FLOWER, SUN, AND RAIN : Sequel Anxiety

[@maraganger]

PATREON : www.patreon.com/maraganger TWITTER : twitter.com/maraganger Sorry for the wait on this one ! The reception from Laika ended up overwhelming me, so I didn't expect almost pulling two months on the FSR vid. Though I'm very proud of it, and that's pretty rare to say. ; w ;

[@KBash]

Introing with 2+ minutes of therapy, setting that tone YES

[@maraganger]

After the journey I had making this, it felt p. much necessary lmaO !

[@spooky0407]

Ayo, Kbash?!

[@GiovanniScorpio777]

@@spooky0407 that's how you know you found a real one

[@elementallobsterx]

Honestly, the opening song “Welcome To Losspass” was one of the main things that got me into this game. It’s… simply the best song ON the DS. I played it in summer of 2022 after my trips to the pool and it was… perfect.

[@Abszilla51]

Just wanna say, thank you for making this. You might guess, but I really, really love this game. Unfortunately, due to its obtuse nature there are very few people who have talked about it in a way that captures what makes this game so beautiful to me, this video being the exception. Thank you for loving Flower, Sun, and Rain!

[@maraganger]

Glad it resonated with you so much ! :>

[@M4m4.]

you have one of the coolest channels ever. 45 minute fsr video that does the game complete justice in analyzing its style and narrative is everything i could ask for

[@maraganger]

Glad you vibed with it ! B)

[@caslloveer0]

real

[@Oknopuac]

You don’t know how much I understand what you said about music, one of my favorite quotes comes from a composer, the Armored Core composer to be specific (paraphrasing, probably) “I just threw tracks together until it sounds cool” :3

[@maraganger]

Aaaah yeah Kota Hoshino has such a good method of composing, probably why he's so up there in my esteem !

[@Eyeballzilla]

I was recommended your Planet Laika video, and am really glad I was. I love your style, your vibe, the cut of your jib. You've turned me on to some good games, and inspired me to look for games that vibe with me on a deeper level. You are helping me to want to dig deeper into just why the games that are important to me jive with me so hard. I like your stuff. It's cool as hell.

[@maraganger]

Aw thank you so much, I'm so glad it allowed you to have that sort of introspective ! :>

[@gatzsuds]

That gun with limited bullets feature would have been so cool

[@flamingcow5916]

"dumb of brain, and thick of ass" truer words have never been spoken

[@SrKing-dm4ku]

I really wanna come back to this, and play the game first, but I wanna say something about how this game looks. Have you ever stretched an image and saw the artifacting that comes with it? I like doing sketches and art in MS Paint, and there’s some sort of emotion that stretching artifacts and contrasting resolutions provide. It’s like seeing the brushstrokes of a painting, or how linework, which doesn’t exist in real life, can be used for expression. I haven’t really seen anywhere else… except in the DS port as I see it here?! The roads look stretched out, which adds to the feeling of a long highway. The low res environment textures paired with high def eyes is amazing! As a designer first, programmer and artist second I really wanna experiment with this aesthetic! Thanks for introducing this to me!!!

[@stephenanthony5923]

From a classical perspective, the success of art is not in the delight it produces in the experiencer but how closely it conveys the intent and message of the artist(s) or at least completes some kind of communicative loop of understanding between creator(s) and experiencer(s). Invoking pleasure or satisfaction in the experiencer can be an important part of the work, but I don't think it's required to exist in the work to be considered art. Appealing to pleasure and expectations only can muddle the intent and message. It can befuddle the recipient's mind and make the media feel hollow. So that's why you can't always give people what they want, and why they're never really happy if they do get it. Great video.

[@kodai25th]

This is my favorite game, thank you for making this video!

[@maraganger]

It's a pleasure, thank you for watching it ! :>

[@g00p85]

"Every day is the same but different. Every day is the same but different. Every day is the same but different." You are an extremely creative writer. This is not a compliment, that is just the reality of what you are.

[@maraganger]

Thank you so much ! ; w ;

[@yehuda8589]

This was a great video! FSR is my all-time favorite game, it basically inspired me to start writing myself. It's the first piece of media I've ever experienced that felt like it made just for me, it's awesome. You really give voice in your vids to something I feel really strongly that I realize (despite how much capital-G Gamers would clown on me for it) I care more about the story, aesthetics, and overall vibes of games more than the actual gameplay. I like how you also gave credit to the other people besides Suda who made FSR possible, I always feel like Akira Ueda in particular never gets enough credit for the stuff he's made what with Contact just kinda being written off by most people as a Mother-ripoff. Anyway I just want to make the small addendum that FSR also took a lot of inspiration from Franz Kafka's The Castle, they're both stories about abrasive and strange dudes getting called in to a strange place to do a job only to spend more time getting sidetracked by said places weird inhabitants. Kurayami Dance wasn't Suda's only work that took inspiration from it.

[@maraganger]

Aaah I didn't know about the Kafka inspiration, despite loving the shit out of The Metamorphosis, that's so cool to know ! Also so glad you vibed with the vid. :>

[@C1c4da]

so glad youre still making videos

[@DanielSantosAnalysis]

"It can quickly devolve into 8 hours of me forcefully shoving trivia down your mouth" Can't just threaten me with a good time like that! Jokes aside, I am so bummed this game is only on the DS, it seems so cool and unique, I would love to play this on Steam. You killed it with this video, the vibes are as immaculate as always.

[@maraganger]

I feel you so hard ! Suda apparently announced and confirmed a port "some day" but that day has defo yet to come. Also thank you, so glad you vibed with it. :>

[@madroscla]

I only knew this game by name, didn't even realize it was a Suda game. This was the perfect intro for me to suddenly become insanely interested in it Great stuff!

[@maraganger]

So glad you vibed with it, hell yeah ! B)

[@mayacarter4403]

I was first introduced to your channel with the Laika video, and have since ravenously consumed the rest of your videos. So excited to see this drop today! I really appreciate the effort and passion put in, and it's really clear in the final product. Very big fan!

[@mayacarter4403]

Oh, and I had to pick up Lunacid after your video on it. It really surprised me, and it might just be my favorite game now????

[@maraganger]

@@mayacarter4403 Aw I'm glad to hear ! Thank you so much for the kind words. ; w ;

[@serella]

the VIBES on that opening and outro, hell yeah. I feel like the pacing and tone of this one is prolly your best yet tbh. I really gotta check out more Suda stuff; I only really know Killer7 but your vids have def sold me on the other shit too.

[@maraganger]

Thank you ! Suda's stuff comes at more than a recommendation from me, I'm sure you'd vibe with a lot of his darker toned stuff ! :>

[@XyNoST]

OMG IT IS FINALLY HERE !!! You just made my night there ! :)

[@maraganger]

Hope you enjoy ! :>

[@XyNoST]

@@maraganger it took me two days to watch it (exhausting week at work) but 110% worth it ! You are totally gaining skills in every videos you make and I love that ! Keep up the good work and long live Suda 51 et la sauterelle !

[@CanoaFurada-uk4lr]

Great video as always. Flower Sun And Rain is a beast to talk and you made look easy

[@maraganger]

Aw thank you so much ! ; w ;

[@CanoaFurada-uk4lr]

@@maraganger I watched all of your content and you are becoming kinda of a inspiration for me (but I only write so far). Is great how natural your content is and even when your focus isn't something that I care so much about the game in question you make really good points and even expand a bit of my vision in some cases (like this video that I didn't get much about how this game is Suda way to show his style for everyone, I was more focused on how this game handled the concept of personal paradise and handling with owns troubles). Your videos so far are really good, hyping to see the next one

[@maraganger]

@@CanoaFurada-uk4lr Thank you so much, that means the world for me to hear ! ; v ;

[@xanakina]

Another Suda banger!! Thank you for sharing such a wonderful view on such a cool game!! Again, your graphics are a treat to the eyes!! Can't wait to see what you'll do next!! Great start to the new year!

[@maraganger]

Aaaah thank you so much Xan ! Your words always mean the world to me. ; w ;

[@whatsupcycle]

Also chiming in to say I love your writing style and vibe. I always look forward to your videos! You da best!

[@maraganger]

Aw thank you !

[@michalbartos2808]

Hey, I only just stumbled upon your videos, but I wanted to compliment your style! The passion you have for the subject matter comes through and the visual elements are great. I hope you get plenty more viewers and continue making this high-quality stuff!

[@maraganger]

Thank you so much, so happy you vibed with it ! :>

[@ughughhguhguhughughgugh8521]

Your videos have actually made me consider playing through The Silver Case and all this now. Thank you.

[@maraganger]

Aw hell yeah, hope you enjoy the ride !

[@holly____99999]

While i admit it stumped me a couple times to the point of resorting to looking up a guide, i actually really enjoyed the puzzle system in FSR. Using the guidebook serves a dual purpose, imo: it provides a framework to use to determine solutions to puzzles, and also fleshes out the lore, context, and characters of the island, which i think is just really bright game/story design. Regardless of the reality/place in the KTP narrative Losspass holds, i really felt intimately connected to the place when i was done with it. People talk about how Sumio is basically suda's spin on agent cooper in twin peaks, and i think that's really applicable here; mondo comes into the island as an outsider, and despite initial hostility from the residents, through the process of investigation he really finds a home with and love for the people of losspass, making the ending even more bittersweet.

[@sansfromcoolmathgames]

hey i just wanna say that this whole thing you got going on here on this channel? impeccable. effervescent. absolute quality. chef's kiss. utube recommendations did some shit right for once. i hope you get to keep enjoying and creating things for as long as you want to, whether utube related or not. peace n love

[@ibilesfighter3.16]

this video is the reason i got into suda51 games tbh goated video

[@ASwagPecan]

Your confidence is very inspirational; I love your videos

[@HellThrob]

As everyone else has already mentioned, your vibe and editing is wonderful. It creates a great atmosphere and one that is very fitting for the games you cover. I am most impressed with your writing style however. Watching a few of your videos has given off the impression that the essays/scripts you write are extremely dense, covering the entire game with almost nothing but interesting information; which is most definitely a feat few others possess. Looking forward to watching more of your videos. P.S. It most likely helps that you're covering all of my favorite games but you're still a great writer regardless!

[@maraganger]

Aw thank you so much, it means a lot to hear ! Hope you'll enjoy the rest. B)

[@yoppimedia]

such a good vid! super thoughtful and passionate. instantly grabbed me with that intro

[@maraganger]

I'm so glad to hear ! I had a feeling the intro would connect a lot with fellow creatives. ; w ;

[@FlickTakFlakAttack]

HOLY crap, someone in 2023 who knows about FSR!!! My friend recommended this channel, but I never thought I'd find someone talk about my secret gaming love

[@Timegal25]

Ooo, your KTP stuff is always so well done on every aspect. Here's hoping that FSR remake is real cause I've been wanting to play this game.

[@maraganger]

Aw thank you ! I know Suda confirmed a remake a while back but we've yet to see anything come out of it beyond just "it's happening one day" so I'll keep hoping. ; w ;

[@IBigPrivateDickChinchillaI]

That Sumio drawing and Grasshopper James reaction to it during that one game studio tour vid pretty much confirms it. The hype is real!

[@loganderksen4766]

this channel is dope, i have officially smoked it all

[@dandiaz1992]

This looks really good specially aesthically. I will emulate soon. Your editing keeps getting better and better 👍

[@maraganger]

Thank you ! ; w ;

[@rhia.1234]

i really enjoy your videos and am very pleased the algo graced me with your channel :3

[@maraganger]

Aw thank you, glad you've enjoyed ! :>

[@Falshoinin]

Mara continues to make the best video essays.

[@maraganger]

Aw thank you ! ; A ;

[@kayisthey]

i know nothing about these games but this was a very entertaining and inspiring watch from beginning to end 🫶

[@nn8009]

good vid, i just recently got into kill the past originally with nmh 1 and 2 but i went back to play the silver case and loved it, definitely excited to get started on fsr these kind of aesthetically unique games are exactly what i need, keep spreading knowledge about the series!

[@chillbump5845]

I'm so happy to have clicked on your Planet Laika video, your videos have consistently blown me away with how much care you put into the videos you make. I hope to see you cover more work from Suda51 at some point! Either way, I can't way to see your next video, lovely work as usual! ❤

[@maraganger]

Aw thank you so much ! ; w ;

[@mrgus8106]

Beautiful and awesome video, i loved it!

[@melvinsantos9756]

Really hope this gets a remaster of either the DS or ps2 version

[@docbaker3333]

You Know I remember seeing this on the Nintendo Site way back in the day you know when the DS is Vogue never it was a Suda game until the Mid-2010's but after hearing the description of the story it definitely sounds like his work.

[@kingdongho571]

KZbin has been recommending me some banger channels lately, I love it. I remember finding this game as a child while I was looking for 'Ace Attorney type games' to play and well... I guess if you squint a bit lol. Had no idea what to do, although it probably didn't help that I could only understand a bit of English back then. I didn't even know it was related to other games. Bought both Silver Cases fairly recently but haven't gotten around to playing them yet, so I skipped the end of the video where you talked about its connections to that. I might have to return to FSR (and this video) once I'm finished with those games then. Could definitely be an interesting and possibly nostalgic experience

[@slendysensei]

Was getting worried not to see your content and hear your lovely voice

[@maraganger]

Aw thank you ! Sorry for the wait. ; v ;

[@DIEBOZBT]

I LOVE THIS GAME, AND SOMETHING IN MY GUT TOLD ME THAT YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS IN PARTICULAR GOOD JOB MARA!!! ♥

[@maraganger]

Aw thank you ! :>

[@Flingus435.]

Always great too see a flower sun and rain video

[@shiquataphus2269]

Bat shit insane that this releases just three weeks after i heard about this then beat this game

[@maraganger]

Aw hell yeah, that's some good timing !

[@Hunterverse]

CHRISTINA Why, why is there no more Christina in the video- oh my goodness. Though in all seriousness, I'm really glad you covered Flower, Sun, and Rain! I've never played any of Suda's games before, apart from maybe, I believe that I have a vague, distant memory of playing Shadows of The Dammed, but other than that, no experience at all. Though, in particular, I would hear people talk about Lollipop Chainsaw, No More Heroes, Silver Case and most recently, thanks to you, Killer 7. While whenever I heard people discuss FSR they'd glaze over it, basically call it whacky and move on to the other entries of Suda's portfolio. So not only do I appreciate that you took the time to go into FSR more, but I'm stoked that I can vicariously experience it through you lmao On the note of sequels, I think as much as I dig a sequel that is in a similar vein to what came before it, personally I want sequels to be more out there! Not in terms of scope, but if we are talking about games, I want that sequel to be different, for it to genre hop, change settings, have whole different mechanics even. I don't know, it feels like people have this idea that sequels should all but replace what came before it and I don't vibe with that. On the opposite end of things, I do vibe with Grasshopper manufacture's approach to game design. The combination of that meta focus as well that, "we do what we want because it's how we envision our games to be" type mentality, which is hella groovy. Something I've seen and noticed is that no matter what you do, as an artist, there are going to be people that aren't going to like the stuff you make. And I feel that the more and more you attempt to appeal to everyone, or even to an imaginary audience, the art that you end up making starts becoming further and further away from that element that makes it beautiful in the first place, that element being the artist themselves, their experience, and essentially their vison on the world. Hitting it out of the park again Mara, thanks for such a gnarly video. Also this goes without saying but the pacing for the transitions are superb.

[@maraganger]

Thank you so much, I'm so glad you've vibed with it ! FSR was such a trip both game wise but also production-wise for this vid'. Actual factual meta-contextual journey of figuring out why I had so much trouble making a sequel video to a game I loved, ended up in fact becoming about said sequel anxiety. I'm hoping to keep that sort of format and pacing for the future. ; w ;

[@Hunterverse]

@@maraganger I think that anxiety is always going to be there, no matter what you're making. Though as long as you make things how you want them to be, I'm sure you will always find the right way forward. You're kicking ass right now and I know you'll keep it up.

[@FullSaphir]

Well, I recently play Kill The Past titles (Silver Case, 25th Ward, FSR and Killer7) and now that I saw your videos, I have to say that I totally agree with your point of view on them. You really understood what a video game can be and how this medium can be use by the creator to make a unique experience. And you don't focus only on the style or depth of those games but both, which is really great to see. Now we only have to wait for a Twilight Syndrom fan translation, I saw a spanish one in work. Maybe they are hope for a english one. Bref, franchement c'est stylé.

[@maraganger]

Thank you so much, I'm glad you had a good time with my stuff. The long term goal really is to make it so that style and substance are both treated equally. As for Twilight Syndrome, I'm really looking forward to it. Same goes for Moonlight who also got its prologue translated to Spanish, hopefully that sparks some more interest in getting them done in English. Merci encore pour les compliments ! ; w ;

[@FullSaphir]

@@maraganger I could say that for any niche game that never get a translation in any form but : it's time for us to learn japanese, they are way too many games that never were translated. Another cool thing about your channel : I can discover cool games that I didn't know with only your videos titles like Planet Laika or Hypnagogia. En tout cas, merci pour les vidéos, ça fait toujours plaisir de voir quelqu'un parler avec passion !

[@maraganger]

Yeah it's defo in the cards haha ! Even though phonetically it's not too hard, learning hiragana and katakana has been a pain in the ass. Anyways, I'm glad you've enjoyed et je vais faire sure que d'autre titres inconnus vont apparaître bientôt. B)

[@video_witch]

I haven't played FSR but it has so many cool vibes. Great vid as always

[@maraganger]

aaaa Thank you so much !! Hope you eventually pick it up, it comes at the highest of my recommendations. B)

[@g00p85]

Excuse me, great ganger, but could you tell me what the game is at 2:20 and where that beautiful cinematography at the start of the video is from? Asking you's my last resort. I've already looked everywhere and got nowhere.

[@maraganger]

Oh no worries ! The game at 2:20 is Copper Odyssey, an RPG Maker game I've covered a bit ago. The shots in the intro are from the promotional vids of Flower, Sun and Rain (music video called Anata no Tameni.)

[@g00p85]

​@@maraganger God bless you. I'm defo playing this!

[@maraganger]

@@g00p85 Hope you'll enjoy !

[@mysteriousdbzgt]

Great video!

[@maraganger]

Thank you ! :>

[@yoshibros8904]

Suda's writing is amazing, judging by English translation. Sadly, I can't experience it in original, but I wonder how great is it from Japanese perspective

[@caslloveer0]

Im learning Japanese rn and im so excited to play fsr in Japanese

[@hav_bs0lll]

Man I just bought a NDS with the only purpose t finish the game , no regrets

[@pliskin5161]

I love these videos I love this channel

[@ASwagPecan]

I want to play it so bad

[@mooxsir]

Just beat the game and it is easily the most 6/10 game. I mean this in a non derogatory way. Can't wait to get to the 25th ward

[@emiliozacarias5501]

First time watching your vids, this was a banger!! I gotta ask, where did you find the hd cover of the game for the thumbnail?

[@maraganger]

Thank you, glad you vibed with it ! Also the thumbnail's render doesn't come from the cover but instead from an HD scanned version of the artbook / Lospass Guide. :>

[@emiliozacarias5501]

@@maraganger I see, thanks for the answer!

[@gatinhadepresiva]

Que vídeo incrível, meu Deus 😔🫶

[@dreamEnd]

In an age of remake and remaster, I really wish they would re-release this game with Eng TL for modern consoles. Sure we can still play the DS version since it's in English, but games like AA4-6 just got announced for remaster recently, wish this one would receive the same treatment.

[@maraganger]

Suda's confirmed in 2015 iirc, that he wants to get it done somehow but no news since. Let's hope it eventually happens. ; v ;

[@brocklegomaster]

New Mara!

[@BasedGodZolus]

“Dumb of brain and thick of…” MARA PLS 😩

[@Deep_wolf]

there are ts1, ts2, ms and b+ playthroughs with eng subs here on youtube, if you weren't aware before.

[@maraganger]

Oh I know the folks who made them ye ; Paradise Hotel 51 and aRdW. Just waiting for actual translations and not just playthroughs. :

[@Deep_wolf]

@@maraganger cool, maybe in next 51 years.

[@maraganger]

@@Deep_wolf Nah don't worry, I know a couple of folks who are working hard at making that stuff available to the greater English-speaking public. B)

[@Deep_wolf]

@@maraganger should've learned japanese 10 years ago, haha, i know...

[@rustysteelpipe5885]

REMINDER TO KISS THE HOMIES GOODNIGHT

[@kimchi-ys7lu]

rly cool

[@onetitwndr]

Oh, that's cool

[@CosmicWhovian]

Can I have a link to the backround song in the first 3 minuets of the video please?

[@maraganger]

Gymnopédie #1 by E. Satie from Flower, Sun and Rain. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6Ozhnqhga6bjJo

[@giha.3347]

list of games presented in the video?

[@maraganger]

Here's a full list of every media presented in order (including games, shows and animations, without doubles). If you got trouble finding something just hook me up with a timestamp. - Yume Nikki - Milk Inside a Bag of Milk - Copper Odyssey - Kowloon's Gate - Galerians - Killer7 - Maria Kimitachi ga Umareta Wake - Popee the Performer (Show) - LSD Dream Emulator - Yaku Yuujou Dangi - .hack//Quarantine - Planet Laika - Twilight Syndrome - Segare Ijiri - Juggernaut - Planet DoB - Kuro no Juusan - Hylics - Azusa 999 - Forget me Not Palette - Shujin e no Pert em Hru - Another Moon Whistle - Space Funeral - OFF - Fear & Hunger 2 : Termina - Re:Curse - HalOPE - An Outcry - 8:11 - Paper Angel - Zelle - Moon Remix RPG Adventure - Yume 2kki - Hylics 2 - REFIXION - deSPIRIA - Garage Bad Dream Adventure - Chu-Teng - Doki Oki - Iblard: Laputa no Kaeru Machi - Screaming Mad George's Paranoiascape - Minton Keibu no Sousa File Doukeshi Satsujin Jiken - Nemuru Mayu - The Seven Colors: Legend of PSY - S City - Flower, Sun, and Rain - Racing Lagoon - ...iru! - Blood+ One Night Kiss - Dark Tales from the Lost Soul - Puppet Motel - Baroque - Gregory Horror Show - Endonesia - One Shot - R?MJ: The Mystery Hospital - Cautious V - Ankh: Tutankhamen no Nazo - Super Galdelic Hour - Ugetsu Kitan - Gaball Screen - Moonlight Syndrome - Lunacy - HITME - Re:Kinder - Milk Outside a Bag of Milk - Oneiric Gardens - Serial Experiments Lain PSX - Chulip - Boku no Natsuyasumi - Inagawa Junji Kyoufu no Yashiki - Cat the Ripper - Roly-Polys no Nanakorobi Yaoki - Alice Interactive Museum - U.F.O A Day in the Life - Gadget Past as Future - Suzuki Bakuhatsu - GERMS Nerawareta Machi - Chainsaw Bunny (Short Animation) - Banjo Gyro (Short Animation) - Zeddas: Horror Tour 2 - Chainsaw Maid (Short Animation) - Cool Cool Toon - Doshin 64DD

[@giha.3347]

@@maraganger Thank you so very much!

[@elementallobsterx]

More FSR shit YES!!

[@TallTapper]

i like cars they're cute

[@violetnop4345]

Each comment is the same but different. Each comment is the same but different. Each comment is the same but different. Each comment is the same but different, ya feel me ?

[@realkingofantarctica]

I'd like to learn from you.

[@Leo-mu8kn]

maraganger? more like marabanger amirite

[@maraganger]

ayyyy thank you ; w ;

[@Ninormaal]

mara

[@blueroman460]

Great video and thumbnail Mara!

[@maraganger]

Thank you ! :>