How does the Park Rating in RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 work?

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Marcel Vos

Marcel Vos

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@AgeofNoob
@AgeofNoob Жыл бұрын
A 20+ minute video of Marcel explaining an RC2 game mechanic? Yes, please.
@LynnWinx
@LynnWinx Жыл бұрын
And I've never played RCT2, only 3 and Parkitect. Why have I been here for years?
@BigBrotherMateyka
@BigBrotherMateyka Жыл бұрын
GET THE POPCORN
@AlryFireBlade
@AlryFireBlade Жыл бұрын
@@LynnWinx because deep in your hearth you know that RCT2 is the best, even when your brain tells you otherwise? :D
@LynnWinx
@LynnWinx Жыл бұрын
@@AlryFireBlade > Nah, I just like the scientific approach, the optimization. RCT2's systems are big enough to be interesting and small enough to be thoroughly understood. It makes my ADHD and math/physics addiction happy.
@AgeofNoob
@AgeofNoob Жыл бұрын
@@LynnWinx There are many viewers on my channel (and SOTL's specifically) who have stopped playing Age of Empires many years ago. People return back to quality content of quality games. :)
@RCPlanes59
@RCPlanes59 Жыл бұрын
Marcel casually killing 36,000 guests in a 5-second cutaway has to be some kind of record
@MaartenvanHeek
@MaartenvanHeek Жыл бұрын
I wonder what the population of Monaco did to him...
@nathanstanier7625
@nathanstanier7625 Жыл бұрын
The lowest number of kills Marcel has ever achieved in a scenario?
@davidromeroblaya7920
@davidromeroblaya7920 Жыл бұрын
Oh, the humanity!
@Mattoropael
@Mattoropael Жыл бұрын
@@MaartenvanHeek My guess is Marcel works for a non-French tax agency 😂
@Krazylegz42
@Krazylegz42 Жыл бұрын
The production value on this is so good. All the B-roll footage you made just for cleanly showing text looks incredible. Just had to acknowledge how high effort this is, it looks great!
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos Жыл бұрын
This video took a long time to edit, and it's nice to know it's being appreciated. One thing I'll say is that I didn't build any of the parks next to the text specifically for this video, but rather looked through save files to find places that had the right combinations of rides and emptiness and often removed some trees that would be behind the text.
@stickit2theman1
@stickit2theman1 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcelVos I honestly really appreciate that particular attention to detail because I can mentally prepare for the exact amount of information that's about to come ahead of time.
@everythingsalright1121
@everythingsalright1121 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcelVos it makes it way more engaging to watch when i dont need to struggle to read the text or pause cause its hard to
@b0bsaget007
@b0bsaget007 Жыл бұрын
I know that the thumbnail uses 42,069 guests, but I personally find 69,420 guests more aesthetically pleasing. Regardless, thanks for the great content as always!
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you cannot get to 69420 guests in OpenRCT2 as 65136 is the maximum.
@b0bsaget007
@b0bsaget007 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcelVos I figured that there would be a limit
@GrayBlood1331
@GrayBlood1331 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcelVos Not sure if joking...
@SVD_NL
@SVD_NL 10 ай бұрын
​@@GrayBlood1331 likely not. 65536 is the maximum value that can be represented by a 16-bit unsigned integer. I dont know exactly why they dont use the last 400, i would guess safety margin to prevent overflow when adding guests (rolling back to 0 after going over the limit), but that's just a guess.
@archtansterpg4246
@archtansterpg4246 9 ай бұрын
​@@SVD_NL i think it might have to do with the sprite limit, as other park components may make up the remaining sprites.
@frtzkng
@frtzkng Жыл бұрын
Unhappy guests also *cannot* become vandals if: - there are no path objects available to destroy, or all nearby path objects already have been destroyed - if their Energy bar is very low. They'll become tired instead, which overwrites all other flags regardless of happiness.
@everythingsalright1121
@everythingsalright1121 Жыл бұрын
When hungy, too tired to knock sign over
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 Жыл бұрын
Lack of infrastructure and a demoralized public are key to preventing crime.
@NoisyBones
@NoisyBones Жыл бұрын
This channel is so relaxing, I suffer from anxiety, especially at night, and this is one of the channels I love watching to help calm down
@squishybrick
@squishybrick Жыл бұрын
I just had an idea for a very unique park challenge sort of. It's a large map, but a section of it, like a whole 1/4 of the map, already has a park on it, but you are not allowed to mess with anything on it, as it acts like a "neighboring park". All the rides on it never break down and are modded to have no operating costs, and everything in it is free. All the guests initially visit this park first from the entrance, but there is a transport ride that takes them to an open section where you are allowed to start building a park, and guests can only leave via a second transport ride that takes them back to that first park through a one-way path, but the second ride is out in the middle of nowhere, and you have to bridge the gap to allow them to use it to leave, both figuring out how to funnel them through towards it, but also supply some extra rides and amenities to keep them happy along the way.
@RadioactiveSherbet
@RadioactiveSherbet Жыл бұрын
I'm going to go ahead and bump this one. I like your idea!
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 11 ай бұрын
I love this idea too!
@Shredster7
@Shredster7 Жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how much fun Marcel had setting up the visuals at 9:50.
@slopehoke1277
@slopehoke1277 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame the maximum park rating with 0 guests is only 500. I'd love to see someone cook up a scenario where you have to achieve a certain park rating without any guests.
@arbitratedshan2783
@arbitratedshan2783 4 ай бұрын
We love that, ultimately, the best way to keep your park rating high is to run your park in a very reasonable way. You have handymen to keep it clean, mechanics to keep the rides working, entertainers for the guests, and plenty of rides of different types.
@AsymptoteInverse
@AsymptoteInverse Жыл бұрын
I played this game a *lot* as a kid, without ever knowing about the no-entry sign. I only learned about it from these videos. It's a small thing, but it's remarkable just how much better a park can function when they're used properly.
@DarkWarchieff
@DarkWarchieff Жыл бұрын
Idea: make an absurdly long path leading from guest spawn to park entrance, like hundreds or thousands of years for the spawned guest to reach the park. Guest delay could be used for some really evil ideas.
@RagnarokiaNG
@RagnarokiaNG Жыл бұрын
True evil is making a free ride's exit only lead to other expensive rides the guests have no option but to take to escape.
@HISKILP
@HISKILP Жыл бұрын
sadly you cant do that, game will say "path to complex" or something (tried it few month ago in OpenRCT2)
@DarkWarchieff
@DarkWarchieff Жыл бұрын
@@HISKILP any idea what the max is?
@HISKILP
@HISKILP Жыл бұрын
@@DarkWarchieff nope sry :( I wanted to have a map where the entrance is in the middle of the park but I couldnt do it sadly (Map was like 256x256 big)
@nthgth
@nthgth Жыл бұрын
​@@HISKILPthat was a great idea though, to have them radiate out instead of have to make their way across
@nthgth
@nthgth Жыл бұрын
Another super interesting dive into the workings of this game. That great familiar feeling of "damn, Chris Sawyer really thought of everything!" Great editing too. Thanks Marcel.
@hngldr
@hngldr Жыл бұрын
3:50 - the grass growing during that timelapse was really nice for helping show how long it was - great video! Thanks a ton!!!
@stickit2theman1
@stickit2theman1 Жыл бұрын
You had wayyyy too much fun with naming the scenarios/rides/guest in all the examples 🤣 can't believe I got rick rolled watching Marcel Vos of all people
@SemiHypercube
@SemiHypercube Жыл бұрын
I had no idea Chris Sawyer made the park rating this intricate. Like I wonder why the penalty for drowning guests decays more quickly if a scenario doesn't use money, that feels so random
@reillywalker195
@reillywalker195 Жыл бұрын
It's not random. No-money scenarios were introduced in Loopy Landscapes, and they all had the requirement that you not let your park rating drop below 700. By making the casualty penalty decrease faster in scenarios without money, Chris Sawyer made those no-money scenarios more forgiving.
@nthgth
@nthgth Жыл бұрын
​@@reillywalker195so it was just simplest to make the penalty decay faster based on the money/no money switch? Rather than based on the scenario itself or the strict park rating rule
@BigBrotherMateyka
@BigBrotherMateyka Жыл бұрын
The more this game is discovered and the code exploited, the more you realize how much of a complete genius Chris Sawyer was. And his creative team was no exception either.
@reillywalker195
@reillywalker195 Жыл бұрын
@@nthgth In RCT1, only scenarios without money required keeping a park rating of 700 or higher, so it didn't necessarily matter whether the game checked for money/no money or the 700 park rating rule since the effect would've been the same. In RCT2, I'm guessing Chris Sawyer did the same since scenarios with money and the 700 park rating rule still allow you to advertise to attract guests as well as choose your research speed and priorities, thus negating some of the downsides of requiring money.
@WackoMcGoose
@WackoMcGoose Жыл бұрын
My in-universe headcanon is that moneyless scenarios are when a park owner has _so much money already_ that "money is no object" to them, so offscreen they're just throwing wads of money at the media to quickly get rid of the negative press caused by a guest death.
@TheRealUncleScar
@TheRealUncleScar Жыл бұрын
so now we need a video of a perfect park with maxed out rating calculations across the board even if the total caps at 999
@Chewaai
@Chewaai Жыл бұрын
You've changed the way I play this game in the best kinds of ways, thank you :) (M'n man had van de week gezien dat ik meerdere tabbladen met je video's open had staan. Ik had net een scenario behaald en toen zat ik nog even na te genieten en toen kwam mijn man even meekijken. Ik vertelde over hoe grotere decoraties en 1x1 decoraties verschillende hoeveelheden waardering opbrengen, waarop hij meteen vroeg: "heb je dat geleerd van Marcel Vos?" en ik "ja.. ik zou 'm eigenlijk even moeten bedanken")
@PaulCashman
@PaulCashman Жыл бұрын
An easy way to figure out where your unhappy guests are is to click on the thought ("I can't find the park exit!" for example) and then use the map icon to see where the majority of those guests are highlighted. Chances are, they'll be in a complicated path section or stuck in a dead-end ride exit, etc.
@cvrtsaudio
@cvrtsaudio 24 күн бұрын
Yes most of my rct gameplay is opening thoughts and seeing where all the litter is or too crowded paths.
@dyacktman
@dyacktman Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making such a high-quality video! It explains things clearly, without wasting time, is information dense, has great editing, great visuals, and some fun easter eggs. Thank you for taking the time to make this and giving it so much attention to detail. This will be a great resource to refer people to when they ask about park rating.
@tristalia3113
@tristalia3113 Жыл бұрын
9:50 I know this RCT but this sudden type of precipitation had me laughing out loud for 2 seconds, haha
@jurgenpeters1373
@jurgenpeters1373 Жыл бұрын
2:32 You said "at least 128" but show "more than 128". Which is true? Is a Guest with a happines of 128 "happy" or not?
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos Жыл бұрын
The text on screen is correct.
@jurgenpeters1373
@jurgenpeters1373 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcelVos I cant believe marcels angelic voice lied to me ;(
@TheTdw2000
@TheTdw2000 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the infinite money parks have the shorter recovery time so that you can get back to normal circumstances faster so that you don't instantly fail them if enough guests die. Most of those scenarios involve never letting your park rating fall below x, and if you got a high enough penalty by accident it would be literally impossible to turn it around in time.
@voodootrois
@voodootrois Жыл бұрын
Can someone clarify if one can make a custom scenario in which there exists no money but has the standard "X Guests by Year Y with Rating 600" goal?
@asasnat342
@asasnat342 Жыл бұрын
@@voodootrois yes, there is no restriction for that, it just happens that most prebuilt no money scenarios have the minimum park rating goal
@Davtwan
@Davtwan Жыл бұрын
Moreover you can replace rides to remove it’s low popularity rating really quickly due to infinite money. Might as well let the guests “restore” faster too.
@TheTdw2000
@TheTdw2000 Жыл бұрын
@@voodootrois According to the wiki you can't in vanilla RCT2's scenario editor.
@polygondwanaland8390
@polygondwanaland8390 Жыл бұрын
Frankly if you murder hundreds of guests in one go it's totally fair your park is closed down 😂
@burritoman2k
@burritoman2k Жыл бұрын
Have you thought about doing a vid about guest thoughts and their effects? Like how a guest determines when they want to go home for instance
@1WolfFan
@1WolfFan Жыл бұрын
I vaguely recall going over these points before. But whether that's a Mendala Effect, a different video with similar points, or whether this is a more in-depth version of a previous video; I am very happy for the video. I don't USUALLY have problems with park value, but I do occasionally see those spikes you mentioned. So I'm sure it'll help in the long run. :)
@Vegalyp
@Vegalyp Жыл бұрын
Incredibly informative video Marcel. 10/10 Finally discovered my my park rating was so low. I was recreating the Titanic with my guests and sending them all to Davy Jones locker. Now I know I need to stop murdering them.
@Majima_Nowhere
@Majima_Nowhere Жыл бұрын
I don't and probably won't ever play RCT2. I tried it, it wasn't my thing. But for some reason I love game mechanic analyses so much that I watch every video you put out front to back.
@JCBro-yg8vd
@JCBro-yg8vd Жыл бұрын
Always cool to learn more about the inner workings of RCT2 and how to use them to your advantage.
@logitfau252
@logitfau252 Жыл бұрын
i have not played those games since release, but i love your videos, its just the passion and incredible complexity fans can find and create from thos rudimentary game structures ^.^ love it
@EventH0riz0n
@EventH0riz0n 6 ай бұрын
Shoutout to the 2 gigachad guests who survived the cleansing. 10:39
@siiiiiiiiiimo
@siiiiiiiiiimo 4 ай бұрын
Heroic effort. So fuckin funny you noticed that
@cll1out
@cll1out Жыл бұрын
Me and my gramps played this game a lot in the 2000s. He loved it and was really good at it. I got good as an adult with a reasonable business mindset.
@stevenstice6683
@stevenstice6683 Жыл бұрын
Something to point out gor the ride crashes: crashing speed is 30 mph (48 kmph) As long as your trains enter the station at 29 mph or lower (
@RaynmanPlays
@RaynmanPlays Жыл бұрын
Now I want to see a challenge where Marcel beats a scenario without letting his park rating get above a certain amount.
@jonnnnniej
@jonnnnniej Жыл бұрын
That sounds incredibly difficult.. But if someone could pull it off, it's Marcel!
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like he’ll need the penalizing power of casualties to help keep things reasonably low!
@Mental_Illboy
@Mental_Illboy Жыл бұрын
Because of you! Ga ik dit spel weer spelen komende winter om jeugdherinneringen op te doen😃
@AlryFireBlade
@AlryFireBlade Жыл бұрын
Well made video again, it is long as I like, but it is long, because you have so much details and eamples to show. So it isn't stretched for money reason, it just isn't stretched at all. So yeah I love the video :)
@RagsinatorMusic
@RagsinatorMusic Жыл бұрын
You are my favorite KZbinr, and by a LARGE margin.
@BabusGameRoom
@BabusGameRoom Жыл бұрын
Loved this deep dive into such an important mechanic. I'm surprised it isn't already one of your videos! At 12:00, you mention the ride popularity rating...have you done a video on this? It sounds like a mechanic I haven't heard of before...
@voodootrois
@voodootrois Жыл бұрын
4:10 That was very clever using the motion simulator as an example of a broken down ride. Those rides are clearly and unambiguously broken down. You could instead use Merry-go-rounds with a control failure, but they are unnecessarily obnoxious 😂
@fathertimejr
@fathertimejr Жыл бұрын
"And that's why your park rating shoots up by [500 or 200] when [the first guest enters / you place one ride]." 2 mindblowing moments there. Waste-less food stalls was another shocker.
@archtansterpg4246
@archtansterpg4246 Жыл бұрын
"Even if you drown the entire population of Monaco" Was not expecting that mental picture. 😂
@unnameduser1994
@unnameduser1994 Жыл бұрын
The following is more like a collection of ideos for possible future videos, there's no need to type out all the answers now in the comment section. 🙂 Great video, as always, very well structured! Now I do wonder how the breakdown- and repair mechanics work in the RCT games. Like, is there a random chance for a breakdown (and how high is this)? Why the 10 minute interval for mechanics? What happens (numerically) if I stay below/above it with (not) inspecting rides? How many mechanics does one need per x rides? All of those questions need to be answered in another video. :D Also, why does one have to reach 3.68 excitement and 5.20 intensity on average specifically, what is the underlying assumption regarding these averages? ... Oh, and of course, you mentioned a mechanic that's too complex to adress it fully in this video (just forgot what it was). Also something I would love to see in a video!
@raviormetal1653
@raviormetal1653 Жыл бұрын
Ive a question about the lost guests. Does the park map that peeps can buy at the information kiosk help with that? I just realized that I dont actually know what that map item does even though I played the game for such a long time in my childhood :D
@SheepUndefined
@SheepUndefined Жыл бұрын
1:27 I stg Marcell, I was looking down when you said that and thought you said something way different, lmao
@StormDragonZ
@StormDragonZ Жыл бұрын
19:34 is so satisfying. Now I'm curious, what's the largest explosion you can make?
@RadioactiveSherbet
@RadioactiveSherbet Жыл бұрын
17:03 Oh, God. A bit of a flashback to an unpleasant moment in my childhood gaming there with the angry red face. I remember getting scared and crying one time when I saw that as a kid. Even when I saw it just now, I had a bit of a fight-or-flight response. Man...
@kaiptan
@kaiptan Жыл бұрын
Thank you for continuing to make rct videos!
@johnfoltz8183
@johnfoltz8183 Жыл бұрын
Complete hard scenario: One broken bench: I’m about to end this scenario’s career.
@midlifecrisi
@midlifecrisi Жыл бұрын
Great video but you got a typo at 19:20 where you say "Only build *singe*-wide paths"
@adiemuller5422
@adiemuller5422 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea the ride uptime affected the park rating! That explains the scenarios where you start with an unsuccessful park with a bunch of old rides.
@Wh173c0c0
@Wh173c0c0 Жыл бұрын
@19:15 "You have to follow the park building rules, Marcel!" Marcel Barbossa: "They're really more like 'guidelines'."
@TS_Mind_Swept
@TS_Mind_Swept Жыл бұрын
I know it kills your park rating, but seeing all those trapped guests just stream out of your park is surprisingly enjoyable to watch
@Martsigras
@Martsigras 16 күн бұрын
maybe it was just me, but seeing the two balloons rising from where their owners drowned was so dark at 10:22
@TheOriginalJphyper
@TheOriginalJphyper Жыл бұрын
20:15 Speaking of brakes failure... I recently found out how roller coaster brakes work, and it is physically impossible for a roller coaster's brakes to fail in real life (even at the time the RCT games were made), so this breakdown makes no sense. They're configured so that, if a failure does occur, gravity forces the brakes into the activated position; it's completely failsafe. They can't wear out because the main brakes use magnetic induction with permanent magnets. The only way the brakes can fail is if the train or track section itself is wrecked, at which point, you have bigger problems to worry about.
@PhilipMurphy8Extra
@PhilipMurphy8Extra Жыл бұрын
Get the snacks as Marcel is explaining RCT folks.
@RobGoldy
@RobGoldy Жыл бұрын
Man I'm loving these videos. Any idea if you'd one day make similar content for Parkitect? I wish someone would break down that game as well as you break down RCT2
@JBond4334
@JBond4334 Жыл бұрын
Something I'd like to see a video on; The programming behind employee path finding algorithms
@matthewgladback8905
@matthewgladback8905 Жыл бұрын
20:30 Really appreciating those ride names.
@Gui101do
@Gui101do Жыл бұрын
Marcel Vos the Boss!
@emmata98
@emmata98 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see such in-debth stuff for other games (like planet coaster) and topics (like how the EIN stats are calculated)
@voodootrois
@voodootrois Жыл бұрын
If a train with no guests crashes, does it affect the Safest Park Award? Does the answer depend on whether or crashes in test mode or open/operating mode?
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I've gotten the safest park award while faffing about with empty crashing rides in test parks, but I'm not exactly sure how that works.
@kansasistheman9289
@kansasistheman9289 Жыл бұрын
My go to tactic to get a 999 rating was to fill almost every square with trees and other scenery. It was surprising to see that it isn’t included, so I guess it only helps by making people happy?
@WackoMcGoose
@WackoMcGoose Жыл бұрын
You know, now you got me wondering about pathfinding in RCT and how it compares to, say, Dwarf Fortress... In DF, entities calculate their entire path in one go, flood-fill searching _from the destination_ (walling off a workshop has less of a pathfinding impact than walling off a dwarf, and your tick rate will shit the bed if you uncover the Hidden Fun Stuff and wall it off before the Clowns can emerge) with per-tile pathfinding costs, then executing the resulting path if one is found, recalculating only if the decided path later ends up blocked. It's actually _recommended_ to have 2-3 tile wide main pathways in your fortress, because each tile can only have one entity "standing" in it at a time (all others must be laying down, so two cats can't both be standing in one tile, but 1 cat and 99 dragons can share a tile if all 99 dragons are laying down), so multi-tile pathways give additional movement options for entities to go around each other. But at the same time, _really big_ open areas (like if you mine out an entire z-level) are pathfinding traps, so you need to wall those off once you're done with them... Maybe RCT has it calculate only a few tiles of movement at a time? So a short exit path will easily be scanned as "okay, I can get out of here, and there's nothing else interesting down this", while a longer one is "huh, where's the rest of the park"...
@aw2740
@aw2740 Жыл бұрын
9:48 holy shit, this looks like a war zone rocket attack :')
@thelol1759
@thelol1759 Жыл бұрын
Oh sweet, love these deep dives!
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey Жыл бұрын
I don't get recommended your videos as much anymore. I think I got a little burnt out at one point so stopped watching your daily uploads, but you're still fantastic bro 😎 never change
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos Жыл бұрын
Daily uploads? The last time I uploaded more than twice a week is 4 years ago and I never uploaded daily.
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey Жыл бұрын
@@MarcelVos yikes, I'm going senile 😂
@Badface678
@Badface678 Жыл бұрын
Casually eliminates the population of Monoco, but it's okay by next month because your theme park has exciting rides and no litter.
@__8120
@__8120 Жыл бұрын
1:26 MADE BY WHO?
@digitalizedmind6784
@digitalizedmind6784 Жыл бұрын
love it when i put information kiosks basically everywhere, set all of them to give out free maps and I pay attention to the paths, guests STILL get lost in my parks
@Brunosky_Inc
@Brunosky_Inc Жыл бұрын
12:30 Extreme Kites and Extreme Tights. Ya thought we wouldn't notice!
@michaelmirisola5554
@michaelmirisola5554 22 күн бұрын
I would love to know how the game calculated breakdowns. Like how does the game decide when a ride should breakdown since we know the rain does not increase it. It just increases the station breaks failure occurring. I always found it hilarious when a ride breaks down while the mechanic is inspecting it. lol
@apoxpaito
@apoxpaito Жыл бұрын
20:29 Those are some interesting ride names...
@AiOinc1
@AiOinc1 Жыл бұрын
I imagine the logic is that the park rating can increase faster for a free park and rides rather than one you have to pay for. You're not going to pay for the opportunity to drown but you might do it for free
@nthgth
@nthgth Жыл бұрын
Haha
@thomasrinschler6783
@thomasrinschler6783 Жыл бұрын
I'm really intrigued at what exactly malfunctioned to cause that rain of coaster cars at 9:50.
@Jack_Rakan
@Jack_Rakan Жыл бұрын
Probably a launched coaster type (like the shuttle loop) with a really long train being allowed to shoot it's train cars into the void. It's one of the only designs that lets you start a coaster without having a complete track loop.
@Tahngarthor
@Tahngarthor Жыл бұрын
The average rating bonusees are there to encourage having a mix of thrilling and calm rides- to get the full bonus you will need some gentle rides to offset the high intensity super exciting rides.
@anonnymousperson
@anonnymousperson Жыл бұрын
Thank you Marcel!
@ZTRCTGuy
@ZTRCTGuy Жыл бұрын
If a train barely makes it in test mode when it's empty but still does you're totally fine (if not using block brakes), as an empty train is the minimum weight. During opening hours guests will make it heavier which will make it go faster, hence it will always make it. Dangerous things start happenning when you decide to shorten the train.
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos Жыл бұрын
That's not true. If there are only guests in the back then the train might not make it because the extra weight in the back is holding it back. Brakes (including station brakes) are also slightly inconsistent, so even an empty train might not make it the second time if it barely makes it the first time. The shot of the train not making it in this video is faked by decreasing the chainlift speed because it's quite a rare occurence, but just before that it did actually not make with the exact same settings as in the first shot where it does make it, but I wasn't recording. Here is an example of it happening on film: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZeYl5qJZd9qmbs
@ZTRCTGuy
@ZTRCTGuy Жыл бұрын
​@@MarcelVos I didn't know the game went this deep that it also mattered where the guests are in the train. I never heard that, does the game actually register where the guests are in the train? It really doesn't have a reason to go this deep... Isn't it the case that's it's ''merely'' an overall weight increase? Like you do with the console? About the inconsistent brakes, yeah that's true. Video suggestion might be, how does it work where people decide to sit in a train? Because they don't go from front to back, and how does it affect ride performance when only the front or back half of the train is filled. That would be very interesting imo.
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos Жыл бұрын
@@ZTRCTGuy If you use the vehicle editor plugin you can see that each vehicle of a train has an individual mass. Deurklink already made a video about how guests board: kzbin.info/www/bejne/haPPfZ6KYpearck
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch 8 ай бұрын
I find it funny how angry guests will vandalize stuff, but never decide to ignore the no entry signs
@Gremph
@Gremph Жыл бұрын
I like watching your videos and I don't even own RCT2 anymore.
@DarkWarchieff
@DarkWarchieff Жыл бұрын
is the ''600 minimum'' or ''700 minimum or lose'' value hardcoded? I always wanted to get a bit harder, like ''have x guests by y with a rating of 950''
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos Жыл бұрын
Currently that's hardcoded, but there's nothing stopping the OpenRCT2 devs from allowing you to change the park rating requirement in scenario creation.
@jabrowski_
@jabrowski_ Жыл бұрын
Marcel for world president
@solus8754
@solus8754 Жыл бұрын
Hey Marcel! Lovely vid as always! These park rating statistics makes me wonder if there could be some tweaks that allows for a.. so to speak "Kaizo" Rollercoaster, or just Hard Mode or something, making bad plays much more punishable. Who knows it might be a good challenge for you if such a mod exists? :P
@BinaryHedgehog1
@BinaryHedgehog1 Жыл бұрын
Harder guest generation sort of accomplishes this by making the soft guest cap tied more to longer coasters, but I presume you already knew that.
@markmedlinskas7356
@markmedlinskas7356 Жыл бұрын
Lol at the guest being named Deurklink
@benb9151
@benb9151 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Marcel memorized all this information and just turned his microphone on
@sosoishero
@sosoishero Жыл бұрын
Rick Rolled 3 seconds into the video. This is going to be a good one
@HeliosExeunt
@HeliosExeunt 6 ай бұрын
A guest with 128 happiness: "I am delighted. 😐"
@sigma5902
@sigma5902 Жыл бұрын
"There is no limit to how much lost guests can reduce the park rating" ...So, say for example if you got enough guests lost, would the integer underflow and max out the rating?
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos Жыл бұрын
Yes, you need just under 5000 lost guests for that. Doesn't work in OpenRCT2 anymore though.
@Hankathan
@Hankathan Жыл бұрын
20:30 Those are some fire ride names lol
@MarissaK319
@MarissaK319 Жыл бұрын
Wooh!🎉
@korg47237
@korg47237 Жыл бұрын
B0aty has been waiting for this vidya
@T-West
@T-West Жыл бұрын
Oh when I first saw "lost" guests I thought lost meant Marcel drowned them. But that has its own category. :)
@patrickgeurts4855
@patrickgeurts4855 Жыл бұрын
Do the park maps prevent guests from getting lost? Or just helps them go find rides and stalls?
@MarcelVos
@MarcelVos Жыл бұрын
WIth a map they can look more junctions ahead so they can find things better, but they can still become lost.
@HECKproductions
@HECKproductions Жыл бұрын
lets be honest every decent player constantly has 999 par value (until you accidentally not connect the exit of a ride with the main path and you have 600 people walk inside one another)
@Volteer
@Volteer Жыл бұрын
I have never played this game and don't really intend to but I can't get enough of watching these videos. It's so interesting!
@shortclips4023
@shortclips4023 Жыл бұрын
I was like you then I played the game for 1000 hrs and I still watch but don't play the game as much anymore,Marcel is a great narrator
@Redpoppy80
@Redpoppy80 7 ай бұрын
"and don't have a murder addiction". RCT2 has an uncanny ability to draw out the serial killer in all of us though.
@MarkFendy-sw7hn
@MarkFendy-sw7hn Жыл бұрын
Magic Quarters from RCT1 corkscrew follies at the beginning of the video!
@DitzyNizzy2009
@DitzyNizzy2009 Жыл бұрын
16:50 - If 14 food stalls don't create waste, does that mean there are some that don't give their customers napkins?
@KJsGotGame
@KJsGotGame 26 күн бұрын
I'm curious whether ride inspection actually does anything. I had a station brakes failure take out 28 guests one month before the scenario end date in RCT1. I checked and the last inspection was one minute prior. Naturally, I drowned the nearest mechanic. But I'm wondering if I just got really unlucky, or if the inspections don't actually matter that much.
@Tmccreight25Gaming
@Tmccreight25Gaming Жыл бұрын
I like how you had to put the correct spelling of Bassiiie on screen at 1:24
@stevenmorrison4692
@stevenmorrison4692 Жыл бұрын
I've had issues at multiple parks where the guests get stuck in an area and when you click on them they it says they were headed to a certain ride. The ride entrance is only 10 tiles away. I have to make another path leading to the ride entrance for them to find it. After awhile the park rating goes down some points until you build the path for them. Once the ride que starts getting riders the rating goes back up.
@arturodelagarza2251
@arturodelagarza2251 Жыл бұрын
i swear my dream is to have a 1 hour upload... but 20 minutes its good enough XD
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