Destiny Clashes w/ Panelists, Triggers Conservative Audience

Destiny debates panelist at the Minds: Festival of Ideas event...
Date: 25 Jun, 2022
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[@destiny]

Tim Pool And Destiny Discuss Roe V Wade ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZPdoXVjp5hlbJI

[@RurouniTenShins]

Damn. That ending piece on the Azov was fiery…. Not sure I totally agree but It’s great to have a voice like stephens in debates like this

[@BennyOcean]

Destiny have you considered why so many people have rejected the establishment narratives? We have noticed that the establishment has been wrong and/or lying over and over again. It would be foolish for us to ignore this fact. Libby Emmons made the point very well, as did Maajid Nawaz. Both of them gave lists of areas in which the public has been systematically misled in recent years. We have come to expect deception to be the norm because that is what we have been conditioned to expect.

[@MiqelDotCom]

Sounds good, except for the Tim Pool part.

[@really7046]

@@neglectfulsausage7689 you are so smart man

[@fruehlingsobst8123]

Talking about self-reporting: a crowd that cheers on every statement against "censorship" trying to silence every other opinion every single time was pretty self-reporting aswell. This panel was a joke. As Destiny said: nobody actually listens to anything being said. Panelists were contradicting themself again and again and neither the crowd or the moderator reacts whatsoever. It was just a big circlejerk.

[@JPEGBLACK]

that isn't Steven. Steven only wears clothes he stole off of the nearest homeless man. unsubbed.

[@snowballeffect7812]

Destiny's wardrobe got destroyed in this comment.

[@PlanetJeroen]

...the guy just became homeless due to the crypto crash, Steven was lucky :p

[@Diogenesthelazydog]

The thumbnail had me thinking this was a deepfake video…… a dapper destiny is mind blowing

[@snowballeffect7812]

@@PlanetJeroen shoulda not invested what he couldn't afford to lose. Also time in the market beats timing the market.

[@MItchellLification]

I see no Hoodie therefore imposter.

[@supearmy]

>hold free speech event >mald hard and don't let the one guy who disagrees respond to everyone in a 5 v1 debate cause he interrupts your circlejerk

[@tbone6182]

Free speech for me not for thee lol

[@117Ender]

@@tbone6182 lol how is malding against what someone said being against free speech? did the other panelists kick him off the panel? are they cancelling him? or do they disagree and not like what he says, but let him speak right?

[@AppleBaron]

@@117Ender Audience were booing him and didn't let him speak multiple times.

[@tbone6182]

@@117Ender You have a point. But it’s kinda hard to hear someone when they’re being talked over

[@conradkorbol]

@@tbone6182 that’s basically everyone on earth. That’s the whole reason why it’s in our constitution. It’s because people only want freedom for people like them.

[@nostep3966]

Got to give Stephen credit for having the balls here to go against literally everyone in sight. The panelists, the moderator, and the audience.

[@LeMerch]

He tends to make more sense than most of them too.

[@jacobvest3750]

The balls? This man literally thrives off of being contrary.

[@rossmanngroup]

I was proud to be one of the people yelling voice of reason in the audience.

[@LakanBanwa]

Holy shit you were in the crowd? I don't know if you're familiar with the cover art of Doom with the space marine being surrounded while his buddy is in the back coming to his aid, but you're literally him. Louis you need your own anime at this point.

[@CockatooDude]

Louis Rossmann the true MVP in the Destiny fanbase.

[@rossmanngroup]

@@LakanBanwa one of the primary investors in MINDS which is the platform funding/running this event gave my non profit a 7 figure grant so I figured the polite thing to do would be to go to the event. Seeing destiny's blank stare having to listen to the person to his left talk was entertainment

[@oldscotty9507]

Was definitely thinking is Destiny going to get a beat down after this panel.

[@TheJuggernaut88]

Love you Louis! DGGers gotta stick together!

[@butterboydeluxe4057]

Steven in a collared shirt? My man is unhinged.

[@shizzlepecks]

He has completely lost it

[@k.i.a6433]

Damn he looks GOOD in this video.

[@harmzyz0682]

He’s not destiny in this video. He’s Steven Bonnell II

[@AndreBradshaw]

Yeah. Sweats4life. Wtf is this beta collared shirt and clean pants bullshit?

[@zm5668]

Looking fat too

[@D-AVGGamer]

This panel is the perfect example of what it looks like when someone is confident bc they're knowledgeable about what they're talking about vs when people are confident bc they know that 90% of the room will agree with whatever they say no matter how dumb it is.

[@bedwinkawliga9897]

Typical liberal with the classic “brain dead conservatives” line. how many manufacturing jobs are moving to blue states? We know this person daily driver 28 doesn’t own a business haha

[@AlexisTheDragon]

Trump is as confident, doesn't mean he's right. A lot of these people made very good points, and destiny, you could see right from the start on his face, he wasn't listening to any of it.

[@jeffwells641]

@@AlexisTheDragon Did you even read the comment you replied to? Trump isn't confident because he's knowledgeable about what he's talking about. He's confident because he knows the people he's talking to will agree with whatever he says no matter how dumb it is.

[@AlexisTheDragon]

@@jeffwells641 Yeah I agree. Where did I say otherwise? My point was destiny is confident here, doesn't mean hes actually correct he just believes he is, just like trump is confident, doesn't mean he is right either. I was comparing destiny to trump in this respect, not that hes really anything like trump in general, but I was making a comparison that'd be easy to swallow for the bias people here who are very left. My main point was confidence doesn't mean correctness, everyone on this panel is confident, doesn't mean any of them are correct, confidence is just how you feel about yourself.

[@titanmongoloid8164]

@@AlexisTheDragon Yes, but the comment made the distinction that confidence in stating what you believe with support of the room and confidence in doing so without the support of the room is not the same kind of confidence. I think you missed the whole point.

[@damnitjim1767]

Conservatives using a platform to complain about not having a platform is always gonna make me smile.

[@astrospect]

Of course this is while you ignore the fact that people get rejected from speaking at events all the time because their not controlled by the liberal hivemind.

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

honestly none of these people know what it's really like to get your opinions silenced. have them all go to russia and try to write an anti-putin article and see how that goes. better yet, go to china and try to run an opposition newspaper. no perspective at all.

[@youtubecensoringcomments7427]

They have less platform than democrats.. . Dude think a bit it has been like that for more than a decade now

[@youtubecensoringcomments7427]

You have responses comments counter, it indicates you have 4 responses and we can't see the responses... Lol

[@jgoodwin2777]

And liberals conflating two separate ideas never fails to make me smile 😊. "Hey see you said your thing and didn't get banned from KZbin, therefore all the people banned with similar viewpoints don't exist and there is no problem". 😂

[@katesomnia]

Destiny's facial expressions throughout the panel SENT me. His point about anti-establishment is insightful and accurate. Unfortunately, it was lost on the panel who was too busy basking in the smell of their own farts.

[@JoltOfJoy]

Where did it send you

[@YouJGSousa]

The problem is how he presented. He present establishment as “the experts”, and the anti establishment as “Joe Rogan and the dude on Twitter”. I just cringed. He can’t expect to be taken seriously when he misrepresents one of the sides.

[@rbkskillz]

@@YouJGSousa can you present it better?

[@YouJGSousa]

@@rbkskillz if you are asking that stupid question you won’t understand my point anyway

[@rbkskillz]

@@YouJGSousa how aggressive and confrontational of you. Yes, I can see you know exactly what you are talking about.

[@Might.B.Housey_]

You can’t boo destiny, it’ll just get him hard.

[@tonjolley6422]

Have Gave me a good laugh. God speed

[@Ironkhight]

He was bricked up after all those boos

[@DocOrtmeyer]

*ERECT*

[@erikhammer153]

8inches

[@zakeryrockwell8395]

Same 13 inches hard

[@ksilva2848]

These are too short, conversations like these should have more time to develop. This should've been done online in a panel with at least 3 more people with shitty mics and unbalanced gains.

[@AndrewBaker_Photography]

gigachad

[@H0wMake4Game]

It is not like they are too short, there were way too many people for the amount of time. If it was 2 less people it would be way more enjoyable

[@DocOrtmeyer]

🤣

[@Elitematt74]

Agreed, shouldve been like 2/3hrs for this many people or 1hr for 2/3 ppl

[@xecoq]

Gain? Do you mean the truth slider?

[@ivansmirnoff6987]

What a group of brave free thinkers. Such heroes. Questioning that narrative that no one else questions. They even cite sources from big news outlets that are allowed to question the narrative for some reason. They're even so brave that they say they don't see themselves as left or right.

[@fruehlingsobst8123]

What is satire, I dont know anymore. This comment sounds like one, the entire panel debate sounded like one, yet the audience only applauded when there was no joke...

[@drudiogenes8544]

🏆🏅💰✨

[@TheWhisperingPenis]

Yeah its a bit embarrassing. My family is mostly these types of people so I get it all the time.

[@AlexisTheDragon]

So being a tribalist is the answer? Please, guess you're not allowed to be an individual anymore, u know what we all are truly born as? And you think you're the brave one?

[@ivansmirnoff6987]

@@AlexisTheDragon no in order to be the truest of individualists you must live hundreds of miles away from civilization in order to be as free minded as possible.

[@lazydog081399]

Destiny is spot on when he says people like to be lied to. I don't understand why we just won't admit that. It makes some people feel better

[@GO-GO_SO-SO]

Kind of weird that they claim it is not a left or right thing, but they only seemed to have criticisms for the left.

[@deviouskris3012]

It’s the ‘Tim Pool” schtick.

[@TheAluvisify]

False neutrality at its finest.

[@ChaseFace]

It's also funny because the panelists pretty blatantly engage in all of the mask-on stuff that Fuentes used to do and turn around and act shocked when Destiny brings up left v right. "This has nothing to do with politics," says the group entirely on the same page about hating Biden and denying vaccines.

[@jamesnite2157]

@@deviouskris3012 The Rubin Ruse

[@chethanx666]

Did the guy who said that contradict his own point, or are you lumping the panelists together?

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

Destiny was perceived as defending the establishment and the crowd decided to boo, proving his entire point immediately lol. I love it.

[@ErgonomicChair]

lol yeah it was an interesting bit that I picked up on too.

[@holymolythejabroni9040]

Typical clown car conservatives.

[@michaelh878]

"perceived". He defends Biden, Kamala, Buttigieg etc. non stop.

[@lydiawilder5996]

@@michaelh878 Sometimes the establishment isn't wholly bad and we are doing demonstrable harm to our institutions by being uncritically anti establishment

[@benjammin775]

Yep tried to drown out his statements with boos right after cheering for free speech.

[@user-cd3cv7zm2e]

Destiny should open a monastery with that kind of patience. Imagine sitting in front of like a thousand people who disagree with you and lay out your view like that. Amazing.

[@IndependantMind168]

I was impressed too.

[@ToiletDeflecter]

Am I missing something or is Destiny literally the only person who was able to answer the question at hand

[@howdyman5961]

Destiny dressed properly is really throwing me off, its almost as shocking as a league player touching grass.

[@nocuh]

Don’t be fooled by the pajama jeans

[@RedStoner1000]

These are the same picture

[@BlooCollaGal]

@@nocuh It was the button down shirt that threw me off

[@scottyxscxrs5483]

He’s fully achieved his based form irl

[@mongoose890]

thats what you call properly dressed?

[@fischerosborn6470]

I was there and i can confirm the same people clapping for ‘stopping censorship’ are the same ones yelling and telling him to get off the stage

[@Cycstorm]

I was there, too. It was clearly a right leaning crowd. And the people on this panel were just obsessed with trans people. Hardly a minute went by without someone taking a shot under the guise of 'satire'. It was cringe.

[@Puzzlesocks]

It's a tough thing. I think very few people are free speech absolutists. The question on where free speech should have limitations to avoid harm is one that is constantly going on. I think there is a significant vocal base in the US that literally wants to send us back to a monarchy headed by someone who aligns with their political ideals and tries to defend the idea as democracy. They don't understand how a democratic republic actually works and spend all their time worried about the fed and try to treat the US as if it's a single country the same way France or Italy are. My old workplace literally had propaganda in the break room talking about how we needed to dissolve the constitution, but somehow still do all these insanely costly social justice programs through a government that would no longer exist. I don't think a single person there had ever read the constitution even once.

[@user-tz4jd9ul1y]

Ehhhh kind of agree with some of your stuff but we can amend some of the constitution and keep our government lol You can have things you would add and change to the constitution and still be generally in favor of a establish government Lol is not a sacred document just an important one

[@Puzzlesocks]

@@user-tz4jd9ul1y I can only speak for my experience. When I asked anyone who wanted to change the constitution what they wanted to change, they usually had no answers. It just amounted to "constitution bad". I'm open to hearing ideas about how to change it, that's why we have an amendment process to begin with. The issue is the changes people want to make to it are either "destroy the whole thing... for reasons" or are completely unpopular and/or unfeasible ideas like making undefined "hate speech" no longer protected by the first.

[@pizzatime8917]

@@Cycstorm well I think that for the "strongest woman" it's actually satire and his brand is relevant to the trans satire. The other panelists we're tripping tho

[@MPM_News]

Destiny is just on another intellectual level. What distinguishes him is his sincerity

[@matthewlee4834]

Words can't describe how grateful I am for Destiny's voice of reason in this panel. He conveyed his logic in such a elegant manner that he managed to not look insane while in the lion's den, and I feel that the vast majority of us would not be capable of accomplishing either of these feats

[@gxlorp]

The audience was the lions den. If you had expressed disagreement with the panelists you would have been in no danger.

[@BrokeIn97]

Destiny has balls of steel to go on a panel were 90% of the audience is booing him truly a godstiny moment.

[@bentrinker1937]

You’d never see cowards like Hasan or vaush do stuff like this.

[@nixonagnewreviews7206]

Yes. Al though I completely disagree with everything he says, respect for him to go up there and speak his mind in front of an audience who are mostly against his position. He needs to speak a bit more calmly though. Hard to understand him sometimes at that speed.

[@JavierPwns]

Destiny is also ballsy for still lying about ivermectin lmfao

[@RedheadReff]

@@nixonagnewreviews7206 Its the starcraft 2 brain. He's gotta keep his apm up

[@amp4105]

@@nixonagnewreviews7206 he is calm, he talks fast. implying hes not calm makes it out that hes angry.

[@PuddingRat]

Steven will always be an absolute GIGACHAD for being willing to speak in front of an absolutely hostile audience. It's unfortunate that he spoke for like one minute max.

[@RedVSBlueIsCewl]

Hell yeah. He‘s like an MMA Fighter that enjoys fighting his opponents on home soil. His Mojo is insane

[@MinouLeTigreBlanc]

Yeah it also sucks that this panel was mostly 4 ppl circle jerking about an issue without saying anything really new, just repeating the same conservative narrative we've been hearing for years. It was all just virtue signaling at this point, the audience didnt learn anything new they were here to prove themselves right

[@willardaustria]

"Hostile", LOL. If that's hostile to you you should run to your safe space and hug a teddy bear.

[@jemmani22]

He loves it, he feeds on it. He's always against 4 idiots too. However these 4 weren't going at him like most do, they were a little more tame. The one guy was absolutely insane though

[@AndrewClement]

​@@willardaustria I mean. He did get booed the entire time he spoke.

[@TraversyMedia]

Great stuff man. I feel like the entire world has gone nuts. Right, left, up and down all in their own ways and you continue to be the voice of reason.

[@beyondlimits8159]

LOVE UR CONTENT MAN

[@vpawid]

Ditto ^

[@SublimeCS]

Holy shit! I've learned so much from your videos. So cool to have you here in destiny's community.

[@kv1293]

That's what all the other groups think too.

[@mrmr2488]

This was not a good showing for Destiny and I’ll tell you exactly why. The opening clip of the video shows the crowd booing him. It’s not because he’s speaking truth or anything like that, it’s because he said ,”People like Joe Rogan taking horse paste.” Destiny himself made a video dumping on Vaush because Vaush agreed with calling it horse dewormer/paste, yet Destiny didn’t hesitate to tell that SILLY and easily disprovable lie and smear. In that moment, he was guilty of the very thing the panel was about and he lost all credibility. And the worse part is, is he chose a particular example that is the most known form of disinformation. If you asked anyone to point out disinformation, almost everyone would point to the joe Rogan horse paste debacle.

[@matthewsocoollike]

“We’re not even allowed talk about trans people or the establishment in society, we’re being silenced” she says on stage infront of tons of people and on multiple KZbin videos and social media sites visible to billions.

[@squareinsquare2078]

While the crowd shouts down the left leaning voice on the panel. Couldn't make this stuff up.

[@palasonix9246]

Although I agree with your point, I do think there's a difference between political pundits and those who have access to these channels to speak as panelists as part of their job/career, and say some lady who does HR work for a corporation tweeting something mildly anti-vax and getting fired. I think when she said that, the people who support her statement hear it in a way that relates to their own situation, not some public figures ability to find platforms to talk about their ideas/opinions.

[@liquidtrails6132]

To actually think that someone bringing up a subject that will get you silenced is the same as talking or debating that subject is ignorance at its finest.

[@happilyevernever4289]

​@@squareinsquare2078 Atleast u can hear Destiny here. Watch the lady go to a university and even try to hear her arguments over the screaming banshees there.

[@richardtorres5518]

I know you don’t give a single fuck bro but I’m proud of you Steven. Takes a special individual to speak the truth in a room full of people who despise your point of view. Love you broski.

[@im1085]

plenty of people applauding him too lol.

[@klinkclang]

He's extremely comfortable with the arguments he's making and the arguments they are making. That allows him to be really quick witted. He's good at actually following the argument people are making and immediately pulling out his response from his years of experience with these conversations.

[@richardtorres5518]

@@im1085 oh definitely. You can’t deny Destiny’s logic is sound and I think he’s insightful enough to properly ground his point and work backwards from it in a systematic way.

[@richardtorres5518]

@@bass7100 ok dude.

[@ChaseFace]

well said

[@nothingbutlove4886]

certified "Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer" moment

[@mrmr2488]

I know everyone here just keeps ignoring and missing why they boo’d but Destiny literally said ,”People like Joe Rogan that take horse paste” AFTER he made a video months ago, crapping on Vaush for referring for ivermectin as horse paste. Destiny is on a panel about disinformation, as he repeats the most popular example of disinformation. Destiny KNOWS it’s disinformation, he has stated as much himself but he said it anyway to try to win a debate. He deserved to be boo’d. He instantly lost all credibility in that moment and the crowd knew it.

[@veritasabsoluta4285]

.

[@user-vb4gm1nw2f]

@@mrmr2488 fact checking a joke

[@mrmr2488]

@@fifab82 Joe never said it was just ivermectin. That’s just what the media ran with it and made it seem like that’s what he was saying. Nor was Joe telling people to take horse paste. As a matter of fact, people were taking the animal version before Joe said anything. Ivermectin and HQC were making their rounds on the internet before the Joe Rogan stuff. The phrasing makes more sense when you put it the way you do but as you said, I nor anyone else will read it that way. I’m still not sure that’s exactly what he meant. I think he was nervous and said something dumb as a reaction to the crowd, who reacted even worst after he said it.

[@mrmr2488]

​@@fifab82 Look, what you are pointing out here isn't anything that can be fixed. We are humans. Humans say and do stupid things. Some humans have big platforms. But as a human, you must decide what is best for yourself. Some people aren't capable of this and will just listen to people like Joe, CNN, Fox, Destiny, etc.. But that doesn't mean people like Joe or Destiny are responsible for how people interpret their words and what they should do with them. While there are people that went and got horse paste, there is a HUGE MAJORITY more that did not do this. What you are talking about is just a condemnation of what it is to be human. Our ancestors (creators of society and civilization) figured out a long time ago, that you don't hold others responsible for your actions. I don't think Joe gave this wonderful recommendation of ivermectin. He has hours of content to go through and you can watch his original video where he talked about throwing the kitchen sink at it and at no point in that short video, did he say ivermectin cured him. Once again, before Joe even mentioned ivermectin, it was hugely popular on the internet. The media tried to attribute this to Joe Rogan and it worked. But, let's assume Joe did give this wonderful endorsement of ivermectin, he still isn't responsible for what others do. Even if he says ,"Yea, ivermectin is great, it helped me", doesn't mean he is responsible for others going out and getting it. Before I'm being accused of being naïve, I understand that you can build a strong case as to why he can and should be held responsible for it but this should simply be ignored. Free speech is a double edged sword. It leads to things like this BUT idiots going out and buying horse paste is a cost we should all be willing to pay. Because the moment we start holding everyone responsible for every word they say and the actions people take because of them, is when we can no longer say anything. This is why this recent arc of Destiny's about holding people responsible about how there words COULD be interpreted, is so stupid and childish. It's a fundamental misunderstanding of humans and our societies we've built.

[@RedBarkedTree]

Maajid Nawaz used to be a clear thinking liberal. This dude has gone completely nuts

[@sevenakuma6490]

I like how quick they hopped off the Ukraine topic when they saw Steven was able to absolutley body everyone on it

[@anonymousjohnson8051]

My favorite moments from these debates is when the crowd starts booing him and he just leans into it smiling

[@JPEGBLACK]

I wish I had the ability to thrive off of negativity like he does

[@TheButterAnvil]

@@JPEGBLACK it's like you can see a mana bar filling while it happens

[@SnakeTheHat]

@@JPEGBLACK The secret to it is condescension. The people booing him are the exact types he was talking about.

[@mayainverse9429]

meanwhile when the tables are turned there isn't booing but actual attempts to legitimately destroy peoples lives or outright censor the ability to speak at all. he is fucking lucky the right is tame as fuck and don't go after people the way the left does.

[@ryohio4706]

He's admitted and talked about his love of live debate/arguments 100 times. He loves this shit, boos and all, lmao

[@melibaws8395]

"Destiny it's a 4 vs 1 and the moderator is biased, are you insane?" "Heh, *tips fedora* then it will be a fair fight."

[@njm2699]

“Destiny, they outnumber us 4 to 1!” “Then it is an even fight. All arguments, fire at will. Burn their brain dead lives.”

[@dpatsios92]

@@njm2699 halo gamer moment

[@DocOrtmeyer]

🤣🙏

[@deviouskris3012]

“I have you outnumbered 1 v 4” -Destiny ( probably ).

[@MiBasse]

It's not really an advantage to have numbers on your side in these kind of things, at least of your arguments are sound, because there's a good chance someone on your side says something stupid that validates the points of the "opposition". I mean, that's why Destiny asks to be put on this kind of panel in the first place.

[@kirbae4335]

I’ve been following Destiny for like 2 years now, and this is one of the few times where I was actively rooting for Destiny during the entire video on this panel. It’s so important to have someone like Destiny clash with these panelists and poke holes in their logic and words. We need more people to be a breath of fresh air in these stinky cesspools of echo chambers that some people have burrowed themselves in. Good shit Steven, love seeing stuff like this

[@FelixCulpa333]

I've seen this so many times from left leaning people and think Destiny is projecting his discernment process onto others unaware that there is such thing as intuition. People like him who refuse to even consider certain possibilities because of the stigma involved are not logical if they are ignoring not only where the evidence is taking them but the fact elites are literally telling us what they are doing. He’s guided by emotion which makes truth relative and conditional, this creates a bias which makes people see what they want. You can tell by the way he speaks he is driven a little more by ego and the way his monologue makes him feel about himself, if this wasn't true he wouldn't be getting irritated at being challenged revealing he has more emotion involved in discernment than he should.

[@LizStaples]

I think it’s important to have people who can push back, but we also need to be careful when we send our people to enemy territory that they don’t get swayed to the enemy side

[@FelixCulpa333]

@@LizStaples Enemy? Why do use that word?

[@MasterGhostf]

@@FelixCulpa333 Enemy for me is anyone who doesn't use logic and reason to explain their positioning. IT can be "their" logic. The panelist to me are an enemy. They are an enemy to democracy and freedom. They spout bullshit with no backing. They're used to talking within their bubble they don't understand the people they are criticizing. At the end of the day might makes right. If good people don't use might to make the world good and just evil people will abuse. We can't tolerate the intolerant. We have to be open to discussion about certain topics like should trans people compete in women sports. We can't throw around phobia on everyone, but we also can't tolerate right wing militias and terrorist groups. If we want freedom and democracy, we have to remove threats that harm it. I see these panelists as those people. They spout bullshit that have been spread by conspiracy theorists, some have been true but they don't understand how facts and how to look at sources.

[@seahorsingaround]

@@LizStaples If you have any strength in your convictions, you won’t be swayed just by having an opposing opinions presented to you. Changing positions with new info isn’t a bad thing.

[@RR-qf9re]

The free speech crowd drowning out the ONLY voice of dissent 👏👏👏

[@withwithout8287]

Conservatives love free speech but only when it applies to them

[@YoJayJay88]

How on earth did Destiny not get on a panel with Tulsi I thought this was the whole reason he was going. This was precious manifesto time, Steven

[@pigofchrist5738]

I think she was on a different panel. If you check his stream vods playlist, he talks to her before the event begins

[@travelerfinder7840]

he did, it's the next video

[@lewistillett206]

Seriously?? Based

[@alexd4566]

@@travelerfinder7840 Really? Holy shit I can’t wait for that

[@friendlypup5650]

A tulsi Tim panel too 😩

[@JC06NJ]

The amount of confidence you need to be able to do this is immeasurable

[@krunkle5136]

*knowledge.

[@krunkle5136]

@@Skippymabob it takes knowledge to be confident and drive a stake into a conversation.

[@nickt2822]

that shows how little you know about the panelists. they are not vaush or shapiro that would try to shut you down if they disagree with you as they orived by alowing destiny to make his points. although, destiny's comment section is cancer so.. you actually prove the cancer is real with you crap and the circle jirk comments in this thread. oh and btw, self confidence does not require knowledge, not at all. that doesnt mean that destiny is not knowledgable, depending on the topic.

[@D-AVGGamer]

When you're more knowledgeable than everyone in the room, it's easy.

[@soilwork98]

Thank you for being the middle ground, I felt similar to what you said about people looking for proof to only defend their own reality it’s why I like to look at both sides of any argument before coming to a stance

[@wojciechwilkanowski4472]

guy speaking at 3:48 goes on a schizo rant and gets a round of applause. really proud of this panel discussing 'satire vs disinformation'

[@FareSkwareGamesFSG]

Destiny needs to do these way more often. His establishment/anti-establishment distinctions hits the nail right on the head, and if this panel showed us anything, it's that too many people are uncritically anti-establishment and to a degree that's literally damaging to *all* our institutions. If this kind of thinking continues to simmer, one day it will certainly boil over.

[@youtubeiscruel3946]

But destiny says we should blindly trust all institutions, even the fraudulent ones like the DOJ. If we start lying to ourselves about what institutions actually are, then there is no moving forward. Its like saying we should trust religion because if we lose trust in that institution society will just collapse. It makes no sense.

[@adameury60]

Couldn't agree more.

[@enginerdy]

one day? That’s some deadpan-ass humor right there

[@Charles-pf7zy]

Engaging with the right doesn’t work. It only adds fuel to the fire as they find more ways to justify their insane logic. All this time is better used educating the young, keeping propaganda against the right afloat, thinking of ways to outmaneuver congressional GOP politically, and just ignoring their complaints and using covert tactics to deplatform them.

[@TonyCox1351]

Poor Destiny out here trying to have an intelligent discussion while every other panelist response to the prompt is simply “yes it is hard to tell satire from reality because REMEMBER THIS TIME A DEMOCRAT DID SOMETHING STUPID”

[@MrPbaydari]

This is what Destiny needs to be doing, what a fucking beast!

[@wauzers]

I totally agree. Destiny I think you found your nitch! Go with it!!!!!!!!

[@PipeBombSD]

@@wauzers only downside is that I have to 1.5x to 2x through the other guests lol

[@riddler576]

He’s starting to get built like crowder.

[@Jay-eb7ik]

Truly in his element here. Destiny has helped me lean center more than any other people at the moment.

[@cunningham.s_law]

@@wauzers niche

[@asdfbeau]

Seems like Destiny's almost there- he's flirting with the notion that we're actually all irrational, hormonal apes (i.e. not really truth-seekers), but he still thinks he can address the issue with rationality...this is how poets and philosophers go insane. It has to be frustrating to spend so much of your life doing research, only to find out that research wasn't the name of the game; it was hypocrisy and egoism the whole time.

[@Hayden_Cat]

Your comment just made me lose hope

[@maliciousintent5159]

Right in the feels man -.-

[@JavierPwns]

Destiny doesn’t do research, or else he wouldn’t be pushing the MSM horse paste lie.

[@maliciousintent5159]

@@JavierPwns You clearly have no idea who the fuck youre talking about

[@DZ-fk7ji]

No, the majority of people ARE truth seekers.... Just because the truth is against what you think doesn't mean everyone else is against truth seeking...maybe, just maybe, you are wrong.

[@robokaos69]

It's crazy that he got so little time to speak here. I get wanting to give everybody roughly equal time but whenever you're on what is basically a 1v4 panel it's kinda ridiculous that he got what he did.

[@konoko1002k]

Well, he passed all the evil things the lefties do as "people make mistakes", and followed it by calling a known medication as a "horse paste", so even though he was the only oposition, he still failed to provide any value.

[@stephenwithaph1566]

Its not crazy. So long as you slipped some garbage in your comments and responses they wanted to hear more. Its largely why we never got pushback on the transphobia.

[@KingOfMalevolence]

Conservatives: "omg SJWs get so triggered by Ben Shapiro" Also conservatives:

[@therealzizmon1748]

My man this is the last place I thought I would see you

[@cryptocaesar8972]

Dog, Shapiro had to cancel the events he was going to over credible threats of violence that places said they didn’t have the security for, he caused riots simply trying to speak at some places. No one gives a fuck about Shapiro catching some boos some where.

[@jbjoker18]

come on now , ben couldn't even get into a venue , so much different from just some boos

[@someguyontheinternet2729]

The difference is conservatives won't actually protest and cancel Destiny because of his political views.

[@RanEncounter]

@@someguyontheinternet2729 You really have no clue what they have done to Destiny in the past, do you?

[@NoobaLV]

pls don't stop with politics dud. you're making this entertaining

[@iurivanastacio3081]

why he is stoping it?

[@XzzzXXzzzX]

you could tell he was enjoying the boos

[@MrHollibaugh]

He’s worried that he will eventually just get banned on KZbin which is just counting days. Rather wait till he can debate more conservatives so he doesn’t get banned.

[@snod1291]

there's almost no line between politics and entertainment for plenty of people today. The first panelist literally paused for an applause break one sentence intro his introduction lmao

[@onigengu7846]

@@snod1291 bro he wrote that line 4 months ago in preparation for this exact moment! And he aced it lmao what a goddamn tool

[@goldiegaims]

I love how people are truly mad bc they can’t get away with being disrespectful and just hiding behind “it’s a joke bro” and their “satire” is literally is just disrespect and insults to a mass group of people or just one

[@sorenjensen3863]

To be fair though, being disrespectful or hateful shouldn't be banned on a government level. There are many places where "hatespeech" is a crime. That said, FB and Twitter have no obligation to platform anyone and certainly have the right to ban you if they don't want to be associated with your views, it's just stupid to do so

[@stophackingmygoogleaccount3886]

i thought I was pretty good at public speaking and that I’m not too afraid to speak in front of an audience that disagrees with me but honestly I woulda shat my pants if I was in Tiny shoes here. Good job man I love seeing the recent irl stuff.

[@clipdump]

Coming from generally conservative person here, this panel was a mess. Would love to have heard more form destiny because for the most part this was a circle jerk. The best take away from the panel was his critique of the anti establishment attitude that people have in these discussions. And so many people have unverifiable world views, which destiny has a knack for rooting out. I hope he's not too discouraged from the outcome and does this again because we need people to push this conversation out of the comfort zone

[@baronofbahlingen9662]

Omniconservatism will have its day my brother

[@deepfriedchocobo]

Conservatism is just being 30 years behind and wrong on nearly everything

[@PixelLuffy]

Lol I don't think this will put him off. He definitely gets off from the negativity.

[@mayainverse9429]

I disagree. I think that his take on "anti-establishment" was his worst take. the only reason he is pro establishment is purely out of cosmic RNG that the establishment is aligned for the most part with his vision of the world up to and including the FBI directly trying to tamper with the 2016 election and the almost successful implementation of a ministry of truth. he is a privileged boy who lives in a world where every opinion he has is fully protected since it is the same opinion held by every institution in the country. if he was on the other end of that he would be precisely as "anti-establishment" as the people he is criticizing. there is no big brain argument here. I mean just look at our own history. the free speech faction of the 60s was the liberals and that is because the culture was against them and now that the culture is fully in their hands they no longer have a functional purpose free speech is now in the way of them achieving even greater power so that is why they want to get rid of it. and before you mention it yes if the right was getting all their ways in every aspect of the culture they would probably stop caring about free speech too with a small minority who still support it kind of how you see today only a small minority of the left agree with free speech too. it is quite simple. it is called human nature.

[@reallymjc]

If there’s anything I know about Destiny is that he loves this shit. So don’t worry, he wont get put off.

[@dtubbs]

Can we all give Steven a round of applause for not completely losing his fucking mind? Jesus FUCKING Christ pepeW

[@redshift912]

He lives for that . He has mentioned it many times

[@stargazerh112]

Maajid destroyed Steven.

[@Lizard1582]

@@stargazerh112 Copium

[@CRWeaventure]

Did that one panelist really say that Trevor Noah was kissing and sucking up to Biden during the correspondence dinner? He was tearing into Bidens administration and make countless good jokes. I think she lacks a sense of humor 🤐

[@Lizard1582]

@@CRWeaventure Also as if people look up to Trevor Noah as the paragon of comedy, lol.

[@Sthunderrocker]

I think you're spot on. The media is a mirror showing who you are.

[@Morlon23]

"Your boos mean nothing. I've seen what makes you cheer!"

[@fixpontt]

Grandpa Rick

[@SpencerBelanger]

fucking hell, getting jeers and boos despite 5 people echoing the same bullshit. its almost like steven is 100% on his point all they wanna hear from is their own perspective.

[@edmaldonado8207]

The audience: These panelists are saying things I already agree with so I CLAPPED!!! The audience when Destiny challenges them: BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[@CalamityBoomPants]

“The left doesn’t want to engage or debate” Destiny 1v5 and still getting booed lmao

[@mrmr2488]

I know everyone here just keeps ignoring and missing why they boo’d but Destiny literally said ,”People like Joe Rogan that take horse paste” AFTER he made a video months ago, crapping on Vaush for referring for ivermectin as horse paste. Destiny is on a panel about disinformation, as he repeats the most popular example of disinformation. Destiny KNOWS it’s disinformation, he has stated as much himself but he said it anyway to try to win a debate. He deserved to be boo’d. He instantly lost all credibility in that moment and the crowd knew it.

[@SpencerBelanger]

@@mrmr2488 hes being cheeky because the other panelists are taking shots as well. The crowd cheers for content they agree with, but get triggered when someone makes fun of their golden idol.

[@mrmr2488]

@@SpencerBelanger Bro, he wasn’t being cheeky, he was in the middle of a rant. And regardless of whether or not Rogan is their “golden boy” doesn’t change the fact that what he said was 100% disinformation.

[@lankylad6473]

Destiny: there is no more left and right, only establishment and anti-establishment everyone else: proves his point for the next twenty minutes

[@d_clan_]

TRUE. anti establishment leftist, 2 anti establishment conservatives, and then the guy whose whole position is just general anti establishment

[@JuiceForgetting5]

This was so perfect.

[@DrBocks]

I'd say his point is shallow in concept and he needs to dig deeper. Why suddenly after 50+ years of conservatives being pro-establishment are millions of people anti-establishment? When the establishment becomes anti-right they can't stay pro-establishment, it's political suicide to do so

[@mrmr2488]

Destiny: I can’t believe how stupid Vaush is acting, referring to ivermectin as horse paste. Also Destiny: People like Joe Rogan who eat horse paste Destiny proved the point of every panelist there about disinformation. Imagine renouncing people saying he took horse dewormer and then turn around and use it in a discussion about misinformation. Not only present disinformation to the panel as fact but to use an example that is so widely known to be disinformation, is astounding. But to be fair, Destiny is right about the establishment vs anti, I just wanted to get that jab in there to attempt to disillusion his mindless fans with his endless contradictions and his willingness to embrace them to win debates.

[@DrBocks]

@@mrmr2488 that's a good catch. I knew something irked me about that part. The establishment vs anti-establishment reminds me a lot of his "what is a chair" argument, true technically but kind of a shallow point to make and a bit of digging would probably make him drop it entirely.

[@TheDavitt]

I’m a right leaning person but Destiny is the type I can enjoy listening to and can at least wrap my mind around his positions. Taking notes on ways approach political arguments.

[@wessla]

You are brilliant man, I'm learning alot of listening to you. It feels like you are so tremendously grounded and true in your thinking and reasoning. I hope you know that you are truly appreciated. 🙏👏

[@ParistonHxH]

You still watch Destiny? Just curious

[@xlxaxwx5352]

I am a conservative but it is so unproductive when the audience interferes when Destiny speaks. If you dislike what he says, that's okay, but shut up and let him speak. Because he is still going to say the things you dislike. Booing or crying only prolongs the event lol. But maybe research and look into what he talks about. Idk but maybe he's right. And at the end of the day, your ideas should be challenged and researched because if your ideas aren't tested how can you say they are correct or valid?

[@gigachad3925]

Lefty here and I completely agree. Politics should be about critical evaluation and truth finding.

[@izzylandyt]

These are “woke” conservatives 😂

[@Tavat]

@@izzylandyt More confidence than cognizance.

[@npcimknot958]

healthy discourse is important.. trust/ no side truly wants only one definite answer. might as well be north korea or canada where there is now rights only what dear leader wnats

[@mayainverse9429]

have you ever seen how leftists behave when a conservative speaks? they don't just boo the scream at the top of their lungs and chant to prevent the talk from happening at all. there was one guy who had a talk at i think it was middleberry university. not sure if that is how you spell it but that is how I hear it when i hear people talk about it. forget the speakers name but there was a violent opposition to this speaker and someone was seriously injured and hospitalized from it. this is no where close to that level of vitriol. alot of people seem to have this misperception that "civil disagreement" is based on a full room noding and clapping to everything no matter what everyone says. no civil disagreement is precisely this. it becomes uncivil when it descends into fears of losing your job or school aspirations because of privately held beliefs or state sanctioned harrasment or fines or imprisonment and the ultimate punishment death. so no. a very light booing is not remotely close to being bad. the left does significantly worse to those they disagree with. they hunt them down and try to end them. even if the thing is not said in the same room. MSNBC for example is constantly trying to push the idea that a new law needs to be put into place to permanently remove people like Ben Shapiro from having the ability to talk in public. they are not "booing" ben while in the same room they are trying to reach "across state lines" to attempt to permanently shut him down.

[@JoeJ4684]

Destiny really triggered Maajid with the Tom Clancy hit. He was coping hard and just could not get passed it.

[@gordonstrong5232]

I loved that lol

[@TonyCox1351]

Poor dude never recovered, his every subsequent comment referenced tom clancy

[@hawk622]

I think you should probably look more into Maajid’s past and you might know why that triggered him. No joke, he has a villain origin story yet came out not wanting to blow up the world, and his imprisonment reads like a Tom Clancy novel. Perhaps he took it a bit too personal when Destiny’s comment was sarcastic

[@njm2699]

@@hawk622 no fucking way lol

[@TonyCox1351]

@@hawk622 whatever his background, the dude didn’t make a single insightful point the entire debate

[@Nazareadain]

36:40 "they go for the applause of affirmation" This is where slowly panning to the audience would really sell it.

[@09BiGDylan]

Great job Destiny. You had the whole panel against you and the bulk of the audience. The world is better off that Destiny spoke here. It sucks because the platform was set up in such a way where most the panelist used the prompt about satire to make a bunch of false claims and cry about how the world government is coming for them.

[@filterflasher]

false claims hahaa , we got a sucker that wants to be a slave and hasnt watched the news for one bit you people are realy hopelless and want to be under a dictatorship

[@onetrickekkowr]

The crowd absolutely destroyed Destiny with facts and logical screams.

[@networknomad5600]

True.

[@ezo2161]

Outpaced vocally

[@Birch19547]

Any truers

[@bradm6287]

Says truth that toddlers would understand immediately. Boo, stop saying things we don't like.

[@ukulayme2]

Please don’t stop doing this. The world needs you champ

[@ownthelibs]

Destiny straw manned the whole convo, all of his examples are just wrong. Desantis wasn’t anti vaccines. Trump never called Ukrainian Nazis. He compares Russia collusion, a dem establishment conspiracy to a Alex Jones like conspiracy about Hillary.

[@ukulayme2]

@@ownthelibs lol

[@2j-light]

Every time I hear destiny talk is a blessing. It really does seem like people think their special. It’s “I’m different” or “I’m better”. It’s something I have to call myself out on all the time. It’s something both sides of the political spectrum do whether you call it “Fake News” or “Misinformation”. The thing I hate the most is when people try to distance this problem from the past. It was definitely way worse the farther back you go in history. The difference is the narrative was cleaner cause people got away with it a lot easier. Now everyone is able to call you out on your shit cause interaction is easier then ever and information spreads fast. The problem isn’t the information but the fact that people don’t know how to interact with opposing views. It’s something that’s terrifying to think about but the U.S. is definitely not ready to deal with this shit.

[@CorrectionUnknown]

their* than*

[@jmbo72]

Great job Destiny! The only introspective voice!

[@mbnall]

Crowd: boos destiny for saying they’re just anti-establishment. Also crowd: cheers panel for literally saying the problem is that comedians aren’t anti-establishment enough. Also crowd: cheers MN for saying their institutions and arts establishment are corrupt.

[@NickNoobles]

no brain

[@kevinwalter4078]

The criticism wasn't about being anti-establishment, it was about it being the one thing that vast swaths of people on all sides tend to agree on, and how it isn't something that really unifies people.

[@FelixCulpa333]

That's not why the crowd booed him. Every one on the panel was polite and respectful, things were going well, the crowd didn't boo him until he began making derogatory mocking comments reducing Maajid's lived experiences to a "Tom Clancy novel" and dismissing Rogans success with alternative medicines to "horsepaste". He's a spiteful person with no class that thinks people are beneath him for not having the same views and he projects his one dimensional thinking ("We dont look for truth, we look for things that make us feel good") onto others.

[@SlayingSin]

@@FelixCulpa333 pseudo accurate take. In this particular instance, Destiny was being malicious and not acting in good faith. But for the most part, he is reasonable enough to consider different ideas.

[@FafliXx]

@@FelixCulpa333 His "lived experience" of believing in a world conspiracy? That is not what lived experience means. Also the panel was "polite and respectful" because they were all agreeing with each other, or at least never challenging anything. The first 20 min of that panel were just "jokes" about trans people, and shitting on left leaning political parties. And the reason I put quotes around polite and respectful there was because they surely weren't polite and respectful to the people they were criticising. It's not exactly polite or respectful to insult people who aren't even there to defend themselves.

[@ChoppersRevenge]

Boy, that trans joke is really getting better each time he tells it. It's only on the 8th time where you really start to understand the humor behind it. I can see why he runs a satire website.

[@johnathanreyes118]

its funny how he mentions lefties ruined comedy when that's literally all he had to offer lmao.

[@animeking17]

No wonder nyt called them out lmao

[@user-ek2zx8tt2k]

Some of the most hilarious stuff on the planet. Literally suffocating and gasping for air please send help

[@batzo7490]

JOE MANT LIBERALS DOES IT TAKE TO SCREW IN A LOHBYBULB?? NOME THEYRE TOO BUDY THEIR GENDER 🤣

[@austingoyne3039]

Babylon Bee is a satire of how unfunny conservatives are

[@TheIrishGamer16]

Destiny feels like the only person who has sat down and thought about his opinions on this panel. Where as the rest feel like they took these positions from a mix of a desperate need to feel like a victim who is smart and needs a pay check

[@itsrena9750]

Destiny making these panelist prove his points over and over. Modern day hero

[@snortymcsnortface]

You can see Destiny taking mental notes when the others are talking, he's so focused

[@donanderson3653]

Destiny's inner monologue: "Holy shit, these people are so fucking stupid. I want to videogame myself hearing all this populist brain-rot. I wish I was playing League right now."

[@js100tr]

You spelled 'pilled' wrong.

[@Toxodos]

my mental notes were mostly "holy shit these people are dumb"

[@unrealhoang]

@@donanderson3653 nah, he was probably feeding in LoL in his head.

[@snortymcsnortface]

@@donanderson3653 yeah i think that's more accurate :'D

[@1992kleenex]

This is generally what I love about Destiny he can take on the extreme views on all sides and actually come out as a rational voice. That being said though this has to be some of the hardest content to listen to, 4 people monologing as if they disagree but really just being yaas queen to eachother. While one person tries to bring them back to reality.

[@collinredrick8037]

I think you missed the plot. It was 4 people talking about the disconnect from satire and reality using real world examples and then destiny comes in all butt hurt because covid facts hurt his feelings in the beginning of the video. he has to bring up the whole establishment vs anti establishment narrative to distract from the main topic of the conversation which failed miserably so he had to straw man to joe rogan talking about ivermectin (which he purposefully misrepresented when in fact he knew it was not horse paste) . Destiny is in 24/7 debate mode and completely missed the whole purpose of this panel. It’s okay he feels like he needs to debate someone all the time, just don’t go to a festival of ideas if you’re going to be combative for the sake of being combative.

[@andrewcox5873]

​@@collinredrick8037 I think you and the 4 others completely missed the point of the panel. Throwing out random examples of Biden doing stupid shit in order to prove that Democrats are stupid doesnt really prove anything, because there are a million examples of Trump doing stupid shit. It gets us no where. Destiny actually tries to take a novel approach "Hey maybe its not really a Democrat thing maybe its human nature and we are more interested in being entertained than we are in telling the truth" nope nobody wants to engage in that topic, instead lets relitigate the COVID vaccine for the trillionth time

[@navypukevomit]

@@collinredrick8037 It was 4 people circle jerking how bad the "establishment" is. Cope harder.

[@dwyoung55]

@@collinredrick8037 His point about satire vs reality was the fundamental disconnect from reality that exists on both sides. The pro vs anti establishment argument was that the latter often postures as noble seekers of truth while embracing equally absurd feels-based arguments at times. And he supported that point with real world examples. Challenging other people's ideas is central to both truth seeking and satire.

[@sweatybabypowderhands843]

@@collinredrick8037 the conversation was about the line between satire and *disinformation* . The reason why anti-establishment vs pro-establishment is an important factor in this conversation is because that is where the biggest divide comes from and what camps you fall into decides what is disinformation to you. The conversation made it seem like it was a left vs right thing when in reality left and right have more in common with each other than they care to admit. Anti-establishment vs pro-establishment on the other hand is where the real divide occurs and is what we should be really discussing. I could see how this might seem like he is derailing the conversation tho since no one else was making that distinction.

[@johnfitzpatrick5039]

My goodness, these people are insufferable. Good on ya Destiny, well done.

[@youtubecensoringcomments7427]

Destiny the guy who got wrong the Johnny Depp's trial. He is not bias... Lol

[@TheSurgePhoenix]

Very much enjoy when Steven does these panels vs the world

[@Ksean29]

This is what Hannah Arendt referred to when she wrote about the active political life. Destiny, do not despair, your engagement in politics is bringing balance and moral authenticity. Please continue in good faith.

[@gxlorp]

She warned about the technocracy that would take over the world. The one Majjid Nawaz warns about. Hannah also inspired Mattias Desmets book _The Psychology of Totalitarianism_ which is about "mass formation". A term which broke Google as they quickly worked to censor it, it would just produce a blank page saying "the results are changing quickly". The term went popular on the most popular episode of Joe Rogan. DR. Robert Malone said it. Cheif architect of mRNA tech at thr Saulk institute.

[@mjr_schneider]

Wow you really have to give it up for everyone who was brave and skeptical enough to stand up to the power of the establishment by booing the one guy on stage who remotely disagreed with them.

[@vietimports]

they are too stupid to be self aware

[@maliciousintent5159]

Yeah that and not letting him address like 95% of the wrong shit they each brought up. And moving away from the topic when he does say something. Gotta give the cia guy some props at least for trying to calm the crowd and wanting Destiny to speak when they all start booing him.

[@gondola1440]

Destiny is the establishment? Are you stupid? Your comment made no sense

[@gxlorp]

If he went about it in a more mature and respectful way he would have got a lot less booing. I'm saying this as someone who likes everyone on that panel including Stephen.

[@Marioinformer4]

@@gxlorp The problem is that some of these people here go into bad faith arguments, by assuming the government is lying to you, everyone is keeping secrets from you, everyone wants you for your money, everyone is misguiding you, everyone is against you. To constantly make bad faith arguments means to invalidate every potential thought against what you believe in. I dont think what he believes in would be in anyway helpful to the types of people that constantly break down the values of any established knowledge.

[@ZeroDrizzy]

This is the first time I've heard someone online explain things for the way they are without political bias

[@drewmena8194]

A don’t agree with you on certain topics but I appreciate you uploading this for people to see. I enjoyed hearing from everyone.

[@ataraxia7439]

+

[@RandomPerson-dl8qs]

Brilliant faceswap onto some person wearing a dress shirt, almost had me convinced Steven got drip

[@123612100]

Please tell me you're saying drip ironically.

[@dawnwatching6382]

Yeah obviously Steven is the one wearing the "Critical BASED theory" shirt

[@frozenfresh6406]

@@dawnwatching6382 That shirt was fire tho

[@Horrorfreak106]

I love how the word "vaccinated" is a trigger word for the one dude so he has to say "jabbed" instead lmao

[@johnathanreyes118]

gotta fearmonger somehow

[@csmith8621]

I think the Brits call vaccine shots, "jabs". I see it on BBC all the time. But I agree, that panel and audience were cringe.

[@Onthebrink5]

@@csmith8621 He started to say vaccine and stopped himself and said jabbed instead. That kind of shows that he is using it rhetorically.

[@SubtleHawk]

@@Onthebrink5 I don't understand how people like that simultaneously say "we believe in biology" and then say "I'm antivax". Those two positions are 100% incompatible.

[@boopsnoot3145]

Took me a minute to realize he didn’t just have 0 respect for the Japanese lol

[@theophany4935]

Just one braincell shared among all of the people in the audience lol

[@avenginglettuce]

Well, that's me subbed. Bravo sir, bravo.

[@billypurdy8581]

No matter how many disagreements I have w destiny in his conclusions politically, im always thoroughly impressed with how he carries himself in a discussion and can't help but be continually intrigued by his rational on any given subject our interests happen to coincide on. I genuinely admire Steven and would love to have an irl chat debate w him given the chance.

[@Might.B.Housey_]

I like him because I know when he disagrees with me or other people it’s coming from a place of research and not team sports.

[@scottyxscxrs5483]

Based

[@wwlittlejOfficial]

When I disagree with destiny... it's debatable.

[@onionfarmer3044]

What disagreements do you have with him?

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

@@Might.B.Housey_ I think it's half research half spite, the dude while crazy smart is crazy spiteful and love burning bridges.

[@theflashofvictoria3425]

Whenever I think lefties are cringe I just have to listen to conservatives to remember how much worse they are 🤣

[@wa-bu3ke]

Well they were right on the Covid stuff

[@theflashofvictoria3425]

@@wa-bu3ke maybe I didn’t get to the part you are talking about but the stuff they talked about at the start is one of the stupidest things I’ve heard.

[@AppleBaron]

@@wa-bu3ke Who they?

[@wa-bu3ke]

@@theflashofvictoria3425 Not really an argument. And I doubt that

[@wa-bu3ke]

@Tamas Varga Wrong.

[@tomiekk6255]

The best moment was where people booed "I believe that people are more looking for what makes them feel good then for the truth". The funny thing being, there is actually some data on this statement being true, which makes the not-realizing booers confirm it even more (which they clearly didn't realize) Too bad Destiny didn't bring this up would be so nice

[@neversurge1962]

I love watching Steven just look dead inside the entire time 😭

[@Alpine_Nightly]

It's like they have a formula for these panels: you got a moderator who, ostensibly, is supposed to be neutral but seems to keep inserting their own hare brained opinions into the discussion; then the "erudite funny man" who is neither erudite or funny; the glib white lady giving strong wine mom vibes who typically keeps making jabs at trans people; the supposedly serious-minded truth seeker who claims to be non-ideological; the anti-woke lefty who scoffs at anything to do with the Democratic party; and, finally, the Omni Lib himself, Destiny.

[@flywillis5684]

@@peaceandlove18 because he was talking about stock characters. The race matters in the glib white lady stock character, but not the moderator character. Gtfo.

[@TheAluvisify]

@@peaceandlove18 What a fucking yikes comment. Stay off the Internet.

[@Alpine_Nightly]

@@peaceandlove18Dang, man. I guess you're right. Just the mere mention of a person's race is totally racist. My bad. You have made me see three light and I will praise you until the day I die for the light of justice you shined upon my big ol' dumb racist worldview.

[@flywillis5684]

@@peaceandlove18 cute

[@Tdiesel2679]

Such a great panel. We get to hear 20 minutes of the 4 people on the panel that all agree with each other and then Destiny gets 3 minutes to try and hit as many key points as possible and then Majid (who i use to have a little respect for) wants to make a little jab at the guy that "talks fast."

[@caitlinalb]

I swear Majid used to be more reasonable?! Did I remember this incorrectly? Didn’t he used to stand for de-radicalisation? What’s happened? He has just been infected with radicalisation of another kind.

[@stenergut9661]

@@caitlinalb the grift kicked in.

[@caitlinalb]

@@stenergut9661 sad, simple but likely correct answer.

[@note4note804]

Well to be fair, Majid seemed really concerned about getting every "jab" he could.

[@Jimunu]

Funny how he talked about a nefarious agenda use basic propaganda/radicalizing technique like repeating jab in absurdum.

[@allblues2865]

Literally every single point the panelists tried to argue was anti-establishment. Jesus Christ, every single time they spoke it was an emotional anti-establishment run, literally every single time in the whole thing. And when destiny points out the divide between anti/pro establishment he gets boo'd. What on earth is this place?

[@GingerDrums]

Grand moral narratives vs. adressing specific probelms in context.

[@michaelcapper9019]

This panel showed me that people showed me what’s wrong with politics today, people don’t want to discuss anything. They all want to circle jerk and agree with each other without being critical of their ideas, with any criticism destiny in this case being booed to near silence. This is a problem with both sides of the political parties and no solutions will be found with everyone staying in their bubbles.

[@werewolfasp2259]

Trueeeeeeee. The only person worth listening to was Maajd and I wanted Destiny and him to both fight it out.

[@werewolfasp2259]

I don't know what the ladies added to the convo at all..

[@mayainverse9429]

difference is the right will boo. while the left will dox you into never having a job again or apply pressure to friends and family to force your hand and get you to shut up. or just outright implement a legal "disinformation board" to shut people up. or get social platforms to permanently ban people who disagree giving no voice. im tired of hearing people like you saying booing is an attempt to silence witch isn't remotely true. also Destiny streams to like 5k people every day 15 hours a day. pretty sure he is doing just peachy on being platformed.

[@takeshikovach5165]

I would say it's more of a problem on right leaning now.

[@michaelcapper9019]

@@takeshikovach5165 I would have to disagree the left in particular far left now want to ban anyone who disagree with them. Hassan being a perfect example of some who refuses to have his ideas challenged at all.

[@MinecraftGod69420]

the dude saying "epstien didn't kill himself" followed by cheering is literally the scene from family guy where Louis says "911 is bad" 😂😂😂😂 like wow you're so brave what a hot take

[@uUuWolf16uUu]

And you provided no insights either. Birds of a feather flock together.

[@MinecraftGod69420]

@@uUuWolf16uUuwhat are you talking about bro lol did you smoke too much

[@uUuWolf16uUu]

@@MinecraftGod69420 so you are also illiterate. Good to know.

[@rogersmith996]

Louis: 9 Crowd: Louis: 11 Crowd:

[@b_hazard]

@@uUuWolf16uUu ah ha, and yet your comment is devoid of any substance 🧐

[@GoDLiKeKakashi]

Pure pain to watch this pure pain. Freedom of speech is really important and if someone gives a take that's false, another person will come and correct them so there's no problem! Immediately followed by the crowd yelling and booing to stop someone from even expressing a different take on things. Truly satire.

[@FooX917]

At times the audience was hesitant to react to the panelists, almost as if they were waiting for their queue to cheer or clap. The only thing they knew for sure was when to boo because thats very clearly against what they were (seemingly) programmed to believe. ironically just proving destiny's point lol. I wish people could just step outside of themselves and look at things objectively instead of desperately clinging to their own beliefs. Almost as if, if their beliefs were shattered they'd be empty shells and may have to address the actual problems. Destiny wont see this comment probably but keep fighting the good fight my man.

[@definitelynotthecia4998]

This was just a bunch of conservative shitposters on a stage reading Facebook memes out loud. Respect to Stephen for doing this, however painful it must have been.

[@miniman2132]

Right? The only thing this debate showed me is that it’s really f***ing easy to get put on a stage with a microphone if you’re a right winger.

[@rajatsinghbhandari9549]

BRO 💀💀💀💀

[@guppo26]

@@miniman2132 But they're being SILENCED and OPPRESSED! The amount of victim mentality on this panel was insane to me.

[@miniman2132]

@@guppo26 something something joke about an attack helicopter.

[@shgalagalaa]

@@guppo26 I dont think theyre being silenced nor pressed but presenting your views on a panel in front of a crowd that already agrees with you doesn't really mean that you aren't being silenced outside of your own bubble.

[@1984isnotamanual]

You are a beast Dest for going into these lion’s dens! Thank you so much for doing this!

[@TheChcam]

The loins den?? This is not that. That would be any mainstream news room

[@subree_keller]

Destiny look like he lost his soul when he realized he was on stage with a bunch of cuckoos... When he realized no real good to pick was going to happen all the joy in his life died 🤣😂🤣 I have never seen a face so adequately show the look of "This is a f*ucking waste of my time, why am I even here?"

[@WhoAmI-kb4vf]

@@TheChcam True, this is more like the chicken's coop lmfaoo

[@1984isnotamanual]

@@WhoAmI-kb4vf More like that cardboard box that you get when you buy baby chicks

[@ethereal489]

@@1984isnotamanual baby chicks with maga hats on😭

[@adriangarbowski1534]

I am not fond of stupid people, but I can't stand stupid people masquerading as intellectuals even more. Cheers to you Stephen for trying!

[@vincentzhaiven4017]

Honestly the more destiny debates both sides on these panels I see how crazed some sound from both the parties. It makes me legitimately grasp that there's less of a dichotomy between the more open minded of the group members because we at least try to understand even if we don't agree on everything our opposition believes or values. People like this only believe only their own rhetoric.

[@Arimil1234512345]

Man, how do they get so many window lickers into a single room together.

[@ChipCheerio]

It’s not very hard, l’d guess something like 80% of people are just about as stupid as this room.

[@bertthompson4748]

Put peanut butter on the windows

[@Arimil1234512345]

@@bertthompson4748 Good call. It keeps in one place for a while and you know they're so dumb they'll never think they got it all cause it smears.

[@ksilva2848]

LMFAYO I'M WRITING THIS ONE DOWN BWAHAHAH ICANNOT

[@networknomad5600]

Better a windowlicker than a bootlicker. Cope.

[@jamescampbell8482]

"More speech not less" Every time stephen speaks, Conservative crowd: BOOOOOOO

[@kthulhukif]

That doesn't mean they want him unable to speak.

[@DrPav]

Love your work.

[@jasonbrooks4219]

I got to see one of these live

[@txync]

Careful, this is one of the most breaindead and infuriating panels he's ever been on.

[@ChipCheerio]

Oh no, even worse than the one he did with Elijah Schaffer?

[@txync]

@@ChipCheerio Absolutely worse.

[@Sprite_525]

@@ChipCheerio oh my god. I dunno if I can take this. Thanks for the heads up lol

[@happycrimson]

okay i might be the minority but i hate these so much lmao. like watching a bunch of brainless people boo and scoff at the most reasonable person in the room is just not for me man.

[@ChipCheerio]

@@kurterikson9441 You know this was livestreamed before it was posted right?

[@howdyman5961]

How the fuck is this supposed to “bridge the cap” when the vast majority of this panel is conservative? This feels more like a circlejerk

[@vajoynus]

It's because we've kicked them out of everywhere else.

[@mariomario1462]

@@vajoynus dont

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

@@vajoynus Good, there isn't any bridging a gap to Q-anon levels of conspiracy. Let them have their "Centrist Libertarian Free Speech Conventions", I'd rather a group of people talk about an issue that doesn't circle back to "Aren't trans people weird amirite?"

[@wojakc7745]

Conservatives have been kicked out from many social circles and a lot of leftists are either cowards, refuse to engage with opposition, are are so blinded by hate that they wouldn’t want to be near conservatives

[@Hollander113]

It's funny when Destiny says life isn't a Tom Clancy novel because Maajid Nawaz his life story could very well have been ripped right out of a Tom Clancy novel.