Bad Movie Fights vs Good Movie Fights, Vol. 4

[@MarcusFlemmings]

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[@GMitchell2012]

Talk about bad editing what happened @12:17? (Edit) Ps your audio is all over the place.

[@roydelpozo4816]

Chan . Own crazy Stunts sold me 4 decades ago !

[@jdso686]

Hey I wanted to know if you could review the movie monkey man and the show warrior

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

also Lee obv iously, he had feel, Chan is a master of his craft but nah man, Lee opened China to the west, paved the way for them.

[@Yoru-cake]

I don't know why people dont include Batman from 2022 more,it's technically the most realistic on what would happen in a fight.

[@cjcollan4689]

The nobody bus scene is a perfect microcosm of an older underdog fighting against odds from something we all can agree to fight for (the girl on the bus) plus the implication of his own pride. The fact he saved the last guy by stopping him from choking shows he wanted to beat them, not kill them. A masterclass in what makes a fight scene amazing

[@garrick3727]

I like how the speed of the first attacker caught him off guard. When you're older, you don't fee like your reflexes are worse until something puts them to the test. He adapts to the situation by being more aggressive and up close, so that their better reflexes don't matter as much. Then his experience allows him to counter their limited options.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Brilliant analysis!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Yes and yes! He was a bit rusty too - as he hadn't fought in years :)

[@theguileraven7014]

If only the rest of the movie kept that energy. lol

[@ChanceGuevara]

​​@@MarcusFlemmingswhen he gets back up after being thrown out the Windows to walkback in Is just so damn raw why You got in the thumbnail like it's a shit fight man?!?

[@badger297]

Im telling you, if you were a 12-14 year old boy in the early 2000s, BLADE was the coolest fucking thing we'd ever seen.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

YES!!!!!

[@AzureRoxe]

Honestly, even NOW Blade is badass as hell. The opening for the first movie is still one of the most cool and badass moments in general.

[@DJ-pp4mt]

That was me and I had his replica throwing knife and I thought I was the coolest🤣

[@ChakkravutChinalai]

Wesley had all the skills. Donnie Yen in Blade 2 is pure badass also.

[@saucyb3585]

I liked it better than the Matrix. That opening scene is just amazing

[@strateupgamr7]

Its not just the brutality or the context behind the bus scene, its the honesty. No lampshading with intense action music. No boring guns. It's literally "I'm gonna fuck you up." And it fucking does.

[@Es-zb8vu]

"No boring guns" You have never seen John Wick.

[@rvmen1065]

i didnt see it mentioned in the video whats that movies name? it looks amazing

[@BaulFoodmanedits]

@@Es-zb8vuJohn Wick is known for making guns not boring specifically tho so not really sure what you’re trying to say

[@thangluongviet6461]

what's that movie name?

[@MoistMozzarellaSticks]

​@@rvmen1065"Nobody"

[@CardiacYew-xt5zq]

21:31 what I love about Nobody is that it’s always an uphill battle for him because of his age, he isn’t in his prime anymore but can still hold his own but you can see him wearing down after each blow

[@MasterJack2]

Bob Odenkirk is not an action movie actor and he is far from prime. But when you have a dedicated actor, a good director and a competent fight choreographer you can achieve great things. This scene was excellent.

[@CardiacYew-xt5zq]

@@MasterJack2 oh I meant as in story, the main character (forgot his name) isn’t in his prime anymore

[@MaxJustMax...1]

I came and thought he would talk about Nobody and sword fight scene and thought it be the entire video but it was like at most 7 minutes.

[@steps3344]

> "Remember, no gunfights." > First scene, a gunfight.

[@thegiantratthatmakesalloft9415]

>le funny green arrow meme >le XD

[@tarekcat1]

Grrrr i hate > arrows

[@PeptoAbismol]

@@thegiantratthatmakesalloft9415 funniest jerma fan vs random greentext

[@sarah69420]

@@PeptoAbismoljerma is everywhere. He lives behind my eyelids. He must have escaped containment.

[@alberteinstein6365]

(Sad John wick noses)

[@pabloc8808]

Man, I'll say, love the video, but it's criminal that you mentioned Jackie Chan and didn't include the legendary Drunken Master II factory fight. It is a masterpiece of choreography, and, imo, his finest work Edit: people commented saying Jackie Chan had other works that surpass the factory fight scene from Drunken Master II. I respect that but my opinion remains unchanged: it isn't Chan's finest choreography overall, but the stunts, the props, and the gravity-defying moves he pulls in that scene, along with the excuse-plot, still make it the best for me. It is a matter of opinion though, so I won't try to change anybody's mind

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Agreed! BUT ....a huge but (a J Lo) - that will be featured properly in a video about Chan! The scene deserves a breakdown and not just some clips!

[@b0zz1380y]

@@MarcusFlemmingscan you do the fight scene from the punisher movie with the Russian please?

[@pabloc8808]

@@MarcusFlemmings I'll be looking forward to that, after all if Bruce Lee is the man when it comes to martial arts in movies, Jackie Chan is the man who made martial arts in movies entertaining and memorable

[@TabsT-vy5jy]

Police story 1 Police story 2 Armour of god Meals on wheels Dragons forever Those are his finest work.

[@ajzorger93]

I love the carriage fight in the first Drunken Master

[@gilliganinja]

The scene shown from Inception wasn't wire work, it was a full hallway set built in a frame that could fully rotate like that

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Yes, for sure! i was more talking about how effects/filmmaking that breaks the idea of gravity are perfectly used in both films :)

[@gilliganinja]

​@MarcusFlemmings ah, gotcha! Then I completely agree, the wire work in Inception was fantastic!

[@ARavingLobster]

​​@@MarcusFlemmings I mean you stated Inception was probably the second best wirework after the Matrix, that was the whole premise of your sentence at 2:33. There's really no reason to pretend like you knew it was a rotating set considering you used it as an example of some of the best wirework ever done. Better to just acknowledge that you learned something new from the commenter and thank them for the insight and correction.

[@jasonklark82]

@@ARavingLobster Nah

[@zacharynguyen7286]

@@ARavingLobsterthat’s a good point

[@ZockFromWien]

Bruce Lee: The Pioneer. From a martial arts standpoint: absolutely crazy. I think many people can´t even realize, how insane his physicality and martial arts skills were. Jackie Chan: better choreography, more creative scenes, more funny, perfected the art in his own style

[@finlaymma]

Bruce Lee is the most overrated martial artist of all time. Of course his ability was incredible. But due to pop culture he's seen as being this mythical fighter that could rival Muhammed Ali. We've got a recording of a single fight he did and neither he nor his opponent look particularly impressive. All we know for certain is that he was extremely fit and conditioned and bought the ideas of cross training into the martial arts mainstream.

[@allwoundup3574]

Bruce Lee loved to cheat on his wife and smoke crack

[@LonelyShadowHunters]

@@finlaymma The big issue is that people often mistake martial artist for fighter, and we don't really know much about how good Bruce Lee really were once he actually started cross training and incorporating his Jeet Kune Do philosophies after he got fed up with Wing Chun being incomplete. All we really have are old people's personal thoughts and his training philosophies kept alive to go off of, so eh. I think people should just stop making up fake stories about him and appreciate him for what he was, otherwise you're just kind of ruining what his legacy is supposed to be, imo

[@anonperson3972]

I think he was less of a pioneer than he is given credit for tbh. What did he ACTUALLY pioneer or invent? People have always cross trained disciplines, I can't think of a skill or technique he invented (it's hard to invent anything new in something people have been doing since prehistory after all). He was obviously good, but there were and are better fighters and better martial artists. He just had the celebrity factor and great marketing

[@darealblackg.o.d2001]

@@finlaymmaHe is the godfather of the MMA…

[@MelchVagquest]

You were pretty manipulative with your thumbnail. It suggests that you consider either the fight from Nobody or Kill Bill Vol. 1 to be bad, because of the "vs"

[@Revalopod]

Clickbait

[@ilyakusenco8151]

Literally the only reason i clicked was to know “is this idiot actually put Nobody or KB as a bad fight”. A clickbait

[@One.Zero.One101]

This dude also needs to trim down his videos. He likes to go on a tangent and I find myself asking "What was the video about again?".

[@breadproductions957]

00:10 why are they all taking turns lol

[@apolloisnotashirt]

cus i love rage baiting people

[@little_lord_tam]

Because you cant write cool scenes without that. IP man had that too btw

[@plstmb6000]

So many swords flailing around and none of them wearing body protection, i would guess they are scared of friendly fire.

[@warrenkeystone5195]

@@apolloisnotashirtfeminism is when a movie does something it's always done since the dawn of film making

[@abcdefg-ox6mu]

@@warrenkeystone5195feminism is when woman

[@kilochampion787]

The fact that Keanu was injured during the Matrix fight, really makes it that much more impressive

[@contrapasso1539]

Actors, good or bad who sacrifice their bodies on the line of duty always get my respect. F in chat for Viggo Mortgensen's big toe

[@sarah69420]

@@contrapasso1539everyone forgets about Sean Astin's foot that filled with blood and he had to be helicoptered out 😭

[@j.m.w.5064]

No. What does it matter.

[@kilochampion787]

@@j.m.w.5064 bait

[@contrapasso1539]

@@sarah69420 i did indeed forget about that 🤣

[@jamesmocharski4803]

Absolutely love the running gag of the seemingly never ending fight scene from “They Live,” just popping up again and again throughout the entire video. It truly is how that scene felt watching it over and over again as a kid on HBO. A bit silly, yet absolutely brutal.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Pahahahaha! That scene is ridiculous but also AMAZING!! What a film!

[@aaronleverton4221]

Then you may appreciate The Man From Hong Kong.

[@block4562]

They're still fighting in that alley today

[@Lil.Grandpa]

Still trying to get him to put on the glasses.

[@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266]

It felt like a real fight. Both were beating the shit out of each other, but clearly without lethal intent so, like in reality, it kept going on and on 😅

[@dubya13207]

Lee for breaking ground, Chan for tearing it to shreds Also…Blue Eye Samurai, Episode 5

[@MarcusFlemmings]

BIG shout! Love it!

[@iamnorth9435]

Lack of appreciation for Jet Li tho is haunting :(

[@GreaterSociety]

Wait u watch anime?

[@RedGhoulAnimation]

Jackie Chan is the goat bro

[@King-yj2jx]

@@GreaterSociety Yea, who doesn't? Losers?

[@MrXiphix]

man that roddy piper vs keith david fight from they live is still my favorite fight of all time. they really sorted out their issues with that one. just beautiful.

[@Mattball82]

The ‘They Live’ fight is the most ridiculous, amazing, entertaining, hilarious, and wonderful thing I’ve ever seen it’s always been my favorite fight scene of all time 🙌

[@vregile]

I'm so incredibly glad Scott Atkins got recognized for his work as Boyka

[@MarcusFlemmings]

He is a legend!

[@hogwatch1976]

Don’t forget his epic work in Doctors 😂 his fights in Metal Hurlant are excellent

[@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266]

Yet they forgot to mention Michael Jai White was the original protagonist from the series once again 😅

[@Selrisitai]

Check out Avengement if you haven't seen it before. I didn't even know Scott Atkins COULD ACT until that movie, and now I'm still confused at how good he is.

[@PLNKYELLOWBLACK]

@@Selrisitaiyou gotta watch accident man and the debt collector if you haven’t already. He’s actually a solid actor as well as an excellent martial artist and stunt man/choreographer. Accident man has Michael Jai White and, fuckin Darth Maul himself, Ray Park in it

[@Fopay12]

Makes sense that Master Yuen Wo Ping was the mastermind behind all of these fight scenes, his style of choreography is so recognizable

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Agreed - recognisable and brilliant!

[@npcimknot958]

100% especally when you watch the hk fantasy movies they scream yu wo ping. Those guys were so creative.

[@Cheezypoofball]

This guy really knows his stuff. He knows we want to watch the bullet dodge clip anyway so he threw it in then we move on. Top notch

[@SHVRWK]

Haha that's what I thought as well, it's really my favorite scene ever.

[@prroagil1233]

@@SHVRWK dodge this

[@JoeJJohnsonII85]

The fight scenes in Matrix set the standards for all future movies for me. The biggest factor that made it so good for me is the lack of camera cuts. Even when they do one it still feels seamless, and at no part in the fights do I feel like I've lost track of what's happening. Just perfection.

[@editorproductions5238]

"no guns allowed" proceeds to show a fight that uses a gun

[@DzT910]

wesley snipes just embodied blade so well. and he did so great to bring it into his fighting and can see his martial arts background showing too

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Wesley = Blade

[@robotjox77]

I was working in the cinema when Blade was released. All the male staff knew which times of day the final fight scene began in each showing. We would all gather together just as Wesley Snipes catches his glasses and the music begins. We literally watched that scene dozens of times and it's still awesome.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

HAHAHAHHA! It's one of the best fights ever....maybe my 3rd/2nd fave!

[@onelooongboi5838]

20:35 what everyone probably clicked for lmao

[@alinvid6098]

If I only say your comment before I skipped like 1 minute continously 😂😂😂 but Thanks bro !

[@Acorn11982]

Thank you

[@Ryusuta]

Definitely the case for me.

[@ofearghailthefearless6481]

Yes! I was hoping to see Nobody featured in this movie. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it! Don't sleep on it because there's a reason it's getting a sequel!

[@SlurpyTheDog]

10:28 Its very rare that I become legitimately impressed by the use of background clips during video essays, but this is one of the most perfect implementations I've ever seen on youtube, such a clever moment. Instantly subbed.

[@OzanBurada]

I think there are two things to note in a fight scene: does our beloved protagonist look like he can lose? For a fight to feel real, we need to feel they can lose as much as the other party. Second thing is that is it part of the story? Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon clip you showed told us how those two women acted in their life for example. Each fight in Everything Everywhere All at Once perfect part of the story we are seeing (It also has probably perfect editing. Kurosawa would be proud.)

[@MarcusFlemmings]

My friend, you always come with incredible comments :) agreed - Crouching Tiger and Everything Everywhere are great examples of wonderful stories that elevate the fight sequences :)

[@jormungandr4690]

For me it is more about to their moves seems like they are real to the brain. I personally think as purely fighting scene the kill bill scene is trash, because she does a tiny movement and the guy get sliced in half. She lightly jumps and it sends her 5 feet in the air. It breaks the immersion heavily. Her movements are all sluggish, even though they have to be fluid. No compare that to Crouching Tiger. The movements are so fluid these women can actually use these weapons and fight and it looks like that on screen.

[@agiksf.8998]

@@jormungandr4690 Trained martial arts actresses :) You can't compare that to someone who spent a few weeks preparing for a role to the Chinese doing this since childhood.

[@roflchiefmcjoflchief1791]

Lee did it first, but Chan's dedication, willingness to do his own stunts, and repertoire of learned arts makes him just as, if not more timeless

[@kiillabytez]

Lee's movies always had a group that always attacked him one at a time, and most of the time, the horrible acting really made most of the fights goofy.

[@kiillabytez]

Correction, there were actors who did Kung Fu scenes before Lee was even born.

[@giausjulius4]

To be fair as well Jackie had more time to flesh out his career. Jackie caught on a bit after Lee and his casting in movies was to a different character type. They are both Greats, just cut from a different color of silk.I am not sure you can really say who's better when both of them are suited to different roles.

[@kiillabytez]

@@giausjulius4 You can praise past accomplishments but what it boils down to is, "what have they done lately?"

[@n0xure]

That's how they sold him in Hollywood, but Chan is an Hong Kong actor and that's just how Hong Kong action cinema was back then - they were all tough as nails martial artists who did their own stunts.

[@babochee]

Wick with the throwing knives is as visceral as fighting scenes get. You feel the weight of the knives impacting the bodies as it should.

[@Version0111]

There's a fight scene in a Jackie Chan movie called Gorgeous that I remember being extremely good. I haven't seen that movie in maybe 20 years so I might be remembering it better than it was, but I remember thinking at the time it was one of the best fight scenes I'd seen up until then.

[@zubayrbhyat8077]

Not sure if you did this one. The Corridor scene in Daredevil. The rawness combined with the awkward camera angles. Charlie Cox just making mince meat out of a bunch of goons to rescue a kidnapped boy. Incredible.

[@damp2269]

Oldboy, the good one...

[@Christian_H3rnand3z]

I'm so glad you mentioned Scott Adkins. That man is an expert and an absolute beast. I watched a video of him breaking down John Wick fights. I'm also so glad you mentioned the iconic bus fight in "Nobody." It's so grounded, realistic, and gruesome. It's so cool to actually see the main character get hurt, so he has to be creative. I love the part when he pounds a guy's face with his watch. The end when he damages a guy's wind pipe always makes my throat hurt. That's how I know it's a good fight. *Just yikes!!!*

[@npcimknot958]

He was on Jackie’s team right?

[@carmillachoate]

As a lifelong fan of action movies I am constantly surprised that Atkinson and White never broke into the mainstream because they are both exquisite As with each of these videos, I can't recommend enough the final fight from Tyler Perry's Alex Cross. It has every single bad fight hallmark

[@npcimknot958]

2:49 fyi, i think inception wasn’t wire work, they had a turning corridor thats why it looks other worldly ( i think maybe some wires were to help but that was all a rotating set which makes it even more insane

[@Guranga93]

The best fight scene will forever be Kirk vs Gorn.

[@seen921]

The Batman doesn’t just beat the guy to the ground. Once the guy is laying there and prone Batman hit him two more times. Just sheer and brutal. Loved it. And my vote: Chan

[@MarcusFlemmings]

HAHAHA! Also stay tuned for Volume 5, out in 4 hours for the results of the winner!

[@maegnificant]

The Batman was a shit movie though.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

@@maegnificant I'm not a huge fan! But I can see why people ike it!

[@maegnificant]

@@MarcusFlemmings I honestly can't, but to each their own

[@swampfire_edits8976]

​@@maegnificantthe movie was great, what do you mean? Lmao

[@itsTapseeTheNative]

My favorite part of the subway fight scene in the Matrix is just after Neo gets a beat down and gets thrown through that kiosk, he gets back up and the dust flies off him as he's getting ready for another round. Just a cool little moment

[@Titan14157]

@9:20 When Bruce Lee does the finishing blow and noise, I immediately recognized that one of my favorite movies, Under Cover Brother, actually referenced it. I should've known, smh.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Damn! How could i have missed out on mentioned Undercover Brother! Incredible film :)

[@aaronleverton4221]

What? That was A Fistful of Yen. Available right here on KZbin.

[@seand7042]

When he smashed the bag of chips.... Ironically bringing it full circle MJW is Undercover Brother in the second film.. It's ass juice though so watch at your own peril

[@allwoundup3574]

Yep, he was reportedly a big fan of blow

[@Titan14157]

@@allwoundup3574 funny dust

[@Davieflame2608]

Lee for martial art, chan for stunts

[@Ryusuta]

Nobody was such a satisfying movie to watch. I especially liked Christopher Lloyd's scenes. So hilarious and brilliant.

[@lyndonmarquis414]

There’s a sword fight in *Sanjūrō* where Toshiro Mifune’s character just goes absolutely Hell for leather on a courtyard full of guards. It’s really made by the fear on the bandits’ faces as he mows them all down.

[@Lummerbummer115]

The one at the end right? Hell Yeah! The lead up to that scene is my favourite shot in any movie. Period. The wind kicking up all the dust, the slow rhythmic walk, the tension rising, the framing of the whole scene, the camera angles and pans... its perfect.

[@lyndonmarquis414]

@@Lummerbummer115 Ah, no, I got confused - I meant Sanjūrō; it’s the scene where he rescues 4 samurai from a load of guards and then gets them to tie him up.

[@OzanBurada]

Yojimbo had this scene where our nameless hero fights and kills swordsmen inside a building and then lies that he found them like this and looked like it was a big gang work. Kurosawa always made the point that sword fights ends quickly.

[@augustusaquila5035]

God, that final Blade scene when he catches the glasses and the music starts = *chefs kiss*

[@MarcusFlemmings]

BEAUTIFUL!

[@abigailslade3824]

Probably with some mother F*Cher’s is they always trying ice skate uphill.

[@alanchoichang8336]

i think that back in the day, bruce was more used to the hongkong style of stunt work, a la jackie chan, where they would legitimately just fuck up the stuntmen in the safest way possible.

[@TheKnight212]

Pretty much this. Lee came from a veryyyyyyy different work environment in regards to stunts. Jackie Chan even talks about how different things are when filming for American stunts than Asian stunts. It wasn’t disrespect to the stunt performers it’s just all he knew and what he was willing to do himself. Unlike Segal who is just a giant asshole. Also calling BS on the Lee vs Chan. Before he was a movie star Lee was a fighter and got into plenty of street fights. He had also been told multiple times during movies he needs to slow his movements down because they were to fast for the camera to properly catch and look good. The guy was a beast.

[@Demonstormlord]

Respectfully, anyone can move too fast for a movie camera shooting at 24 fps to catch properly. That's why movie fighting is a different thing than real fighting. It's also a common talking point to hype up and coming movie stars.

[@excedrintablet]

i love that I'm learning this right now. "You're gonna get fucked up, but safely."

[@masterminecraft333]

@@TheKnight212 "He had also been told multiple times during movies he needs to slow his movements down because they were to fast for the camera to properly catch and look good" I think this is just a common myth for any well liked movie martial artist cause I've heard the exact same thing, word for word, said about Wesley Snipes.

[@OBSDCC7]

God the fights (read: beatdowns) in Batman are so powerful. The lack of a backing track that lets the foley and brutal strikes fill the audio space, the convincing hits and weighted, yet fluid movements…

[@SpectralSound.]

I know its fiction and all,but seeing brad pit's character just shitting on Lee like that just sucks.And when you think that pit and Brandon Lee were friends....it sucks even more.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Love this comment! Didn't know that about him and Brandon!

[@SouL1Jacker]

Eh it's the truth, though. Bruce Lee was not a real fighter. He would have lost badly to any real boxer or wrestler.

[@barrannugrahakodri8695]

​@@SouL1Jackerwhy are you here? If you don't like martial arts movie, no need to comment here.

[@SouL1Jacker]

@@barrannugrahakodri8695 I am sorry the truth about Lee hurts your feelings lol

[@railfandepotproductions]

​@@SouL1Jackeryou act like a UTTP user, if you know anything about the UTTP then you'll know about their actions

[@adityapanwar4145]

Lmao you can see the softbag in the scene 5:26

[@Lazyboyswift]

They even left in the frames where the actors landed on it lol

[@hankepanky9478]

That Saving Private Ryan scene where the soldier cowards on the stairway and listens to the German kill is supposed to signify America standing by while Germany rose to power. Knowing that made me really think about shit.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

He does kill him in the end :)

[@hankepanky9478]

@@MarcusFlemmings oh trust me I know. I love that scene. I fucking hate that scene lol. I’ve seen that movie at least 50 times start to finish.

[@shannon6365]

hahahaha of course

[@Guhner]

@@hankepanky9478 same. its a perfect movie.

[@briikhaus]

America spent the first few years of the war selling weapons to both sides

[@AB-ln2py]

No guns allowed... proceeds with a fight starting with guns. Flexible set of rules i see... :D

[@xarrison8274]

1:43 I am unbelievably happy you chose to include the beginning of Once Upon a Time in the West. Easily one of my favorite films of all time

[@CRNomad]

Jackie Chang perfected what Bruce Lee started. Also Jet Li and Donnie Yen are in the same conversation as those two.

[@sultanabran1]

i don't think jet li choreographs his scenes. he does the scenes extremely well though. donnie yen is brilliant at both. michelle yeoh should be mentioned too. she's freaking awesome.

[@cornelldgreen]

Who is Jackie *Chang???*

[@Anhpointgaming]

@@cornelldgreenthats what I m saying 😂 must have flew under the radar… cause I know Jackie “Chan” but Chang? Nah…

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@@Anhpointgaming must be Jackie Chan’s stunt double lol

[@jacksonconstantine5740]

Thank you for mentioning the coffee scene in Heat. And for giving Bernthal’s Punisher the props it deserves.

[@AndroidNoir-L06k]

The nobody fight sequence in bus is legendary, everyone in that scene is just so human at some level.

[@TonyDracon]

it was lame lol

[@DunkMyNuts]

@@TonyDracon dork

[@pankek5431]

​@@TonyDraconyou're lame

[@NeetuSingh-gl1ue]

​@@TonyDracon It was realistic. It wasn't like the usual boring karate/kickboxing shit, but an angry guy just beating up random goons because.....he is angry. He did win, despite his bruises, he liked the release of anger in that fight.

[@lshtar777]

Jackie would tell you... it's Bruce.

[@f1ibraaa]

Im so glad u mentioned Scott Adkins. Such an underrated actor and martial artist who deserves way more recognition

[@CoolUsername69]

Even before you mentioned Chan, I was wondering when we were going to discuss him in more depth. He's the all-time greatest and it's not even close imo. Lee deserves enormous credit for being an originator that injected his scenes with...visceral drama, for paving the way for the greats that followed, and for sharing his wisdom with us. But Chan, his stunt team and his choreographers elevated cinematic fights and stuntwork to a level of performance art never seen before or since, and you can see their influence everywhere today. It's fairly common for modern-day fight scenes to incorporate miscellaneous props being cleverly used as makeshift weapons or defenses -- but never with the grace or complexity of Chan's work. I still remember the first time I saw a Jackie Chan movie. It was Rumble in the Bronx, and it changed my life. In just 90 minutes, my understanding of what's humanly possible and impossible was forever changed. Binged everything of his that I could find after that.

[@donaldpriola1807]

There's something to the brutality of the fights in Fight Club--visceral to the core.

[@Guhner]

MJW, Scott Adkins. True underappreciated legends.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

YES! Both are incredible! So underrated!

[@redkommie80]

White is awesome, I love seeing him in a film. Atkins I like, but I need to watch more of his films

[@gsimon123]

For a long time this was Donnie Yen as well. I feel like Ip Man and Rogue One really helped bring his legend to the wider audience that he always deserved. Hoping the same for those other guys. I know they are both very popular but I just feel like they aren't popular ENOUGH for how great they are. Seeing Yen reach such levels of stardom on huge movies was very rewarding to watch. Loved Yen vs Adkins in Ip Man 4 for that reason. What a legendary fight that was!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

@@gsimon123 Yen is an OG!

[@Fulphilment]

I believe that in the scene from Inception they did not even use wires but built a rotating hallway instead and the actors were really struggling to move in it.

[@pleaseenteranamepleaseente7381]

“Stop trying to hit me and hit me” Sounds like the equivalent of “When there’s an opportunity, I do not hit, it hits all by itself.”

[@in4mus85]

I love that fight from "who am I?"8:16 P.S. Chan is the GOAT for his stunts if nothing else.

[@James_Bee]

John Wick fell off a freaking CLIFF, but Scott Adkins in a fat suit doing what he does best, is just good stuff. He's been around for SO long and really does deserve more recognition. Same thing with Frank Grillo; been around doing 'b' movies forever, occasionally getting bit parts here and there but FINALLY got some A listing roles and nailed it as Ferrucio Lamborghini.

[@natebowman7593]

10:28 Bruce Lee was brilliant, and had disturbingly fast reflexes, but, he was not invincible. As a matter of fact, he got his butt handed to him by Chuck Norris when they had a sparring match that got out of control. Not even Mike Tyson is immune to defeat, and even Achilles had his weak tendon.

[@haveaday1812]

Yeah, he also only weighed like a buck 25. Tarantino’s whole point (which he went into detail about on JRE) was that if a dude his size and skill got into a hand to hand fight with a literal war hero twice his size like Pitts character, he would indeed get his ass kicked.

[@lizzfrmhon]

I can’t believe you’re calling Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Kung Fu Hustle movies of yesteryear. God damn I feel old now. Thanks a lot!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Hahaha! I wasn't, per se, I was just showing the evolution from the 70's - present day!

[@kevinknott4404]

Yuen Woo-ping! had to write that down. Learn something new every day. And btw the fight from "they live" is so funny in this context.

[@siddharthsharma1286]

Everyone loving this series for sure

[@MarcusFlemmings]

YES, and thanks for the comment - it helps the algorithm!

[@mr_0n10n5]

The first Drunken Master and Police Story 1-3 were my intro to Jackie Chan. Absolutely phenomenal movies

[@sim1482]

dude, the way you do transitions, how you go from one sequence to another is just fantastic. half an hour just flew by. great job, this is very enjoyable.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

HUGE love for this!

[@Xerdar36]

Violent images you say, violent graphic scenes, you say…. Well, sign us up!!!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

pahaahaah!!

[@Rob_Pap]

The best worst actor is Jean-Claude Van Damme, love this guy's energy

[@Bazinguh]

I hate how people assume gun fights cant be good, Tarkov raid did a great job. Its just mostly a tension reliant thing.

[@RySin89]

No guns allowed except the first part of the matrix scene.... we will ignore the guns there.

[@aliasfakename8345]

"No gunfights" 1st example is a gunfight 😂

[@DaPark3]

When you mentioned revolver i grinned so hard, its imo the best beatles album and a perfect 10/10

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Little secret...I'm not a huge Beetles fan. Prefer the Rolling Stones! But I know the significance of Revolver!

[@TheBigR02]

So glad to see Avengement on this, easily one of my favorite films.

[@gjergjipocari8227]

Put the movie titles for each scene in a corner my man, it's 2024

[@PhilWare1]

Good video, but I don't really agree with the Bride vs Crazy 8 fight. Stylized and looks great but not visceral or believable.

[@WarBovine]

Remember when this was suppose to be a video about bad and good movie scenes that didnt have guns but half the damn video has nothing to do with it?

[@XavIsOnline]

Yeah its insanely meandering. I'm shocked more people aren't talking about it

[@jankbunky4279]

Totally agreed man. The video shows some cool scenes, but for how many likes it has I am surprised by how incredibly poor the writing is. What a waste of my time.

[@kaerstyx]

i watched Kill Bill with my dad when I was like six for the first time and it permanently changed my brain chemistry in the best way possible lmao

[@dramirez2351]

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. The scene at the "hotel". Is beautiful yet brutal. Unique. Thanks for the great video man, I enjoyed it so much.

[@Deadshoot-xi4pg]

I think the fighting scenes of Taylor Rake Extraction 1 and 2 are some of the best there are

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Hmmm, it's good for sure! Lots of stitches and CGI though!

[@mrcheese5383]

@@MarcusFlemmingspersonally I don’t care if there are stitches and CGI as long as the end product is good

[@SupaaManix]

Agreed with all scenes you picked, except Kill Bill: it can be visually appealing and there's a lot of references to other movies but the fight felt too choreographed/lazy.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Maybe BUT it was also choreographed by the same legend who did Kung Fu Hustle, The Matrix, Drunken Master, etc, etc - I love it!

[@plstmb6000]

Agree, the hit felt less impactful and lacks fluid movements compared to The matrix or Kungfu hustle.

[@WelshmanMovieScenes]

good video, but honestly both fights in the thumbnail are absolutely great. doesnt really fit the title.

[@Phoebe5448]

Disrespect for stunt men? When Bruce accidentally hit Jackie Chan while filming Enter The Dragon with his nun chucks, he immediately dropped everything to check on Chan. Jackie even said it in an interview that he was hurt, because "I just want Bruce Lee to hold me for as long as he can." Sure, Bruce wanted fights to be realistic. But I wouldn't say it was disrespect, more like he thought it was unnecessary. And to an extent, he was right. Stunt actors are amazing in their own right and definitely need more recognition, sure. But the best fight scenes are done by the actors themselves. See, Charlie Clements in Red Dwarf, who insisted on doing his own stunts, and of course Keanu Reeves. Man is a machine.

[@OzymandiasWasRight]

12:04 Such a random thing i focussed on during this video, but just imagining trying to shoot in that much mud. Struggling just to stay on your feet during a chaotic action scene. That had to be a nightmare. Plus 'soggy sock'. Oof. Oh yea. Awesome video btw.

[@nickwatkins7724]

VOL 4 LETS GOOOO

[@MarcusFlemmings]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[@toastmalone1853]

One thing I hate about a lot of action scenes is that they use kung fu as a fighting style. It’s understandable since it’s a flashy style of fighting, but it is a really ineffective (compared to other martial arts) and unrealistic way to fight and often takes me out of a scene because It’s so hard not to think “why wouldn’t you use Kick-boxing or BJJ instead"

[@xavierthomas5835]

I can respect that. I think of a lot of it owes to the fact that people SELL kung fu as really flashy, so it looks ineffective. You gotta remember that these styles have a long history of actual war training, security utility, and fighting. All of that reduced to the flashiest ways to fight in movie scenes. Look at Kyokushin Karate. Very visceral. Muay Thai, it's ancestor, Muay Boran, Judo, certain forms of kung fu that have been kept martial with an equal amount of art, etc. A lot of the flak one might have for kung fu's actual utility in visceral fighting is that they ham it up a little to much, make it just a LITTLR to mystical, and have way too much protagonist power.

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Well the thing is, it's all rooted in an circle act of performance - that's how it started. It was performance based - so that's why it works so well on camera :) Kick Boxing hasn't got that pull. But it's certainly brutal, which is also great!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

love this!

[@xavierthomas5835]

@MarcusFlemmings definitely another aspect I forgot about. Within the culture of kung fu, there is a lot of need to put on the best show, to bring the most glory and fame, instead of being the best at what you do. Not to mention that glory and fame for martial arts keeps them relevant and discussed, practiced. It's longevity is its best friend and worst enemy.

[@toastmalone1853]

@@xavierthomas5835 definitely widened my perspective. still I would like to see more representation of other martial arts than kung fu, boxing or judo

[@cavendishbandana8706]

6:14 "...the man can still do things like this." The guy is pretending to throw CG knives.

[@jankbunky4279]

Yup. There are plenty of scenes that show skill and athleticism from Keanu, but that scene is just good acting.

[@fldarkstar]

I really appreciate you making this video. For years I have been frustrated with fight scenes in movies and questioning, is it just that I'm getting old and acting like the old people who always said our music was too loud? Now that film making has changed so much it just always feels fake. There were parts in that last kill bill fight that just didn't appeal to me but after you pointed out all the styles I realized there were some really good parts too. The two women fighting in the home early in the story. That blue and black silhouette scene, even the spanking at the end. That was all really good stuff. I hate shaky camera because it makes it so hard to see what's happening and sometimes you can't see enough to even see the action. Sometimes you can't tell if someone was punched or kicked or hit with a weapon it's just blurry scenes and impact sounds and wilhelm screams and you can't really tell what's going on. Good choreography is key and when you pointed out that one fight scene director and mentioned all of his credits it gave me chills cause I loved all of those fight scenes and never knew who did them. Thank you for that. I really appreciate it ^^

[@IntelligentBread5]

I understand how unrealistic it is, but Kill bill is still an amazing movie series.

[@sgtlaughter]

Okay, Vol. 5 will be about the fight scene from "They Live".

[@MarcusFlemmings]

Pahahaa if only! Would make my life alot easier!

[@mr.niceguy2337]

i really dont understand how kill bill is so highly praised lmao. I dont see it at all.

[@CloudxBoys]

ITS A CULT CLASSIC

[@mystic9434]

8:22 what movie is this?!

[@stanleyondimu3280]

The protector

[@werewatchingschindlerslist9193]

I like the cuts back to the fight scene in They Live! Almost like it's been happening in the background the entire video. Nice touch!

[@MarcusFlemmings]

HAHA! So glad you worked out what was happening there!

[@andrewmg5915]

My god. The 5 cuts per second in a fight movie is hell for me. So much that I cannot finish the movie/series after that. It makes my eyes sore. I hate Statham movies but my dad loves them so from time to time I have to endure it.

[@MrKaje72]

Can we get a comparison? Bruce: Jackie: Jet: Donnie These men have defined and redefined martial arts filmmaking. Enter the Dragon: Who Am I: Unleashed: Ip Man

[@sinisterdesign]

Chan. I've never seen anything from Bruce Lee as impressive and entertaining as Jackie Chan's best work.

[@Demonstormlord]

Chan certainly innovated a lot more, while also adding humor. That said, Lee did only get to make 4,5 movies as a lead actor before he died.

[@purish215]

​@@Demonstormlordexactly my thoughts lee never really got the chance to truly be a star like Jackie or jet lee or Donnie yen

[@eneskanat9173]

5:01 Why are the subtitles in Turkish? 😂

[@eneskanat9173]

@florida_man0 damn

[@Bonked_YT]

​@florida_man0 ur wrong, he's actually part turkey, like the animal

[@ProcyonNite]

​@@Bonked_YTCan confirm, had him for dinner yesterday.

[@mikekolokowsky]

The Crazy 88 sequence is great because for once there aren’t 40 gangsters standing around watching their friends get killed in ones and twos. They attack a dozen at once. More than that, and they’d get in each other’s way. But you wear down your opponent by having them have to defend all angles all the time.

[@theghostofuchiha1496]

Since everyone's praising *Nobody* I'd like to put my two cents forth as well. What makes Nobody so great is the fact that our hero is nowhere near his prime anymore, the fact that we know that he was into some messed up shit but don't find it until halfway through the movie, the fact that it all started from a kitty cat bracelet and turned into taking down a Russian mafia purely out of spite. Our hero throws away the bullets and gets punched in the jaw which kinda discombobulates him, but it makes him feel more and more alive, reminds him of the good old days. You can see his eyes trying to contemplate if he should go back to his old boring life or burn everything down to hell and we all know what he chose. When he burns down the Obshak, you can see it in his eyes, the madness, the hunger. Nobody is a great movie, written in such a way where you see a nice guy go berserk, and slowly you find out that he was never nice.

[@GlatzeMetzger]

22:29 Is it Darth Vador's theme ?

[@octopusjacket3472]

It feels a lot like the imperial march, yeah

[@GlatzeMetzger]

@@octopusjacket3472 👍

[@rndmdrwrreedr8483]

It’s part of the ost or original sound track. I’m certain it’s just called “the Batman” from the latest Batman movie

[@s.m.9086]

R u restarted?

[@GlatzeMetzger]

@@s.m.9086 you mean rebooted ?