Elden Ring - How Realistic are the KATANAS

[@MarcusVance]

Here's that Sokka meteor sword video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHmmnXyvZsl4j9U

[@carlosblanco571]

No you wrong

[@TaosoftheVoid]

I'm actually not sure myself but I believe the actual blade of Rivers of Blood isn't made of blood magic or something but just coated in cursed blood. The rough looking edge may actually be from many MANY years of use - Okina is supposed to be a master after all, one that apparently ended up serving Mohg.

[@gooseman300]

I believe he was saying it's a katana with blood magic, and not the katana being made with blood magic

[@Tay-v6v]

Yes. Mohg blessed his blade with the blood magic, after fighting Okina and striking a deal with him

[@Ratking665]

It was a katana imbued with blood magic by mohg

[@TaosoftheVoid]

I feel like people are misunderstanding: I'm well aware the thing has blood magic imbued into it, I'm saying that it's only likely coating the blade like some unending...dare I say "cursed blood". I'm literally saying that the reason the blade looks the way it does is just because it's a very old sword used by a pretty crazy old man. It was Okina's sword before he met Mohg, he just got cursed blood put on it

[@Ratking665]

@@TaosoftheVoid I never meant to try and correct you, just kind of shortening it

[@Nukesnipe]

Something else for the Hand of Melania is that she can slide her hand up the blade so the "grip" slots into a retractable bit in her prosthetic's forearm, giving her significantly more leverage.

[@saltefan5925]

The slot seems to be in part connected to a spring, which with the change of pivot point gives her both leverage and the ability to "bounce" the blade with a cut. The blade is as tall as her, and she looks to be roughly 8 feet tall so more leverage is very handy (pun intended)

[@kresna7493]

she better slide her hand up and down and use that grip slot for something else 😈

[@2shadesofgray752]

​@@kresna7493 ayo

[@fishfiftie]

See the trick with malenia’s blade is to just rip your own arm off and steal hers. It works fine after that

[@MarcusVance]

Oh ok

[@thedrunkenoutlaw]

@@MarcusVance yeah that was my reaction as well

[@vengefulpianist257]

Tarnished: Hippity Hoppity your arm is my property

[@selential7384]

Yes

[@lukatosic09]

The serpentbone is more of a baskethilt like design. It's hard to see from that perspective but the back guard curves to the side to give your wrist space

[@panoctic]

The tachi was Made for Horse combat, the Uchi was for regular foot soldiers ashigaru, but both high rank still had one ; still both require alot of work to be Made, the King of the weapons for samurai was the Yari the spear, katanas are back up weapons.

[@sosaaacc]

What about naginata’s

[@PunkZombie1300]

I just wanna make a correction on the Serpentbone Blade: when you actually look at it being held in game you can see that the guard isn't parallel with the blade. Well the part on the blade's side is, but the part on the serrated side curves inward and around your wrist. If you use it in your left hand it actually goes around the outside of your forearm, which provides significantly more protection and makes me thing it might be intended to be left-handed.

[@TiddyTwyster]

I've been using it as a left hand sword, paired with RoB (pve) I only just discovered RoB, even just using it in solo play I feel like I'm committing a cardinal sin

[@PunkZombie1300]

@@TiddyTwyster Yeah it's pretty cool, but I've never used it because I've seen how easy it makes the game lol. Though the Serpentbone Blade has the same Ash of War without the blood blade- Double Slash, which can be found in Sellia and applied to other katanas and a whole host of other weapons (including greatswords and halberds lol). It's one of my favorite AoWs so I put it on a lot of weapons. If you like the moveset and want a less OP katana with similar range I'd throw that on a Lightning or Keen Nagakiba, it's pretty great.

[@connerdenton4239]

It’s a katana with blood magic! The gent said excitedly Somewhere a ripple is felt in the universe, as if mass swathes of Elden Ring’s PVP community suddenly became triggered

[@Tay-v6v]

They so triggered but hey still use it XD

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

@@Tay-v6v Because its fun.

[@Tay-v6v]

@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx yes

[@snipergod5216]

@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx it's fun until you have to fight a ROB spammer.

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

@@snipergod5216 Oh shi-

[@flamestriker1793]

The nodachi was the japanese equivalent of the European zweihander or claymore and only saw use in the battlefield. It was also too big to be drawn from a sheath by one person.

[@MarcusVance]

You can draw them from the hip. Just need to shift the scabbard as well.

[@gabrielrussell5531]

Two handed swords almost never saw use on the battlefield because swords are a secondary weapon. Landsknechts are literally the only historical exception. Odachi were for dick-measuring duels.

[@jarrarwinks8470]

It's the dexf@g version of the bass canon, like in game too.

[@Tay-v6v]

Which is why, frankly, I hate that stupid sheathe that clips through the ground. I thought they learnt their lesson with Sekiro's placement of the mortal blade, but I guess not.

[@eagle162]

@@gabrielrussell5531 swords were use was a lot and in some contacts they were the preferred weapon,nodachi definitely saw use was on the Battlefield.

[@durpypig1731]

i'd like to see your thoughts on the ranged weapons like the bows and the jar cannon

[@sowpmactavish]

I thought the uchigatana was the transitionary design between the old tachi and the katana we know and love today. When I think "budget katana" I think of tabagatana (lit. bundled swords) which were mass produced to be the standard issue sidearm of the ashigaru.

[@velazquezarmouries]

An uchigatana can also be a tachi blade on katana mountings like a handachi

[@santojorge]

the uchigatana is not a budget katana, it IS what we think of as a katana, specifically the curved, medium length sword used by the samurai after the Muromachi period for combat on foot and later in the Edo period as one of the two blades they would carry (along with a wakizashi). Japanese has three terms for sword, "tsurugi" or "ken" referring to straight double edged swords in general, "katana" meaning single edged sword in general, and "tachi", japanese single edged curved swords (like the wakizashi, uchigatana and odachi). The "budget" version you're referring to were the uchigatana made in the Kamukura period, when the main style of combat was using a odachi, a long single edge sword, on horseback. construction quality increased with time, with the odachi falling out of style in favor of the naginata (polearm) on horseback and the uchigatana for combat on foot

[@Loading_Profile...]

Fun fact: there are curved blade swords with a serrated back edge. One example is the French Sapper Sawback Sword.

[@luisyanez6261]

I had the feeling that the meteor iron one was fairly weird for a katana and after taking a look at it's point in game I belive it's more of a Dao than a japanese blade. The combination of the handle shape and construction plus a less defined angle in the point kinda point that out to me

[@ok.8363]

its a shame there has never been a unique odachi with an interesting moveset. the nagakiba and washing pole are kinda underwhelming

[@JamesW609]

The closest one I can think of is Sir Alone’s sword from dark souls 2 but it’s been like 5 years since I played it.

[@ok.8363]

@@JamesW609 it was prolly my favorite katana in souls

[@fransthefox9682]

The Uchigatana was a budget sword because back at the Muromachi period, they were made only for Ashigaru, aka commom foot soldiers, who couldn't afford a quality sword like a Tachi. Later they decided to make Uchigatana for Samurai and above. These were good quality, and expensive. But they were still Uchigatana, nonetheless.

[@tablematts9055]

Curious about the Nagakiba. How does a small grip area provide less leverage? and does that mean the Nagakiba is less effective than a traditional nodachi/odachi?

[@Tay-v6v]

Physics XD. I think it is related to the equation moment = F x d. The further the distance from the pivot, the greater the moment. The pivot could be your hand near the guard when you maneuver the blade, and also the center of percussion when you strike the target Or, if you ever go fishing, try lifting up the rod with your hands together versus your hands being spaced out. Heavier cutters generally have long handles because leverage is important to control the blade and also generate more powerful cuts. However, a smaller handle means that the blade can pivot about better in one hand. But don't worry about it too much. "traditional odachis" is an umbrella term with surviving specimens having very different handling characteristics and different handle lengths, and if the tarnished is strong enough to lift a slab of iron in one hand, he has enough strength to wield the nagakiba effectively.

[@SmittyWerbenjagermandragon]

the Nagakiba went by the Washing Pole in older souls games, refering to the Nodachi used by Sasaki Kojiro named the Drying Pole or the Laundry Pole. it is said that his strokes with the weapon were unusually quick and precise for how long and heavy it was. I'd say that From Software wanted to emulate Kojiro's slick use of his weapon, but making a Nodachi and slapping the Curved Greatsword moveset on it wouldn't work, so it got the katana moveset.

[@erenjaeger4696]

Hi Marcus, could you tell us if the genshin impact weapons (not catalyst) would work as actual weapons

[@300kyuubi]

This was nice, liked this video

[@collin333]

So I’ve had this thought for a while, but apart from the hiltless nature of Malenia’s sword, I WOULD love to have it in real life. I would shorten the blade and slap a French style sabre swept hilt on it. Think that would look dope af 😌

[@Nepcsalibur]

It's mildly upsetting to see him call the rivers of blood a regular Katana when the edge is so warped and cracked and chipped then it looks like an actual River

[@DragonEdge10]

To be fair, though it's not a smooth edge, it's also not a jagged edge. It's just kinda wavelike, which wouldn't really hinder the cutting performance.

[@stty6058]

none of them is more beautiful than the legendary sword of sir alonne

[@chrisnorris3641]

I have to correct you on something, the Uchigatana translates to Cutting Sword, it's simply what they used to call earlier swords they later started calling them Katana which just means Sword.

[@matthewhall7976]

I was thumbs up/like number 102..👍❤️👍

[@whyareureadingthis6719]

A hilt? That's some absolutely maidenless behaviour.

[@tristangarrett4182]

I'm sure it's in here somewhere but every weapon can be used one handed,two handed, or duel wielded in the game. Doesn't matter if it's a dagger or a hammer as big as you are.

[@ayoutubeaccount7273]

Katanas are the coolest

[@koyo0o08]

So the only question I got after watching this video is: are you a maidenless whatever guy or do you have a maiden/s

[@MarcusVance]

Nobody can *have* a maiden

[@pepperbird67657]

@@MarcusVance Can one become a maiden?

[@MarcusVance]

You can become whatever you want/need to be.

[@greed94]

@@pepperbird67657 Sometimes, it takes a real man to be best girl.

[@ryanroswellcacho]

Maidenless Tarnished in the word sensei.

[@ryanroswellcacho]

The Serpent Bone Katana is kinda similar to the Katana Muramasa in Power Rangers Samurai.

[@WTF606able]

Yeah the hiltless hand of Milana bothers me too.

[@adibcruz2983]

"Maidenless whatever guy"

[@falsebeliever8079]

Yes, but what about the Chikage and the Rakuyo!?

[@bobjim245]

The deadliest weapon on this list is the vertical video... I feel pain

[@thelonebraincell5908]

I really wanted to hear you talk about elenors polblade

[@MarcusVance]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqfJpaqdl5mfraM

[@thelonebraincell5908]

Awesome, guess ill sub :)

[@thelonebraincell5908]

Lol im already subbed😅

[@darknesswave100]

Would the Nagakiba work better if the handle was longer? Seems like it would balance it better seeing as how the sword is so long

[@Tay-v6v]

irl probably. Such a short handle may make it unwieldly , but as we see, the tarnish uses it just find. It is, by definition, long enough.

[@avalqnche]

Please do landscape instead of portrait videos.

[@rammywarrior4033]

Imagine test welding the Hand of Malenia after you got it and losing a finger mid swing... kek

[@QuickSciFiLore]

Swords

[@dane9225]

You have spoiled me so much with the last One 😭

[@Minihood31770]

Getting cut several times by Katanas IRL does not make you suddenly explode with blood. 0/10

[@Killercroc20000]

🐈👈🏿

[@amassasa]

Are you implying that you are not MAIDENLESS? Hahaha, just joking. Great video ;)

[@JonnesTT]

Katanas aren't generally hard. Their spine is usually soft (due to blast furnaces not being widely used in feudal japan.) and only the edge is hardened. There is some argument about the edge being quenched to be even more brittle than European swords (so it holds an edge better, but chip faster) but I've never found anyone measure that so I'll assume it's just a myth.

[@MrJinglejanglejingle]

Its not actually a myth. Japanese Katanas, the old ones, the traditionally made ones, have a tendency to chip FAR easier than European blades. Now, does this mean they chip after a few swings? No, of course not. But after a few hundred smacks against shields and armor, it might start to form a chip somewhere. Unlike European blades, which generally held their edges for... Years, honestly. Then again, just like the European Longsword, the Katana was never meant to be a true battlefield weapon. Its a backup weapon for if you lose your first weapon. That usually being a Mace/Club or Spear/Yari. Because the Spear is the most broken battlefield weapon during the age of melee combat, and the mace/club is meant for cracking armor, which swords just... Weren't designed to do.

[@emmanueldy9130]

@@MrJinglejanglejingle I would like to add that with where Japan is located metal armor wasn't widely used, so they didn't need to create weapons capable of withstanding iron or steel defenses

[@Tay-v6v]

@@emmanueldy9130 I would like to add that that is not true. Metal armor was used extensively, and no sword can bypass steel or iron (not sure what withstanding means)

[@Tay-v6v]

@@MrJinglejanglejingle "Unlike European blades, which generally held their edges for... Years, honestly." False. European blades made with superior modern steel can dent and chip in relatively short stress testing, like any normal weapon outside of folklore. (laws of reality apply indiscriminately) In fact, while more resistant to chipping softer steel is more likely to roll and dent than harder steel.

[@emmanueldy9130]

@@Tay-v6v Oh I didn't know that, thanks for the correction. What I meant by withstanding is basically they didn't need to worry about full plate armor, so their swords were more used for slicing and cutting. Hope this clears it up

[@ayoutubeaccount7273]

Katanas are the best

[@jarrarwinks8470]

Screw Rivers of Blood, and screw Moonveil. I parry them a lot, but screw those two weapons, way to common and they are way to powerful, especially Rivers of Blood with decent arcane, if a player runs up behind you even if you have good poise while you are in a fight with someone else or if they are fast enough you are basically dead, same with Moonveil. Moonveil has stupidly good stagger and melts my high health, and Rivers of Blood procs bleed to much with the percentage of damage it does combined with it's damage making it stupidly powerful. Also, most can't even use them well but still get carried, but when one with a little bit of a brain has it it's a death sentence to anyone.

[@legendarydragon2564]

This is not the video for this

[@kishi2653]

Where is rivers of blood? :( :(

[@anandareisya2396]

Definitely a sword

[@elshebactm6769]

🤠👍🏿

[@عبدالرحمنهندي-ل2ط]

curved swords when?

[@TheImmortalMushroom]

Moonveil is just bootleg enma

[@carlosblanco571]

No you wrong