RCT2 Derailing Trains Explained

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Marcel Vos

Marcel Vos

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@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Technical Jump for reminding me that coasters can of course also derail on banked level to gentle and gentle to level track pieces. The speed limits for these are the same as for the unbanked pieces.
@familybroakajonny
@familybroakajonny 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t mention it to him :)
@ruediix
@ruediix 3 жыл бұрын
This is often where the confusion about turns come in. The vehicle is actually crashing on these pieces, not the turn pieces.
@blah40000
@blah40000 3 жыл бұрын
>Guest weight effects speed Is this why the 'Dynamite Blaster' roller coaster in 'Dynamite Dunes' always eventually crashes?
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos 3 жыл бұрын
@@blah40000 That is probably because some kind of breakdown rather than guest weight.
@rubywest5166
@rubywest5166 3 жыл бұрын
@@blah40000 A safety cut off where one train's stuck on the lift hill near the bottom's the probable cause
@seanwalters1977
@seanwalters1977 3 жыл бұрын
3:10 POV: You just witnessed the train ahead of you explode to your left. You are still climbing the hill.
@TheGoldenNick
@TheGoldenNick Жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@5MadMovieMakers
@5MadMovieMakers 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, who filled all these gravity-powered coaster cars with highly explosive gasoline?
@GrumpyIan
@GrumpyIan 3 жыл бұрын
Teenage Micheal Bay.
@johnfoltz8183
@johnfoltz8183 3 жыл бұрын
And the dinghies on the Dinghy slides are filled with pure oxygen
@ChromeBirb
@ChromeBirb 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, you're going to lose it when you hear what the minigolf clubs are made out of
@TeemoQuinton
@TeemoQuinton 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChromeBirb MAGNESIUM
@claudetheclaudeqc6600
@claudetheclaudeqc6600 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeemoQuinton wait, grass have heat?
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece 3 жыл бұрын
Schrödingers guest: While in the tunnel they are alive and dead at the same time. So breaking a neck isn't a problem.
@jvccr7533
@jvccr7533 3 жыл бұрын
The creator of water slide Verrückt: Heh.
@theclaudeqc3rdone290
@theclaudeqc3rdone290 3 жыл бұрын
Action park solutions
@JasonHenderson
@JasonHenderson 3 жыл бұрын
@@jvccr7533 that slide was about 25 minutes away from my house. I knew people who worked at the park and they were like yeah don't ever ride it
@Ze_eT
@Ze_eT 3 жыл бұрын
@@jvccr7533 As a German person that ride name is accurate. You have to be verrückt to make such a ride.
@jvccr7533
@jvccr7533 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ze_eT Todesfalle would be even more accurate. How anyone thought this was an acceptable ride...
@lucasduque8289
@lucasduque8289 3 жыл бұрын
I will definitely use this guide a lot to "avoid" derailing. It would be "a shame" if some guests were to die in a derailing accident.
@VictorPenteado
@VictorPenteado 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the rubber boats explodes when they touch something that is not the track piece
@danielrhouck
@danielrhouck 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if RCT had a “test with sand bags” option so the train was heavier in test mode.
@KL53986
@KL53986 2 жыл бұрын
This would be pretty good as thats how real life rollercoasters are tested
@lainwired3946
@lainwired3946 2 жыл бұрын
That was the exact wording I was gonna use coming to the comments lol, "variable sandbag mode"
@MarsJenkar
@MarsJenkar Жыл бұрын
Sandbags and/or water dummies.
@davidpreston9909
@davidpreston9909 Жыл бұрын
Hah! Reminds me of the time a friend and I went to Alton Towers (UK) to ride the then very new Revolution (first corkscrew in the UK). We were on our way somewhere else and only called at Alton Towers on the way, especially to ride the Revolution, so we were there early, as the ride was going through a few test runs at the start of the day. It was run round empty a couple of times and then with plastic sacks of gravel in some of the seats. (The sacks were plastic ones like you'd buy from a garden centre or home improvements store.) Anyhow, one of the sacks flew out of the car on a turn, hit the ground and burst. My friend took an awful lot of persuading to go on the ride after that happened. He eventually accepted that the restraints weren't designed for bags of gravel and we did ride it that morning.
@thekilla1234
@thekilla1234 3 жыл бұрын
2:40 I love how this ride has been designed so the people going up the chain lift can see what they are about to experience.
@Leblribrbrrq
@Leblribrbrrq 2 жыл бұрын
"This is fine."
@br8581
@br8581 3 жыл бұрын
I was so afraid of dinghy slides as a kid because of what I saw happen to guests in my RCT2 parks.
@rrai1999
@rrai1999 3 жыл бұрын
You should be afraid!
@uzijn
@uzijn 3 жыл бұрын
Me too then I went to a water park and my arse came off the bottom when on one of those slides. Thankfully I didn't get hurt or come out of the dinghy entirely but it was scary.
@CoffeeKitty.
@CoffeeKitty. 3 жыл бұрын
nah dude you should be, people have literally been killed on them IRL because of hitting their head. a park near where i live had a kid killed a few years back from this exact thing. Fuck slides.
@SpankinDaBagel
@SpankinDaBagel 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoffeeKitty. Kansas City by chance? Schlitterbahn comes to mind.
@Goz86
@Goz86 3 жыл бұрын
Guest# 1232 got decapitated on dinghy slide tunnel 2nd slope. Park rating now at 587 from 600. Free soda coupon for next 3 weeks. Park rating back to 600. Crisis averted.
@alexdivision4320
@alexdivision4320 3 жыл бұрын
Saying you had a chainlift that accelerates the dinghy to 100kph had me cracking up no joke
@claudetheclaudeqc6600
@claudetheclaudeqc6600 3 жыл бұрын
@@NachoCheesus or a looping dinghy, I talk to you "action park"
@coolbrotherf127
@coolbrotherf127 3 жыл бұрын
Just to make sure that ride has a good excitement rating
@JCBro-yg8vd
@JCBro-yg8vd 3 жыл бұрын
There are some water slides in real life that launch rafts out of the station, but they aren't your standard innertube slides.
@DeuteriumtheSentientMattress
@DeuteriumtheSentientMattress 3 жыл бұрын
There's nothing in the world like Action Park!
@MickanMansRCTStation
@MickanMansRCTStation 3 жыл бұрын
1:55 Really interesting point about only having to worry about the speed of the first car in the train, wasn't aware of this and really useful to know, thanks!
@tifforo1
@tifforo1 3 жыл бұрын
@@mugrides6177 Apparently none of the cars are attached to the track but the back cars are attached to the front cars in a way that prohibits derailing?
@Ostbuggen
@Ostbuggen 3 жыл бұрын
5:10 The guests can't puke if they're dead. *taps forehead*
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 3 жыл бұрын
0:50 was a beautiful synchronized doom ride You’re a champ, Marcel
@alexsbikesandmotors
@alexsbikesandmotors 3 жыл бұрын
There was a real life dinghy ride called verruckt. They noticed the trains were flying off the track so they added a tunnel piece but a guest got decapitated. True story it was in kansas
@cool110
@cool110 3 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a full tunnel, just some netting. The poles holding it up causing the decapitation.
@eriklakeland3857
@eriklakeland3857 3 жыл бұрын
Here is a great 9min documentary on Verruckt, its development and tragedy. Incredibly well produced video that includes tons of foreshadowing dialogue. You know it’s scary when after a test they say “good one!” even though rides should perform consistently. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52slJihhLmCp8k
@jemmapellemma8185
@jemmapellemma8185 3 жыл бұрын
​@@eriklakeland3857 Thank you, that doc wastes no time being terrifying. It's simultaneously baffling, heartbreaking, and infuriating how they acted around the test track. Didn't expect it to be quite that graphic though, so proceed with caution everyone. D:
@eriklakeland3857
@eriklakeland3857 3 жыл бұрын
@@jemmapellemma8185 genuinely sorry for the lack of warning, should’ve known better as those images definitely unsettled me
@uzijn
@uzijn 3 жыл бұрын
@@eriklakeland3857 Are the images of blood or anything else gruesome? If not, what are the pictures of?
@saccharide
@saccharide 3 жыл бұрын
Trains can also derail when it runs past the end of it. I remember testing custom powered launch coasters as a kid. I would slowly up the launch speeds as high as it could without crashing during test mode just to have it crash when loaded with heavy guests. That must be the first time I realized guests make the coaster faster. Great video on these more challenging ride types!
@sdmagician76
@sdmagician76 Жыл бұрын
Also subsequent trains can have different varieties of guests on them, so they can be heavier and go even faster. So even if you test it once with guests and it doesn't quite fly off the tracks and you think it's fine and open it up, train 37 can be heavier and fly off and crash.
@tommyboy716
@tommyboy716 3 жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, new Marcel Vos video just dropped.
@aturchomicz821
@aturchomicz821 3 жыл бұрын
god...
@Starius65
@Starius65 3 жыл бұрын
*replaces fast hills with tunnels* Guest's neck: BROKEN Guest: 🙃👍
@aledandrian
@aledandrian 3 жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: many peeps were harmed during the making of this video
@johnfoltz8183
@johnfoltz8183 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile you were awarded a safest park award for your park.
@michaeldanese6312
@michaeldanese6312 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video breaking down crashes more generally - under what circumstances rides crash, how the penalty to park rating works in the days and months following a crash, how a crash affects guests' willingness to ride a ride which has recently crashed, and (most importantly) how to prevent crashes. When I was younger I would never make rollercoasters with more than one train because I was afraid of the dreaded Station Brakes Failure, but obviously that severely limits throughput. Keep the great videos coming!
@Raptoria
@Raptoria 3 жыл бұрын
May these videos never end.
@Robin_Dragunov
@Robin_Dragunov 3 жыл бұрын
"Hello everyone.." *LEGENDARY VOICE*
@justsomeone89
@justsomeone89 3 жыл бұрын
LEGENDARY VOICE WITH DUTCH ACCENT ;)
@nameless5413
@nameless5413 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't you absolutely hate it when you build a bobsled coaster and it crashes because it takes a hill at too high a speed? If there are any guests in the train they will all perish which creates alot of annoying paperwork and also potential losses. you just don't want to deal with that." i'd use soundbite of Spiffing Brit's "unless you do" this is very reminiscent of the kind of intro he'd do, great sense of humor from both creators offcourse. Glad to see at least something i can look at whilst analyzing my latest massacre that was entirely "accidental" (because it was designed that way and i cant test ride with ghosts - crash even in tests mean scrap and start again).
@TechnicalJump
@TechnicalJump 3 жыл бұрын
(1:17) These are not the only pieces, also when you make a level to steap piece (or the other way arround) with a BANKING, it will also happen.
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos 3 жыл бұрын
I guess there is always something I forget in a video. The speed limits for those pieces appear to be the same as for the unbanked pieces, so I hope that people will assume that it does include banking.
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 3 жыл бұрын
username checks out
@BirchMonkey857
@BirchMonkey857 Жыл бұрын
RCT3 had this problem with waterslides. Can't remember which of the scenarios it was, but I had to tunnel like half the turns to make it work, which interrupted their view of the mountain they were sliding down. I was super proud of that design, too, because I spent like 3 days of computer time making it look good (ofc this was when I was a kid). Also I made a "testing" coaster that just went off the rails right into the most crowded path of the park. Guests didn't seem to mind, though.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 3 жыл бұрын
I remember playing Razor Rocks many many years ago and building an awesome Wooden Reverser Coaster. It worked quite well for months on end, until one day I heard the explosion and the message saying it had crashed. I was wondering how that happened and it turns out that just the right combination of guests and their weight had made it so the train would derail at a slope near the end. So I had to alter the track slightly higher which in turn involved changing how the ending went and it lost a few points of excitement in the process but at least it wouldn't derail ever again. So yeah, lesson learned. Always make the slope one height unit higher than you think you need.
@Silvarret
@Silvarret 3 жыл бұрын
As a Planet Coaster player, I have no idea what "derailing" means.
@AdrianDX
@AdrianDX 3 жыл бұрын
Hold on. PC doesn’t have derailing?😨
@calvinrovinescu6166
@calvinrovinescu6166 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianDX it does if you run out of money and don’t finish the track. But it also ballasts the rides when you test them like in real so you know how it behaves with a load
@wxl2562
@wxl2562 3 жыл бұрын
@@mugrides6177 I don't even think it does tbh. In the standard version of Planet Coaster, if you don't finish a track you can still run it. But you typically have to test coasters before opening them unlike RCT. But if a coaster flys off the unfinished track or two cars crash into one another, it won't let you open the ride. Now there are different guest "sizes" in the game, you have some guests that look larger, you got your "thick" moms and dads, chunky lil brats, but I don't think this effects anything. Guests appearances don't seem to have weight variable on coasters or rides. Like how there isn't a "gluttony" variable with larger guests - as offensive as it sounds, It'd make sense if larger guests were more prone to purchasing multiple food/drink items and constantly being hungry. Lmao.. But basically no derailing or anything in Planet Coaster even if you have a car full of 'larger' guests on a coaster going 1000mph through a mountain making a deep dive and sharp turn.
@WackoMcGoose
@WackoMcGoose 3 жыл бұрын
As a SimThemePark/Theme Park World player, neither do I. Heck, the rides work even if the track literally flies through anything other than itself - terrain, shops, other rides, etc, it only does collision checks against its own track.
@calvinrovinescu6166
@calvinrovinescu6166 3 жыл бұрын
@@mugrides6177 makes sense but at the same time the point is that as much as I love and have loved RCT2 that’s something that always frustrated me. If PC doesn’t bother to really simulate the ride empty I’d rather that if I can properly test it before using it. If engineers are testing a ride they will do so under the conditions it operates in which includes a full load up to it’s designed capacity as well as possibly empty as well. This video shows partly why in some cases although there are also many other reasons why they ballast for tests and examples of people getting killed when they haven’t done such properly
@toainsully
@toainsully 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about the tunnel pieces in Dinghy Slides is that people can hit themselves over the head when riding the slide
@HazardSJ
@HazardSJ 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there's actually a mod that simulates your introduction: having to sign paperwork on criminal/accidental negligience on your rides resulting in derailing and death, as well as having a short segment where you appear in court to try and defend yourself from the maximum penalty. I know it was a joke, but honestly, it would make the game more tense in a strange way, like an unexpected random challenge.
@zehuali2930
@zehuali2930 3 жыл бұрын
It's really glade to see so many people are still playing this game. I just picked up this game several weeks ago, and want to Learn how to do it for real, cause I never tried to build a good park when I was a kid. I’ve learned so many things from this channel, thank you. This game really deserve a remaster, even now I am still shocked by the details in this game.
@brian67oq
@brian67oq 3 жыл бұрын
I used to be afraid that a bobsled coaster on a banked track would slip and fall off if it was going too slow. It never happened of course but I always made sure to get a bit of speed before doing a banked section.
@pottis2497
@pottis2497 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why my coasters which turned corners fine in test mode would randomly derail months after their completion, I never thought the guest weight would be enough to make it go over that threshold, thanks!
@tjoeker680
@tjoeker680 3 жыл бұрын
oh snap, didn't know the curves didn't matter. (especially on the bobsleds and dingby)
@Tchesco625
@Tchesco625 3 жыл бұрын
"Yeah, you got severe neck trauma but at least you're not dead."
@Chris-cj5rh
@Chris-cj5rh 3 жыл бұрын
I need more Marcel Vos videos in my life! Can you do a video about the economy of shops and stalls? How many should I have in my park, how far away from one another, what prices, etc
@thekingoffailure9967
@thekingoffailure9967 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I always wondered if putting extra effort into changing default prices was worth it or if my time would be better spent making more rides
@michaelclements5793
@michaelclements5793 3 жыл бұрын
I'll add my voice to this request. Also whether any of them are better or worse than others in any way? (For instance I'm pretty sure coffee gives the guests an energy boost.)
@Chris-cj5rh
@Chris-cj5rh 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelclements5793 that would be really good to know!
@UnknownFlyingPancake
@UnknownFlyingPancake 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly the owners of Verruct thought applying game logic to real life was a great idea.
@Ironsharp
@Ironsharp 3 жыл бұрын
According to RCT2 Verruct was going something like four times the speed limit for derailing when it reached top speed.
@katzea.a7880
@katzea.a7880 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ironsharp That ride was so shit a game from 1999 could be used as a coaster calculator that it was indeed unsafe, good riddance
@FlishonyanKing
@FlishonyanKing 3 жыл бұрын
Very happy to see you making content again. One of my favorite channels.
@MaxArceus
@MaxArceus 3 жыл бұрын
He's been making content twice a week for over half a year now :o On twitch
@FolgoreCZ
@FolgoreCZ 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, any coaster can also derail on open end of the tracks, but it is obviously so obvious, that I understand why you didn't mention it. I remember how little 10-or-so old me found out that the trains with guest are faster than the empty ones. I built the classic design for accelerated launch mode: station->looping->hill. I made the hill only long enough so the test train would go to the very end of the tracks. Then I opened the ride for guests.
@Jermeister06
@Jermeister06 3 жыл бұрын
Was I the only person who initially thought derailing trains was gonna be a video about derailing monorails and the trains in game not the other normal rides... anyways great video as always :)
@samueldionne9675
@samueldionne9675 3 жыл бұрын
This just reminded me of the weirdest bug I encountered when I played RCT1. I was playing the Aqua Park campaign and for whatever reason after a certain time the big dingy slide in the park would start crashing with the dingies suddenly falling through the slide at a particular steep drop. Just replacing the spot that had issues did nothing (doing a test run had the dingies still fall through), so I got very good at rebuilding that exact dingy slide layout. Once rebuilt it was fine until enough time went by and it started crashing again at the same spot. It was the weirdest thing.
@dakat5131
@dakat5131 3 жыл бұрын
There's a scenario where after some time, one of the coasters that came with the park will enter the station and explode. Wonder if the coasters get slightly faster over time, or if it's a bug or something. It works fine every time before and after that incident.
@LaserBread
@LaserBread 2 жыл бұрын
@@dakat5131 I know the one you're talking about, it's "Claustrophobia" in Diamond Heights. That is intentional behavior in the game. It happens when the ride has the "brakes failure" breakdown.
@NPC1921
@NPC1921 3 жыл бұрын
Marcel: Explaining how physics and faulty designs lead to casualties, plus how to prevent them Me: Ha ha ha roller coaster go boooom
@jenniferberg7979
@jenniferberg7979 3 жыл бұрын
Loved your interview on the roller coaster tycoon documentary! Just watched it a couple days ago
@kase9165
@kase9165 3 жыл бұрын
From which channel?
@jenniferberg7979
@jenniferberg7979 3 жыл бұрын
@@kase9165 Noclip - Video Game Documentaries kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqSXc3dudtZ3b8k
@ThunderbolttheFox
@ThunderbolttheFox 3 жыл бұрын
I just came here to get nostalgic over all the times I intentionally made unsafe coasters so I could watch guest-filled cars explode
@onatamana3362
@onatamana3362 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this video makes me want to make a challenge park with only the most difficult and dangerous rides to build.
@DoomieGruntVentures
@DoomieGruntVentures 3 жыл бұрын
A ride overview on the Dinghy slide would be pretty nice. Always a popular 'coaster' among guests if you do it properly.
@gamerageandhobbyrcdu
@gamerageandhobbyrcdu 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t get sued if I invite there lawyers to my mini golf course
@bluetenit695
@bluetenit695 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I don't even play or watch Rollercoaster Tycoon, but I was recommended it by KZbin, watched it, and still enjoyed it.
@keksul
@keksul 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please make an explained video on why Marcel Vos is one of the most loveable wholesome youtube channels???
@alexisauld7781
@alexisauld7781 3 жыл бұрын
"Our Dinghy's flying off the track, how shall we fix it?" "Put a roof on it so the guests smash their skulls open instead!" "Genius!"
@expendableround6186
@expendableround6186 3 жыл бұрын
There IS a third method of derailing: Power-Launching a merry-go-round.
@youtubecritic8420
@youtubecritic8420 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to your for appealing to both your American audiences and your outside America audience with the speed conversions.
@whomgod420
@whomgod420 3 жыл бұрын
Rubber boats actually contain trace amounts of explosives apparently, and are more than happy to burst into flames upon landing in water.
@HeliosExeunt
@HeliosExeunt 3 жыл бұрын
Fun note - 4:34 is "patched" in RCT3, and if your train goes fast enough through a banked S-bend, it can even fly off the *inside* of a banked turn. Learned that while testing an RCT2 import with low friction enabled.
@nthgth
@nthgth 3 жыл бұрын
4:16 I'm pretty sure that happened IRL at a water park somewhere in the US once
@tg92277
@tg92277 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you included the Ghost Train. It really made me jump when I played Rct1 as a kid.
@musical_daredevil
@musical_daredevil 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I used to be afraid to build those types of rides due to the risk of crashing, but now I know exactly what I need to do.
@lorrdy7640
@lorrdy7640 3 жыл бұрын
3:10 "Or is it?" *Vsauce Music*
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind 3 жыл бұрын
I loved seeing you feature in the documentary from Noclip!
@azuredragonofnether5433
@azuredragonofnether5433 3 жыл бұрын
4:23 Marcel: "It's probably best not to think about it too much..." Me: (Think about it too much)
@electrollama2127
@electrollama2127 2 жыл бұрын
Another tip is to use trim breaks to make the speed more consistent with different guest weights. Look at the speed on a section of straight track during testing (no guests), then place a break less than or equal to that speed. In terms of G forces, the train flies off the track when it reaches -1.0G vertical. I try not to pass -0.5G when testing.
@blueberry1c2
@blueberry1c2 3 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me that my bobsleds cannot do a SICK GAINER OVER A FIRE PIT? Preposterous!
@theclaudeqc3rdone290
@theclaudeqc3rdone290 3 жыл бұрын
Except if you change the track type to a dignly and put O-tubes, it's working, I did it on a side-friction
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 3 жыл бұрын
the most annoying thing is actually the side-friction coaster. because it's impossible use "steep slope up" without the train flying off the track.
@urfriendcharles
@urfriendcharles 3 жыл бұрын
I needed this video! I had a coaster yesterday tested three times without a hitch soon as I opened it up 10 guest die. Thanks for the explanation
@DaniRadioCat
@DaniRadioCat 3 жыл бұрын
Heh, when I was a kid I used to think the Virginia Reel could also fly off the track like the side friction coasters or the dinghy slides... pretty common misconception IME
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you're definitely not the only one who had that misconception. Even though I did know it I tested the Virginia Reel for this video just in case it could actually derail.
@MrFlightdeckfan
@MrFlightdeckfan 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarcelVos You would think that Chris Sawyer thought about the Virginia reel flying off the track but then he was like nah, isn't too realistic. I think what kept it from flying off, is they are heavier than side friction cars, look at Blackpool old Reel for example.
@FrameRater
@FrameRater 3 жыл бұрын
4:35 I know when I was younger I made the Bobsled chainlift up and then spiral downwards as far as it would let me. Just a dumb childhood experiment. It crashed about halfway down. I'm not sure if that counts as a turning crash, but at least in that case it is possible.
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos 3 жыл бұрын
I just did a test and had a bobsled coaster take a helix tower at over 200 km/h and it didn't crash. Either it crashed become of something else or you're misremembering.
@ItoeKobayashi
@ItoeKobayashi Жыл бұрын
I always thought the derailment was random! Thanks for clearing that up!
@RagnarokiaNG
@RagnarokiaNG 3 жыл бұрын
I think when I was making some sidefriction coasters the best use of a steep hill I had was to use a single piece drop for some early speed, but even then I recalled having issues.
@matthewconley7568
@matthewconley7568 3 жыл бұрын
0:15 - Alright you had me at that one!
@Liam_Tomhet
@Liam_Tomhet 2 жыл бұрын
I just love how a rubber dingy just explodes a fiery death on water .
@MN-yb8un
@MN-yb8un 3 жыл бұрын
I love it, that you still find quality topics
@Cryster99
@Cryster99 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good accumulation of info you’ve mentioned in other places. Great vid as always marcel
@feralcyborggaming1531
@feralcyborggaming1531 Жыл бұрын
I like your videos because I learn things I never knew in the decade and some change that I've played these games. Didn't know bobsleighs don't crash on turns or that tunnels prevent the dinghy from crashing. Very useful information I could have used years ago 😅
@DJ4x
@DJ4x 3 жыл бұрын
I've made some truly amazing (and really long!) water slides using that tunnel piece trick. Highly recommend it if you want to pull off some wicked dinghy slides like the ones Marcel put in the video.
@nicksteele5613
@nicksteele5613 3 жыл бұрын
love that having guests in dingy boats slam their skulls into the top of a tunnel is a perfectly acceptable alternative to them flying off
@TiaKatt
@TiaKatt 3 жыл бұрын
The Verruckt philosophy of ride design :(
@johnlewisbrooks
@johnlewisbrooks 3 жыл бұрын
This dude has the PERFECT voice for educational style video's. He has just the perfect twang to his voice that lets you know he's from a foreign country without making him sound arrogant.
@stumpy990
@stumpy990 3 жыл бұрын
I love that guest bash their heads on the dingy slide tunnels
@BigBrotherMateyka
@BigBrotherMateyka 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a man of simple tastes: I see a Marcel Vos video, I click the 'Like' button.
@Niscimble
@Niscimble 3 жыл бұрын
4:04 can you imagine how hard this person is bonking their head on the roof of the ride
@unnameduser1994
@unnameduser1994 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Marcel, thank you for this video! I have a remark regarding what you say at 5:37. While it's true what you say (i.e., that crashes in test-mode have no effect on the ride or park rating), it does have an effect on what peeps *think* of the ride (temporarily) even though you never opened it before. Happened to me with the current version of RCT2 when testing a Launched Free Fall Tower. After my crashed test, I saw peeps thinking that it's not safe to ride that ride. Maybe this also was a bug or coincedence. Should be easy to test though. 🙂
@CrazyChemistPL
@CrazyChemistPL Жыл бұрын
I'm quite certain I got the Bobsleigh Coaster to derail in a turn in RCT1. Or maybe it was indeed an upslope after the turn, but anyway, it resulted in each car being ejected in a different direction, so that may be what makes it feel like it is the turn that does it.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 3 жыл бұрын
3:39 - I always imagined the dinghies flying up and having the guests get their head knocked into the top of the tunnel, and if so it certainly does have a more impactful effect. 😀 ...I'll get my coat. 4:17 - Oh, that was already the joke. Me and my coat are staying then.
@medicindisquise4271
@medicindisquise4271 3 жыл бұрын
so prevent guest death by giving them concussions via tunnel roofs. got it
@FrozenSpector
@FrozenSpector 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Marcel Vos, I enjoyed your segment in NoClip’s recent video on RCT’s classic game status! Keep up the great and fun work! Side Note: I for one would appreciate an updated install tutorial for OpenRCT2 on Linux if you have the time for a video. I just got mine working, but it was very difficult for a new Linux user like me. I haven’t found a good tutorial for a newbie yet, so it might prove useful for the audience here and beyond.
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos 3 жыл бұрын
I would totally create such a guide if I had any idea about how it works on Linux.
@Spacek531
@Spacek531 3 жыл бұрын
The way the game sets the limits is by vertical G-force. The game has two thresholds for derailing: -0.4G and -0.45G. The bobsled and side friction coaster have the -0.45G threshold - I am not sure which ones have the -0.4G threshold.
@c.i.n.b4710
@c.i.n.b4710 2 жыл бұрын
fun fact: the reason why the ghost train / haunted mansion ride derails at turns is because it is a glorified slot car
@zacharyloucks7697
@zacharyloucks7697 3 жыл бұрын
In RCT1, I recall the Bobsleigh coaster detailing on turns. I remember building a bobsleigh coaster on Razor Rocks, and towards the end of the ride, it was going well over 40mph, and it flew off the track. This might have been changed in RCT2.
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos 3 жыл бұрын
I just did a test in RCT1 and had a bobsled coaster take small turns at 90 km/h and helixes at up to 70 km/h and it was fine both times. I think you, like everyone else, is misremebering.
@JCBro-yg8vd
@JCBro-yg8vd 3 жыл бұрын
It might just be RNG luck on that sort of thing.
@zootycoon45
@zootycoon45 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know how many trains you had on that coaster. But maybe it was a station brakes failure, and it just crashed into an other train?
@MrFlightdeckfan
@MrFlightdeckfan 3 жыл бұрын
Basing on what you said, this sounds like you placed a drop after the station. When the bobsled coaster had a brake failure, the train flew off the drop like the station was never existing.
@Jalmaan
@Jalmaan 3 жыл бұрын
They told me to add airtime to my coasters. So I did, and now they are mad.
@chrisgoodly4953
@chrisgoodly4953 3 жыл бұрын
the amount of guests i have lost on a ghost train...RIP
@creativeanarchy1
@creativeanarchy1 3 жыл бұрын
Dingy slide was nice to know about and I didn't know bobsled won't derail in curves, over all the info was interesting, but with the exception of the Ghost Ride, I really hate those tracks and never actually used them so I didn't know much about them anyway because they were a pain to build just right to not crash and just wasn't worth the time to fool with. I may use a dingy now for fun, but probably not.
@JosephVE3GKT
@JosephVE3GKT 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Marcel! I found your channel recently and have really been enjoying it! Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge.
@timothyverbist5795
@timothyverbist5795 2 жыл бұрын
0:40 Side-Friction got yeeted!
@thothtrismegistus4865
@thothtrismegistus4865 2 жыл бұрын
I will come out and say it. I personally love the Side Friction Coaster and the Reverser only because I've used it to make looping designs and used the Wooden Rollercoaster track and the Mine Train Coaster track which looks a lot better but it'll still derail if it goes to fast over a hill. But I will have to agree that the Bobsled Coaster and even the Dinghy Slide has a much better track selection. Still though I do love me a good-ole vintage Wooden Side Friction and Reverse Coaster.
@JasonPullara
@JasonPullara 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yeah, I remember building a dinghy slide that kep killing people, so I put a tunnel on one and renamed it to "Concussion Killer" - it was my most popular ride.
@MrGhosta5
@MrGhosta5 Жыл бұрын
The bobsleigh is my most hated coaster type because all of it's different vehicle types have much different masses so a track design that works with the very heavy bobsleigh cars won't work with the much lighter penguin cars.
@nottud
@nottud 3 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to do a video on how the game calculates for a guest whether they think a ride is unsafe - it will be nice to know how long it lasts, and what proportion of guests it affects overall. Does it decrease over time? What crash conditions trigger it? Is it worse if guests are killed in the crash? Does altering parts of the coaster have an effect?
@Spacecoke
@Spacecoke Ай бұрын
I like the parts where you test the safe ride with no guests and the derailing rides with guests.
@-DeScruff
@-DeScruff 3 жыл бұрын
The fast turn derailing only affects 2 coasters? Weird I feel like as a kid I saw that more often, but I am probably mistaken. Still, Thanks for the awesome and helpful video!
@reillywalker195
@reillywalker195 3 жыл бұрын
Not even roller coasters but gentle rides.
@DarkstarArchangel
@DarkstarArchangel 3 жыл бұрын
OMG MARCEL, I was just thinking about "I wonder if Marcel will make a crashing-coaster explained video" a few days before you made it.
@AceAviations2
@AceAviations2 3 жыл бұрын
I've always tried to keep my Side-Friction and Reverser coasters cresting hills at around 20 MPH. This worried me when my first OpenRCT2 Side-Friction coaster which used two steep drops,thankfully it never crashed. I guess that I was a bit too conservative when it came to that.
@YankeeCherokee
@YankeeCherokee 3 жыл бұрын
A great video as always! I love your videos and style. Put some cards in the top right and in the description to 6our other videos that go more in depth of what you talk about. Help people find more of your videos!
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