog%20Europa/Oil%20Filter/W%20920~17%3Bjsessionid=0313E481234EA72D290EFB39FE4D7B59 For example, the filter I use for my Ford does have an Anti-drain back valve and it even has a Bypass Valve, as noted on their online catalog: catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/eng/catalog/MANN-FILTER%20Katalog%20Europa/Hydraulics,%20Hydraulic%20Transmission%20Filter,%20Oil%20Filter/W%20940~24 Coincidentally, my filter is basically the same as yours, just a little longer and with the Anti-drain back valve. A little research can go a long way

[@matthewjenkins1161]

@@rayg5006 Is that the correct filter for your car though and if so, did your car manufacturer specify bypass and anti-drain back back valves? As you know, their website gives the specs on all their filters, including the pressure rating where fitted, of the bypass valves. I know this because I've been searching extensively for the best oversize filter for my car, that matches the critical aspects like thread, inner/outer seal diameter, presence of drain back and rating of bypass. So next time I will use a Mann W 940/47 instead of the recommended W 719/36. From what I see, the W920/17 is only specified for some pretty old air cooled VolksWagens, VW engined 914 and the Vauxhall Viceroy. If you are driving something else, it is likely the seller mis-sold you that filter.

[@Johnny747CB]

I use amsoil oil filter,high quality but you gonna pay!! My dad loves the Napa gold.

[@matthewjenkins1161]

@@Johnny747CB There is nothing low quality about Mann oil filters, but it seems likely the wrong filter was purchased for his engine. Difficult to say that with certainty, without knowing the engine concerned. The W920/17 is specified for very old engines from Vauxhall and VW and the equivalent Amsoil filter (if there is one?) would also lack anti-drainback and bypass valves.

[@alilsouthosanity]

MANN-HUMMEL is the OEM supplier for just about all the german cars. i have a hyundai filter stamped with mann-hummel on it as well so i would say your good on the hyundai side as well. just don't use a fram filter unless your in a hurry to buy a new car. I also recommend amsoil signature series which according to amsoil it is now API certified oil, it was not api certified until recently. so to recap mann-hummel+amsoil= happy engine. :-)

[@dylanteribury]

Curious if you would dissemble a German-made Mann. After reading the comments I now see that the American-made Mann filters are now owned and produced by Purolator (and look just like the red on your respective video). I like to use the Mann W917 on my Volvo as it's the OE filter and my filters are white and box says made in Germany. Would be interesting to see the differences between the American and German Mann. Thanks for the videos, they're interesting!

[@CarsNToys]

I haven't come across Mann filters made in Germany as of yet. I'll keep an eye out for one. Thank you.

[@yiranjack]

Mann Hummel is huge. It owns Mann filter, Purolator, Wix. It supplies NAPA.

[@aydingultekin2846]

Mann is one of the best filter makers. Just check the online catalogue for the part number and buy it. No brainer

[@johnchurchill3933]

Just my opinion, having purchased both Mann and Hengst but I think Hengst have the edge. I don't much care for the cellulose end caps on the Mann cartridge filters.

[@spannerssockets6308]

Mann Hummell (German based) now own Wix Filters and Filton. For me its a flip of coin between Mann and Hengst (also German). I don't like the cellulose end caps on Mann's cartridge oil filters for VWs, the Hengst version looks better made. By the way, Mann make filters for Bosch who supply the likes of Bilstein Group for their Blue Print brand.

[@CarsNToys]

Appreciate the comment!

[@jackmcdalter3882]

Indeed, Mann and Hengst are top guns in the world of filters yet ironically have manufacturing in several countries.

[@GIGABACHI]

Good Work ! Thanks for making these Vids, it truly helps when the time comes to make an informed purchase.

[@Cachapeluo]

What about doing a MAHLE oil filter?

[@hotrodaallbbaa2343]

The only oil filter I use on my Mini Cooper S.

[@M1sterFancyPants]

Just picked up a Mann HU8162X for $13 bucks for my Cooper S here in Canada. Every place I checked was also selling the FRAM extra guard for $24??? What a ridiculous price for lower quality.

[@MultiChimRichalds]

Purolator classic with black paint basically lol

[@JazzyJonas]

Yep, same company.

[@campervanelvisitoofonyou8720]

Best for Volvos, original equipment

[@joes.7536]

Campervan Elvis I toof on you only filter my 1.8t vw sees.

[@treborg777]

I once used Mann filters on my 2013 Audi Q5, changing oil at 5k mile intervals between the dealer services (every 10k miles), until at one dealer service, I was told that the Mann oil filter damaged the oil filter mount (center oil filter connection on engine). I’ve used OEM filters since.

[@skr4207]

lol, funny, because MANN filters are made 1:1 oem for audis(it's not oem, but is 1:1 oem spec), at least it is true for the a4 b5.

[@24hourgmtchannel64]

I've been buying MANN oill and air filters for my BMW's and Porsches for over three decades and I see some or concerned about the originins of manufacture other than Germany. As log as the plant is owned and operated by MANN+HUMMEL regardles of country, they are going to be the same high quality product.

[@pattreu834]

fram now uses a slicone drain back valve

[@pattreu834]

looks like a great filter

[@leordo11]

I always use synthetic filter with steel backing for my 2011 toyota rav4 just in case it collapses I have seen a toyota tacoma that did and debris got in the engine and the engine had to be replaced.

[@mattka5354]

dany ordonez What kind of synthetic filter do you recommend? Thanks.

[@leordo11]

Fram ultra synthetic.

[@leordo11]

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[@Davido50]

Toyota's have those weak engines (internal material) is issue. Change air filters every 10k mis too! Buy most expensive oil filters on any Toyota.

[@DavidVoxDem]

I get terrified when I look at the Fram filter 'cause I start to wonder what else could be absolute shit tier garbage in my truck

[@robertogomez8100]

The anti drain back valve looks like rubber, are you sure is silicone?

[@xfhnhhgjbvcfg]

Nitrile I bet

[@jernigan007]

best filter for a VW imo

[@miked104]

What is more efficient? High Surface area of lower quality media or lower surface area of a higher quality media?

[@jackmcdalter3882]

Higher surface area to allow better oil flow through but its imperative that the filter media is adequate to retain deposits.

[@SlikLizrd]

The most efficient filter will have a large surface area of a higher quality media.

[@7s29]

I use Aeroflow.

[@Krahnic559]

That filter looks like the purlators you cut open.

[@Krahnic559]

I guess if I read the previous comments I would know that.

[@suleymancakr6724]

Honda = Purflux i used mann also. What you guys thinking purflux or Mann

[@y2kdisease]

Thanks for the video. I've been using these for the last 6 oil changes on my accord, but now they seem to be out of market :( Can you do a video comparison with the Mahle/Clevite OC707 (or equivalent) please?

[@CarsNToys]

I'll have a Mahle review shortly. Thank you.

[@silversolar2631]

A Mann Co oil filter the only oil filter for Saxton Hale

[@TJandDally]

Mann+hummel owns Purolator so those filters should be the same.

[@jhaycruz5945]

This oil filter, can I used this for synthetic oil.

[@CarsNToys]

Yes

[@umeng2002]

Mann and Mahle or OE for a lot of European cars.

[@SlikLizrd]

The black rubber anti-drainback valve of the Mann Filter makes it unsuitable for oil change intervals in excess of 3,000 miles. QUIT with shoving the wire-backed crapola down our throats -- it's annoying AF.

[@terrancegrant1664]

Never heard of them up here in Canada.

[@erictsai1165]

Terrance Grant. Mann Filter is European company and one of the oem filter maker for German cars. You can find them in Canadian Tire.

[@liviu9181]

Terrance Grant Mann is very popular in Europe.I work at a parts store for trucks and i only sell Mann filters.I tried them on my car too but i found OEM Ford filters to be better.

[@ahmedateffg2881]

Nice vid

[@CarsNToys]

Thank you.

[@alexsaab8089]

I use Mann filters on my Saabs

[@CarsNToys]

Yes, they're well made.

[@nittanyburg20]

Looks like a Bosch clone