S9 EP5 | 2/2 | HEARTBREAK HOTEL WITH JULES AND LORNZIE (FROM OVER 25) | MANTALK.KE X OVER 12.5

[@Iamliterallyjustagirlonline]

Jules!!! I resonate so much w her! I dont think she understands how relatable she is! Lornzie is always dressed to kill w those gorgeous legs!!

[@kihembodoreen7368]

When Jules said, "They just don't wanna be with you." Wawu...I felt that one..what I have learned is not to tie my self worth to a partner or a relationship. When relationships end we often ask ourselves, what's wrong with me, was I not enough, am I not worthy of love? I have learned to say , he doesn't love me and that has nothing to do with me or my worth... I am inherently worthy.

[@VickieLightt]

There is a lot that Jules has gone through and you can tell with how introspective and expressive she is. I genuinely wish her well in her love life. She deserves a man who'll take her and all that she comes with and MOST importantly make her feel safe like she is used to from the men in her life.

[@irenenduku4043]

Heart break doesn’t immunize you against future heartbreaks.it just equips you to be conscious about red flags in future relationships as well as recognize the need to get up and keep it moving if it happens again.it basically quickens recoil in future situations.

[@hopeshailet3645]

THIS HAS T BE THE BEST COMMENT, YOU HAVE MANED TO SUM IT UP PERFECTLY

[@janiffernyarangi2787]

I remember my last heartbreak 4 years ago. For two months I would just find myself having random meltdowns. I would find myself shedding tears walking on the streets, in the office, at home doing chores. For some reason I couldn't control the pain, and it was a constant that I lived with for those two months. And then one morning I just woke up and just like that, all that pain was gone. My character development was complete!!!

[@elsiemuliebi3592]

God when ghai...

[@fridanjeru8384]

I have been going through this phase for the last one month. I hope I will be better with time

[@faithmbaire989]

@@fridanjeru8384 it is almost 8 months and i the pain is just new....I have just felt the pain right now

[@Tireito24]

Jules is always the big sister i needed everytime she speaks i relate to her so much .

[@lovechild4141]

Me too🥺 !!she’s so wise and insightful Wish she was my big sister ✨

[@reginakungu9914]

Why did this episode feel like a therapy session for Oscar. Who ever hurt that man, did him dirty...

[@clorieskendy]

Poor guy! Good thing is he is actively healing and you can see it and hear it. Once he comes across the right woman they'll be magic. Bet!!!

[@FranEJ]

I'm with Lornzie. Love with your head and prioritze yourself and your needs. Know what you want out of a relationship and constantly assess if you are getting it. If you've asked and observed and given time (2 weeks to 2 months) and you know this is who the person is and they are comfortable in whatever they are doing and not willing to adjust for you, well, you moove. It only hurts when you lose yourself and compromise yourself and give too much time to a situation you hoped you could handle. To heal, you don't look at the other person. You forgive yourself and remember the lesson!

[@oscarwaiharo]

This is so good I wrote it in my relationship journal.

[@justinelove7816]

Jules' lesson is one of my lessons from heartbreaks too There is no amount of love that can make the other person to stay when they have decided to go

[@ayikiriizemartha4640]

If there's one person who has mastered the art of compliments, it's you Oscar, in case you are still figuring out your love language, I think it's words of affirmation because you do it so effortlessly and wonderfully.

[@MsYemisi]

Oscar must have been really heartbroken with how serious he looked when Jules was talking.🥺

[@agnnetalawrence5442]

I remember in 2018 when I had my heart broken 😞. I became a shell for a good 2 months, luckily I was unemployed coz if I had a job I would have been fired. The pain is indescribable but it is so intense, I had episodes of rage, despair, sobbing…. Thinking about it, I would not wish that on anybody. Just like Lornzie’s mum, my mum told me, ‘I pray for you, but I don’t know what’s happening to you. Only you can tell God how you are felling, go to Him yourself….’ I woke up the next morning got on my knees and had a serious prayer. When I finished the feeling went away just like that🥰

[@ayikiriizemartha4640]

Eli, I will say a prayer on your behalf for you not to get a heartbreak. May you meet the love of your life, marry them, live happily ever after and die in each other's arms. May God protect your heart from a heartbreak.

[@awam951]

But heartbreak is B.R.U.T.A.L. It gives you another level of character development you cannot learn anywhere else. That is when you come face to face with a level of indescribable pain and darkness. Somewhat similar to the pain of losing someone through death. When you have loved someone completely and wholeheartedly with no restrictions and it finally ends, it takes a supreme being to get you out of that darkness!!! I mourned an ex for a year (they went on and got married and re-located *rolls eyes*) and everyday I prayed to God to get me out of that place and just give me strength . Yaani heartbreak.. wacha tu. But that is the interesting thing about love, the highs are really high, and the lows..man.... I am glad I finally found the one God had molded and kept for me

[@Ms_Muiruri]

I had someone who was my "calories"....the heartbreak was so bad I couldn't function.I had to quit my job. But as Jules said you have to accept that maybe that person hasn't moved on they just don't want to be with you. So I'm glad I processed & accepted & I'm in a good place now. To someone who is heartbroken, hugs. You'll be okay.

[@eddiemetriumzone3583]

In such a topic revisit 😊 your upbringing and relationship with care giver.

[@docmwaura1889]

First time watching Mantalk.. 1. I really love the conversation with the girls. 2. I wish to concur with @Eli belief that one doesn't have to be heartbroken to learn from rshps. The reasons why heartbreaks exist for majority of people is exactly what you guys are talking about incompatibility / mismatches and lack of self awareness by the two. If everyone in the world had a some level of self awareness they would go for the their counterparts..and not allow to settle for less than they can handle. And the high quality material should be willing to compromise for the less quality material if they decide to settle for the other and vice versa.

[@MaseretiMoraa]

Can Julie and Oscar date already....I just picture them on a date having deep deep conversations

[@k3ygvrv]

I feel like if you truly loved someone, you weren't infatuated with them, you won't feel bad if they go, cause i feel like real love never dies ,it evolves, infatuation is like burning dry grass, it's super strong at first, but it ends with time, when you love someone, their happiness is your priority, it's not how they make you feel that will always make you happy, your happiness comes from seeing them happy

[@k3ygvrv]

@Yvette Waweru yes! Their happiness always makes you happy, i noticed this with my small bro who's autistic, i love him so much that I'd do anything to see him smile. He's such a sweet boy but people don't understand him. I love him to death

[@valerielola9233]

Maybe Eli has never been in Love, or allowed himself to be in love..that's why he has never been heartbroken. Either that or his attachment style is secure.. maybe he is so self aware and knows his self worth to the point that he cannot let anyone affect his emotions.

[@miaduana]

I was going to say the same

[@angeleenjohnson3642]

I'm definitely with that

[@Nataliejulie-p8b]

For some reason I’m rooting for Eli and Jules 🥺they look perfect for each other 😁

[@Amanda-u1k7r]

Oscar really has placed a standard on material stuff; status, beauty, money,deep talks.

[@carolmutua5266]

I really feel Oscar today. Heartbreaks are so painful but if you take time to heal and get better you can look back and admire the way you overcame it.

[@sharonnjuguna8778]

Just listening to the heartbreak stories.....😂😂kidogo is dating a must????? ....I dont think loving too...... ( conversation btwn me and myself )

[@puritygitau108]

I feel like I have big brothers and big sisters here tbh ...I really needed this talk.

[@Michira]

that color looks so good on Jules😍

[@wanjiru567]

Jules!!!! Totally relate. No amount of love can keep him or her if they don't want to be with you. Totally true💯 You have to learn to live without them ☺️

[@JamillahA]

I was just looking at Oscar and was like 'Someone give Oscar a hug🤗' Big up ManTalk and Over 25

[@magicalotter9302]

😂😂😂aki i had been avoiding watching these two videos for a week and this stuff is heaaaaavy😭😭😭😂😂tuko pamoja

[@tessnjuguna9500]

Heartbreaks totally suck. Learning to live without this person is a damn skill, you need to unlearn so much. The beautiful memories you created now come back as torture and so much trauma more so if you guys broke up on things neither you can change about each other. This is a reality you have to live every day and a constant reminder of no matter how good it was, you need to move on yet the moving on itself comes eventually it ain't forced. So many people force it and end up bringing baggages into other relationships. Jules and Oscar I totally feel you. I reasonated so much with this episode 👍

[@kathycherotich8202]

The River and the Source is by Margaret Ogola

[@luciechihandae9280]

The law of the universe , you shall repeat class until you learn the lesson. It’s the law

[@mellowwwwwwwww]

Yes! Heartbreak is really dying but not dying at the same time…but literally there’s death involved💔

[@tutoh.]

Aki I looooove Jules,she is such a babe!!

[@TheUnboxedMan]

Heartbreaks are a mess. Eli, run, keep running. You don't know how long I hated a maroon BMW, I saw it on the road and immediately am anxious. It has taken me 2 years to keep walking and still have to self-check now and then. Oscar, working on yourself needs a support system

[@saltedcaramel4982]

Heartbreak really sucks! 😞 Especially that all-consuming sadness that never seems to go away, that feeling beyond sickness in the pit of the stomach 🤢 aaah! But it gets better I promise.

[@rachelmunyi9727]

I absolutely loved this show....it was so relevant and insightful...so thank you. 🙏🏿

[@olemabz]

Excellent, eye opening session...definitely doing justice enlightening the boychild.

[@laurawaithira15]

Yea I'm late..but you..I relate so much with Jules.. she expresses hers so we'll...and yea heartbreaks... 2 yrs ago I was hrtbroken and I moved from home to go work In gulf just to heal from everything..weuh...yaani... I would cry even when working remembering what I went through...but once you heal...you laugh about it and know what to take next time 😜😜 nice episodes you have

[@kingknight2138]

dang, these guys know heartbreak personally so much emotion in their voices they want to scream.

[@jobjason2144]

this has been a whole therapy session .. is it just me who thinks this is the first show we have heard Lornzie actually express herself, i heard you.

[@thegodlyprincess_kenya]

True ☺️

[@dianamuhia9506]

Jules I empathize with you. Aki I have been hearts broken from July 3 2021 and today on 9 may 2022 I still cry because I honestly I loved that guy with my whole heart. Well i think I need to let go funny thing I am a therapist but I this time round I still don't know what to do

[@julesridley5352]

I screamed Margaret Ogolla from where I am when she said it's Ngugi wa Thiong'o for River and the source.....

[@monicaoliveira7608]

Eli, you don't have to experience heartbreak . And for me being intentional about ur next relation being the last IS good Idea. Not every one learn from heartbreak. Some of us learn by our parents experiences, Friends relationship or our own grouth, knowing yourself better. How thé last generation was doing ? they didn 't need heartbreak to learn, So it's possible. I Never have my Heart broken toi and don't intend to. My next relationships IS thé last one 😉. So keep going bruh!!!

[@purplespray3768]

I have had traumatising things happened to me in relationships but I don't think I've been in love so I can see where Eli is coming from. I think because I've been socialised to believe love comes with marriage so I've never allowed myself to fall in the relationship.

[@Nanjala_cr]

Heart breaks are so painful, I hope anyone going through that heals in the right way. Love you. Man Talk_Ke the episodes are so dope and informative. I envy Eli, no heartbreaks, wueeh.

[@valentinealigula]

jules advice spoke to me

[@luvale_ednah]

Yes yes and yes. You guys never disappoint.

[@sunshineheaven1802]

People go through this so that others do not have to or so that it is easier. People should not settle for less because we need to experience this. I wish a few years ago I had these channels, at least you go in with some knowledge.

[@justinelove7816]

Great conversations Thanks Mantalk and Over 25

[@faithnjoki1471]

Heartbreaks makes the heart stop for a good minute. Literally.

[@user-qf9qd8pl8b]

I feel like Oscar ran away from his emotions at that time and he never got to work with it, accept that his ego too was severely bruised and grow from that. Rather he created a different personality to protect his innermost self. There's this saying of you need to accept the failures of life, allow yourself to grieve, walk with it learn from it Allow yourself to heal from it which people usually don't and get back 10×better

[@ManTalkKe]

This comment is the one that I have been waiting for! When hurt a lot of us create separate personalities to protect ourselves from the pain. This comes off often as a projection of our ego and false persona. My personal experience was that it was very self destructive. I did this for a long time, until I began to unpack the pain and loss and it put me on a healthier and abundant path. Great reaction!⚡ - O.

[@ladyprisca5915]

Couldn't have said it any better...i too created a fake persona I became what i initially believed never to be a version of me...but untill i unloaded the pain and baggage i carried along i realised it did change me to a more emotionally matured woman and I knew my worth...if you dont allow yourself to feel the pain and learn from the process you will forever be in similar situations and breaking the "new you" will be hell!!!!!never change the good parts of you to hide your pain and ego....it will be worth it one day trust me!!!

[@Haise8]

Could you talk about Age in relationships?

[@mariendua9665]

1st time watching mantalk Ke(from over25😅) ..... spot on! Loved it. A subscribe from me. Hi Eli😌

[@wangarijskamau]

This was so so good. I want us to have these conversations more often. Kudos

[@marymutuku5355]

Heartbreak helps you build your emotional muscles. Helps you love yourself more and take life for what it is......

[@emmamwanza2138]

Heartbreaks really suck, but there’s a certain depth and understanding that’s only acquired by pain.

[@TheLydia1986]

The River and the Source by Margaret Ogolla

[@rhodakaruga9504]

Vulnerability like this is so refreshing and so much healing from these conversations.

[@yoda3932]

jules looks like the background 😌

[@Questionswith_answers]

Oscaaaarrr… you have spoken the TRUTH!

[@mercynamikoye9084]

I would like the male perspective on long term affairs and side chicks who are not there because of the money and financial support. Because there is a certain group of people or men who treat their mistresses and side chicks with so much respect and defend them and protect them fiercely

[@vanessacharlotte1431]

😂😂 did he kill for you

[@mercynamikoye9084]

@@vanessacharlotte1431 I've never had an affair just observation on the different types of men who do and wanted insight. Seeing a topic in our environment and having interest in it does not equate to having participated.

[@sophiajadenya6869]

Yes am late but yooow 😊I must say that when we set standards for ourselves after going through all the heartbreak trauma we won't allow ourselves being messed with people who can't match what we have built

[@sunshineheaven1802]

People go through this so that others do not have to or so that it is easier. People should not settle for less because we need to experience this. I wish a few years ago I had these channels, at least you go in with some knowledge. Oscar said it all, constantly working on self is the way to move on.

[@cynthiak6889]

I am really learning a lot from this conversation.... thank you guys

[@anneirungu8203]

I feel like it's not really necessary to be heartbroken, because as much as there are no lessons to carry forward, there are reasons that a relationship ended so in a way it's still an L, which one can use a stepping stone for the next relationship

[@clarissecladia6234]

5:42 to 5:46 Thank Your Lornzie😍

[@lucywangari3288]

Had to rewatch this....venye inaslap wacha tu

[@ManTalkKe]

LOVE IT!

[@Bee-wd4mh]

Thanks so much guys for sharing. I can totally relate to the heart break experience.

[@lizziewanene6942]

I cannot believe that in 2022!!!!! I'm hearing two young women shaming other women for being in polygamous relationships and the answer had to be something is wrong with them🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 2022 guys, and what responsibility goes to those men for cheating? Why can't they be the lazy ones to work on their marriage and are looking for an easy way out? Why can't we say it's cause the men are unhappy but society has tied success to marriage so they find it hard to leave openly? In my opinion,those ladies have decided to be happy inspite of popular beliefs! Lazy my black , African a**!!!

[@charitykirigo7707]

Time heals and healing is a process.

[@kobekobe20]

River and the source by Magret Ongola

[@iddahnganga718]

Heartbreaks even affect your sleep. I used to get tremors and poor quality of sleep.

[@MtotowaNjuru]

River and the source is by Margaret Ogola The river between is the one for Ngugi Wa Thiong’o

[@nicholastoo858]

Nice talks. Keep it up.

[@nutritiongalore]

Always great conversations here. I learn alooooot from you guys.

[@annmunyi901]

I think on why women are okay being the other women, there's no definite answer. 1. The lifestyle. If there's a man who can provide for you things that you can't afford yet you desire. 2. Being okay with bare minimum. No one has ever given you the attention or the care you deserve so you give up & take anything as long as a small percentage of your needs are met. 3. Emphasis on SEX as a need instead of a want. Women are okay to be with men just for SEX. CC I'm super jealous to share a man.

[@FranEJ]

Enjoyed this one! kept rewinding

[@frankkiboye9875]

MARGERET OGOLLA is the River and the Source

[@faithmulwa2903]

Beautiful conversation. It's the humility from all of you. Good job guys.

[@TheLydia1986]

At Eli yeah, Chimamanda is the one who did a Ted Talk on the danger of a single story.

[@innerinsights5637]

Margaret ogolla for river and the source

[@surpeleisurpelei7501]

There is the "other woman" who chooses that because they don't want the man for longterm, just for now. So they don't necessarily need pity, as more often than not, they do get what they signed for: the man when he wants to enjoyment (a.k.a. the happy, ATM, fun version of the man) while the main woman, who does the heavy lifting gets the moody "feels nagged when talked to" version of the man. So really, the side woman doesn't always get the raw deal.

[@TheLydia1986]

Physiological needs are the basic needs i.e. food clothing and shelter

[@teresiawakairu7595]

Oscar hujui Chimamada??haha I never esspererit ....with your knowledge in books 📚.....

[@ManTalkKe]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Hujui jokiso?

[@ManTalkKe]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Hujui jokiso?

[@leecaxton2567]

So profound and subtle!!

[@kashbish9887]

If I am not mistaken, the Americana film was cancelled.

[@gladyswairimu4786]

Very insightful.

[@katsn9304]

I think the best person to talk about why women settle for being a 2nd wife etc is Benjamin nzulu.please invite him

[@realvictoria_]

River& the Source by Margaret Ogola

[@justinelove7816]

From my observation Some women are comfortable being second or third girlfriends As a way out of financial poverty and men desperacy.

[@racquellek]

hey guys good show as always but can we do something about the audio because its too low

[@ManTalkKe]

Feedback noted. ⚡

[@ithankgod5733]

The river and the source is/was Margaret ogolla

[@waruguru7612]

Heartbreaks are brutal!!

[@valentinejohnson2130]

I have never ever resonated with a topic like i did with one. Probably because am on the journey of healing

[@luciechihandae9280]

Ummm I have polyamorous friends and their reasons are varied ; some are simply exploring getting it out of their system, others ; it’s a defense mechanism against heartbreak and the only way they can protect themselves ; low self esteem , hypersexual and being culture rebellious… personally I feel the underlying issues for it are many emotional issues

[@christinek8520]

Molding someone for someone else really hurts😩

[@vivianochieng7411]

I think you can be the one ending it and STILL be heartbroken

[@luciechihandae9280]

Heartbreak trauma phew! Anyway I still believe that one should love fully 100% not small small . BUT must be careful and wise in choosing their partner - know thy self before you embark on the journey of becoming one with someone

[@realvictoria_]

I choose this guy over myself for a whole year, he would go silent on me for like a month and come back and just say my flower am sorry and I'd forgive him .and in that time he would ghost me i would always say thats my husband and the last time he did it i just told him to be silent forever and i got over him.and he is trying to fix things again but am.done!! I choose me for once i think sometimes it just happens when you wake up and they are dead now