MANUAL Electric Porsche 356 Review: An EV For Petrolheads! 4K

[@WebsterMLetso]

"Not even Mercedes can top that level of fakery." - Rory Reid, 2021

[@nyoko555]

statement of the year...

[@thabangmagana869]

Where are the Merc fans😅

[@rxdje97]

yo that one there was a violation personally i wouldn't have it

[@GregoireVandenbussche]

Front bumper extensions can fit the rear bumper to eliminate exhaust tips completely…

[@gesnow]

This idea is not new. I want to do the same to my Jeep Wrangler.

[@JonathanEzor]

Next, the Electrogenic folks engineer a "stall in a busy intersection" mode for that true "just learning to drive manual" experience. :) Thank you, Rory, for a great review, and thank you to Electrogenic for helping to show what's possible. Now, can I please have an EV version of my first car, a 5-speed 1988 Honda Accord DX coupe? I wouldn't mind more than the original's 90 horsepower, of course. :)

[@johnbowie4869]

There are some ev training cars been using in driving school already here in china, they do manipulate stalling by cutting power of motor. 5-speed manual from original ICE powertrain, and has the idle rev and speed as well. Tried it once, it's bizarrely funny but kinda works at the same time

[@HazewinDog]

@@johnbowie4869 why do they bother with that?

[@cocosloan3748]

@@HazewinDog Coz he likes it you fool

[@edism]

Universe: How dumb do you want to be today? @@cocosloan3748: Yes.

[@edism]

@@HazewinDog It's certainly going to be more economical to run.

[@Skooby59]

I’d feel alot better about ev everything if it had 3 pedals. Wicked cool to see

[@vaibhavshet4427]

But still gas cars are the best

[@seemaprathapan7354]

Yeah it would never rev out like a petrol as the torque is immidiete but this porche did rev out

[@Kronos0999]

@@seemaprathapan7354 Electric cars are not the future. They simply can't be because recharging takes too long under any circumstances. Maybe if there is like a universal battery pack that you can just switch out at gas stations. Your empty batter pack goes to be recharged at a factory, while you get a refilled one, then maybe. But the way things are, electric cars are not gonna catch up.

[@seanonraet8327]

@@Kronos0999 most people don't drive far enough to actually use the full charge of an electric cars battery in one go. Considering cars spend 90% of their time parked, that's when you charge them. Of course for roadtrips you'd have to stop and charge for longer during a lunch stop or whatever but we've changed other habits for objectively better product

[@theodoredeverell3894]

@@Kronos0999 latest EVs can charge from 0-80% in 18mins. So your argument is now irrelevant.

[@TheUberSchattenjager]

Bravo - the perfect answer to preserve our need for classic cars AND to row our own gears. Thank you Electrogenic!

[@totoianugheorghelucian488]

That's not a classic car anymore.

[@jaycartier]

@@totoianugheorghelucian488 in a few years it will be, when gas is obsolete and electric is everywhere. Be grateful they’re revamping a gem.

[@vincentrecto8794]

Wow, this level of engineering means a lot to the future of electric vehicles. Here's hoping that manufacturers adopt this technology to their EVs, at least the sporty ones.

[@AzizBike]

They won't as there's no point. They don't care about your feelings, only performance matters.

[@senja572]

@@AzizBike Not performance, but efficiency. Gearboxes would reduce the range.

[@kylereese4822]

Just think when Chinese ev`s come to the uk and the parts are in salvage yards.. transplanting there bits into classics or the new build MGB`s, Escort MK2`s.. we need more limited production run cars like MK1-2 Escorts, 3 door Cosworth's, Capris, lotus carlton`s Morris minors, Imps, Chevet's etc... ):)

[@ForeverNeverwhere1]

Adopt this technology? Wtf, seriously, a budget EV conversion leaves in the 80 year old inefficient, noisy, heavy, unnecessary and unreliable transaxle to save a buck, and you think this is technology to be adopted? We did this on beetles 40 years ago, most EV conversions back then used to do this for the simple reason it kept costs down and made life easier. But we know better. Go buy a candle or two to light your house if you want, but it is in no way better under any metric than a light bulb.

[@DripDripDrip69]

From a engineering stand point this is stupid. Transmissions exist because combustion engines have a limited RPM range where it produce the most torque(typically 2000~4000 RPM) so in order to keep the engine RPM inside the happy zone regardless of speed you need a transmission. Electric motors produce almost flat torque curve from 0 all the way to redline(typically 15000RPM for most AC motor) and to make an AC motor run faster you don't really give it more power(volt or amp) but you increase the AC frequency. Keep the transmission inside an EV conversion is having a solution to a problem that no longer exist. It will do nothing other than adding internal friction and weight, thus decrease range.

[@j1cg]

Rory is a legend. A shame he left Top Gear. But he would be the best addition to Grand Tour. Excellent reviewer!

[@julianshepherd2038]

I'd like to see him take on Clarkson. Boxing preferably.

[@Telcontarnz]

Agree. They went backwards on top gear. Should have kept Rory with Christ Harris and brought in Vicky Butler Henderson or Johnny Smith. Dream team.

[@Frank-1978]

@@julianshepherd2038 😁

[@destruxandexploze2552]

Don’t mess with the original Trio.

[@j3652]

Electrogenic are the only EV company I've got any time for: the fit and finish looks immaculate, the conversion is reversible because they don't chop chunks out of the car to put the motors or batteries in, and you get a gearbox so it still feels vaguely like driving a real car. Great to see them getting some more attention!

[@charletfoster8917]

His excitement comes thru the screen. This EV is beautiful

[@jasonmarr9578]

If manufacturers started putting manual gearboxes in EVs I'd think that would incurage more people to move to electric

[@flavianapostol1350]

It's more expensive to put a gearbox in EV just to have fun a couple of times

[@TheJuggernoob1]

For enthusiasts like us, yes. Sadly more people wouldn’t get it.

[@kadajawi2]

Not that much more expensive though, and it'd be more efficient at higher speeds too. You could reduce the batteries needed etc. Also, such cars would be more for enthusiasts... and they do produce the MX-5 and GR86, right? What reason for existence do they have other than to give the owners a smile on their face? Cars like that can't stay petrol forever, they too have to become electric eventually. And this is the solution.

[@TimpBizkit]

@@kadajawi2 you don't tend to have the same losses from running electric motors at higher rpm. No pumping/exhaust air resistance losses or cylinder wall friction. No alternator belt or power steering. Electric motors can slow down when you let off the power but that force is optional by changing modes to become a generator and not a continuous parasitic loss (although with an ICE the throttle losses are less when using it than when engine braking). The old brushed motors were a little more lossy when spinning quickly. The magnets and steel coil formers would tend to hold the motor in certain positions when stationary but it was more of a repel from one, attract the next so it mostly cancelled out. Also, the "red line" on an electric motor is usually at low rpm high load (unless it's spinning so fast that the coils fly off) when it becomes more of a heater due to reduced back EMF and also less air blowing through the motor. When you take the load off an ICE it spins faster and faster until a rev limiter stops it. With an electric motor, it reaches a self limiting "no load" speed and doesn't even use much power to stay there. I think in my electric middrive bike it's about 20 watts to keep the motor at maximum speed by itself, so for most riding, you may as well let it rev in a lower gear to prolong the life of chain and internal gears. If you let it bog in a high gear it will heat up and waste battery.

[@leedorey1490]

This concept will assist the transition of driving enthusiasts to EV. It's what I've been waiting for.

[@adamrodrigues1617]

Yor are so wrong..electric will never substitute petrol engines. The soul is gone its going without any life. It is complete heartless

[@AR-zq9hq]

@@adamrodrigues1617 a car is a piece of metal. How does it have soul in the first place, unless you project one to it? And if so, why can't you project one to a car that uses the all mighty electromotive force for propulsion?

[@adamrodrigues1617]

@@AR-zq9hq no need to explain for you. You cant understand that, there are many guys who know what I mean. It is like a quartz clock and mechanical watch comparison... when you know what I mean. If not then you are not enough cultivated

[@AR-zq9hq]

@@adamrodrigues1617 probably because you can't explain it yourself without going into the realm of feelings and emotions. I am a watch guy, I have wind up watches, from Seiko 5's to Tissot's and a few quartz ones, ranging from $20 to three digits. I like all of them. I am a train enthusiast, I don't see electric locomotives have less "soul" than diesel or even steam ones. So why is it again?

[@adamrodrigues1617]

@@AR-zq9hq different angles..so stop talking. It doesn't make sense to began a discussion

[@Sir_Bruh]

this is just beautiful i wouldn't mind most driver oriented car's going electric with the manual e transmission

[@maDM72]

Eventually somebody brilliant came to the same conclusion as me - that electric cars should not be always high tech and boring! So cool. That's how we should approach EVs in the first place to keep people engaged with cars but also progress into the future. Very few people care about max range and max top speed, so much more people are interested in easy to use and fun to drive cars!

[@onethousandtwonortheast8848]

Here in the USA and gotta say this man is my favorite car reviewer; brilliant delivery both in prose, cinematic theater and over all drama. You sir are excellent at what you do. Keep it up!!!

[@robclapp9250]

My mind is blown. This is amazing. It's nearly everything I want in a car. Classic looks and little design quirks of the era, the ability to be engaged in the driving experience, as well as relative sustainability.

[@jimd385]

Awesome car, of course rear engine cars always lend themselves better to the EV conversion because they never have front grills . I keep trying to think where I might have seen something similar to this, and then I remembered “Gattaca” a movie from the late 90’s set in the near future where all cars are electric but use classic vehicles that have been retrofitted.

[@kristyleeleggett]

Amazing movie!

[@WarriorsPhoto]

That smile is what sold me. If Rory is having that much fun then this car must be a lot of fun. I am excited to see this conversion done more often.

[@dominicrusho]

As an amateur taxidermist, I stuffed my pet dog recently! He’s so much easier to manage now. Still my beloved pal, but without the costs of food, vets bills or any of that annoying barking! Such an upgrade.

[@VarioFelce]

lmaoooooo

[@callumhardy5098]

😂😂😂😂 Spot on!

[@itsmichaelboy]

Um what

[@callumhardy5098]

@@itsmichaelboy It’s called a metaphor.

[@stephankyle6460]

I can get behind this analogy because dogs suck and so do classic cars.

[@howlinguts]

Rory and George doing great work together yet again. Presenting and filming both first rate. Best car reviews on YT

[@4literv6]

Them and the hagerty icon series vids. Equivalent to some of the finest cinematic experiences. 👍🏻

[@daveb1242]

Are you joking

[@callumhardy5098]

Ok! I have to admit this is brilliant! But I still couldn’t do without the smell, noise and originality of a classic car. How it was meant to be when it rolled off the factory line. However when the future comes and we all have to buy new electric cars and we can only get combustion fun from classics, I wouldn’t mind buying a manual electric car it looks so much better and more interesting that a dreary straight connection electric.

[@AR-zq9hq]

How do you mitigate the fact that due to all the additives, the modern gasoline and exhaust from it doesn't smell like it did back when the classic cars rolled off the line?

[@callumhardy5098]

@@AR-zq9hq petrol is pretty much the same, if you buy the higher octane E5 and if you want leaded then you can get lead additives, the exhaust can be the same that’s how uk laws work, you do up the vehicle to the specification and laws that it needed when it was new. Otherwise it is considered a modification and has to undergo otherwise rigorous testing, to make sure it is roadworthy that’s how it works at the minute.

[@AR-zq9hq]

@@callumhardy5098 everything is the same, but advances in chemical engineering and the additives added at the refineries nowadays do make it smell different, in my opinion less pleasant. Back then cars smelt of gasoline, nowadays the exhaust just stinks.

[@callumhardy5098]

@@AR-zq9hq Gasoline? I take it you’re American? In the UK our fuel standards are slightly different but I get what you mean about the slight difference in smell, I think it’s the ethanol content and fuel being unleaded. In my original comment I was talking about the general smell of burning petrol but I know what you mean. In my opinion burnt diesel without catalytic converters smells even better. But there you go maybe I’m a petrol-headed dinosaur.

[@robsmith1a]

It's great that companies are popping up to do this sort of thing. Pioneering at present but I can imagine when battery prices finally fall and power density increases this sort of thing may be possible for people on a normal budget.

[@Kronos0999]

"I can't wait till we discover rainbow unicorn power." Batter density can't just be increased because we will it, and neither can the prices fall because it is that difficult to make them and it's only gonna get more expensive the more electric cars there are.

[@PhilMGCollins]

Heavy R&D + economies of scale make it a very plausible future

[@dalexa]

@@Kronos0999 that’s really not how it works. They will improve the density as soon as someone finds a working alternative, they just need to keep researching. Remember the 80’s cellular phones and their box like batteries? Things evolve and they will get a better energy density although I reckon the price won’t be coming down but that doesn’t matter much. Smaller packs means more options like better cooling, lesser weight and faster charging.

[@Kronos0999]

@@PhilMGCollins "Heavy R&D." Yes, "heavy R&D" can also change how hammers work?

[@Kronos0999]

@@dalexa Sure, but batteries are not the future of cars. They simply can't. Maybe with something like universal battery packs which you can literally switch out at gas stations immediately. Your empty batteries go to be recharged, you get a full one instantly and move on to your destination. Batteries recharge fast these days, but not fast enough. As someone who did a long trip in a Model S, the issues and annoyances that creep up *really* make you miss the simpler times of just refilling your tank. Maybe hybrids or hydrogen cars are the future.

[@darrenstone3693]

Stunning car and a great way of bringing it into the 21st century. A clever use of clutch and gearbox as well👍

[@AKA001]

Perfect application of electrifying a classic, where the engine wasn’t the hero… It actually improves the car. Additionally you can drive this every day or park it for longer times (plugged in) and set off on those beautiful weekends or holidays without having to worry about starting or breakdowns.

[@tomwood5247]

We need this in an original mini!

[@wmbrice]

I enjoyed seeing how much Rory enjoyed this. Rory, please buy them a set of tires!

[@dangr3957]

Shifting back should enable a regen as simulation of an engine break. Great car and it’s zero emission!

[@alanjackson5438]

Amazing! My smile was beaming the whole way through this clip. And yes, mainstream manufacturers please provide this technology to the public... we will buy it!

[@Kaito_Falcon]

This is what I have been dreaming of, I am so going to figure out how to do this myself into my future cars! I don't like new cars for the most part, but I would love to take some Japanese cars from the 80's to early 2000's and do this to them. This is the best manual electric car I've seen so far, it's very inspiring!

[@akinolaolayinka8876]

This is phenomenal! I was thinking about this the other day and boom! This makes EV driving more fun!

[@karthik.g63]

A classic you can actually daily without worries. Love it ! Personally, I have been wondering about this tech for years, bolting an electric motor to a traditional gearbox. Would love to have a restomodded Fiat 1100 !

[@OhMyLaurens]

imagine Porsche created a manual EV sports car today, that thing would sell so well!

[@leonid4781]

If there is a company that is going to do this, I bet half my life savings it would be Porsche!

[@CTPAYC2323]

@@leonid4781 I'd bet my half on Mazda. They're the crazy ones.

[@totoianugheorghelucian488]

They will do something even better: synthetic fuel, the first factory is being built in Chile right now 🙌

[@OhMyLaurens]

@@totoianugheorghelucian488 that's to keep the (then) old Porsches running. not for those sold beyond.

[@lr44x13]

@@leonid4781 nah its toyota

[@777VIV]

"YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS CHILDREN??? NEVER LEARN!!!" That had me shaking to my knees

[@davidmuchiri1527]

I was so happy when you revved it. Imagine a noisy straight cut gears or sequential box in a electric car. That would be so goooooood!

[@Maelstrom8]

What a fantastic video of a fantastic idea. Three pedal electrics really make the case for enthusiast EV cars. Now if we could just get Ford to make the Mustang a low, 2 door, sport coupe again with a transmission like this... Well done, gents!

[@shinobihiriyu-originalninj4634]

This is amazing 😍 I think manufacturers should take the risk and make a sporty EV with a manual. Also try to give the car some sound, not fake noise but some cool electric sound. And then they should make the interior nice, practical and more normal, we don't need a touch screen for every thing. Give us button's for AC, radio and stuff that should be easy to control without looking while driving. Anyway cool video and keep up the great videos 😃👍

[@sneaky_krait7271]

While I don’t really car that much about manual, especially because electric doesn’t need it, I do agree they shouldn’t silence the motors. Like on the lotus evija track test

[@AzizBike]

Disagreed. Gears are dumb, and were only needed to make use of an ICE's small power band. Electric motors are superior and don't need such garbage that gets in the way of driving experience.

[@shinobihiriyu-originalninj4634]

@@AzizBike well that is your opinion and it's fine too.

[@AzizBike]

@@shinobihiriyu-originalninj4634 Not an opinion, it's fact. A single gear is faster in an EV. Faster = more fun. You are scientifically incorrect.

[@shinobihiriyu-originalninj4634]

@@AzizBike going fast is not what makes a car fun in my book, details is it ! Shifting gear, feeling the clutch and shift is satisfying if the gearbox is good. If you know how to heel and toe and rev match you know what I mean. And I know.what I talk about, I have driven electrical cars, diesel, gasoline and hybrid cars, and nothing feels as.good as a manual transmission with a gasoline engine. The Tesla is fun in a straight line couple of.times but after that its boring, you need to shift self and do some of the mechanical jobs. And when you get a great run with all gears it's so satisfying.

[@jonm4337]

I would love to own a manual transmission EV. I hope other oem manufacturers do this

[@roseysnapper]

Simply beautiful! Beautifully simple! Rory and the production team create another masterpiece of KZbin telly. Best channel on KZbin for car fans!

[@StarShootr]

It just popped in my head and did a search, and there it is, a manual-electric car. I want one! Thank you for showing this!

[@chm1701]

It's a shame they only seem to convert classic vehicles. My wife has an accident damaged 2001 Audi A3 that I wanted to restore for her one day, but this is something I'd like to do instead to bring it back for her to use. This is brilliant!

[@seunakin6961]

The joy on Rory's face alone makes me wish manufacturers should start implementing manual box in electric cars.

[@anamore]

I have gained a little hope for the inevitable electric Miata. I don't think Mazda will do something like this, but until proven otherwise I'll keep my hopes up.

[@anuratohazra]

I absolutely love it. ❤️ And also loved the way you reviewed it.

[@LoftechUK]

That’s amazing. I hope we see more of this engineering

[@Jonoponomono]

That is awesome. I have an electric car but really miss shifting so also have a Caterham. Glad to see that driver involvement may have a future.

[@hellcat1988]

I get that this is a foreign concept to some, but modern ev wouldn't exist without the restomod ev conversion culture. This isn't new. This is just a high end spin on something that's been going on for literal decades.

[@jonasweber9408]

Why modern ev wouldn't exist without the restomod ev conversion culture?

[@artemkatelnytskyi]

I like that it's not a manual just for the sake of being a manual. It actually has a function because the engine red lines at 8000 rpm. There is a question I didn't find an answer to in this video. Can you move off by letting off the clutch first and than working the "go" pedal? I would assume yes. Thanks for the video. It was beautiful.

[@GT-oy7ce]

It’s a pretty good idea. New electric cars probably won’t use manual gearbox since it’s pretty pointless when you look at the torque characteristic of an electric motor. But if you want to convert old cars to electric, nobody would bat an eye over details like performance or efficiency. You just want it to feel like as fun to drive as powered by ICE.

[@jirkazima1126]

It depends on the electric motor design. There are motors that cannot do very high rpm, but they are cheaper to produce and have good size to fit them between the gearbox and ICE. Look at modern plug-in hybrid cars. Even if they run in the "EV only" mode, the automatic gearbox is changing gears because such motors slowly decreasing available power after reaching something about 3000-3500 rpm. But for sure, they could have used a high-rpm electric motor and direct drive here like with regular BEVs (it would require irreversible changes in the car chassis though). On the other side, in certain countries, it is much easier to pass the legal procedures when the conversion does not involve the gearbox change (not sure about now, but at least in the past in Czech Republic, this was the case here).

[@raykeogh1972]

That is AMAZING that car has a life span of 400 years plus no some thing the petrol engine will be lucky to have 100 years, I would buy that today if I have that sort of cash not only that I would have a garage full of my favourite past time cars full of them the first ( please don’t send a hit squad after me ) a 1967 Mustang Shelby. Thank you so much for sharing I will be passing this around like no other video I’ve ever watched plus I will down load this to my iPad thanks again WOW made my day off even better. Ray K UK YNWA

[@marcusburger1523]

If it was cheaper I would love to convert my little fiesta in such a manner. I know it aint a classic or anything but I would love it.

[@chronicmachines6717]

In love with this car, Beautiful car that is still fun to drive and doesn't harm the planet as much. This is the future for all older cars.

[@rodgerreid2560]

Yes we going retro ev.. I'd love to see the Ford capri mk1 go e.. That would be cool.. Yes sir you definitely have my attention.. Keep up the brilliant work you are doing Mr Reid.. 💯 %

[@ChasHanks]

I has a ‘65 356C. God, I loved that car.

[@Peongster]

Knob gang stand up!!! Me watching around the room first cuz it might be a trick.

[@apexerman1]

Finally! An electric conversion with a manual. Kudos to the Electrogenic engineering. The only caveat I heard in the presentation was the issue with downshifting. Downshifting is an integral part of the manual experience and Rory seemed to suggest the car "shutters." That's unfortunate. I didn't hear any mention of regen braking. Is it possible downshifting could act in this fashion? When one goes to a lower gear, the added resistance on the motor translates to regen? Still, the overall package certainly enhances the drive and reduces the antiseptic experience of most electric cars.

[@darmou]

I suspect he means if you downshift too quick, similar if you went straight from 4th to 2nd the card would not like it but I assume if you slow down and go to third no problem.

[@weed46]

Keep it. I want an original one that makes noise and has a proper air cooled engine.

[@carsandcrows9921]

Now just add the ability to pop the clutch to start it up (add a jittery effect to the motor), some sputtering sound effects, and I'm sold!

[@oldred9122]

This is exactly the kind of project car I dream of building. 4 gears seems perfect for an EV, and being able to rev the motor in neutral is a nice touch.

[@brianpercival1829]

Wow! Rory this blew my mind. Having driven a Prius and a Leaf electric cars are boring. Just basic transportation to work and home. This is amazing. The looks and handling, the gears make the experience of driving. An excellent review.

[@The.JZA.]

I love the idea of a small, "light" electric car with a manual gearbox. Imagine if Subaru/Toyota chucked an electric motor in their BRZ/86? Or if Mazda did the same to their MX5/Miata? If they can put a decent range for daily commutes or a weekend blast without messing up the weight or balance then that would be a seriously cool car that would probably sell millions.

[@bukkuk5949]

Yes .. not every classic cars suits electrification .. but .. Fiero .. Miata or MR2 .. (with dead petrol engines) seems to be perfect ...

[@DMSBrian24]

with the current technology you cannot have light and electric, unless you can accept a pathetic range

[@harrisrajpoot.4336]

Thank god we have an Electric that feels alive

[@MrGazhay]

Since seeing Electric Classic Cars do this a few years ago, I don’t understand why this is not done more. Particularly with old hot hatches. There are even external exhaust speaker systems now to add the engine noise (of any engine sound you download) if you wish. Great point here Rory. 👍

[@NickFoster]

Because for 95% of cars out there it's simply not worth the cost. A classic like this is worth bringing up to date, your mum's hatchback not so much.

[@apexerman1]

Please, no fake engine noises. Embrace the whine.

[@bukkuk5949]

@@apexerman1 .. interesting comment .... I think whine is best when we talking big Superchargers on V8s -)

[@bukkuk5949]

Yes .. not every classic cars suits electrification .. but .. Fiero .. Miata or MR2 .. (with dead petrol engines) seems to be perfect ...

[@stefdnk4428]

All the converted 2CVs I have seen has kept the gearbox and Many other too. The sad Think is thathers cars Are converted to Rich kids toys because of the Price. Not that the 356 already is😀

[@trenttrevorrow5648]

Just swapped the automatic movement in a vintage Rolex for a 99p Japanese quartz movement. At least its accurate now.

[@scanspeak00]

I'd love to know how much range improvement you get from having a manual EV. Surely its huge.

[@4literv6]

Its less efficent and heavier so no range improvement, kinda like how automatics became faster than manuals around 15 year's ago now. And as soon as that happened manuals went the way of the dodo. Instead you can expect some range reduction vs a single speed reduction drive gearbox as is the standard for evs. Even Porsche admitted they only did the 2 speed rear trans for the taycan because is helped initial acceleration up to 60mph. And other evs on sale today still spank the taycan with their single speed reduction drive gearbox. Rimac&aspark have done 1.6s 0-60 runs on the st while on st legal tires. 😎

[@Evohunter7]

Holy cow! What a great idea! Low RPM, low power & torque motor as well. Brilliant!

[@markdavis2475]

According to DVLA, it's now shown as electric but the registration date is Sept 2018. So does this mean it will still need an MOT?

[@isaks3243]

as an owner of a rare classic grand tourer sports wagon can I say that the internal combustion engine in that one won't be swapped out until absolutely the last possible moment and when that day sadly comes and I will have to say good bye to the awezome noise it makes will the solution become something similar to what Electrogenic have done here. but to on purpose make it so that it makes more sound will I most probably not direct drive the original gearbox but instead have a set of straight cut gears between the electric motor and the gearbox. it will still be real mechanical sound and not played through a speaker and it will make more noise which means that it will be easier to know when to shift gears.

[@zackzhang6394]

Rory! You’re back!

[@darwinskeeper421]

I was sold on this sort of thing long before this video. I've played with the idea of going electric before, my original plan was to use a WarP11 DC motor, but my employment situation fell apart while I was starting to put things together. This is something I'd like to do, either with one of my American classics but the cost and lack of a conversion company near the American midwest have convinced me to pursue other projects.

[@Andrew9565-AD]

I like this. Works very good for us petrol heads ( if you ignore the sound ).Who had this brilliant idea and concept?

[@MichaelFalcon-g3f]

besides the acceleration, the gearbox also gives energy savings. less rev's= less power consumption=more distance on a single charge. i've been preaching this for a couple of years now

[@Bmontepeque11]

We can have Manual EVs?! This is amazing! :O,

[@4literv6]

Plenty of others have done them already. Ev west has ev conversions going back over 5 year's now with manuals.

[@magnusmoulton6376]

It's been awhile since I've watched an autotrader video and its amazing to see wayyyy more confidence and comfort in front of the camera and the production is amazing! great job!

[@soufrider6765]

When I became rich the first thing is to buy this car 📝❤️

[@navehal1019]

Someone should use this to reborn all the dead classics antiques n retro classics pls. So many dying n rusting all over earth can be reuse n reborn. Forget about the memories n car being part of your family n life, which every petrol heart would want for their car to outlive him/her. Awesome video, it's a hope n dream for my car to be alive in future

[@olwethudabigfan6816]

I know Rory explain this But I'm still wondering how an electric car hase a gearbox

[@jebidiahcarlyon3543]

I think a lot of us have had this idea. Usually if you tell the internet you want to strap an electric motor to a manual, the response is uniformly: "The transmission will explode." Now I am reconsidering this type of project. I think this video has left out a major piece of the puzzle though, what have they done to the transmission? Is it truly stock, or have they gone through and reinforced some of the thrust surfaces to handle something in the neighborhood 200+ torques? I definitely agree that Model S acceleration is not needed or even desired in a classic sports car.

[@michaelbrown9031]

This type of EV makes sense for a dinosaur like me (I'm not that old, I just prefer the ICE generation of cars) it looks like a riot to drive which is a plus, and I wouldn't say no to one. But I'd miss the sounds, smells and visceral feel of driving an ICE car as that all adds to my enjoyment of driving them.

[@patlalla148]

This video is special. This video is just beyond what you think your going to get. I'm so lucky. Thank you again Rory.,

[@user-ft2md2gd4s]

now i have to investigate the engineering behind the gear shifting

[@coachhardgainz]

Easily my new favorite channel on KZbin!! Love the production of every video. As an American it’s so nostalgic for me to see the back roads of the UK being torn up much like Mike and Ed would do back in the days of Wheeler Dealer ;) Love this channel ❤️ -Adam Mr HardgainZ

[@georgesriachi8485]

Why has everybody already given up on ICE cars? Electric cars are not as environmentally friendly as people think. The mining and refining process of lithium, which is the main component of ev batteries, causes huge amounts of pollution. Furthermore, EVs are made in a way that the batteries can't be replaced, so after about 10 years the batteries won't be able to carry charge as they used to, same as an old cell phone, rendering the car useless. Also, what should we do with the millions of ICE cars that have been built, wouldn't it be more environmentally friendly to use what we have instead of throwing them away? Porsche are developing new biofuels which when used in any ICE car produces 85% less CO2 than normal fuel without any changes to the engine. Porsche will produce 100,000L of this fuel in 2022, and is already using it to power the 2021 Porsche Cup series. This with electric cars might be a good solution for the future, but saying that ICE cars are gone and EVs will be the only modes of transportation in the future is misleading and false.

[@nordic5490]

Get up to speed mate. EVs emit less than half the greenhouse gas that ice does over a 20yr life cycle (full cradle to grave). If you source your electricity from renewables, then evs emit

[@georgesriachi8485]

@@nordic5490 What I'm saying is that the best solution is biofuels and EVs together. We can't just say that ICE cars are dead and rely solely on EVs. Furthermore, ships and planes will remain reliant on fuels for a long time. Therefore, wouldn't it be more environmentally friendly to produce a less polluting fuel for them? A single flight from London to New York produces more pollution than the entire F1 season with all sessions and cars combined. If an environmentally friendly fuel is produced for planes and ships, then a similar version of it could also be used for cars and trucks. Together with EVs, this might help making mobility in the future more environmentally friendly.

[@CaffeineAndMylanta]

Very neat. I’m surprised the original transmission can handle all the torque!

[@zuti071]

This is great and fresh idea. EV with manual gearbox.

[@robertsteel3563]

I am amazed! If more companies do this, I'll be really happy!

[@who_stole_my_username]

Nice review, Rory, but I hope all these people converting old cars to electric are keeping the original engines safely stored to be refitted when the world wakes up to the folly of mass electrification, and the we all switch to combustion of synthetic fuels instead.

[@TristanYeah]

Burning anything is the issue, synthetic or not.

[@who_stole_my_username]

@@TristanYeah No, burning fossil fuels is the issue, because that is adding to the carbon cycle by unlocking old carbon. Synthetic fuels do not add to the carbon cycle because they are made from existing free carbon.

[@HaroldWorth]

@@TristanYeah When these cars do minimal mileage anyway. Are you going to electrify The Flying Scotsman next?

[@TristanYeah]

@@HaroldWorth Nope, but I’d put it in a museum if it isn’t already. Coal dust and smoke is absolutely toxic. No need to poison the environment in the name of nostalgia

[@TristanYeah]

@@who_stole_my_username aside from the other issues resulting in burning carbon based fuels (lung cancers etc) and the general toxicity of them when they enter the environment, free electrons make much more sense. It doesn’t matter anyway, nobody is interested in synfuels. Tesla will be the biggest company in the world within a decade and EVs will be everywhere whether you like it or not

[@allwheeldrive]

Now we're talkin'!!! And it'll only get better/much cheaper as the battery tech improves. So many older rigs SHOULD be converted. Thanks for the review.

[@parmeshwaranacharya575]

This is how an electric car should be made ,an electric car with stick .first dislike was made by Mr. musk.

[@engleblerthumferlumpadinck6536]

Take an ultra efficient electric motor, then needlessly add some consumable parts, complexity, friction losses, and weight.... in the name of "driver involvement"? 🤔 What's next, an electric pogo stick with DC rapid charging?

[@hemingwaybromfield3722]

Nobody drives a resto-mod because it's practical.

[@engleblerthumferlumpadinck6536]

@@hemingwaybromfield3722 I see. I look forward to the Mk2 356 restomod. I hear it'll be pulled along by robotic horses

[@TobiasRieper047]

Finally. They heard my prayers. I've been saying for a while now since EV's came out, why people couldn't simulate combustion engines, they've been doing it in video games and movies for years. With the right amount of effort you could bring back and tune down electronically all these vehicles to feel and hand;e the same way, heck you could even with some potential, make specified settings depending on the road conditions. Is it a new era for oldtimers? Yes, Sure, nothing beats the good ol' stuff, but this can light in a complete new chapter. I was always somewhat stubborn on liking EV's, but this I've been waiting for!

[@TroyHR123]

You haven't convinced me that 356 has retained its soul at all; which is slightly depressing for a petrol head. Even more depressing, every commoner EV I have seen recently has looked like a Zanussi on wheels.

[@jeffzekas]

Very cool. Even better: replace the body and chassis with a modern alloy frame and fiberglass body.

[@adamrodrigues1617]

You are so wrong..electric will never substitute petrol engines. The soul is gone its going without any life. It is complete heartless

[@denisgauthier3410]

I truly enjoyed your video, your enthusiasm towards this magnificent vehicle is contagious. Thank you so much:))

[@Ervin-1190]

‘An EV For Petrolheads!’ Right, because petrolheads dont care about the sound a engine and exhaust makes.

[@Joel_stbd]

Thank you Rory for another great review. Please continue to give us these reviews for the next 20+ years. I am willing to pay if I have to make that happen lol.

[@Jerod_Helt]

Cool idea. Why not just use reverse gear in the gear box rather than the lever in front of the shifter? I drive my 65 356 C almost every day with the original engine, in all types of driving conditions. It’s still very much a usable car today. But I do really like this type of EV conversion.

[@Wa-wk6qk]

Very, very nice presentor. Really love the way he talks and explains

[@stephencook754]

Love it, and would consider converting our 356. I will counter that you can use these cars daily. I commuted for over ten years in ours, accumulating over 150k without anything needed other than annual oil changes and tune ups. They can be extremely reliable. A case could be made for feeling vulnerable in modern traffic, buy come on, live a little!

[@csmarkham]

Another 356 owner here, considering an EV conversion. This or my Boxster though? I have to figure out which engine sound I'd miss more! I think I'd miss the lightness of the 356 w/added battery weight. And the Boxster S could handle 400hp---assuming room for the batteries!

[@absash7838]

Love electrogenic, love this channel, thanks for sharing this...!

[@mrspect9635]

best electric car ever mantual trans thats crazy

[@looneytoons171]

This may be the best way to keep classics relevant. Once the internal combustion engine dies on cars like the MX5, MR2 etc, I have a feeling that the uptake for a modern retrofit will be quite popular and will also breed a new generation of engineering. As Brits, we should really embrace such a revolution as tinkering in a garage is part of our heritage.

[@bukkuk5949]

Yes .. not every classic cars suits electrification .. but .. Fiero .. Miata or MR2 .. (with dead petrol engines) seems to be perfect ...

[@looneytoons171]

@@bukkuk5949 basically anything with a 4 cylinder engine is a prime candidate in my opinion

[@looneytoons171]

@Truth Teller no they won't. Hate to break it to you but we have around 10-15 years left before we are unable to fuel these cars

[@looneytoons171]

@Truth Teller Yeah, exactly that. Ok so long shot but I'm going to bet you're either American or live in a third world country, therefore your thinking is about 3 decades back. In the real world, that is where most cars are made, the transition to green tech is advancing at such a pace that yes, in 10 years, you will struggle to find a fuel station to fill your dinosaur powered car. In fact, if you bothered to do any research you will find that most major European cities will outright ban diesel cars in the next 3 years and unleaded probably a few years after that. Where I live, you would be an idiot to not buy a hybrid at the very least because road tax and cost of fuel is incredibly punishing. So just in case you didn't understand, it's not that you wont be able to buy gasoline, you would just need to travel really far and pay a lot to get it since the demand would have dwindled by 2030.

[@looneytoons171]

@Truth Teller clearly you're incapable comprehending the difference between "unable" and "incapable". You are also unable to understand that dwindling demand will mean fuel stations will eventually be phased out therefore fulfilling the prophecy I mentioned earlier. Where's the lie? The Audi E-tron is the fastest selling car in Norway. 55% of all new cars sold in this country are electric. In Europe as a whole, sales of electric vehicles are the fastest growing segment and in some countries like the UK, they increased sales by more than 100% over 2019. If you cant see the writing on the wall, you should get your head checked. I won't argue with you. Believe what you like.

[@goingoutotheparty1]

That is a Beautiful and respectful re-build !