DSLRs Forever - Photographer Luke Ayers on Why He Prefers DSLR Cameras to Mirrorless Cameras

[@sdhute]

Pentax is the only company who stated their path is only DSLR. They are sticking to what they do best.

[@quazisanjeed6395]

Perhaps Pentax would be the way to go for some CaNikon shooters shortly. Best wishes to Pentax.

[@Dan-jg7zl]

Vintage DSLRs are the next trend. Prices gonna skyrocket. Start buying now.

[@dbkfrogkaty1]

I shoot an old Pentax K-5II. With the battery grip attached it becomes a big chunky camera. My camera is also weather resistant. I think it could mess up a would be thief pretty well too!

[@stevemann6851]

yes and now they are going to make a NEW 35mm film camera AWESOME

[@miguelmonforte]

People are crazy with mirrorless.. and that is beneficial for us, dslr owners..

[@davidw.r.7801]

I bought my D4 last year and love it. A camera to last forever.

[@Solarsystem50]

I love my Pentax DSLR. Those photons of light hit the back of your retina directly. There is something priceless about it. Your brain process when manually focus... It is like chess vs checkers.

[@jasonsturek6510]

Had to choose last month between a D850 or moving on to the Z series . . . my D500 gave me 74,000 shots beyond its rating and I couldn't even be upset at it for dying . . . and I ended up opting for the D850 for many of the reasons you're stating. I'm sure my next camera will be a Z-something in 5-7 years but I have no regrets through the first 1,000 shots.

[@joekelly9369]

I dint like the eyepiece blacking out , and the camera dictating to me my images , lke using an instant camera

[@BeingWolfy]

I still have and love my Nikon D700. Great camera still despite being 12 years old or so.

[@macallanvintage]

Now THAT is a truly great DSLR

[@itsjim2875]

THE LEGEND! I love mine!

[@Caserz1986]

I just upgraded for video purposes and honestly, I want to cry. I’m so old school in everything i do and the transition to mirrorless has been painful. It has its advantages of course, but idk- my truck still has a cd player. 😂

[@robertmccutchan5450]

I have 6 DSLR's spanning about 20 years, some crop frame and some full frame, and they all still work great. As a matter of fact, sometimes don't remember which camera I used to take some of my pictures. I really see no need to upgrade to a new system when I can buy high-end dslr's and their lenses for a fraction of the cost of a new mirrorless and lenses to go with it. I just picked up a clean low-mileage 5D MkIII for stupid cheap, and photographed a wedding with it without a single issue. Win-win!

[@LukeAyers]

Awesome Rob!

[@yuqin405]

I just bought D3s and D4, along with my D500 and D850, and I probably never will upgrade to Z series of Nikon.

[@David_Quinn1995]

I thought I had a lot at 3, a Rebel XT, EOS Rebel T7, and a 5D ii

[@robertmccutchan5450]

One year later.......I still see no need to get rid of my DSLR's!! I added a 5D Mark IV to the line up. Got it refurbished for half the price of new, and the EF lenses just keep getting cheaper!

[@mondaesskik9676]

Let me ask then. Should i or should i NOT upgrade my canon 70D to a Canon M50 mark ii or a Canon R50?

[@LukeAyers]

Image-quality wise you will see no difference. But it's your choice whats more comfortable for your hands

[@chm3035]

Totally in agreement with your assessment of why shooting with a DSLR is way more engaging than with a mirrorless. It's akin to writing notes with pen and paper which is oddly more satisfying than using a laptop -- at least in my experience. Why that is so perhaps has something to do with haptics. Writing longhand a word, albeit more time consuming, seems to engage more of my brain than clinically typing the same word on a keyboard. Just as vinyls and CDs have staying power, DSLRs are here to stay.

[@LukeAyers]

Totally mate!

[@lukemcgregor6969]

Personally, I LOVE the reassuringly loud "CLICK!" of the shutter on my D850. Do you (CLICK!), take (CLICK!) , to be your lawfully wedded (CLICK! CLICK! CLICK!) .

[@LukeAyers]

Yes Luke!

[@smaturock]

Just a small correction, the D600 and the D4 came out about 10 years ago, not 20. And yeah, I still happily use my Canon DSLRs, a 5D MkII, which I bought last year to and a 1Ds MkII which I bought two years earlier.

[@kennypringle4580]

At this date in 10/2023 I’m still happy with my Nikon d500, d810 and d850. I have 18 lenses for these awesome cameras. I might go mirrorless one day, but it ain’t gonna be today, or tomorrow, or the next day. At age 70 I may retire and never go mirrorless, and I’m fine with that.

[@LukeAyers]

Go Kenny!

[@stevehutman8052]

Thank you for this.

[@derrenleepoole]

As someone who was adamant I would never own a DSLR, always assuming they weren’t right for me (for whatever reason), I recently picked up the Canon 5D Classic, and it’s been an absolute revelation and breath of fresh air. Superb image quality, great battery life, great adaptability with my older vintage lenses. What’s not to like. Got the bug now.

[@CoffeeConversationMusicGear]

I totally agree with you. I still use a Nikon D610 and D850 for my photography. I love them because they are made for endurance. Plus the lenses I have I have worked hard to get for my system and with simplicity they work and capture great quality detailed photos of what I see. DSLR’s are still pretty damn good 👍🏾!

[@bd048]

I shot from 1968 to 1998 with SLRs. After a mix of digital I went to DSLR. I do have some point and shoots but I still love the DSLR. I even have an affinity to SLRs in 6x6 where the image is reversed. I found that this very thing allowed me to still have a real world view but also allowed me to compose better. I shot video professionally from 1978-2010. You would think I might not care which one I use but I still like SLR/DSLR. I'm 71, just at old f***...

[@JohnR-fc7vr]

This is very well explained! I finally understand this preference now. Thanks a lot for explaining this.

[@djbelly4968]

i got a bunch of cameras, Sony A7R3, Nikon DF, but my Alltime Fav is Nikon D700 and now im looking for D3s or D4, nice video

[@itsjim2875]

Gotta love a D700!

[@colingerard7863]

I get stopped by people when I am out and about with my D700 and there is a slight pause after they have said "excuse me', and I know they are former owners. They are still grieving for this wonderful camera; they list their reasons for selling it, they say they are thinking about getting one again. However, you know they wont, you know they will continue their day recalling the good times and good pictures they took using it. The half arsed smile they give you as they go on their way can be haunting.

[@itsjim2875]

Thanks, Marc! - I absolutely agree with you. I much prefer OVF over EVF. I tried a couple, several times and just could not see any reason for them. I'll stick with my old Nikon DSLRs.

[@jeffsstamps]

Hi Luke - I am a wedding photographer and totally agree with you - I use the D750 - now buying the D780. Some may say it is a personal preference if you use mirrorless or DSLR - yes agree - however if that is the case then Nikon need to continue to give customers that choice and preference

[@LukeAyers]

Awesome. Yes!

[@rolandmg1]

I’m so pleased someone else feels the same as me. I hate these virtual view finders and it’s killing photography for me. Using an SLR makes it real and you feel part of the experience. The art of photography is dying and people are obsessed having the latest tech. I will keep working with my D3’s and D4S for years to come as they are fast and reliable and bombproof and I love the sound of the shutter.

[@quazisanjeed6395]

Spot on. 100% in agreement. I have a feeling, the toy lovers might soon get bored with their over-hyped tools and quietly return to cameras that work.

[@egb4828]

Not parting with with Pentax K-1. I am seriously considering dumping my Lumix S1 system, nothing wrong with it I just never bonded with it. Doesn't feel like an extension of what I see.

[@anta40]

"Using an SLR makes it real and you feel part of the experience." OK. I assume people who use rangefinders don't have real experience (whatever that means) :D :p

[@harryvuemedia]

How the fudge is the art of photography dying? Mirrorless have unlocked so much potential in cameras today that DSLR will never be able to do. You're basically like every other DSLR owners making up excuses to justify keeping ya DSLR. Mirrorless is the now and future of cameras because they simply removed that mirror. Had Sony not forced Canon and Nikon to go Mirrorless, we would still be playing with outdated DSLR technology right now. You can keep coming up with excuses to keep your DSLR but give credit to Mirrorless when its due.

[@joseqmeh101]

@@quazisanjeed6395 nobody have returned to blackberries right? even though they were useful and reliable for its time

[@chrispatmore8944]

Lag is more to do with the response of the shutter release system. As the old saying goes, “If you press the shutter release when you see the moment you already missed the shot” (unless you’re using ProCapture on an Olympus/OM System camera). It’s all about anticipation. Thankfully it’s not a general photography manifesto or law, but just Luke’s opinion and preference. I still use an SLR. I also mainly use a M4/3 mirrorless camera, and sometimes a “full frame” DSLR: whatever best suits the job or situation. Mostly it’s what I feel comfortable using. Hell, some people even love taking photos with their phones and are convinced they are the best cameras.

[@CdAnne-ps4kk]

Wow, that saying describes how I've felt after missing out on many moments 😅 Great food for thought

[@germanshepherdmom5411]

I think I agree with you. I have all Nikon mirrorless and only one DSLR, the Canon 5D Mark IV. I love that camera. I agree with you so much that I am subscribing!

[@Akuma_-eb5uv]

I was on the fence with a D810 vs a Z6ii and this beautiful love letter helped make me realize i love my DSLRs too. Thank you

[@LukeAyers]

Awesome!

[@brookfabling]

I have just gone back to dslr s because of the ovf two Nikon d 750s hope they should last awhile.

[@acousticwaves]

YESSSSSSS!!! Finally someone has said it out loud for internet to hear and see🥳 DSLR forever🗣️

[@vangmx]

I used to work in a camera shop back in college. My first DSLR was a D70 back in 2005. Beautiful camera for its time. Also, my wife knew I was lusting for full frame years later so she got a D800 new back in 2013 as a wedding gift for me. I still have those two cameras with along with all my AFD lenses. Yes, I took advantage of getting used AFD lenses and got myself an almost new 85 1.4 AFD for $450 in Kyoto, Japan back in 2018. I will say DSLR are heavy but there’s something magical and intimate about looking into an optical viewfinder. Anyway, if I ever do shift to a mirrorless, I’ll definitely go to medium format. One day, maybe. For now, I’m still happy with my D800 and I haven’t even pushed this camera to be its limit. Maybe a good used D4 would be nice also. Haha. Anyway thanks for the video!

[@ecobooster8298]

With ya on this! I still shoot with my D800 and D810😅

[@rockfordzzz]

I'm happy to see someone voice out my opinion 😃 i have nothing against mirrorless but just that some things about it including the current price for a good mirrorless doesn't make sense to me at all

[@carlosencarnacion9667]

I have been taking advantge of those who sell their DSLR equipment cheap and building quite an arsenal, from M42 lenses to modern-day AF lenses. I am not willing to get rid of all that stuff and mortgage my house to get a mirrorless system, if I am happy with the performance of my gear, why should I switch? What I crave today is a Pentax K1 MII. In general, the advantages of mirrorless over DSLRs can be counted with the fingers of one hand. Conversely, there are advantages of DSLRS over mirrorless too.

[@1972myc]

I think it's interesting how people want vintage cameras nowadays, and they long for them. And now here we go (again), switching to another system "mirrorless" and people will long for the DSLR. Enjoy them while we have them!

[@derekcoe9633]

I do own a couple of mirrorless cameras BUT I more often than not find myself going back to my old Nikon D200, mirrorless always seems to deliver quite a flat image (to me anyway).

[@PerfectNormal]

I just got my D200 and I really like it.

[@thomaslevine405]

I recently bought a Nikon D850, I didn't want a mirrorless. I work on images and projects on the computer for hours and hours and the last thing I want to do is stare at another computer screen in a camera's viewfinder. I want to see a live image, not a computer's version of it. I also don't want to carry anymore than 2 batteries when I travel and that wouldn't cut it with mirrorless. I'm sticking with DSLR and I have no plans to change. Thanks for the great video, happy to know I'm not the only one.

[@ecobooster8298]

Awesome video!! I still shoot with my D800 and D810!! Each and every time tome I shoot with them, I'm still in awe of those beautiful pictures!!

[@Pinchepinzon]

I prefer the smaller size of mirrorless, being able to have a full frame camera like my a7cii on my cargos pockets or in a small travel bag is priceless to me

[@joelee24]

I couldn't agree more, and I hated to hear bad comment on Pentax bcoz it doesn't shoot video well, Pentax was not focus on video from the start. Hardly any new mirrorless these days matches the build quality and ease of use of Pentax, that's why I still stick with it after my first Pentax DSLR 10yrs. ago

[@photomaker4502]

For me, I have two cameras (dslr's) that have CCD sensor in them. If Canon, Nikon, Fujifilm, Sony, etc put back CCD sensor into their mirrorless system, it would be gold!

[@wlbear2570]

My d850 and d750 with 30 Nikkor lenses are not going anywhere

[@Erich-b3d]

Luke is absolutely right once again. Why fix something that is not only not broken, but is the best technology we've ever had? I'm not getting into these "mirrorless" cameras when the cameras that actually *_have_* mirrors work better than anything I've ever had

[@krzysztofkurzaj2755]

I have some compact cameras (namely Ricoh GR and Fujifilm X100s) that I use in particular scenarios because of their compact design and mobility. For everything else it's DSLR. Mirrorless cameras feel too "electronic" to me. I don't feel having full connection with the equipment when I handle them. They have their advantages but I guess my brain is just wired a bit different. For wildlife photo and video I use Nikon D500. For everything else it's D700 which is a 14 yeast old cam. And I recently acquired another D700. Because it's that good for stills. I think a lot of people do not even realize how good this camera is.

[@djbelly4968]

D700 alltime FAV

[@fatweevlogs]

When I started vvlogging, i thought i needed to switch to a mirrorless, so I did. But luckily I didnt sell all my dslrs, and I still now use my 30d because then for photography, I think the user experience of a mirrorless cant quite replace the dslrs. And yes, I do like the optical VF, as well as the chunky body with a firm grip. And I have small hands.

[@songkosra12]

Wow. You've just confirmed my purchase of a dslr, especially the d4. Thanks

[@peterlariviere2118]

I agree with Luke and much prefer my wildlife photography with a DSLR and not a mirrorless. I am happy with the mirrorless, for example these last 6 weeks while in Portugal, for travel and general photography. It is lighter and smaller as a body (full frame). But when I get back home and out taking birds during their fall migration I will be taking my DSLR.

[@quazisanjeed6395]

Spot on. The EVF lag renders the mirrorless camera unfit for action/wildlife photography no matter what the promoters scream about.

[@Royalbob123]

@@quazisanjeed6395I see. What is EVF lag ? New models of mirrorless cameras have animal Mode too ..?

[@quazisanjeed6395]

@@Royalbob123 that mode doesn't compensate for EVF lag. When you shoot with a mirrorless camera, the captured frame is never exactly the same as what is viewed in the EVF at that very moment. The view is available after it's processed by the processor that takes time. This is what we know as lag. Modern cameras have successfully narrowed down that lag however; it's not the same as the speed of light which is what we get on OVF.

[@Royalbob123]

@@quazisanjeed6395 oh I see. Thanks for explaining but DSLR production is stopped by most brands and mirrorless is the future as per them /market ? But they claim mirrorless cameras are more suitable for wildlife as they are fast and have many focus points ( especially eye 👁️)

[@quazisanjeed6395]

@@Royalbob123 manufacturers claim a lot of things that are not true. They need sales only this is true. I cannot speak about others but myself only. I'm a hobbyist photographer and own 5 pro bodies with tons of shutter life remaining. More than sufficient for next 10 years or more from now on. However, had I been a starter, I would choose Pentax who have vowed to continue producing DSLRs and not go mirrorless. The KZbinr of this video also declared he's DSLR forever. Because these are real cameras. Whereas, mirrorless cameras are just smartphone updates. They might be overtaken by those phones in near future!

[@DragonEye1911]

I have the D4. One of the most sensible camera decisions I’ve ever made.

[@Druff71]

great camera In every respect

[@linjicakonikon7666]

I love my Nikon D3, D700 and D300 cameras. They are my companions. I'm old, they're old. We still have life left in us. Life is good.📷👍

[@stecartmel]

same .. d300s . d600, d800.. I would lose a TON of money to trade all them in and the glass.. I don't think I've come across a photo that I thought .. shit I need a motherless camera to take this photo . can anyone tell me that they can only take that photo with a mirrorless camera. the most famous photos in the world was taken on film .. go figure that out people.

[@stephanweiskorn6760]

Excellent video 😮!

[@jfphotography69]

I have been shooting the fantastic D850 for years and the Z9 for close to one year, the Z9 is a D850 on steroids. Have hardly used the D850 in the last year since I bought the Z9, bought the Z9 mostly for video, and was also concerned about the EVF vs OVF effect and the battery life. The EVF is fantastic, NO LAG whatsoever, and it's crisp and clear, what you see "exposure wise" is what you are capturing, which means less PP work needed when it comes to highlights and shadows "I also only shoot in RAW". You can see your histogram in the EVF in real time, the same with the how dark or bright the scene is "what the sensor is capturing" in real time, your also have edge to edge AF coverage of the sensor, which is not the case with a DSLR. The one other great thing about the Z9 is that it has no shutter mechanism, which means one less mechanical part that could fail. And let's not forget that with mirrorless you no longer have to calibrate your lenses to your body to help mitigate back-focus or front-focus AF issues. In regards to battery life, the Z9 "I can only speak of the Z9" is great "thousands of shots on one charge" for a mirrorless camera. It's not as good as the D850 with the battery grip, reason is that the D850 or any other DSLR does not have to power an EVF and all the other functions that DSLRs lack compared to mirrorless cameras. Final note, the D850 is still one great stills camera, it didn't stop being great do to the Z9 or any other mirrorless camera.

[@quazisanjeed6395]

Thank you Luke from the core of my heart. I extend my hand for a cordial handshake. I'm in 100% agreement with you on this subject. I was little scared that perhaps I might not find anyone on the same platform as everyone seems to be singing MILC! Now, I know not all are that crazy to join just any chorus sung around them. As a hobbyist nature & wildlife photographer; I love DSLRs for the same reasons you mentioned. Furthermore, I also love older DSLRs. Being a Canon user, I shoot with 5D Classic, 5DII, 1DIV, 7D and in order to try out some new features (hardly necessary); I bought 90D couple of weeks ago. I know Canon also declared their focus on producing MILCs and stop DSLRs but I don't really care. Because the gears I own have huge shutter life remaining. I always use native lenses and don't feel the necessity of AF microadjustment for them. They are always spot on. Thank you again.

[@orebabaalibaba]

Yes Sir, I share the same thought. Thanks for sharing

[@oggy4418]

You made a very strong point about being able to simply see throught the lense itself which is very tangible and almost magical experience through which we connect to the world around us.

[@ridealongwithrandy]

I'm with you bro! Nikon D4S, D750, and the D500 for me! I get amazing wildlife and birding photographs! BTW, ALL my cameras -EVER - have been gripped! Cheers!

[@LukeAyers]

Beautiful! Well done mate!

[@r1berto1]

That's your opinion. I know they are not for everybody, (different strokes for different folks). I kept a couple of my older DSLR, I also own a couple of film cameras (they are no longer my daily shooters). My Z6ii has a wider lens opening, its better at low light situations. Image quality is awesome. The electronic viewfinder shows what your image is going to look like before you capture it. The Z primes and zooms are off the scale. Mirrorless are the future. Life is change, growth is optional. Choose wisely. Thanks for your post.

[@tomsviewphoto]

Z6ii is a solid camera. I love mine.

[@r1berto1]

@@tomsviewphoto You are so right! The Z6ii is also a low light monster. I recently sold mine to make room for the coming release of the Z6iii. In the meantime the Z5 is my daily shooter. Wishing you all the very best!

[@jasonbodden8816]

All about user experience. And that doesn't have to mean the latest technology. Like he says, everyone has their preferences and that's fine. But for HIM, he's saying why he doesn't like mirrorless. Technology can suck it. If a mirrorless camera doesn't feel right, you're not going to take the best pictures you can. Nothing to do with growth. For instance, many people have gone back to film because they enjoy it a hell of a lot more than mirrorless and even DSLR's, which they gave a fair shake and realized it wasn't for them, which is also fine.

[@rushorahman]

When we are taking a picture using our phones, we are not using an optical viewfinder. It's good to try new technology.

[@user-JM1967]

Great video!

[@aling.4977]

I may just be the last person on earth to buy a brand new Canon 5D MARK IV on 23/4/2024 and for the second time!! 😮 Let me explain. I had the 5Dmk4 with EF 50 mm f/1.2 and EF 70-200 f/2.8 mkll for 7 years and after selling everything around 5 months ago to switch to mirrorles again🤦🏻‍♂️I came across my all time favourite Canon lens the chunky EF 24-70 f/2.8 L USM on gumtree in its original box in brand new condition “and yes I know what you’re thinking” I bought it straight away thinking it’ll go great with the R6 Mark ll stabilised body🙂 well what do you know, the EVF was the biggest disappointment once again.

[@highestsprings]

Having tried ML cameras I prefer DSLR, I will be staying with Pentax and I am glad they are not loosing the OVF in the ongoing tech race for better specs. For me there is something more engaging in the process using DSLR even if sometimes you have to work a little harder. It is good that Pentax will be continuing the production and development of this type of photography. As an example the K3 mk111 is a beautiful camera and I look forward to what they come up with in the future!

[@douglasstemke2444]

This may turn into a religious event. As a lifelong Pentax use, film, 67, and now dSLR I have long been to that temple of seeing the moment. It seems at times we worry that Pentax will be passed by, so many times it's epitaph has been written. But it is the love of seeing that moment that you expressed so clearly that will keep it going. I am a naturalist first who adores capturing moments of nature. When ai want a nature on TV I'll watch BBC or PBS

[@LiamFyfe]

It doesn’t matter what camera you have in your hand, i choose the one i make money with. All the talk of this and that, just go out and shoot wether its your job or for a hobby. Dont matter, missing shots is part of photography, messing up shots is part of photography… its about learning, creating your style and enjoying it, ive been a professional (make a living from) photographer for 6 years and still love making images. Still dont care what camera is in my hand, i have a preference down to what works for me but who cares what anyone else is using? Go out shooting! I love my d5, its been with me through so so much but i also have a z6ii and boy is that thing chief! I love the evf, in a different way to the ovf, 90% of the time i use the z6ii with superior glass but 10% i dig out the war horse… same standard of pictures, makes me my living no one would know what camera i used, but i know that each serve a purpose!

[@jameshall2882]

Very sensible response. I completely agree!

[@WayniacKT]

Love it! Right there with ya.

[@dirkjanranzijn]

Excacly ! You just put the nail on it’s head! DSLR forever, I love my D5 and D850. Many greetings from Holland

[@angelh1743]

I agree with everything you said. I've read several articles that mirrorless camera are not quite up to par with actual DSLR cameras. Maybe in a few more years. I started with a Nikon D60 (still works). Upgraded to Nikon D7200 which I love to this day. Since I found my father's old Canon A1 camera (44 years old) I want to get it clean professionally. I miss the old 35mm film cameras. I honestly do. I want to get a Nikon F3 and F6. They are more affordable now than when they were introduced. Love B&W photos from quality 35mm film. Looks amazing. Question: What is your go to 35mm SLR camera? Do you still shoot film cameras? Thx for the video.

[@harryvuemedia]

Where did you read your source from? Mirrorless have surpassed DSLR ever since 2017. Mirrorless have achieved incredible feats that DSLR will never be able to do. Feats like IBIS, Eye-AF, 400+ focus points, Blackout-free EVF, Touch Tracking, Silent shooting, 20+ FPS, Stacked CMOS sensor, Intelligent Autofocus, and much more. Mirrorless is the future of photography and will continue to be so because by removing that mirror, Sony unlocked so much potential from cameras.

[@kamilpotato3764]

@@harryvuemedia Biggest plus with mirrorless is Ai trained autofocus. It's a game changer with wildlife and portrait photography. And one more thing. No more anoying lens calibrations.

[@harryvuemedia]

@@kamilpotato3764 Oh yes, i totally forgot about Ai autofocus!! When I played with the a7RV, it definitely helped greatly in differentiating focus from dog to human to car. Sounds like a gimmick feature but its very useful because now i dont have to set my focus area to the center and shoot the car in teh center. I can set the focus to Ai Car autofocus so no matter where the car comes out of onto the screen, it will track it right away. Same goes with my friend's dog. She just runs around and i click away as the Ai focus follows here everywhere until another dog came in the scene. And yes, no more lens calibrations at all because mirrorless cameras have closer flange distances of 20mm or less. That's the best part of switching lenses quickly!!

[@kamilpotato3764]

@@harryvuemedia Yes it's important. Instead of messing around with joystick, directional pad I can more concentrate on composition and interaction with model. I still stand with my opinion. Dslr are tools that are surpassed with new technology. Saying it as a Canon 6d shooter and 35mm slr shooter. Mirrorless will only get better with subject recognition. And please don't tell me you never had a problem with front or back focusing on dslr lenses.

[@FelanLP]

0:40 (Maybe a bit late, but) You are not just looking at a little TV screen. You are looking at how your image will be exposed. On DLSR it is essentially just guess work. Tbh, since we are notlimited to film anymore, it isn't realy an issue to just take another picture, but especially when you have moments, you can't really afford to have to take a picture, just to realise that your exposure was a bit off. And what do you care how the image through the lens looks to your eye. What matters is how the taken image looks. And when you take pictures digitall anyway, why then still bother with a technique which was just neccessary, when "live view" wans't an option.

[@MrStevegibb]

Watch a 4k video on your EVF then go watch it on your 4k Tv do they look the same NO the EVF looks massively worse as it has nowhere near the fidelity required to really depict what you are getting.

[@FelanLP]

@@MrStevegibb I wasn't talking about EVFs. Or Videos. But about not seeing what your camera sees. DLSRs have a mirror, means you actually see through the lense. Means you have to guess how exposed your image will be. Even though you have a couple of indicators and you can get a feel for it with a learning curve. But it is still just guesswork. And you are right, the cameras display is never a good option to judge photos. So you wont truely know until post wether you nailed the exposure and stuff. On Mirrorless cameras, your eyes actually sees the same, as your camera. It doesn't matter if you look truough the viewfinder or trough your monitor, both are the same image. Now it just matters if you camera actually displayed the image, how it will get recorded. (Maybe it's different on different system cameras, but I noticed a shift in the live preview, when switching from manual to aperture or shutter priority, even though the result looked the same in both modes, when using the same values. but that's a different topic and a question for the software developers, why they did it this way.) Means the mirror is actually a flaw, if you see it from a technical pov.

[@johntravena119]

Agree with everything you say - I have an early Fuji with a laggy evf that is hella annoying. When shooting pictures of people I try and split my attention between the viewfinder (for focus and composition) and an unobstructed view of my subject to get the moment I want. It’s not working very well.. My problem with dslrs comes down to 1) manual focus. Having originally shot film I liked the split prism and while focus peaking/magnification aren’t as good as the split prism, they’re better for manual focus than what dslrs offer. 2) For those of us who want to shoot video there is the issue of stabilization. Pentax seems to have had the right idea and I spose Nikon and the others could’ve followed suit but for whatever reason didn’t. Also, I like the simplicity of the dslr compared to the complexity of some of these supercomputing mirrorless cameras. I don’t feel I need a PhD in menu navigation.

[@njrivetelite]

There are lots of things I really like about mirrorless cameras. The autofocus systems got a big bump. The R5 & R6 was a game changer for me. If I bought a DSLR today. There would only be one I'd consider. The Nikon D850 It was probably the pinnacle of DSLR's.

[@tudorciobanu3895]

Yeah, everybody talks about the AF. I stil use my Zeiss Planar, MF, on my Canon 5D and Canon 5D Mark III. And i don’t get it. I never had a problem with my AF lenses, how come this is a big think?

[@wojt4spes]

@@tudorciobanu3895 well, try eye AF once and you will see. It surely depends of what and how you photograph, but it's so simple to just focus on composition and let the model move and AF system to catch her face\eye on wide aperture.

[@njrivetelite]

@Tudor Ciobanu it's one of those things that you don't realize you wanted or needed till you are using it and it blows your mind how improved it is. I loved my 5DMKII then My 6DMKII.. I shoot a lot of real estate.. one company I work with wants their shots in HDR.. I shoot 5 shot brackets.. I shoot my real estate bracketed shots handheld instead of with tripod. A realtor had hired multiple ppl to shoot a house. Me for video plus some extra still shots & the realtors advert reel. The other photographer was shooting with his Nikon 750D which is a solid camera on a tripod. The photographer was liking my shots so much instead of some highlight stills he asked if I'd shoot the whole house. Which I did so they had extra coverage. I did the video & photo quicker & better than the guy who was shooting just photo on a tripod. The other guy had been their regular for years. Is this just about the Camera? No.. I have great glass & know how to be extremely efficient. Plus I know my composition and what these realtors want/like. So yes the EF glass is still great as is the 5D3 & 5D4.. but an R6/R6ii would really improve your workflow in ways you don't realize until you use one for awhile. Do I think the R6II's picture quality is better than the 5D4? Not resolution but I do notice a dynamic range improvement and certainly the low light performance is very noticeable. I'm not saying you gotta jump to mirrorless.. but I am saying it does just make things seem to flow more smoothly. You really don't realize how much I loved my 6DMKII. It almost pissed me off that the R6 was that much of an improvement. On a manual focus lens obviously you won't see the benefits of AF. And also depends on what subjects you're shooting with a manual focus lens. And with the older AF lenses.. there wasn't a "problem" so to speak. It's just a vast improvement with how it locks on. How fast it locks on.. low light is less of an issue. The RF L glass is noticeably better In many ways. Even the 100 Macro lens you get more magnification.

[@tudorciobanu3895]

@@wojt4spes I believe you are right, but for my photography I don"t think that will bring a big plus. I enjoy using the camera, optical viewfinder, buttons, manual focus. I believe Leica M will be my next camera. Again, this is because I love the experience using manual focus, optical view finder and so on.

[@wojt4spes]

@@tudorciobanu3895 I do have Leica M and I second you in that department. But there is a difference between making photography for myself and making photography for a client.

[@AnthonyPtak]

Yes the view through the lens is everything

[@creativevisiongaming]

The number one reason I prefer DSLR is the viewfinder

[@LukeAyers]

Totally

[@David_Quinn1995]

that OVF gives a feeling of reality, these EVFs are cool and all but then I worry about burn-in, dead pixels, electrical issues, and the likes, I am not easy on my equipment I use it in snow rain, and heat, shorelines, and marshlands. My equipment is well used and it is taken care of but again one less thing that can fail the better.

[@timeverett5738]

Give me a DSLR any day, you can stick mirroless camera's where the Sun don't shine.

[@mnchabel8402]

I was about to buy a canon r50 and was so shocked it shoot 360 pics before it dies. I had a nikon d3400 years back and it did 1500 before it died but I used to complain about the battery life on it. Thank you for the video, now I know exactly which camera to buy.

[@khanscombe619]

I grew up SLR & in sports journalism u had to pre adjust for mirror lag & black out ad well mirror slap & vibration. & stop down metering is more difficult in less light. But they have their place. Mirrorless lag as improved as said but big advantage is the TTL metering live w/ dof & histogram. Not to mention more focus assists. I find myself using lcd w/ zoom in focus for technical work that used to require special viewfinder or magnifying aids to use. You got me on battery. But now we have sub charge in place & add on packs. But my favorite is the slimmer body w/o mirror box gives us the short flange of a rangefinder & ability to use so many other lenses

[@rleeshutter]

Isn't there a lag from when he presses the shutter to the photo being taken as the mirror has to move out of the way before the shutter fires?!? So I don't see the point of him complaining that mirrorless has a lag when a dslr has a lag as well.

[@caltari]

I own both, for travel I like the light weight of my Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II but for Macro photography I prefer the extreme detail I can see through the view finder using my Nikon D850 DSLR. Cheers!!!

[@LukeAyers]

Awesome!

[@CRobbins131]

I have 4 DSLRs and I say ‘out of my cold dead hands”

[@LukeAyers]

YES!

[@andypandy3736]

one big thing to consider which most people wont even think about this evf oled screen that arnt that far away from your eye pupil what damge will it do to your eyes in the next 10 years optical view finder is a prism piece of glass no harm to the eye

[@robdixon5016]

Im old school as well. I shoot with a D4s and a D3500 for digital. I love medium format film as well (slides mostly) and a bunch of 35mm cameras including an F5 and F6.

[@joekelly9369]

I opted for another d850 over a z9. I used the z9 for a week photographing climbers in scotland , i couldnt wait to give it back , theyre like 20 year old fuji bridge cameras , i like manual everything even focus !

[@amircausevic7512]

What is with your video, 9:16 ?

[@NobbyChariot]

I have the Z8 and it was tough getting used to it. I love the D700 D800 and agree with all your comments. But, but, you will eventually succumb to mirror less😂😂😂😂. Keep it up👍🏻

[@jerryrichards8172]

At the beginning of this yr I purchased my first digital camera. I was still useing film I picked the sony a77ii because of all my glass from my minolta 35mm alpha-9 and the sony is very similar and it feels like a slr to me. Fine video thanks for sharing ❤

[@MrKravmagadude]

Had loads of cameras. Canon 5D 2, D600, D800, D300s (great camera), 1Dx Mk ii ; M50, Fuji XT4 (and 1 and 2), Sony A6400. Sold the lot. Keeping my 5D2 and bought a D500 a couple of weeks ago. Couldn’t be happier.

[@charlsonnyledelacerna8080]

I had to choose before i bought my camera. It was either a fuji xt20 or a nikon d3. HAHAHA i love my nikon d3

[@LukeAyers]

Awesome!

[@chesterjohnson4504]

2024 already. I purchased two Canon R5 cameras and a few overly priced RF lenses. I have kept some of my Nikon SDLR cameras and a few lenses. The battery life on the ML cameras do suck. I am seriously considering selling/trading my ML cameras to get back into DSLRS where I can afford the lenses and batteries. I am now retired and just enjoy taking pictures. I have had to purchase a battery pack and numerous batteries just to take my ML for a few days up in the mountains or on vacation. I have had a Nikon D4s for years, a D700 and a D810. I should have kept my Nikon lenses and just upgraded to a D850 and forgone the ML route. It is the enjoyment of taking pictures with a camera and not a computer. If I was a pro shooter with years left maybe a ML is the way to go.

[@kiremarinceski1036]

I own them both dslr and mirrorless . love my dslr because I can just go for a walk and look trough the viewfinder with my camera off and search for composition… I can’t do that with my mirrorsless I need to have my camera on and waist my battery!

[@damiandavis6244]

Thanks for this. I feel exactly the same. This summer, I upgraded to the original Canon 1DX for similar reasons. It allows to to capture exactly the moment I want to capture, not a split second later, when I’ve potentially missed that facial expression! Anyway, thanks again

[@LukeAyers]

Excellent, man!

[@_systemd]

There's 9ms lag from pressing the shutter to recording image based on some Sony specs , just an example. So tell me please what the hell do you photograph , that with your 200ms reaction time you complain about 9ms shutter release. Facial expressions of dragon flies on crystal meth ? There's like dozen of reasons to go for DSLR but for some weird logic many of you feel like flapping of mirror is lag-less while mirrorless are so damn slow.

[@tudorciobanu3895]

Don’t trust Sony marketing machine

[@FGGiskard]

@@_systemd its like the mirror got out of the way instantly…

[@cedricwebb5576]

This video was especially for me 😆. I'm on the fence with mirrorless vs DSLR. I love my DSLR. I recently purchased a mirrorless toy,,,oooops I mean camera lol. The mirrorless is very small and lightweight. I appreciate the rapid deployment and ease of handling. I used it for goofing around but if it's a paid job, or something I want to keep, then it's DSLR for me. I'm used to DSLR and I'm with you Sir. I'm sticking with it as long as I can. I'm not hating on mirrorless cameras. I've seen remarkable images from them. I shot a lot on low light. I use flash where allowed or applicable. However, my DSLR does good in low light situations where flash is not used. I'm glad that we have the choice and I know that great images will come for both types. I just wish I could find a dslr with great live view performance like my mirrorless. Somebody please let me know if there's a dslr with amazing live view performance. Thanks and God bless.

[@L.Spencer]

I would like to upgrade my canon rebel t6 in a few years, but if they're not going to keep making them maybe I better buy it sooner than later.

[@techcode_man]

No matter come what, you cannot pry my D750 from my hands. 📸📷📸📷

[@LukeAyers]

😁💪

[@scotthullinger4684]

I agree with this video 100% percent - !!

[@AntonioGaetanoDeLuca]

Just watched now. Totally, totally and totally agree with you! 6:47 was EPIC! :D

[@arieschuite2256]

hello Mark, it's clear what you say, respect for that. For comparable reasons I choose for...mirrorless. Because of the great Fujinon lenses with their opening ring on it. As an old school film photographer, my XT3 gives me the same joy than with a vintage SLR. Question of feeling. I just shoot for pleasure, not at all pro.

[@marcsilber]

👍

[@avinashrai11141]

There are many advantages of dslr over mirrorless and the biggest one is that a dslr can be mirrorless but a mirrorless cant be a dslr. Dslrs will not die but will be killed.

[@gooeytv1184]

Dslr can be mirrorless? You don't know what you're saying.

[@seeingmonochrome]

​@@gooeytv1184 it's called live view and yes it's mirrorless, the mirror moves out of the way and the image is displayed on the rear LCD panel

[@pjc3163]

@@gooeytv1184 he's talking about being in "live view" mode

[@harryvuemedia]

Dumbest comment on this video so far. DSLR can never be a Mirrorless period. And Mirrorless does not want to be a DSLR. If DSLR can be mirrorless, then go silent shooting at a press conference. Use Eye-AF in portrait sessions. Capture sports players at 20+ fps. Use IBIS in DSLR to stable your video footages. Review your images in the OVF. And most of all, use all those 400 focus points in your DSLR. Otherwise, just another DSLR shooter coming up with more dumb excuses again.

[@archeryandstuffwithstevela3423]

Totally agree! I’m still using a D7200. I can’t see a need to upgrade. When we shot film, back when, I used the same camera for 30 years.

[@LukeAyers]

Awesome bro!

[@markco4911]

Absolutely correct!

[@farouk6564]

You also get cheep lenses for dslr

[@dazxmedia]

I do love the DSLR shooting experience, but their AF cannot compete with mirrorless they are light years slower.

[@badongtagalog5737]

Technology matures like dslrs when it started decades ago. Mirroless isnt just removing mirrors that flips but way more than that. It improves many things that dslr can just wish it has.

[@StreetPhotographyChannel]

Totally agree with you.

[@fordprefect1575]

agree. ive got a xt30 and is ok because it small. love my D800 even tho its heavy.

[@David_Quinn1995]

whats crazy is 5 of those 7 DSLRs were also over 10 years old, 2 were Canon D1-X which is a 14mp sensor.

[@davidjb9199]

I have both types of technology but I always find myself gravitating back to the DSLR. I completely agree that even though they have cut the display lag significantly, they will never reach the speed of light. The closest thing is a Z9/Z8 (or Sony's A9/A1 series) with the stacked sensor technology and zero lag viewing, but it is still a processed version of reality. The argument for mirrorless viewfinders that irks me the most is that you get to see what the camera is picking for exposure and have an opportunity to correct this before capture. Two problems with this: 1) In the heat of the action who has time to make corrections on the fly?; 2) Since when have exposure systems gotten so bad that this is necessary? This argument is totally lame. I don't have a D4, but I do have the Df and absolutely love that 16 MP sensor. While I really liked my D700, I like my Df even more. All of this just to say you are not alone in your position on this topic. Cheers!

[@walterhf]

Easy, switch to PENTAX...

[@anta40]

Isn't the shooting experience with digital mirrorless is more or less like shooting with film rangefinder? Digital mirrorless: you see the image on LCD/digital VF, captured by the image sensor Film rangefinder: you see the image on the viewfinder frame. On both cases, you don't see "directly" from the lens. Anyway, for me, the #1 dealbreaker is medium format. Really, medium format DSLR like Hasselbad or Phase One isn't particularly fun for daily walk. Compare that to e.g Fuji GFX50, which is not bigger than Nikon D800. Yes, I know medium format film bodies like Pentax 67 or Mamiya RB is even bigger and heavier.