How Much Can You Charge For Your Shops in RCT2?

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Marcel Vos

Marcel Vos

Күн бұрын

How much is a balloon? Or a hamburger? In this video we find out!
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@Deurklink
@Deurklink 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout Marcel! Something which I found out after writing the guide is that there's actually a line of code that prevents guests from buying ice cream when the temperature is below 12 degrees.. So their cold weather value is actually never used! The same goes for sunglasses as well.
@claudetheclaudeqc6600
@claudetheclaudeqc6600 4 ай бұрын
so charging the price of the normal conditions it is!
@kiwami5604
@kiwami5604 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe in all my years playing this game I never considered that the in-game temperature would affect how much guests would pay for certain food. I always thought all food types were basically the same and the different types were just for theming.
@naibakie8519
@naibakie8519 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing, seeing how much thought and attention CS put into the different systems in the game, and how we're still learning about them all today!
@Bonde7280
@Bonde7280 2 жыл бұрын
@@naibakie8519 If you really want to see how much thought and attention he'd put into his games, you just need to look at his first game. Transport tycoon. Its kinda sad after making these two masterpieces he has turned to mobilegames.
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is I'd always try to imagine what kind of food would be good in certain environments. For example I already assumed people in a snowy park wouldn't want to eat ice cream and would rather have something like hot chocolate to warm them up and crave their sweet tooth. But that was moreso with the obvious shops, and I didn't think it legitimately effected the sales and pricing. It was more so just me role playing and trying to inject some realism into my parks
@ArtSMRdianne
@ArtSMRdianne 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gameprojordan same!
@Davtwan
@Davtwan 2 жыл бұрын
Different types of food also affect guests in various ways too. For example, popcorn will make guests thirstier and thus more likely to buy a drink.
@smith9808
@smith9808 2 жыл бұрын
I still can’t believe Chris Sawyer put this much thought and detail into his games. His hard work really paid though, considering how we’re still talking about it 20+ years on. Incredible game!
@Aereto
@Aereto 2 жыл бұрын
A lot more detail in mechanics than most modern games with a big budget.
@NolePTR
@NolePTR 2 жыл бұрын
He did it all in x86 assembly too. Which is just masochistic.
@MiguelRPD
@MiguelRPD 2 жыл бұрын
@@NolePTR thats exactly why. He basically built a car from scratch so he set everything out the way he wanted to along the way.
@your-mom-irl
@your-mom-irl 2 жыл бұрын
@@NolePTR I know he did transport tycoon on assembly, but rct2? Was that also assembly? Sounds crazy.
@wuberkz1692
@wuberkz1692 Жыл бұрын
@@your-mom-irl sounds crazy yet it's all completely true. Chris was a genius madman
@WereDictionary
@WereDictionary 2 жыл бұрын
I keep being amazed at how detailed Chris Sawyer made these games. There are so many tiny things I would never have noticed so Im happy that there are people like Marcel who shed light onto these things.
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko 2 жыл бұрын
He has some stuff in common with the dwarf fortress guy
@stellacollector
@stellacollector 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, out of all items with varying price with respect to temperature, tentacles are the most unexpected one.
@hunterwylie6969
@hunterwylie6969 2 жыл бұрын
I always chalked this up to my limited knowledge within US parks, but are tentacles a not-so uncommon thing to be sold elsewhere? And is it truly reasonable for this to be temperature-dependent? And are we talking tentacle bits similar to fried calamari, or more of a “octopus-on-a-stick” product? The questions are seemingly endless for my limited vantage point here in the US…
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan 2 жыл бұрын
My personal guess is It's because the tentacle drastically increases guests thirst level, I'm pretty sure it's on par with or worse than pretzel stalls. So a guest wouldn't be as compelled to want to eat something that would dehydrate them that much in a hot environment
@hunterwylie6969
@hunterwylie6969 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gameprojordan easy fix: add beer cheese dip like they do for pretzels! 😂 But that reasoning makes sense to me. RCT devs definitely put a lot of depth into these dependencies, so it isn’t far-fetched.
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan 2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterwylie6969 mmmm cheese..... haha but yeah seriously the developers of this game were thinking really far ahead with all of these features. It's insane how innovative games were decades ago compared to now, no soul left in modern gaming companies
@HiSodiumContent
@HiSodiumContent 2 жыл бұрын
Cmon now, that isn't exactly fair. I mean, I dislike most modern games, but there's still some soulful bangers getting released, mostly by small teams and indie devs. But you know, if you're talking about studios with thousand person teams and shareholders the publishers gotta answer to, then yeah, the soul has been mostly stripped from those.
@hngldr
@hngldr 2 жыл бұрын
Also advice for getting the most items sold - always try to sell them right after the exit to a good ride. Guest happiness is almost ALWAYS highest right after they get off a ride, slowly draining until they get on (and then off) a ride again. I've been doing this for years and there is a NOTICEABLE difference. Parks use this strategy IRL as well. Out and about on paths, the majority of things that affect guest happiness impact it negatively, and the things that positively affect happiness hardly move it at all. Meanwhile a coaster ride can take them from 25% to 100% easily.
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember an in-game loading screen tip saying to put Hat and T-shirt stalls outside your best rides because happy guests are more likely to buy extras like those and on-ride photos
@WackoMcGoose
@WackoMcGoose 2 жыл бұрын
Just be sure to put those food and drink stalls at the END of a ride... If you put them at the entrance, expect the ride exit to become a puke carpet.
@Pophet84
@Pophet84 2 жыл бұрын
your advise doesnt work for every ride. a lot of guest feel sick directly after a ride and will buy NOTHING at all, untill they got some rest in form of a bench or first aid. but your tipp does help with min/max playstyles in which you build no "spinning/high nausea" anyways. which btw would be a good video topic for marcel. rides with high nausea are in general less popular AND make your guests sick.
@KingChayle87
@KingChayle87 2 жыл бұрын
The tentacle one confuses me because I never thought about whether it was a hot or cold item
@wisniamw
@wisniamw 2 жыл бұрын
did you ever heard about boiled octo? and did you ever heard about ice cream octo? I always try to go with this logic more or less
@Gin-toki
@Gin-toki 2 жыл бұрын
@@wisniamw octo icecream does exist in some parts of the world :P Also I have not heard of boiled octo but fried octo, which tends to be rather hot, like all fried foods. And on that note, in some hotter parts of the world, they eat a lot of fried food, so the temperature apparently does not bother them in this regard.
@belacickekl7579
@belacickekl7579 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought tentacles were hot! .... Wait, wrong subreddit hahahaha
@wisniamw
@wisniamw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gin-toki never heard of octo ice creams, wonder how they taste :D But still, its fried so expect ,,hot" shop
@kissenklauer7011
@kissenklauer7011 2 жыл бұрын
the table states the price of tentacle drops when it's hot and when it's cold. but it loses most value when it's cold outside. maybe a dish that's best enjoyed on a neutral day? lol
@DJAvren
@DJAvren 2 жыл бұрын
'Hello and welcome to another video' I was just imagining Marcel doing an April 1st joke where he uploads a duplicate video from the day before, but only changes the intro to 'Hello and welcome to the same video'
@Templarfreak
@Templarfreak 2 жыл бұрын
"this video is heavily based" - marcel 7:13 at the same time, the random chance also accounts for those people that you said may have a set limit of how much they want to spend but then redecides later if they would rather go a little over their set limit :D
@AaronRotenberg
@AaronRotenberg 2 жыл бұрын
All those guests who think ice cream is better when it's hot out are getting ripped off. The best time to eat ice cream is when it's cool, so that it doesn't melt before you get to eat it.
@peterlockhart3923
@peterlockhart3923 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial on how to make me feel like Disney upper management!
@chompythebeast
@chompythebeast 2 жыл бұрын
Charge anything close to Disney prices, even adjusted for inflation over the last 20 years, and nobody will buy a thing lol Well, except for Umbrellas
@TheOriginalJphyper
@TheOriginalJphyper 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know this in RCT3. The inspector is constantly pestering me by saying "The prices at [insert stall here] are too cheap". However, customers aren't as willing to pay high prices as they are in the first two games. It's especially annoying in sandbox mode where money doesn't matter.
@richardg6983
@richardg6983 2 жыл бұрын
Turn off the inspectors thoughts, put him in a deep hole and cover it up
@alexstewart9592
@alexstewart9592 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardg6983 You can also just tell the inspector to not check stalls.
@thekingoffailure9967
@thekingoffailure9967 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardg6983 Silence his thought crimes
@fightaman7
@fightaman7 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Marcel, any chance you can do a video explaining how ride popularity works? I always thought that excitement rating affected how popular a ride would be, but I believe I recall you saying that it has no effect whatsoever. Whenever I create dueling coasters, even though they're the same type and have nearly identical stats, 1 seems to be a lot more popular than the other. I've been wanting to understand exactly how ride popularity mechanics work but haven't found a thorough explanation so far. Thanks for all the great RCT2 content!
@procrastinator0219
@procrastinator0219 2 жыл бұрын
Short video idea: Jumping fountains plus other interesting notes from Chris Sawyer’s website. I really love finding out more and more about the mechanics of a 20 year old game.
@darkowl9
@darkowl9 2 жыл бұрын
I always wished that RCT was a bit more like Bullfrog's Theme Park, in that in Theme Park you could adjust the salt on food, ice in drinks, caffeine in coffee etc., so you could end up making your guests all hyper, salt their food so they're desperate for drinks and such. You'd make bank, but with the downside that they were much much more likely to vomit everywhere. RCT is a great game, but I do wish it leaned a bit more into dark humour sometimes.
@EvanBear
@EvanBear 2 жыл бұрын
"caffeine in coffee" Is everyone drinking decaf in that game? :D
@jakobfel2
@jakobfel2 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Sawyer and his truly tiny development team seriously deserve major commendation for the level of depth that the first two RCT games have. It's actually pretty absurd how deep they are, yet they're also developed in such a way as to not make you feel overwhelmed as a newcomer. It's an incredible feat of development.
@theonlyron
@theonlyron 3 ай бұрын
You might be interested in a talk that award winning game designer Ben Brode gave lately. He talked about exactly what you're describing: Games with lots of depth, think replayability and mechanics you can min/max, with a small amount of complexity, the amount a player needs to learn to understand how to play the game effectively.
@Davtwan
@Davtwan 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of details in stalls, I would like to know the differences in satisfying hunger and thirst for the various food and drink stalls. For example, ice cream has a nice ability to satisfy both hunger and thirst while popcorn can make guests get thirsty faster due to how salty it is. It’s stuff like that which make the stalls even more interesting.
@Toonrick12
@Toonrick12 Жыл бұрын
So the ice cream is more of a milkshake then?
@Davtwan
@Davtwan Жыл бұрын
@@Toonrick12 - Not exactly. It satisfies thirst by either decreasing it slowly or just pauses it from going down. I forgot which is the case.
@theonlyron
@theonlyron 3 ай бұрын
Hey just chiming in to mention that Marcel did a video in which he debunked the "salty foods" belief, and said that no food makes guests thirsty faster, IIRC 🙂
@coasternut3091
@coasternut3091 2 жыл бұрын
Do different foods refill hunger differently? Does coffee give the guests more energy? These are my questions
@jedi92486
@jedi92486 2 жыл бұрын
Back when Corkscrew Follies came out I got a strategy guide for RCT. For years I thought it was a pretty comprehensive guide. This channel has bit by bit completely destroyed everything in that book! XD Now I wish I could get an updated book with all this info.
@esotericpince
@esotericpince 2 жыл бұрын
i would totally fund a 2000s style strategy guide made by marcel, theres such a charm to them even if the information is useless to experienced players
@ryanm.968
@ryanm.968 2 жыл бұрын
@@esotericpince Agreed. I have an RCT2 guide that has a LOT of bs information and strategies directly contradicted by Marcel and experience. I love rewatching these videos, and a companion book would be awesome.
@beunjoris
@beunjoris 2 жыл бұрын
@@esotericpince Can we make this happen?
@FirebunbunYT
@FirebunbunYT 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know the name of your book or where I can find a PDF of it? I'm morbidly curious.
@SleinMcAwesome
@SleinMcAwesome 2 жыл бұрын
Quit STALLing and tell us the price already! ;)
@genoesposito2895
@genoesposito2895 2 жыл бұрын
The tentacle stand is so goddamn weird.
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos 2 жыл бұрын
The weirdest part is that when they consume the tentacle the animation makes it look like they're drinking out of it.
@belacickekl7579
@belacickekl7579 2 жыл бұрын
I have been to several theme parks, and never once have I seen any stands selling tentacles, tbh. Definitely not for me
@jimmypatton4982
@jimmypatton4982 2 жыл бұрын
I could image theme parks in Japan or other places being much more likely to sell them.
@yourex-wife4259
@yourex-wife4259 2 жыл бұрын
I love when game designers have attention to detail like this
@gargaduk
@gargaduk 2 жыл бұрын
@@8LegoVogel8 No, it was a general statement.
@gargaduk
@gargaduk 2 жыл бұрын
​@@8LegoVogel8 So maybe you still didn't get it, what they wanted to say (I'm assuming), is that they like attention to detail in general, in any game. Not just this one in particular.
@gargaduk
@gargaduk 2 жыл бұрын
​@@8LegoVogel8 "Or is it that's there's a general love for attention to detail, applicable to all sorts of games, like mind-games?" Yes, this one I think. It's really not that complicated :) Although the example of mind-games confuses me again. Just video games.
@CrAzYpotpie
@CrAzYpotpie 2 жыл бұрын
@@8LegoVogel8 Wtf are you talking about?
@chrinschbro
@chrinschbro 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Marcel I LOVE your Videos and your streams :) Thank you so much for giving us all this ;)
@decalcomanie123
@decalcomanie123 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed there's a satisfaction percentage that varies among stalls. I always consider that to reflect how appropriately priced the items are, considering food and stuff don't really have stats other than their price. Is that something related to pricing?
@ArtSMRdianne
@ArtSMRdianne 2 жыл бұрын
You can max out the price they're willing to pay but the satisfaction rate will go below 75%. Like toilets, you can ask more than 0.20ct and they still pay but 0.20ct is the max you can ask and still keep 75% satisfaction. Never compromise with umbrella ;)
@raphahardt
@raphahardt 2 жыл бұрын
The level of detail of this 20 years old game never cease to amaze me
@ext93
@ext93 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember the neighbors letting my sister and I borrow the cd for rct1 back in 1999. I asked my parents for RCT the next Christmas. Then corkscrew follies was released and my sister got it for her birthday. The game blew my 6 year old mind and its still amazing 20+ years later
@StefanVeenstra
@StefanVeenstra 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can do one on guests stats and how they impact/relate to eachother? Happiness stat is an important factor for many things, and knowing Chris' eye for detail I wonder if energy/hunger/thirst has any influence on that happiness stat. Guests do sometimes “complain” about not being hungry or thirsty after approaching a shop. Wonder that influences their mood.
@HECKproductions
@HECKproductions 2 жыл бұрын
i always put souvenir stands (especially balloos because they can be bought multiple times) in front of exits of popular coasters the extra happiness that the guest will have due to riding a ride will make them easily pay much more
@Knuxfan24
@Knuxfan24 2 жыл бұрын
The temperature ISN'T cosmetic?!
@StefanVeenstra
@StefanVeenstra 2 жыл бұрын
Overcharge too much and the guest won't only complain, their happiness decreases too. So it's best to keep the overcharge acceptably within range of the normal happiness value of 128. That way more people will buy and you'll turn a better profit. Personally I round it up to the next .00 or .50 from the initial pricing. ($1 for ice cream, park maps, $1.50 for cold drinks, $2 for hot drinks and food. Some food even for $2.50 (burgers/chicken/fries) or $3 (pizza, tentacles))
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’ve done too, I always make maps super cheap though to encourage guests to not get lost (don’t know if it does anything besides send them to different rides throughout the park though)
@ArtSMRdianne
@ArtSMRdianne 2 жыл бұрын
@@roddydykes7053 funny I make them .80ct because they all want a park map to not get lost 😄 My strategy is always .10 or .20ct above standard price and then sunglasses, toys shirts etc go up with .30ct
@Chris-cj5rh
@Chris-cj5rh 2 жыл бұрын
Hooray! Marcel listened to my idea
@LEWIS1992
@LEWIS1992 11 ай бұрын
"If you keep your guests very happy, you can get away with overcharging" *Disney has entered the chat*
@thomasesthomas1996
@thomasesthomas1996 Жыл бұрын
I usually use the total profit, selling drinks for a minimum $1.00 for drinks, $1.50 for food, $2.00 for souvenirs. Balloons and cheap food 0.60. Umbrella always $18 profit. Toilets 0.30.
@martind2520
@martind2520 Жыл бұрын
Chris Sawyer: "We must have a perfect simulation of how guests will pay for items." Also Chris Sawyer: "Cutting the grass and watering the plants will do nothing, but the handymen will spend most of their time doing those jobs!"
@YadonTheCat
@YadonTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot this game even had a temperature display, I never knew it did anything
@r.i.pwindowsxp6876
@r.i.pwindowsxp6876 2 жыл бұрын
This game has more detail and care than many new triple A games
@Kiraidi720
@Kiraidi720 2 жыл бұрын
I don't usually comment on these but it's absolutely fascinating how in-depth you go with some of the aspects of this game. For a long time I always wondered if I was overpricing or underselling the shop items/food and this video answered pretty much all of those questions very thoroughly, thanks a bunch.
@KillinTime2792
@KillinTime2792 2 жыл бұрын
marcel, if you were a peep in rct2 and you had to survive in a park for 10 years, which stalls would you get food/drink from the most?
@ext93
@ext93 2 жыл бұрын
Tentacles only and hot chocolate only, bro
@Mechanoid
@Mechanoid 2 жыл бұрын
Marcel, thank you for this
@dokay999
@dokay999 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a separate video about weather. That has been the topic so often now and sounds interesting. It has so much influence. It's fun to watch you. Thank you
@ryanm.968
@ryanm.968 2 жыл бұрын
Do some food items fill up guests better than others, or is popcorn equal to a burger?
@yofyo
@yofyo 2 жыл бұрын
0:13 "This video is heavily based-" oh don't worry, we know
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat 2 жыл бұрын
Food stalls! I've been curious about this for a while
@dirtz5702
@dirtz5702 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a detailed analysis of the atm machine, I imagine it's similar to this complexity
@KaganB
@KaganB 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Marcel, great video! Well made and presented. Question for you… Other than keeping guests happy, are shops even worth the time? I feel like 1 mediocre coaster makes more money than several shops and stalls, so in scenario play I usually only build the bare minimum of shops and stalls to keep guests happy. Of course info kiosks with €20 umbrellas are an outlier, but typically rides are a FAR better investment than shops and stalls. I just don’t waste my time building extra shops and stalls beyond keeping guests happy unless it’s for aesthetic/realism purposes.
@summerforestfairy
@summerforestfairy 2 жыл бұрын
✍️ keep ✍️ guests ✍️ happy ✍️ for ✍️ exploitation
@DanielSchmidt94521
@DanielSchmidt94521 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I finally beat some of my scenarios thanks to watching your videos. Your thoughts really help my progress. Im a big fan of this game and love your channel.
@__8120
@__8120 Жыл бұрын
"this video is heavily based" so true Marcel
@kwatar54
@kwatar54 2 жыл бұрын
2:51 is what the Marcel Vos veterans are looking for...
@reillywalker195
@reillywalker195 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell this game was made by a Brit since 21°C is considered hot...
@AM-di4pq
@AM-di4pq 2 жыл бұрын
I always charge $4 for souvenirs, shirts, hats, photos, and umbrellas (to make it harder for me). I always place these stalls so the guests run into them as they exit a ride, like a IRL gift shop and it works great. $2 for all drinks, and $2.50 for all "dinner" food. $1.50 for maps, balloons, ice creams, cotton candy. I also zone entertainers around food stalls, which I place near ride exits, so guests are happier and can find food faster.
@ext93
@ext93 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I like to place hat/shirt/souvenir/etc stalls near the exit of my few best coasters. Happy guests almost always buy after a good ride (unless they get sick) and they can buy something to go with their overpriced on-ride photo 😁💰
@ext93
@ext93 2 жыл бұрын
You are great, Marcel. Thanks for another informative video
@OrangeSodaKing
@OrangeSodaKing 2 жыл бұрын
Mind blown!! Love it. Also, still hoping you do a video about litter bins!
@ArtSMRdianne
@ArtSMRdianne 2 жыл бұрын
How long does it take for them to be full and in need of a staff member to clean it out?! Employees for 5 years can have 7 emptied litter bins or so?? And then there's me placing bins after ever 10 tiles so there's no trash
@TS_Mind_Swept
@TS_Mind_Swept 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, it's actually better to have sunglasses when it's raining because it protects your eyes when you're on the rides (depends how hard it's raining of course; if it's a deluge and everything's closed then obviously that's an exception :p)
@indyandherjones
@indyandherjones 2 жыл бұрын
Another reason this game is so amazing. The attention to detail with gameplay is bonkers
@DarkWarchieff
@DarkWarchieff 2 жыл бұрын
So temp can do things? Why the HELL do they ride water rides at freezing point?!
@SineN0mine3
@SineN0mine3 2 жыл бұрын
People irl ride water rides if there aren't a lot of options. In colder places water rides tend to focus less on splashing people and more on making people *think* they're going to cop a soaking. Besides, if you paid to get in you're going to try to ride everything you can.
@kotzpenner
@kotzpenner 2 жыл бұрын
"This video is heavily based"
@martinferrand4711
@martinferrand4711 2 жыл бұрын
If you know the average temperature of a zone, and the average amount of rain (frequence and duration) then making a prediction of expected gain per item sold is easy Are those informations known in this game? Sorry i don't really know much about this game, i'm mostly talking about math ^^
@tifforo1
@tifforo1 2 жыл бұрын
The wiki says that, if you count the expansions, there are only four different climates that influence temperature and rain. If you take out the cold climate from an expansion that's only in a few scenarios, and the desert climate that's only in like three scenarios, basically every scenario has one of two climates, one that's normal temperature and one that's warmer and I think rains more. Obviously, the month of the year is strongly related to temperature, and I'm almost certain it's part random. I suspect month is related to rain as well. Most in game scenarios are three or four years
@martinferrand4711
@martinferrand4711 2 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in crunching the numbers with a bit of programing :) I would like to know if average temperature of levels are known and if the amount of rain is known (frequence and duration in average) If both are known I think it's possible to help the community a bit :)
@PlatinumEagleStudios
@PlatinumEagleStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Make this same video but with RCT3. I'm curious to know since I tend to play RCT3 more than 2. Plus, you should make more RCT3 videos.
@djriki0
@djriki0 2 жыл бұрын
@MarcelVos Why in every your video is CC only the netherland language available? Can you fix it to english (as spoken) please? Thanks. Great vids! 🙂
@kvdrr
@kvdrr 2 жыл бұрын
On the 1st of April, Marcel will make a video with clickbait thumbnail & title, recite his raw data findings in 5 seconds without any explanation of why and how, and make it one hour long with black screen filler. And ads.
@hngldr
@hngldr 2 жыл бұрын
That's wild that the temperature matters - I never would've thought of that!!! Thanks for the video!!!
@RobAdieComedy
@RobAdieComedy 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you revist this video and actually find the optimum price for every item and every scenario. When I play, I HATE having to manually change prices to fit the temperature.
@supersonicbros23
@supersonicbros23 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Marcel Vos While screwing around I trapped a guest in a island with free food, drink, and benches and he never used either since he got here, despite exhausted, dehydrated, and starving to death. What decides whether they'll use amenities such as benches or buy food?
@martinchamberlin3359
@martinchamberlin3359 2 жыл бұрын
Ignoring the weather factor, you can find the optimum price using the chart at 4:22. Just multiply each "Extra Price" entry by its corresponding percentage, e.g. $0.20 x 0.75, 0.875, and 1.00. Whichever is the highest result is the most profitable "Extra Price". So assuming happiness is always over 180, the extra price of $1.90 x 50% = 0.95 is the highest value on the chart.
@cowscrazy
@cowscrazy 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a video about how far guests will travel for Food/drink/toilets before they start to complain and park rating goes down. I have a fairly large park and I feel I have a good balance of shops . Or is it possible to have so many guests in your park its impossible to stop them all very being upset about something. You can't please all the the people all the time sort of thing.
@DeanAmx
@DeanAmx 2 жыл бұрын
Marcel could you explain on which food/drinks that provide garbage?
@PaulCashman
@PaulCashman 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm not paying that much to be attacked by tentacles from Tentacles Stall #2!"
@TubeCody
@TubeCody 2 жыл бұрын
This blew me away
@rtyuik7
@rtyuik7 Ай бұрын
4:25(ish) - also known as the Disney Effect-- keep guests Happy, so theyll Spend More Money
@capacitatedflux
@capacitatedflux 2 жыл бұрын
51-70°F sure doesn't feel like it'd be a "normal" temperature. I know I don't want to be eating ice cream at 60°F. Feels like it should be closer to, like, 60-80°F. Might not translate as well with Celsius calculations though. I can't believe I never considered the effect temps would have on pricing, though.
@chompythebeast
@chompythebeast 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta remember, the dev is Scottish. A 60°F day is a fine day indeed in the north
@capacitatedflux
@capacitatedflux 2 жыл бұрын
@@chompythebeast true, and I did indeed forget the dev was Scottish.
@SineN0mine3
@SineN0mine3 2 жыл бұрын
Living in Australia, when the rellies from the UK come over they complain about it being hot on the same day we complain about the cold. Temperatures under 20 something are generally considered on the cool side here, but in lots of places up North that's like beach weather. On a side note i have no idea how to convert celcius to farenheit in my head but google tells me 70°F is roughly 21°C, so I'd agree with you about it not being hot. About it not being icecream weather, I beg to differ. With the addition of hot fudge topping and a thick blanket you can eat ice cream proper cold days.
@Flaminstarwarsguy851
@Flaminstarwarsguy851 2 жыл бұрын
With this information in hand, I wonder which stalls are the best and worst? A guide on the best and worst food, drink, and merchandise stalls would probably be quite interesting to watch.
@WeebJail
@WeebJail 2 жыл бұрын
wow this has way more thought put into it than my 6 year old brain could have ever imagined huh
@familybroakajonny
@familybroakajonny 2 жыл бұрын
Dang!! I never knew the temperature affected the way guests buy things. What a great detail for a 1999-2003 game. I’m still learning new things about this game LMAO.
@benjsmithproductions
@benjsmithproductions 5 ай бұрын
Love the RCT umbrella mechanic. I was 8 years old and my games were teaching me price gouging for kids.
@velvetbutterfly
@velvetbutterfly 2 жыл бұрын
Me: "man I need to get busy, I have work I gotta get done, things I want to learn" YT: "how much can you charge for your shops in RCT2?" Me: "well, damn. Guess I'm not getting anything done"
@SadDragonNoises
@SadDragonNoises 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a tally of how many stalls do better in each temperature: Hot: 9 Warm(Base): 0 Cold: 15 No Change: 7 Not Hot: 0 Not Warm: 0 Not Cold: 3 Needless to say, if stalls are your cash cow; choose a cold climate.
@RatelHBadger
@RatelHBadger Жыл бұрын
You could micromanage the shop prices depending on the day/season to ridiculous levels to maximize profits. Delightful!!!
@firockfinion3326
@firockfinion3326 2 жыл бұрын
Neat!
@Mina_Fox_90
@Mina_Fox_90 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Should have known beforehand when it comes to the temperatures and climates per scenario. Next, you should do one about what food/drink stalls are most profitable and recommended without impacting guests other needs. For instance, the Pizza Stall is a great price to construct and have multiples of and about the most profitable of any food stall - which can guarantee the player a Best Food Award; and how the Exotic Sea Food Stall on the other hand is very expensive to build than most other food stalls and has a terrible profit and that tentacles cost exactly $1.10 per supply - more than most other food stalls, and how food stalls like them are the last you would need in your park up to completing or should only be built post-completion per scenario.
@PrismariLaura
@PrismariLaura Жыл бұрын
Coming from a tropical country, seeing 21°C be described as "hot" made me laugh a bit lol Around here, "hot" usually starts at 27°C
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 2 жыл бұрын
Man I used to play this game on an IBM desktop running Windows 98. Real cache of nostalgia. I need to find my discs for RCT 1 and 2. Its been so many years since I bought Triple Thrill Pack at Wal-Mart.
@Pophet84
@Pophet84 2 жыл бұрын
i always up the default by 30 cents for EVERY shop. i know it is not perfect whatsoever, but it works and is easy to memorize. that includes toilets for 30 cents.
@brandonwombacher2559
@brandonwombacher2559 2 жыл бұрын
Does this information apply to Roller Coaster Tycoon Classic Also Or Is This Exclusive To RCT2?🤔
@joshuadoll9000
@joshuadoll9000 2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that umbrellas will sell for more money when it's cold and sell for less money when it's hot. That doesn't seem quite right as honestly I'd expect umbrellas to sell more when it's hot as people would use them to shelter themselves from the direct sunlight and give themselves some shade. I honestly see more umbrellas out on a hot, cloudless, sunny day than on a miserable, dreary, rainy day.
@ArtSMRdianne
@ArtSMRdianne 2 жыл бұрын
I bet it depends in what part of the world you live in. People over here will look at you strangely when you're walking with an umbrella when it's sunny 🤭
@joshuadoll9000
@joshuadoll9000 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArtSMRdianne True but umbrellas selling better when it's cold is definitely weird. I can't imagine why someone would want umbrellas when it's cold out. I could understand if it was cloudy but simply cold doesn't make any sense.
@OrangeSodaKing
@OrangeSodaKing 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it doesn’t rain as much on hot levels? I’m pretty sure it rarely rains on desert levels like Dynamite Dunes. Maybe that makes them less interested in buying umbrellas.
@JD3Gamer
@JD3Gamer 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always just done the base price for everything except for the umbrella which I set to $20
@rahmspinat
@rahmspinat 2 жыл бұрын
To a whole universe pf pixel thrillseekers, Chris Sawyer is a genuine god, complete with free will, the inability to communicate with the deity, arbitrary rules, smiting, and the ability to create side-gods.
@Saucy-ws6jc
@Saucy-ws6jc 2 жыл бұрын
$.50 for drinks to keep Michael Douglas's character in 'Falling Down' happy
@ComfyCherry
@ComfyCherry Жыл бұрын
I guess it's because I'm aussie and it's bloody hot here most of the time but 21° degrees is a nice temperature anything over ~25° is where I draw the line personally.
@Mizai
@Mizai 10 ай бұрын
this is why Disney wants $20 for a umbrella
@Centbair
@Centbair 2 жыл бұрын
Charge 20 for an umbrella + rain = stonks. It is a good way, as guests normally don't go on rides when raining. If you charge for the rides, umbrella is the best way to break even or earn more. :D
@jasmijnariel
@jasmijnariel 9 ай бұрын
Does giving away things for free, like balloons, make them "buy" more of them?
@JoegaroghanOfficial
@JoegaroghanOfficial 7 ай бұрын
Challenge idea: Can you beat RTC with Max prices for all shops and rides?
@Synnystershy
@Synnystershy 2 жыл бұрын
I usually charge a price that gives me £1 profit. *EDIT* only food and beverage items.
@dinoblacklane1640
@dinoblacklane1640 2 ай бұрын
21 degrees is considered hot 12 degrees is not considered cold Man these rc people are definitely British
@Arkouchie
@Arkouchie 2 жыл бұрын
I forget which game, but I remember an RCT game where you could sell very very cheap fries with a ton of salt and then overcharge massively for soda and make a fortune.
@veggiet2009
@veggiet2009 2 жыл бұрын
Just to be annoyingly specific this base price (+ factors) is the maximum they're willing to pay?
@roboblade6046
@roboblade6046 2 жыл бұрын
I love that people will pay more for a map when it's cold. "Please tell me where I can get out of this SNOW thank you have 10 cents more than normal"
@sazzlysarah
@sazzlysarah 2 жыл бұрын
Hhhmmmm, I wonder if there's a plugin to control the prices based on condition similar to the ride price manager plugin...
@R.DeMora
@R.DeMora Жыл бұрын
21° C is hot? That's a very chill and cool afternoon. Hot would be 35 to 40°C.
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